MTG's Weirdest Format - Party Box 

It was extremely amusing to see you play this thing with Cardmarket crew

Seeing this on CardMarket made me want to do 2 things: 1. Make my own 2. Hunt you down, Kenobi. (At a Magic convention to play it with you, should you be playing)

This needs Exodia because it would be very funny if someone somehow assembled it.

Wait hear me out. Commander party box where players roll a d20 to get a random commander. When a commander wins that player signs the card and puts a new legend in the pool.

I showed my buddy this and our group are adding 10 cards each to get it to 60 cards and go from there. The card market video was so much fun and we all loved it!

After seeing your video with the Cardmarket crew it honestly amazed me how crazy and malleable the magic ruleset is that a lot o this stuff just works within the game (with some minor house rules of course).

Parts of this vaguely remind me of a feature that the old InQuest magazine did, where they played multiplayer, but each player was playing a different card game, and on that player's turn, that game's rules applied as best they could agree to them. It was funny reading the table try to figure out how to handle Magic vs. Overpower vs. BattleTech vs. SimCity or whatever the hell they were doing.

I've been waiting for this video for one whole day since the cardmarket video

glad to see you lay out the philosophy and thought behind it because the Cardmarket video really made me want one

I have decided to start r/MTG Party Box community collab based on this format. Thanks for the great idea! I won't post the link because RU-vid, but it's there.

I got the Teferi's emblem in my opening hand during Barcelona Magiccon and been waiting for this video ever since. I loved playing partybox

Commander at its roots from what it sounds like, great idea.

It definately gives similar vibes as Judge's Tower. More goofy fun vs spikey fun, but the vibes are there.

Watched the cardmarket video yesterday, went looking for this & ended up watching a couple old videos of you playing this, it looks like a lot of fun!

This is pure, unadulterated madness and I can't wait to build one. Vince my boy, you are a genius

Watched you play this on cardmarket late last night and loved it! As a massive fan of cube and alternative mtg formats like DanDan variants, as well as EDH i shall definitely be putting this and judges tower together at some point in the future. Thanks for sharing! Looks like a blast 🥳🎉

i just watched the Cardmarket video with this and now seeing its origins and how to create one myself is great

I made one of these boxes and brought it to a friends this past weekend, and it was easily the most fun and funny games I’ve ever played. One of us ended up booster tutoring an NBA booster and we got lucky with one of the players (James Harden) being on the 76ers, allowing for a 0 mana 7/6 with Reach. Thank you for this great idea Vince, you’re a blessing on the community!

We need more party box content!

Me and my friends are always out there looking for some casual MTG fun at conventions, once for us to have fun and second for people being curious have an easier point of entry to join our fun. So after talking to one of my friends, I‘ve bought a few cards inspired by some of the comments left under this video, and it‘ll forever be my very own very personal Convention Diary. Instead of a book it‘ll be a fun signed collection of cards. This makes me super excited to go out and visit a few events!!! It‘ll be a nice chaotic welcoming memory archive v.v

Okay so I'm definitely going to create one of these, but I have a cool idea for it... Not just Booster Tutor to add to it but also things like Invasion of Arcavios and Karn, Great Creator to tutor from outside the game, but whatever they tutor becomes a part of the cube, a donation to the madness, if you will. Keeps their choices limited to what they're willing to give so it won't be broken easily. Sounds really cool! I am curious what the approximate number of jokers for, say, 300 cards should be.

This and the Cardmarket video inspired me to make my own Party Box! My friends and I have been looking for alternatives to Commander to play and this looks like it!

Since this released my party box had a few games and two things that happened for mine was 1. A friend of mine that only played yugioh with me for years saw the 'face down cards' and said "wait trap cards would work with that" and gave me some of his favorites that would kind of work 2. One player had the idea to write on the mtg joker card the chosen cards name, and you cant name one that is written on it already, which also gives it more variety Thank you for this, it has given is a lot of joy so far!

I made a comment on your Commander Banlist video mentioning rule zeroing Pokemon cards and then this shows up lol. Probably just a coincidence but I found this pretty funny either way.

I watched the party box video yesterday and now after watching this one I think I am going to go ahead and make my own party box. I have a lot of random cards from other card games that I no longer play then I'm very nostalgic for. And this will give me a really nice outlet for it. And it just sounds like a lot of fun. Thanks for the idea PK!

I love this idea, I love the videos you've done with the Cardmarket crew, and this seems like an absolute blast. I've got a few Cubeamajigs with Jumpstart/Jumpstart 2022 kicking around, but since I'm usually in for Commander night, having something that works for four people to screw around is perfect.

