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@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
You can decline to draw with Curse of Surveillance, so that changes my play in a few situations.
@ericgee6114
@ericgee6114 3 года назад
it being a may is so busted!
@KyonuIzanagi
@KyonuIzanagi 3 года назад
Sounds like the perfect deck to have Triskaidekaphile
@benjamindavidgoebel1818
@benjamindavidgoebel1818 3 года назад
Play wizard class in the deck!
@RandomPerson-mv8bn
@RandomPerson-mv8bn 3 года назад
as someone who puts so much effort into making videos with perfect thumbnails, and an overall consistent format, i was wondering wether adding lessons to your sideboard in other colors causing the deck to become become that extra color annoys you as much as if does myself.
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
I dislike it intensely.
@RandomPerson-mv8bn
@RandomPerson-mv8bn 3 года назад
@@LegenVD 😂 i had a nagging suspicion you might say something like that. i really hope they add an option to maybe manually change the colors of a deck.
@skuzzybuzz293
@skuzzybuzz293 3 года назад
I feel like an easy fix would be making the deck colors based in the lands in the deck
@robertmcintyre9023
@robertmcintyre9023 3 года назад
@@skuzzybuzz293 but then the first "add mana of any color" land would make the deck all five colors
@RandomPerson-mv8bn
@RandomPerson-mv8bn 3 года назад
@@skuzzybuzz293 plus, if you wanted to splash a color and put a 1-of basic in the deck to fetch with evolving wilds, it ruins the colors.
@victorzhang4950
@victorzhang4950 3 года назад
You can cycle curse of silence by attaching it to yourself naming a card you have in hand, playing the card paying the extra cost, and sacing curse to draw a card. 3 mana cycle mode is a very reasonable rate that can be useful in alot of situations.
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven 3 года назад
Especially good when you have no clue what your opponent is playing.
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
Useful suggestion!
@skeletonrowdie1768
@skeletonrowdie1768 3 года назад
would be cool to name memory deluge, it should make you look at two more cards as well :)
@johnlowe1255
@johnlowe1255 3 года назад
uh, if that's your play i think you're in a real bad spot.
@ChairmanMeow1
@ChairmanMeow1 3 года назад
@@johnlowe1255 3 mana cycle isnt ridiculous really
@konachan01
@konachan01 3 года назад
15:42 I dont think you would need to answer your own curse of surveillance to avoid decking out. I think for "any number of players", you could submit zero players to prevent any card draw if necessary. Anyways pretty neat deck as always!
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
Good point, used to the Blue Honden I suppose.
@theadjectiveform
@theadjectiveform 3 года назад
The whole video, man. Keeps clicking on himself and worrying about drawing too many cards lol.
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
@@theadjectiveform You can't click on the opponent tbf.
@PS_Bass
@PS_Bass 3 года назад
Really cool deck!!
@theadjectiveform
@theadjectiveform 3 года назад
@@LegenVD Yeah I just meant when there's a "submit 0" button right there every time that you're clicking past. (Would have been very funny if you actually did end up decking because of this in one of the games.)
@igoresquivel6237
@igoresquivel6237 3 года назад
I'm starting to believe you can make a masterpiece deck with any card you want, LVD. This one looks specially interesting because is quite different of the "metagame decks" in the format. Amazing videos always, thanks for it!
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
Glad you liked it!
@Venom87542
@Venom87542 3 года назад
It's why it always makes me sad that everyone sleeps on Blot out the Sky. Also, you can submit 0 for Surveillance so that you don't have to draw anymore.
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
Don’t want to kill my own Curses with it.
@r12365
@r12365 3 года назад
Blot out the Sky is godawful. Every time you read it, you realise another downside to it. The tokens come in tapped and it doesn't even destroy creatures at 8 mana.
@ExplosiveFetus
@ExplosiveFetus 3 года назад
@@r12365 It's not bad in current standard because people are using a lot of treasure tokens. Tapped doesn't matter much as long as you're stabilized and you're attacking next turn with an army of 2/1 flyers.
