I don’t understand why anyone would choose this over a gaming desktop and an ultrabook. It probably costs the same as both devices, and the desktop gives you upgradability while the ultrabook gives you portability. Also, why would you buy something where the manufacturer got things wrong? Screen flex, bad trackpad, obnoxiously maltextured RGB strip, no Thunderbolt, etc. I am a Mac guy and I refused to buy any Mac with a butterfly keyboard because the manufacturer got it wrong. What excuse does MSI have?
@@djsnowpdx Dont understand? Why are there games on your phone to download? Why is there a nintendo switch? why is there portable gaming devices? Because people play games outside of their houses. Screen flex, bad trackpad, rgb, no thunderbolt is ur excuse to not buy this? did you not see the performance ?
Could you make some comparisons between this and the GS66 Stealth in your review please? They seem very similar and I'm curious as to which one is better for different situations/preferences.
Man, this is so much better than their previous GE series machines. The upgraded battery capacity alone makes it a much better choice; last year I took one look at the GE65's battery capacity and nope'd in two seconds. I wasn't a fan of their gamer-ey aesthetics either. Is there going to be a 17.3" version with a physical numpad? I really wish this came with the 4900H/S though :/
Thanks for the review. My GE66 Raider 32GB RTX2070 8GB is due to arrive Monday 17/08/2020 - it will be used for my Engineering designs, photography (Affinity & Topaz Studio 2) + video work. Sorry Gamers! As I live in Spain it will come in Spanish config but I'll soon have it dual set-up in English. €2449 on Amazon. As bang for buck, that's a good price here.
Though it had a lot of latency, which makes me think that it was at a slow shutter speed to compensate for very low light (which will make any camera look grainy and choppy). I would love to see a test of that webcam in normal lighting settings, as they might turnout a lot better.
@@feljosephdumoran4779 it was bad, I have one MSI gp6e laptop, the bottom panel was soo thin peace of plastic, it was cracking on any occasion it's just feel really fragile.
Hey matthew which labtop do you recommend the most ,,,MSI GS66 STEALTH. Or MSI GE66 RAIDER i would like to buy one of those specifically of play video games .
Twana D i have the gs66 and it is a beast, but this ge66 with a 2070 super will perform better if you really want to play graphic intensive games. My gs 66 gets 240+ fps on warzone, valorant and fortnite so im good with that. It also looks better imo since its all black and aluminum.
Hi Matthew, Thank you for yet another great review and without that annoying background music track so common with other reviewers. I am giving up on the idea that MSI will release the 1,000 nits display laptop they featured during the CES in Las Vegas in January this year. They keep delaying the release, which makes me think that this was just a concept model, trying and succeeding to gain a design award. But given the features of the model you reviewed here, with all of its cheap plastic parts, mushy keyboard and those terrible speakers I am now focussing on the Dell XPS 17.
I was under the impression that the chassis was made of aluminum not plastic. Kind of disappointing as this is the same price as the GS66, less premium materials should result in a lower price considering this laptop has relatively the exact same specifications as the GS66 down to only most GPU options being Max-P instead of Max-Q.
I also thought the same thing about the chassis. I’m confused as why this guys review says that it’s aluminum: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lhJHoaRiQsk.html
Matthew, thank you for bringing your opinions to us. However, I do not know your mean the mouse pad is not accurate. All the laptop mousepads are pretty much similar but in different sizes and click feelings. I am an owner of GE66, and I feel the materials used are better than most of the other brands except the bottom panel. I do not touch the bottom panel often that I think it is ok to be plastic. For the shape of the bottom panel cutouts, their complicated shapes for better cooling, if MSI uses the aluminum can turn to two results, the one is too thin to be dented, another is thick but heavier. And also, the cost of production will pass to the customers, and MSI customers' value is different from the Razer buyers. The only thing I do not like about this laptop is the design of the upper panel, especially the color. The front light bar has good RGB color transit, which means I cannot see the led bulbs. Glass light bar is heavier and weaker than plastic, especially on edge. I tested by following your concern, it is not soft at all. The same laptop I have bought it and tested it, then I have found some bias from you, sorry for correcting your opinions. By the way, I have an Alienware M15 R3 2070 S and a ROG Zephyus 2070 at the same time, and the MSI is my latest purchase, my testing is side by side.
Matthew can you do a comparison of this against the gs66? I am looking for a fairly portable gaming laptop with excellent battery life. I am also considering the Asus Zephyrus G14. What do you recommend?
Don't know why they go with plastic builds on any laptop near or over $2k, it always feels cheap and shows its age sooner. At the Raider price points, there's really no excuse.
nice review. I agree that giving GPU penalty over TB3, it is unlikely it will be widely used on this laptop, but I guess it is always nice to have the TB3 por TB3 displays for instance that also offer USB upstream/downstream, or rapid TB3 storage options. also I guess for people mixing this laptop for work/pleasure it is always useful to plug in a Quadro/Radeon Pro GPU in an enclosure with the corresponding drivers. Being this Intel laptop, it seems MSi simply cheaped out on that feature. I personally love my X1Extreme for its two TB3 ports.
All gaming laptop will go from 70 something degrees all the way to 80 something on turbo mode, also depending on how heavy the graphics of the game. Another great trick for cooling is to lit up the back of ur laptop with something, 3 to 4 inches. I use my ps2 to lit my laptop. Never use gaming laptop on ur lap, it will damage ur hardware and ur skin due to air ventilation being blocked from under.