If you want to add more cards that adds card you could add contract from below or any other ante card. The player using the card then must add a card they own to the box

Fun fact, Duel Masters (MtG's sister game) has cards that interact with face-down lands. There are things like Crystal Soul 3 (Each face-down land you tap pays for 3 of this card's cost instead of 1) and Eternal Kappa (If this creature would leave the battlefield from effect or battle, you may instead turn 3 face-down lands you control face-up). I think they would be interesting to use in this.

your original Minicube video from aeons ago is what spurred me to make my own Minicube in 2019 which then evolved into a cube in 2022. I remember playing the minicube one day before class at Uni and my friend somehow mini stormed off into an Empty the Warrens for 4 or 5 and just shit stomped me

This has the same energy as the time ~9 friends and I decided to spontaneously play a huge game of Commander in college. One guy in our group didn't have his Commander deck with him so he pulled a bunch of random cards from his collection and a few of each type of land and declared that would be his deck. At one point in the mid/late game when everyone's board state was built up he played Ovinize on (I think) Ink-Treader Nephilim. Suddenly we had 9 people with boards full of 0/1 sheep and it's still one of my favorite MTG memories almost 10 years later.

I was so excited to see the card market video on this! I’ve had my own version of this for years now, mine leans more heavily into peasant cube than commander as far as vibes go. It can be played either 1v1 or multiplayer and there’s a lot of synergy with picking permanents up ie borderposts, flicker effects, aviary mechanic (and similar). The rules you have for searching and shuffling I might have to adopt, it can be a dexterity challenge to manipulate the deck lol

I watched you play with Carl and the guys at card market. Afterwards my wife and I created our own. We have plans this coming weekend to go play with some friends. Thank you for this.

What a beautiful way to share and make new memories, level the playing field and just have a wacky game of magic. I absolutely love it!

Loved the card market video and this concept, especially with your memories on cards and sharing with people across the world just makes this so wholesome. This has got to be the game Garfield intended.

It's so crazy- I made something I called Resource Management, it was a single deck, multiplayer format that used any card as a land that had a massive flicker strategy to flip over huge shit early Since watching the card market video and this one I have already upgraded it and changed it quite a bit Thank you!

Been waiting for this video since my partner and I got to play it with you in Barcelona! Absolutely love it!

Honestly, after watching the talk with Richard Garfield from Magic 30 TODAY - I think this Party Box comes very close to what he envisioned when he first created Magic. It's such a beautiful funny idea. It's just there to create good times and good memories. And the memories got to even stay in the box. Amazing and Beautiful! I hope we see many many more of these Boxes being played on Magic events soon :)

That's a really hilariously brilliant idea. It's wonderful hearing you so happy sharing all the cool moments you've shared over the years with this party box.

The moment I watched the Card Market video I wanted to do a box of my own for two specific reasons. One is similar to yours, memories. Started in tenth edition and to me there's a lot of sentimental value to some of the cardboard. The second reason: I can put the physical Inscryption (One of my favorite video games of all time, and a love letter to TCGs) cards that were meant to be memorabilia to actual use.

I have a lot of cards i like but nowhere to play them, this is the perfect way to show off the cards i like

I remember watching that one video where you played Minicube something like 6 years ago. I loved it, and was always curious where it went. I figured it was something like the "Entire deck is less than a dollar" commander series you did, and it just wasn't fun anymore, so you stopped making vids on it. I'm glad it's still alive and well, and with a much more appropriate name.

For cardfight vanguard, Since I saw this on the cardmarket video, I figure I would drop this here. -The power on the card is the power and defense of the unit. so if a unit has 10K power, it has 10K power. -The icon on the bottom middle of the card with the star is the critical icon, that tells you how much damage that card does. so when you attack an opponent directly, you are only dealing 1 damage. -In vanguard, when a card attacks, it can drive check. drive checks are draws but you reveal the top card of the deck. you then add the card you reveal to your hand. if you put triggers in your party box, they can do various effects when you check them. G3's have the twin drive icon so they get to check the top deck twice and add the cards they checked from there -In vanguard, there are certain cards that have a guard icon at the side of the card, those cards allow you to use the card instead of offense, for defense. This means that you can have a unit block for you if you desire from your hand and this happens during the guard step. I hope this helps people wanting to add vanguard cards to the party box

After watching the card market video yesterday, I was interested in making one, this helps! I had one set up last night and plan on playing with it tonight with some friends at the local game store. I’m really excited to, and really like how much this explained what I needed to do to fix mine!