@johnlowe1255
@johnlowe1255 3 года назад
@@r12365 godawful? it's one of the most useful finishers in a control deck, wtf are you talking about.
@strahlungsopfer
@strahlungsopfer 3 года назад
@@johnlowe1255 it's only ever good if you're nowhere near dead or in very specific matchups. against your bad matchups the card is useless.
@1337-Nathaniel
@1337-Nathaniel 3 года назад
"If we get multiple curses out, it can *quickly get out of hand*". I see what you did there!
@tehol1
@tehol1 3 года назад
As a newish player to magic I have learned a ton from you, Convertgoblue, and sonio. Thanks for all the vids!
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
Glad to help!
@matimon
@matimon 3 года назад
Nice build! Gave me such shrine-y vibes
@nilsnoyen8335
@nilsnoyen8335 3 года назад
You could get in 4 Sedgemore Witches and 2 Poppet Stitcher, which makes you nearly allways have chompers while deciding every turn if you want to transform board to leathal or draw or get more chompers or a combination of everything while still having all control elements available. I left 2 Hole, 2 Silence, 3 Surveillance and 3 Leeches and its looking very good so far. Great Deck so far!
@Zyrek
@Zyrek 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this, i've been looking for a deck that I know will make my opponent give a defeated sigh at friday night magic.
@Minencraftin
@Minencraftin 3 года назад
lovely deck, loving all your recent videos keep up the good work
@amaurycourtois1387
@amaurycourtois1387 3 года назад
"eye like it" :D That was a nice one (both video and ending sentence). GGs
@nomenestomen3452
@nomenestomen3452 3 года назад
Finaly someone who build a curse deck to take a look at of how good curses actually are.
@MTGJosh
@MTGJosh 3 года назад
Awesome video as usual, I think Esper is my favourite colour combo!
@syferpolski4344
@syferpolski4344 3 года назад
Curse of surveilance seems to have a draw-mill deck potential - when you have two spare curses, enchant yourself, add some curses of silence naming cards you don't play and deck the opponent in one turn. Sumbit 0 players for drawing until then, to prevent the opponent from benefitting in the meantime.
@CaptKramerica
@CaptKramerica 3 года назад
Ah, an excellent LVD video while I was trying to decide if I was going to build a Lynde, Cheerful Tormentor EDH deck. Thanks for convincing me!
@joesullivan7940
@joesullivan7940 3 года назад
You say you saw "Saw it coming" coming? With vision like that, we need eye tribal now more than ever.
@zerobrine5226
@zerobrine5226 3 года назад
Thank you for making the cool decks.
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
Glad you like them!
@Dexterity_Jones
@Dexterity_Jones 3 года назад
lol honestly 1st time I've seen the curses being played, well done
@p-chan3319
@p-chan3319 3 года назад
Nice one. I did a Grixxis version and it is pretty brutal. Probably my new favorite control deck.
@robertovonschoettler
@robertovonschoettler 3 года назад
I don't think you can start a game with your opponent and say "Hello!" in good faith with a deck like this in hand xddddd
@ehkesoyo
@ehkesoyo 3 года назад
This deck is super interesting! Very fun video, thanks!
@DamienSmeets
@DamienSmeets 3 года назад
I had a hunch that Curse of Silence was going to be an amazing card for control decks, because the meta is so well-defined that we usually can predict our opponents' plays. It certainly gets even better in best of three. About that, aside from adding 7 other cards, would you change anything in you learnboard for BO3? Perhaps tone it down a bit to get more versatility when sideboarding?
@joshuaphillips1081
@joshuaphillips1081 3 года назад
When playing Bo3, you gotta drop down to only 3 or 4 learn cards, and use the sideboard for tuning the deck. Environmental Sciences is often good to help get lands early, but maybe only 1 or 2 other cards that you know you'll want at some point. Like Academic Probation, or Confront the Past. Then put the better "situation specific" cards in your sideboard for boarding in between matches. The great thing about the lesson cards is they let you tune the learn-board to help you situationally in Bo1, while there are usually just better options to switch into the deck for Bo3. For instance Containment Breach is really just a worse Broken Wings. So, forget the lesson card and just plan on side-boarding in Broken Wings Against Enchantment/Artifact dependent decks. In other cases, like Simic or Temur, maybe you need to be able to Exile something that you just cant do normally in those colors. So you leave the Introduction to Annihilation in the board, even though Black and White have MANY, MANY better options to exile things, so you would not use that lesson card in Bo3 with Black or White, but maybe you would if you do.
