MTG Commander Gameplay Cassius Marsh vs Joe Manganiello vs Gabriel Luna vs BlacknetoTTJ Ep 45 

Immediately the comment I searched for.

this is true.

this made me want to scream

Yep! Storm is op. Also when will Cassius ever show the key cards he's using from his infinite mana combo. You should still be able to articulate and pull out the key cards to illustrate your win to completion.

Yep, I was here looking for the same comment. Cash had no mana, and there were two spells cast before Flusterstorm, so the storm count would have = 3. However, Joe also played it wrong and did not pick his targets for the copies.

He really does.

Yeah best dude at the table lol

He has great energy and attitude, I agree, besides being an wealth of experience. Though getting magiced on wouldn't hurt either.

💯

He's better to play with than Vin Diesel. Joe comes to the game sober usually and isn't nearly as annoying ❤

i fully agree with you

love how they talk about turn 5-7, then cassius is immediatly like yeahh idk about that this deck won a tournament. like what is the point of the conversation if ur just gonna ignore it.

Totally agreed. I was hoping to see the other decks pop off too

THIS! This part. Dude said “nice turn 0 talk. Anyways, I’m playing cedh monoblue and I’m trying to beat a record on how fast I can win.”

As aways the best card on cassius deck is the credit one

Definitely respect your point on that one, but it would be hilarious to see Gabe come out one episode and obliterate the table with a crazy storm deck or something!

Looking at Joe's jacket; I can hear that old school Xmen arcade music in my head!

Nah he said he does the plus so it doesn't. That's how he draws

He can't continue the loop if he ever does the plus on his original Teferi. He needs to do the minus in order to untap the Chain Veil so that he can continue to activate the Teferi. 1 Chain Veil activation = 1 Teferi activation, so if he ever uses the plus on the original Teferi, he won't have the capability to untap the Chain Veil and continue the combo. He needs the additional activations on a recast Teferi to ever activate the plus ability.

@@jlyxxy8 He had voltaic key to be able to untap the Chain Veil.

@@michaelchavis9770 key taps to untap, it's net zero in this loop. It also costs mana so even using it to untap vault doesn't improve the situation. He can untap the veil one time sure so he can plus one time extra but it's not necessary. He does have the combo but it was explained poorly. He has to net mana with the veil + teferi, minus until Teferi leaves, and it has to be enough mana to recast him including enough left over to pay for the commander tax. Every minus untaps veil, vault, crypt, and either island or sol ring. so (7 colourless), or (5 colourless + 1 Blue) minus 4 for the veil. If you can recast teferi once, you can loop forever since the new teferi can activate more times since chain veil adds activations for new planeswalkers counting every time the veil was activated this turn. Each activation is either +3 or +2 mana, and new teferi costs 8, so if he minuses at least 4 times before leaving the first time, he can loop forever with the additional veil stacks + recasts. Every extra veil stack can be used to plus teferi, netting more mana and more cards he is netting enough that each new teferi's commander tax is paid plus extra. It is infinite, since you can plus teferi with an empty deck, so he should be able to trivially win assuming he has a win condition in his deck somewhere.

This was my exact same reaction. I was hyped to see Joe play. I loved his character in Critical Role!

THAT. Joe is so cool but Cassius "imma scoop" marsh is insufferable.

It's painful and almost pointless to watch even if they all agree to the rule 0. Its just not as entertaining to see ONE player become the threat just because they are playing a stronger deck than the rest. It would be way more entertaining to see him actually play something in line with the others. It's not even a personality thing, I am just tired of seeing the low variety in decks that he plays, too.

Yeah the guy plays every game with his wallet, just lame as hell to see. I make remarks whenever I see similar obviously to a lower scale than casually dropping a 4k card at my lgs. I much prefer actually unique decks rather than seeing the same best in slot "staples".

Kinda agree here it just pulls all the fun out of the game. Then you have the other guests thinking their decks can compete, Joe needs to set Cash straight.

1000% agree. Ruined an episode with amazing guests. Black neto needs to set better experience levels so that he delivers a good experience to his viewers.

Four untouched pre-cons is the way to go.