So we have been doing this with our curated cubes but dont have the lands be all colors, you play lands face up and they are the types of the color of the card. It does two things to add tension: first you have to choose if you want to cast a powerful multicolor spell or play it as a land, and second it allows for better threat assessment as if someone plays grisslebrand as a land you know they have access to flicker grisselbrand and can make more informed choices. (It seems like this is not the direction you want to go, but others should try it). We do not have a designated party box, which certainly could be interesting, but whenever we have played at a store people are confused by the board state and cant figure out that spells are not just free.

I've been waiting for this video since Barcelona! Was a pleasure to play with you then and loved hearing the story of the Party Box now. May you have many more fantastic experiences with your beloved cube.

This is the greatest thing ever. Thank you so much. I cant wait to make a party box that has ultimate combat cards.

I just yelled at my husband to finally watch the card market video I sent him yesterday of yall playing this. I haven’t laughed that long in a while.

When you casually make a better version of universes beyond

My friend and I used to do something similar, but we'd just grab one of those ~200 card "value" packs from the local game store to use. Ended up with the house rule that I always go first, because at first we'd roll, and either I would win and take the play as an aggro-leaning player, or he would win and take the draw as a control leaning player, so we streamlined it :P

Aside from the cards from other games, this reminds me of Fat Stack. One big deck with lands, mana rocks, and mana dorks, and one deck with anything else. Everyone uses the same pair of decks and picks which and how much of it they draw when they do, and they share the graveyard as well.

No I want to see this on Shuffle Up and Play.

So I have set up something like this in the past and have not perfected it. this looks like perfection. My cards were All based on items, Places , Generic characters, Or simple actions In the card title, And oversized Planechase cards. This is really usefull to help my box I've had issues with😊 Thanks!!!!

Started putting my own together. Started with cards I loved thru my history of playing the game. Also asked my friends their top 5 favorite cards and threw them into it.

Gonna use this as inspiration for my own Kaiju themed party box

Idea for Batman: vilains are players that committed a crime that turn 😂

Love stuff like this. We've tried to balance EDH for years in my group with only some success, but we always tend to have salt. I made a cube that has helped to mitigate some of this, but it's nice to see a new spin on that.

Thank you, Vince, for this idea. I still have a lot of promo cards from game magazines from the nineties. Now I know what i can do with them. Should we ever meet at a convention, I’ll make sure to hand you a few to add to your party box.

party box is a lifestyle.

Holy heck this is absolutely my jam. At the moment in Spain they're selling Semana Santa cards (cards with religious icons on) and I really wanted to get some for something like this. Now I finally have an excuse.

Me and my friends do a similar but less wacky multiplayer same deck thing where we have 10 lands in a "command zone" (5 basics and 5 duals) and starting hand size of 4. Ours is specifically curated for multiplayer stuff and less pure chaos but no matter what the concept of a massive deck everyone is drawing from is very fun. People should definitely give building their own a go.

I think the best thing that could happen is if 5-Color became a format again. That was so much fun, especially with the version where if you lost a card to ante your opponent just gets to draw on it instead of actually taking the card. Oh yeah and sleeves were banned I still remember the guy at my store who had some P9 in his deck, too. 😂

Exchange of words would be amazing in that deck

I made something like this once. It was tons of fun and I highly recommend for all those non-serious nights you just need some silly magic.

I've got a random party MTG chaff box. You can construct any type of deck as long as it's a Grapeshot Catapults deck, or a 1/1 wolves deck. Game Night decks could easily be salted up to be fun for Parties also.

It's essentially a cube version of Dandân. I love it so much.

id love to see a lot more of this

Imma make my own version of this and bring it to my next commander game night at my LGS. I know a few people would be down for it.

This seems really fun! I'm seriously considering building one of these now. :D

I had an interesting idea. Spells that can be cast (with increasing cost based on the ability level) of going and using Urza's Fun House or Ask Urza and the card gets that ability. Could make it a modal spell where you get 3 clicks on the site and depending on the CMC of the card can pick more than 1 option.

Stuff like this is why I love card games and why I love Magic specifically. Magic has existed for so long and has graced many players, and as a result, a lot has been done with it. Projects like this remind players about the true joy and wonder of card games. Of sitting down with people and just having fun. And that's always a goal worth pursuing. I've recently made a similar deck following a Battle Box ruleset with very low power level cards in order to play Magic with my family again. Just building it alone was a ton of fun, and I highly recommend anyone to try it, even if no one plays it. The act of creation is sometimes all that is needed. I think I'm going to try making my own party box as well. I love trying to mash together several different games into one play environment and the hilarity and confusion that can ensue. If I can ever find files with my old custom cards in them, I might even make a party box that's full of my oldest custom cards as well.

