MSI X570 Unify + $250~ VRM Thermal Test 

the same was with their b350 - one of the worst boards. B450 - became one of the best.(though they screwed bios chip*) I really like how they're actually trying to fix their products.

Its great they are actually listening! But it would be better if they were able to think for them self so they didn't have to.

why can't MSI design something just works the first time! their BIOS is pretty easy to use.

When a channel gets an exclusive board and is willing to call out their sub ~$250 boards = balls ...I'm legit thinkin of supporting via Patreon.

@@chosendrunkard2389 How did they screw the bios chip? Too small?

At first I thought they were a rip off of unbox therapy, but after watching a few videos, I was massively impressed by their dedication to thorough technical reviews. He can be a bit too sour at times, but that's probably due to the comment toxicity rubbing off (though, seems in better spirits as of late). Really like this channel and are now subscribed. Will probably support via Patreon in the future. Want this channel to thrive.

@@familybetancourt6307 lmao

the best

Exactly, Steve and his pal do great work for the tech community. Thank you for helping them by being a viewer.

granted i like rng if u dont then this board is nice, after all, rgb lovers already have plenty of options

Yep. No RGB is a plus for me since I always forget to turn it of after a clear CMOS. As an overclocker and bencher, this board would be a perfect fall back cheaper board for me on the QoL features alone: Led debug code, start and reset buttons and, of course, the clear CMOS on the back of the board. And MSI did a great job with the memory layout and tracing, they're braking RAM WR left, right and center. It wouldn't replace the C8H as my daily driver because only 4 SATA ports (WTF MSI?) and the godawful bios. It's a constant exercise of patience if you spend almost the same time in bios as in Windows as I do. That said, it's a GREAT board for $300.

@@CapaNoisyCapa well nowdays u rarely need to clear cmos for oc, they have profiles and all that crap, aswell as fallback to previous working set (specially useful for oc ram, u know the ram loves to fail post if its not 100% stable...)

What another good x570 board? Like 200$ budget or so

They annoyed both of them.

Still has a fan, so no thanks!

yeah seems to be the case. Sad because their X470 boards were really good. I have the entry X470 Gaming Pro and it's a well working board.

@@dubious6718 Coil whine

@Curtis Riceman Strix E still doesn't have any PHC fan control in bios :(

I gotten stung with the Aorus Pro Wifi, going through 2 boards, my retailer going through 2 more. The Pro Carbon I got now is ok, but losing the type c front port stings. Also front usb 3 ports seems to lack power.

10% loss 😄

@@RichardDower wdym 10%?! At least 98%!

It's known for some time now that RGB decreases performance. Especially for RAM. You won't find any top-end RAM with RGB for that reason.

It's probably still there, just painted over so that they still get those sweet 50% performance bumps

@@P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV idk man Gskill Trident Z at 3600 mhz is the best kit ive used

seems like its really hard for people to turn off the RGB.

That's the only thing I absolutely HATE about my B450 Gaming Pro Carbon. No option to disable RGB in BIOS and you need bloatware on autostart to kill the RGB and it only kicks in once Windows starts up. A good board without cancerous christmas lights is a godsend.

@@ItsReaxxion I still don't it even if I can turn it off. It means my still has RGB if it's there. I don't want any RGB.

@@ItsReaxxion Not every motherboard allows to deactivate the lighting in the bios :-)

@@ItsReaxxion RGB takes up space one COULD be using for useful things. Nice try, though. C+ passive-aggression, very bigbrain.

I've Got a discounted B350 tomahawk, great value! My next board will be MSI or ASRock and X70 to make sure I can handle some Ryzen 7nm +

You can just pick up MSI B450 Max Motherboards. They are out of the box compatible with 3rd Gen RYZEN processors

@@prathmeshpatil6425 I think instead of getting the MSI x570 A Pro, I should buy the tomahawk max. Good vram, save money.

@@Natuh21 non andare con asrock. Il bios fa schifo

@J Thorsson LOL @ the last part. Im looking to build my first pc and I really want it without rgb. The only motherboard right now with rgb that I wouldnt mind getting its the ASRock X570 Taichi.

@J Thorsson Yeah, Im aware back then rgb wasnt on the PC like how it is now, everywhere. Im surprised that wasn't the case back then when neons lights were popular. Im just not a fan of them on PC, the same way im not a fan of them on cars. I know I can turn them off, but I just rather not have them at all. I probably sound more older even though im not, ha.