@FinetalPies
@FinetalPies 3 года назад
24:41 I think this turn would've been prime time for the Emeria's Call + Vanquish the Horde combo you were mentioning
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
The Angel tokens still die to it, so probably not worth it in the end.
@ChairmanMeow1
@ChairmanMeow1 3 года назад
the card art for curse of surveillance is horrifying
@thcdreams654
@thcdreams654 3 года назад
I probably don't want to see a magic situation that causes LVD to use a curse word.
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven 3 года назад
Man, I wonder what kind of boardstate that would have to be.
@corpsefoot758
@corpsefoot758 3 года назад
It’s kinda messed up, but I sometimes joke to myself that the “MTG Original Decks” channel is where LVD goes to get ripping drunk and just rages at the meta all night lol
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven 3 года назад
@@corpsefoot758 lmao ok then
@joao17771
@joao17771 3 года назад
Nice video as always, Luca. Keep it up
@JDecker229
@JDecker229 3 года назад
i love when lvd plays control
@Fexele
@Fexele 3 года назад
Love your deck. What fo you think for Triskaidekaphile as another win condition for deck with so many crads in hand for curses?
@MrSirbra
@MrSirbra 3 года назад
So after watching the first 2 matches, makes me wonder if there aren't some cards that could benefit from discarding or draw. Like wizard class for unlimited hand size and pumping your creatures per draw. Or something that can bring cards back from graveyard, namely lands? Not sure what unlimited mana solves, just seems like there could be value getting what you discard on to the battle field or back.
@soybomb777
@soybomb777 3 года назад
"Just name all the best cards in standard." *fails to name Minion of the Mighty*
@demon_otf_1803
@demon_otf_1803 2 года назад
I'd love to see a new iteration of this deck that uses Faithbound Judge as a win condition.
@luizffortes
@luizffortes 3 года назад
What about Triskadekaphile in this deck? It adds "win the game if you have 13 cards in hand".
@raphaeltisch954
@raphaeltisch954 3 года назад
Hi there! Love your videos so much! Why not Starnheim Unleased instead of Emeria? Late game, creates way more value.
@Sackless_Jack
@Sackless_Jack 3 года назад
When the curse asks which player you would like to draw a card, can't you submit 0?
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
Indeed
@DanyF02
@DanyF02 3 года назад
28:50 That was quite the early call on Check for Traps, what happened there?
@levicrawford85
@levicrawford85 3 года назад
I’d buy a shirt from you that said, “Reasonable Hand.”
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
I will hold you to that 😉
@mus0u
@mus0u 3 года назад
what kind of sideboard would be good for this deck in best of three? i know it's not the strongest but i really like the archetype and want to try to compete with it. it's the most fun i've had playing standard since doom foretold rotated
@peterhowley1510
@peterhowley1510 3 года назад
Should probably run devious coverup in this would be pretty sweet way to cycle your best cards.
@eggegg9026
@eggegg9026 3 года назад
28:50 I'm sorry but how did you know that the opponent had check for traps in hand?? Is the sound out of sync with the video, added later or what?
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
Looks like something got moved slightly in editing by accident.
@eggegg9026
@eggegg9026 3 года назад
@@LegenVD Ok, I thought you had divine powers to foresee the future. Thanks for the video!
@MrSirbra
@MrSirbra 3 года назад
I know we all have ptsd from goldspan, but I feel there are early game cards to name. Shambling, deadly dispute, etc.
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
Better to make expensive cards more difficult to cast, same reasoning as Elite Spellbinder
@MrSirbra
@MrSirbra 3 года назад
@@LegenVD I usually try to disrupt their turn or two plays. Easier with full knowledge with elite, more of a shot in the dark with curse.