Bought a GE65 Raider rtx 2070. Very impressed with performance. GE66 is just different cosmetically. And a little bump in CPU and GPU category. Overall it's a loss because you pay more for lesser options. GE65 had a 2.5 inch bay and 2 nvme slots plus separate mic and audio headphone jacks. The only downside is the laughable battery capacity. But other than that it's a perfect laptop for an amazing price.
Hey! I am new to this laptop stuff.. Can someone explain what's the difference between engineering sample and retail version.... Is the difference too large?
I think that they do final adjustments based on some testing Possibly firmware etc. Before they produce it in large quantities they gotta be ready for sale:) if they do change it in any way. It would be to improve some errors. Is all
Since we have a 99w battery on the new laptop, does that really mean we can sort of take it on board the plane but without actually charging it by not getting into trouble for it? Since I can see this go up for 12 hours at least
Hi Matthew Moniz, temperature, nobody pay attention!!! All gamer know all "about" performance! im a msi fan for some years, my last laptop is the msi ge63vr 7rf raider i buy now the GE75 Raider 10SGS-222 make some custom modifications (RAM - 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3200MHz SO-DIMM and slop 2 1TB M.2 GEN 3 NVMe SSD, will be available 5/20/2020 maybe, im a gamer and what i see on this last laptop msi ge63vr 7rf raider he burn my hands in minutes (playing eve online 3 acc same time)!!! I hope the new modelGE75 Raider 10SGS-222 dont have this problem !!! Thank you for you review, kind regards.
I am going to buy this laptop, but I want to ask about the temperature while rendering . do you have any recommendation to another laptop better than MSI GE66?
About the laptop, can you boot into the Bios and change the RGB Aurora neon lighting? I am planning on installing the Kali Linux as the main OS. The Windows 10 OS will be erased.
Hi Matthew . Would you be reviewing MSI WS65 and Asus Proart Studiobook Pro X ? Which among them has better performance and thermal?( i9 with quadro 5000 64gb ram is my preferred model )
@@DanielRodriguez-tf8by Idk if you're uneducated or just an Intel fan boy but even linus tech tips as well as alot of laptop reviewers have deemed Intel inferior at its current state. Even apple is planning on manufacturing their own cpus bc Intel is having alot of issues such as terrible heat issues and not optimising its cores and threads like it should. They're bringing out half assed products bc they are afraid of AMDs superior and cheap products. Even Nvidia is feeling like they are being catches up with. If you ask me, now is the perfect time to invest in amd stocks. Just wait for a year and you might see your stock value quadrupled
HI, could you please advise which gaming laptop will be best suitable for MSFS2020 with below requirements CPU: Ryzen 7 Pro 2700X / Intel i7-9800X GPU: Radeon VII / Nvidia RTX 2080 VRAM: 8GB RAM: 32GB HDD: 150GB (SSD recommended) Appreciate to hear,
Soo, the Dynaudio logo is stamped on the laptop's fascia. The company has quite a reputation for their speakers and since they use to say "We know about bass" in their ads I'm really sad to hear the speaker system used is... weak. Pity!
Hello everyone, I would like to buy a laptop for gaming and editing on premiere pro and after effects. Which computer advise you between Lenovo 7i RTX 2060 + 16gb Ram, MSI GE66 i7 RTX 2070 + 16 gb Ram ELUKTRONICS MAX 17 RTX 2070 32gb Ram
Help me. I am a new graphic learner. And i want to a laptop for making animation video. Using: maya, blander, premier pro, after effect, others... Can i bye this? Or which will be so so good under $1700???
You would think the GE66 would have Thunderbolt, in fact, more I/O and performance (cooling) than the GS66 since it's the non-stealth version. Now there is absolutely no reason to get this over the GS66. GS66 is thinner, stealthier, "lower-profile" but has Thunderbolt and a metal body.
Gonna wait until next year and cross my fingers for Asus to make a G15/17 to match the new design materials and Ryzen in the Zephyrus G14, but beef everything up spec wise. Seems like everybody kinda dropped the ball this year.
Now I don’t know about laptops that much just got into them. But can you upgrade these 2060max qs and all that ? I think that’s called the graphics card... can i swap that for a better one later on after i buy it?
no, only thing you can upgrade is the ram memory and the ssd storage memory as well as maybe applying some better thermal paste to the contacts for better cooling.
Such strong video cards, these ttx, but what kind of screen does these cards preferably need? 1080HD or 4k?i guessss, with these cards you want 4k screens, but as there are not many laptops with 4k, and when will 4k with such nice video cards become affordable? Right now affordable is 1080HD , with gtx 1660 ti, right?so how much extra will you spend, once you will get these rtx 2070 or 2080....
the mobile variants of the gpus work better with 1080p screens at the moment, hence why they give you the super high refresh rates on the onboard monitors. Also the size of the screens make 4k a bit pointless. People have been asking for 1440p screens on laptops for a while, but I think that would make them prohibitively expensive as they know they would not be able to get away with giving you a 60hz screen and 1440p 144hz screens arent cheap.
Hi, Matthew just subscribed:) I have a question. How does this compare to GE75? fan noise and performance? I have GE75 and the fan noise is not bad due to the huge room in the chassis. You mentioned GE66 has no room for anything does that makes heating worse?