Lol. This is tough. Always watching between features, prices n offer bundles.

b350 Tomahawk user over here. b350 is so bare .

Agreed. I can always reccomend the B350 and B450 tomahawk boards and their variants for serious overclocking with the six core parts and below, and modest overclocking with the eight cores too.

It is possible that msi b550 boards Are better (and cheaper) than their low end 570 boards! Good that They did release Unity. It seems to be really good 570 board indeed!

MSI's B450 VRMs really weren't strong. They were just better than competition with Asus and Gigabyte using (Asus even in X470 TUF) some basically scam level VRMs good only for 65W TDP CPUs. Guess MSI thought they could ride on old reputation, but Asus and Gigabyte learned and MSI got caught pants down.

@@tuunaes they were really for a 100$ mobo

I think you made right choice, i really hate asrock bios....

Yeah for a cool room with good air-flow that's a pretty rubbish result, but hey, like you say it works and that's not surprising.

I'm sorry, but can I ask why are you planning to put a low end CPU on a high end platform like the X570? Maybe you could save money and build a B450 system

@@thelegendaryklobb2879 maybe so he can upgrade it in future? saves money that way.

The aorus elite beats all others at that price.

@@D-Dreamerz the elite is fairly "crappy" compared to the master and xtreme or whatever the top is

@@D-Dreamerz General consensus is Asus TUF is best at 200$ price point, but i HATE any pc part that has "gaming" on it, especially in big letters.. So im pretty happy with the aorus elite, never gave me any bsods yet since day 1 with an overclocked ram and pbo+auto oc on :p

@@arencorparencorp2189 I know, but that not what i said. "at that price". The boards you said are at difference price tags.

@@D-Dreamerz oh well, where i live the master is 20$ more so... i mean well worth, here

5700xt gaming x is the best 5700xt. I want to buy alm of this

@@matteo964 but gaming x 5700xt still hab rgb :P i want no rgb build

Timi yes but that was about the lower end boards. I was hoping this one would be more similar to the ACE than the lower end boards.

I wish it was that simple; after dealing with enough of their bullshit with the Prime B350 Plus to the point that I bought an open box ASRock Pro4($50, because Micro Center is the shit) to replace it, I won't be using ASUS motherboards until we see a drastic shift in their decision making. Even Buildzoid has been all over their asses at least since the Zen 2 launch. Previously, boards from the other 3 have tended to catch my eye, only for a third, maybe half of them have ended up replaced by an ASRock board that just delivered a better damn experience - this time, when I get around to upgrading to 3000 series, I'm getting a damn Taichi and being done with it. More than enough features, all the basics are solid, has proven to be a performer, and the price is right

@@RyTrapp0 did you get a taichi hen

@@Sol-su2mi Nope, not yet anyway, the Pro4 has been fine for what I do. I upgraded from an RX580 to a THICC II 5700XT(haven't experienced any of the issues that others have) right around the time I posted that comment, and, frankly, I haven't felt like the Ryzen R5 1600 has been holding me back, I haven't "needed" to jump to the 3000 series yet. Outside of gaming, I do some CAD work, but the component counts are very low, rarely over 10 components in an assembly, so 6 first gen Zen cores and 12 threads are more than enough for my work. I'm definitely still going to get a 3700x or 3900x(because I'm an enthusiast first), and definitely still planning on getting a Taichi when I do, but, for now, my money is going into the 1980 Mustang race car I'm building with my nephew - and, unfortunately, race car parts are a LOT more expensive than PC parts, so my PC plans have been on hold since I've gotten it "good enough" with the upgrade to the 5700XT. I really need to get 16 gigs of RAM though, I bought a used kit that turned out to generate memory errors, causing random crashes, so I had to swap my old 8 gig kit back in which is my biggest 'bottleneck' right now.

@@RyTrapp0 would you get the taichi over the unify? that is where i am currently at now, with a the msi being £30 less. does the unify have better vrm? what would you do? I hate how the msi has usb 2 at the rear though and less sata ports

wondered the same thing.

@@lifemocker85 Eikö 4950x? :)

It's a trick. Their software support is the worst of all brands, at least for AMD stuff.