@TheValiis
@TheValiis 3 года назад
I have milling anxiety watching this lol
@Omniette
@Omniette 3 года назад
I run a deck similar tk this with triskadeckiaphile and graveyard trespasser as an alternate win con
@johndoyle7370
@johndoyle7370 Год назад
Can you create a video playing Curses for commander or historic brawl?
@KPX01
@KPX01 3 года назад
Feels like one or two creature land is good for this deck.
@rayswift5711
@rayswift5711 3 года назад
You saw it coming!
@raulruiz9098
@raulruiz9098 3 года назад
WHAT A FANTASY!!!!
@LegendaryO34
@LegendaryO34 3 года назад
51:32 Obligatory: You saw it coming
@XblacklightZ
@XblacklightZ 3 года назад
I feel like this is begging to be put in a mill deck. Cursed mill as if we didn't hate I already
@john-markedmonds1915
@john-markedmonds1915 3 года назад
Would there ever be a reason to play Starnheim Unleased over Emerias Call? Seems 7mana for two 4/4s but a foretold Starnheim would be 7 *mana for three 4/4s?
@jerodast
@jerodast 3 года назад
It feels like this deck can be a bit high on the mana curve for the cards that really do the work, so it's pretty nice to have the mana option on Emeria.
@mistajames3213
@mistajames3213 3 года назад
Portable Hole is so dead. Even vs aggro it’s not great (Skyclave Apparition). You’re playing Black and white, sub it for Unexpectedly Absent or Bloodchief’s Thirst
@Mamutkailiai
@Mamutkailiai 3 года назад
When you cast cram session during the night, you should get only 3 life. ;D
@yoshipopolsku6560
@yoshipopolsku6560 3 года назад
cool, hope u will make some cool spirits bo1 deck, I try to make some but with not good results
@CardGamesTV1
@CardGamesTV1 3 года назад
I would use 3 drop chic to search teleportion circle and then use teleportion circle to Blink her to have an enchantment search engine. 😆
@mae.1651
@mae.1651 3 года назад
Thats pretty neat
@dassandman300
@dassandman300 3 года назад
Wouldnt Wizard Class fit like a glove in this one?? or am i missing something?
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
Discarding to hand size is usually not a concern as you'll be winning already.
@butdoesitscrub3457
@butdoesitscrub3457 3 года назад
I have a edh curse deck and it's my favorite
@tunarulesatca
@tunarulesatca 3 года назад
Spell binder would be so good with curse of silence
@gunner1612
@gunner1612 3 года назад
why no wizards class?
@Travissaur
@Travissaur 3 года назад
Curious, let’s say you use curse of leeches on yourself, do you lose one life then gain one life? If so then I bet you could make some gnarly B/W life gain or ajani deck. Edit: also would curse of surveillance be good in a Niv-Mizzet deck? I see that being pretty strong.
@jerodast
@jerodast 3 года назад
Hm, interesting idea. By my reading of the rules I think it would count as a gain life event and a life loss event, yeah. With that said, I would've thought there are simpler ways to trigger life gain every turn; for instance Fountain of Renewal only costs 1 and gives you that life every upkeep. On the other hand I dunno what would do that in standard right now.
@mastercheif-gl6zz
@mastercheif-gl6zz 3 года назад
@@jerodast you could play leeches on you then curse of silence on you and mill the enemy with curse of surveillance
@tdarassp
@tdarassp 3 года назад
Silencing a Saw It Coming be like: *nah, you really didn't*
@Breakbeat.
@Breakbeat. 3 года назад
There has to be someone out there that Curse of Surveillance's art triggers some sort of phobia to them. I love it but I would understand.
@jerodast
@jerodast 3 года назад
It reminds me of the _Batman Beyond_ intro. But creepier.
@greytoeimp
@greytoeimp 3 года назад
How is oppo playing ilysian caryatid in standard game 1?
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
It’s in the monogreen starter deck iirc
@bradleyhauf312
@bradleyhauf312 3 года назад
idk why, but, the curses were really appealing...