This really makes me want to play this with you so I can add an ALF trading card in there. Watcing you play it with the cardmarket guys was awesome

ok, your game at Cardmarket looked like fun, thx for sharing this video with us, now i have to build my own partybox :)

A cool idea would be instead of regular jokers, you should put basic lands that act as jokers but JUST for cards of that particular color (including wastes) hehe

This is like multiplayer Kangaroo Court, which is a format where you play "normal magic" but you can define the rules with discussion, like "bad moon kills blood moon because the earth only has one moon" "but we arent on earth, we are on dominaria" Etc. etc.

I absolutely love this.

We used to play back in the pre-commander times (2006-7) a format called Limited Infinity. The rules are simple - it's a large collection of a few hundred cards in a box, everyone play from the same library or it can be split to the players, it's multiplayer, and you have infinite mana but you can cast only one spell per turn. This was quite a lot of fun honestly, it allowed to play with high CMC cards you never see like Yavimaya's Embrace and was very volatile and chaotic. You can put anything in it except for infinite mana that kills players (like Walking Ballista) though the one who carried it did some curation so it will be somewhat manageable and there won't be too many instants or counters since those tend to be quite powerful. (also cycling effects were very strong like Decree of Silence since they aren't spells).

I made a chaff battle box a few years ago. Similar, but less ridiculous. It's surprisingly fun

Putting one together but with a commander deck. Top card of that deck is face up and can be cast as your commander as long as you don’t control a commander already. Exceptions apply if you control a card with partner or background.

building my own right now.. tore apart my commander chaos deck i built. had a similar theme of craziness.. I love this idea

Grand nonsense in the greatest way. Inspiring. Definitely getting out my VS cyclops once i saw your batman!😂

I had the chance to play it at MC Barcelona It really is quite the experience ! Would advise it to anyone! (happy to have donated a Rapidash sleeve ;) )

Me and my buddies used to do something similar! we would all gather 20-30 cards we always wanted to play and shuffle them into a pile that goes in the center. You can draw from your deck or the center deck. You can spend mana to cast any card from the center pile. its evolved into a 200 card deck and that's where it stays. Whoever wins chooses a card from the deck to take out and they put something that isn't in it. I always have them put their number on a piece of paper to put behind that card and when someones previous card gets taken out then I message them 😃its been fun to see the deck evolve over the years!

With a shared command zone, the teferi emblem should also be shared, as emblems exist IN the command zone

Brainstorm (and other top of library stuff) seems so crazy fun.

This sounds like un-styled insanity of something i played once years ago i think called Fountain

this might not be pure Magic, but it is pure fun and joy

We have a similar pile to this, except we draft it, it has a weird selection of custom cards, cards from other games, a bunch of wild stuff.

This is why i got into dandan. "all in the box" mtg formats are my new fav thing.

Such an elegant design, I love it. Thank you 💚

Honestly, this seems like everything that I love about MTG packed together in one place. The stories and the Gathering has always been the best part of it for me, and this entire idea has it in spades. Can't wait to build my own, and just add to the great memories that the best card game ever made has given me already.

Should've called it fudge tower

Really tempted by this idea, sounds great and I loved the card market video. Had any thoughts on whether the one piece tcg would fit and how you would interpret the rules? I love the idea of incorporating leader cards in some way but it might just be too awkward!

I love this so much, don't know if I have a big enough collection to do this but one way to find out.

I made a tweak for this to make it magic centric, and make it "pod-able." People just need 30 sleeved magic cards that aren't basic lands. Everything else plays relatively the same, I just asked people to have different color sleeves to make it easier to take apart. With this change, people can randomly group up, shuffle their cards together, and fire a game.

Idea for jokers: use a special art land from any set you want, then the joker can represent any card from that set. Means you don't just get jokers played as the best card choice for that particular moment, but can have some more inventive selections

huh, this idea sounds really fun, I might try to make my own at some point

Ngl seeing the Cardmarket Video made me really wanna meet you at an event and play this with you for sure

Can't wait to jam this thing one day ❤ Thanks for the shoutout!

One of the fewest things i want to do in my life is play with this party box just to be part of its history

it sounds so silly and so fun, the face down for lands is genius