Gotta double down on this comment. Like why purposely ignore the rule 0…

I think they have Cassius because he’s a big name and he seems to help Out Joe. Minus that I agree it’s not very entertaining to watch casual decks face Cedh decks … whenever Cassius plays that seems to be all he enjoys doing

Spends $35k on a deck and doesn't know how to play it Also plays Cedh deck against a new player lol Pain

Who played deathstroke

@@garyfalls3960 Joe Manganiello in Zack Snyder's Justice League

@@teejayaaron thanks. I figured it out right after I left the comment

Like bringing a nuke to a stick fight

😂 it’s already happening haha our play group does that all the time! Whenever I have my land destruction deck they bring all the counter spells lol

He seemed annoyed that the second game was headed the same way as the first. Which I completely understand. But to be fair, Joe won pretty much the same way. I dont really sympathize all that much. Except with Gabriel.

Cause he’s got money and he’s famous.

I was thinking the same thing. Should’ve been more copies of Flusterstorm.

Should have been 3 copies on the stack

Yeah I am a novice and I knew that XD

“I’m a novice and I knew that” 😂 y’all gotta relax it’s really not that serious. It’s a game and we are just kicking it. This is just us having fun. Things are gonna be missed sometimes, not a big deal. It’s how it would be in a real game with friends.

@@TabletopJocksits a good thing that people commented on this cause I actually didn’t know that about “storm” mechanic and I learned something from the comment.

They need to make a Arkhan the Cruel card for him!!!

@@shannonwatson8023 they should

He loves DND and Tiamat is a big character there in of. Definitely wanted on his part. Great steward of MTG and DND. His play on critical role is still epic gameplay.

@@ryanquinn1257 yup

It's so adorable , stole the show lol

this is always true

wow i missed that!! hell yea

That’s what’s up! Welcome to the fold! Glad you had fun because that’s the vibe 😎

yes they def missed that, common mistake. people assume it just makes it cost more to pay to not have it countered.

Sac Squee to Food Chain, make red mana, recast and sac him 10,000 times. Lots of red mana. Now sac him for blue mana, recast him using your bank of 10,000 red mana. Do this a bunch, and repeat for each other color. Infinite mana of all colors.

Additionally, doesn't Food Chain create mana of one color? So it'd make 4 mana of one color which has to be red to keep recasting Squee...so he's got infinite red mana. So how does Joe play Tiamat? Am I missing some detail?

@@archmagemechanic1 you make an additional mana each time. So you can get 'infinite' red and then use that to continue and get 'infinite' of any other colors as well. But it's only for casting creatures. You could use a creature like Ramos, Dragon Engine in this deck to filter that mana into other uses though.

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I feel like folks don’t have a regular friend group like this so they can’t relate. That’s literally all I do on the channel. Kick it with the homies. That’s what it’s all about. Who cares if we miss a couple triggers, we’re just having fun! 😊 thanks for watching!

I could be way off base but I think when folks come to watch a gameplay video online that's sponsored or revenue generating. They/there is an expectation of professional level play. But it's not a sanctioned event and there aren't judges so mistakes happen. @tabletopjocks there are ways to improve it like maybe getting a judge on set to help?

@@RequiemFortheFallen I think you might be off base then if you haven’t been following the content from jump. How much money do you actually think the show makes? I guarantee it’s not enough to pay for a judge to be on set for every game. Also, that isn’t the vibe of the show. This is for us to kick it and have fun. It’s commander, there are no stakes involved. Just friends coming together and having a good time. I like the show because it shows people just hanging out playing games with one another and it’s always been that. If it was another format I totally get it.

​@TabletopJocks just trying to give a little constructive criticism, you make a great product, knowing folks are going to be looking at those big gameplay moments closely as evidenced by the comments. Not saying I know the finances at all but maybe even just another player not involved directly in the game could help. It's your show though

@@RequiemFortheFallen no doubt, wasn’t being argumentative either just letting you know what’s going on behind closed doors. It may seem like everything should be on some huge budget but I’m making things work on the level that I have. I think next year people will see a huge change in the level of production as some recent developments have come up. I can’t do much about the current state of things but things will be better soon. I really do appreciate interactions like these because they give everyone more insight as to what’s going on. Appreciate your feedback. I actually did have a judge on set for the big Vegas day because when I’m on set playing 5+ games in a row for content things get a little muddy.

Also, you can’t flusterstorm a LED as it’s not a valid target. Brutal that they call themselves “competitive” players.