Funny thing about a set called "Modern Horizons" is that almost half of the cards on the list also see play in Vintage. I guess that just shows how absurdly strong this set really is. I wonder if any of these cards would have any chance of getting onto "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"! You should do that so I can find out.
Actually it's the opposite. Its a mark of their success not of failure. A set with the premise of hey lets make cards with modern power level in mind must have ban worthy stuff, or it failed
@@DimT670 Nothing says success like getting everyone's money with new cards that destroy established formats before making those cards absolutely worthless.
Hey Nizzahon, do you plan on ever doing top 10 creatures? Just top 10 creatures, no other qualifiers. I know its probably a daunting task but at the same time i'm really curious to see what is the very best creature in MTG
My Prediction before watching: Hexdrinker, Giver of Runes, Force of Vigor, Hogaak, Plague Engineer, Ice Fang Coatl, Wrenn and Six, Astrolabe, the Horizon Lands and Force of Negation
FYI, Wrenn is actually female. On the other hand though, it's two beings as one, so you could use "she" *or* "they" depending on how you see the character.
No no wren is a woman and one being. Six is the treefolk, who we know nothing about The card depicts two beings as one, but each is separate, thus why its named wren AND six
It's tempting to think 'this' is the 9 most broken, due to most players having recent experience with them. But the true power 9 (Moxes, Black Lotus, Ancestral recall, Time walk, Time Twister.) and friends (Sol ring, Mana crypt, Bazaar of Baghdad, Library of Alexandria, Mishra Workshop, etc.) still exist, and are still far more powerful then any of the cards on the list in the video.
This set killed Modern. Not because it was full of broken cards, though it was, but because this was when they shifted the business model from one where Modern decks were expensive but long-lasting to one where Modern decks won't last any longer than Standard decks but will cost four times as much
@@TheMCGamer2012 Those decks aren't likely to survive much longer, and if they do it'll be because they're constantly updated with new Mythics from overpriced and underprinted sets. You can still play control, but now you need Force of Negation. You can still play Jund, but now you need Wrenn and Six. The decks cost more to maintain and their long term competitiveness is less certain, even assuming you manage to dodge bans.
@@oliverwilson11 actually I would know the price to maintain/update those decks as I own all 3 except tron. They are among the safest lists in terms of bannings, and I have seen versions without W6, etc. very hard to say those are necessary. The only ban I've ever been hit hard with is the Mox Opal ban in modern hardened scales -> converted to pioneer format, into Walking Ballista pioneer ban
Force of Negation in some ways is more powerful than Force of Will because of the exile clause. It's single-handedly made the Legacy Lands deck irrelevant because they can just exile their Life from the Loam and completely shut down their engine.
I see where you're coming from but you got to remember, force of will can counter any spell, whereas force of negation only counters noncreature spells. which may not seem like a big issue, but when an opponent plays something like a oh idk a HOGACK turn 2, FoN just sits snuggily in your hands wishing it could do something.
The fact that there were 3 banned cards on this list Got me thinking Imagine a top 10: Top tens with banned cards Where Nizza goes and finds the 10 top ten categories that had the most bans. He could also do a top 10 weakest and strongest top tens where he finds the ten with the most overall points and the ten with the least
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Where do you get the data for those rankings? Anyone still runs a db with all the tournament decklists?
Well that would probably make its casting cost more equitable, but then it would increase its usefulness where you discard a card to get an effect based on its mana value, or a card's mana value when in play is used to achieve something.
The land cycle in MH2 is confirmed to be enemy fetchlands. Powerful white cards will probably happen tho, Wotc is looking to push white away from being the meme colour.
@@davidminor4213 I mean... Ephemerate broke Pauper XP. Giver of Runes is a staple, and Captain-Ranger of Eos saw some play... But yeah, compared to the other colours...
@@lincolncarvalho8739 I know. I ran Giver and Ranger-Captain in Mardu Shadow. Kaya's Guile is one of the most underrated card in all of Magic. It's just as good as K Command and the perfect representative of what Orzhov is all about. WOTC could probably reprint all the white MH1 cards into standard and it would be fine.
Force of Negation is a better design than Force of Will. FoW’s value is that it polices degeneracy, but it also moonlights as a bodyguard for the same degenerate combos it’s usually used to fight against. Force of Negation can almost only be used to stop the bad guys and not to help them.
Oh geez. The only question for this one is, did Hogaak dominate long enough to make it to number one? Or is a consistent performer like archmages charm going to take it down.
Wrenn and six is disgusting when it combos with liliana of the veil. You +1 wrenn first by getting a land from the gy. Then you +1 lilly by discarding that land card. Or you can cycle the combo the other way around also
An EDH All-Star, but it does see some play every now and then in Modern if for SOME reason you need the extra fetch land, and just need a basic land. It's definitely overshadowed by the OG fetches, but it's still a good card. I'm glad they designed it.
@@CanadianBaconPwnage lol yeah, that's why I'm a cheapass. Just get 4 of those instead of the true fetches and you can be effectively mediocre in every color.
Modern horizons, from a gameplay perspective, was a mistake. From a financial perspective I’m sure wizards made lots of money off of the hype of the set.
I'm terrified to see what cards WotC bans in the months it takes them to actually ban the broken cards they print in MH2. RIP Faithless Looting in Modern.
Faithless Looting was the power behind the previous two busted modern decks before Hogaak though. First Hollow One, then Phoenix. Faithless Looting was an interesting ban discussion, because despite being utterly dominant, it still allowed for diversity in the format by enabling various different graveyard strategies. But in the end it made the whole format too much about the graveyard. It had to go eventually. Now Bridge from Below; that was a martyr for Hogaak!
@@fidly4 I don't think modern being too graveyard focused was a good enough reason to ban it. It was just another unique aspect about the format. Banning looting in modern is like banning ponder and brainstorm on legacy.