@ArcHourGaming
@ArcHourGaming 3 года назад
great video
@TheYuxiaodi
@TheYuxiaodi 3 года назад
Portable Hole seems like a dead card in most matchups
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
It’s a great tool vs aggro, deals with class enchantments and even answers the tokens from Wrenn and Seven. Just didn’t line up in some matches today.
@austinvannatter9348
@austinvannatter9348 3 года назад
@@LegenVD its been countering the new bonesaw massacre pretty well, too.
@epcfal
@epcfal 3 года назад
So what if you curse yourself and mill opponent by draw? I expect 10% winrate but that 10% would be worth it.
@_sevenster_5886
@_sevenster_5886 3 года назад
can u make a historic cures deck?
@dudlecore7358
@dudlecore7358 3 года назад
no mechanic to look at hand and actually use silence ?
@anchapin
@anchapin 3 года назад
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe add a duress or something.
@nbranch1311
@nbranch1311 3 года назад
This is fun
@m3marty
@m3marty 3 года назад
Blue curse doen't force you to draw. You can submit zero
@Lamnent
@Lamnent 3 года назад
If there were ever a place for Mordenkainen it's here, his dogs would be a 1hko every turn lol.
@vengeful_asura1382
@vengeful_asura1382 3 года назад
sad that the curse commander never made it to arena
@johnremembers7780
@johnremembers7780 3 года назад
CURSES to you for not building this deck sooner.
@Magzillas
@Magzillas 3 года назад
I missed it myself at first, but I'm pretty sure Curse of Surveillance's card draw is optional. "Any number of players" can be zero. So it shouldn't lead to self-decking unless you're looking for a creative way to forfeit.
@nateb.9947
@nateb.9947 3 года назад
“I curse you!… I should be in school!”
@ezerferrefin
@ezerferrefin 3 года назад
match 2 at around 24:30 you had enough for the combo you said with playing emeria's call then horde if you play a plains first.
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
Calling it a combo may have been a bit of an exaggeration as the Angels still die.
@jamesquick9843
@jamesquick9843 3 года назад
Curses!
@Fly1ngMan
@Fly1ngMan 3 года назад
Foiled again!
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven 3 года назад
Why does RU-vid want to translate this
@jamesquick9843
@jamesquick9843 3 года назад
@@NStripleseven It's cursed.
@philipvuong7373
@philipvuong7373 3 года назад
Wait can't you just submit 0?
@philipvuong7373
@philipvuong7373 3 года назад
nvm just read your comment.
@sirrexos1596
@sirrexos1596 3 года назад
It's funny how bad curse of silence is with these matchups. Every opponent plays "something unexpected" or just jank in other words. And still curse of silence was "unexpectedly" over performing...
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 3 года назад
A one mana curse would still be good even if it had no other text. Powering up Surveillance is what it’s all about. So if it does anything impactful on top of that it’s a great card.
@anchapin
@anchapin 3 года назад
If he was playing in the ranked que it would have been less jank.
@BIacklce
@BIacklce 3 года назад
Curse of Surveillance is what happens if you touch yourself too much as a teenager
@jamesking4736
@jamesking4736 3 года назад
so curse of salience sucks massive balls, in most of the matches it did nothing, curse of surveillance is great for mill control if you cast it on your self to trick your opponent into drawing cards. curse of leeches are great when you pair it with curse of shaken faith because your opponent can do there best to keep it as day and cast spells and take damage from both of them OR they can let it become night and you get a 4/4 with lifelink. otherwise not that great vs any deck
@weilzudope
@weilzudope 3 года назад
*curses*
@lilkyafroninja4671
@lilkyafroninja4671 3 года назад
Portable hole is just a bad card , idc about early game stuff I would much rather snipe the bigger stuff
@captaindc
@captaindc 3 года назад
Yo
@overshare7
@overshare7 3 года назад
Curse of leeches is pretty good the rest meh... Silence looks to be more a bo3 card
@wernerbeinhart2320
@wernerbeinhart2320 3 года назад
Surveillance is the strongest
@theaeskey2502
@theaeskey2502 3 года назад
1st
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