Definitely agree on no rocks in footings. My inspector would weep openly. But some of the comments about the mudmixer being slow or "just order a truck" are misplaced. I have a Multiquip (the big gas one) and a tractor with a bucket and I've poured a lot of concrete bag to bag. The only bad pour I had came off the truck. Way too much slump and barely got it finished (badly) in time. The rest looks great and not one crack over five years. I bought this and based on experience of others I expect to pour twice as much concrete in the same amount of time. Also, I do envy folks who can apparently call up a truck and get any amount they want and pay next to nothing, but that doesn't fit any reality I'm in out here in NE Kansas. If you want to pour anything short of a big office building or large house foundation or a new stadium at the university they say (literally) "we will see if we can fit you in on that day but I don't really know, it all depends on if we have drivers and if we don't have bigger jobs, but we can try. I'll call you that day at 8:30am and let you know." Sorry. No way. Of course my multiquip is cheaper to buy but the benefits of Mudmixer are substantial and you just need to watch the many videos by small pour pros and DIYers to see that. Sold me.
The big rocks actually weaken the footing and putting those rocks on top of the rebar weakens it more - it's the Portland around the aggregate, & the concrete around the rebar that makes the footing strong. The bigger rocks have surface adhesion on a broad surface which is not as strong as surface adhesion of the Portland around 1000's of aggregate stone. If the footing cracks, as concrete often does at some point, it will be around those rocks. Besides doing concrete for years I experienced this myself. I knowingly bought a 100 yr old house that that had a crumbling foundation, but what I didn't know was they used stone and brick as fillers in the footings and stem wall and over time it broke away from the brick and stone. Finally had to have the house jacked up & have everything removed & redone (@ $40,000). Good news is concrete is much better now than it was then so he"ll probably be ok for his lifetime I think as long as he does't have much ground movement, expansion or contraction, a lot of moisture & of course the load that's put on it. If you've ever ordered concrete in a truck, you'll notice it has twice or maybe 3 times the amount of stone in it than bag concrete does. When I use bag concrete I feel like the Wendy's commercial - WHERE'S THE ROCK?!! I think for the concrete DIYers out there this mixer is the coolest thing I've seen in my lifetime. I've been looking at this for sometime now and the only 2 cons for me is the price (but you can rent) and it can't handle as much aggregate as commercial concrete has. In Okla., if you're not a existing contractor with what ever company you can't get concrete do to shortages (& they don't like messing with home owners), so for the DIY'ers, bags or custom mixing are your only option. I'm getting older now (70) & all the years of construction have caught up with me, but this looks a lot easier then moving around my much heavier mixer ( cause it to is old like me). There is no such thing as easy concrete work - you still have a lot of bending over & those bags are still heavy & getting heavier each year! One RU-vidr said on his channel that the company was improving the machine so that could handle aggregate even better with out jamming the augar which doesn't happen often I assume. He did say you want to have the water running before you put your bag in & don't use the machine hose while mixing is going on - it decreases amount of water going to the mixer & changes your slump - I think that depends on your water pressure. If they could make it where it could handle a lot more aggregate, that would be the perfect machine!!! Over all this is a pretty good job & I love watching people build stuff, but if you're going to work that hard, don't cut corners - looks like maybe 6 or 8 bags more would have make up for the stone.
Thank you for your kind comment. My uncle isn't putting a big load on top of those footing so he decided to put those rocks in there even though I advised him against it. I purchased the machine and wanted to see how well it did, which did not disappoint me. I've used the regular drum mixer but that's way too much work and more people are needed to mix it so you don't wear yourself out.
I enjoyed reading Mr. Johnson’s comment. How I wish to have especial section of RU-vid where we can learn from wisdom of older construction guys who have done the work for themselves and willing to write a detailed comment like that. God Bless John
I think the problem with big rocks in there is that they will create voids under them, but that could be mitigated with one of those concrete vibrators that vibrate out the air bubbles.
@@basketofdeplorables4253 The concrete is weakened, because large rocks actually act as a void, go and build a stone wall, then smash it with a sledge hammer, it will fall apart, build a proper re enforced concrete wall and try to smash it down.
Great machine they need to come out with one about twice the size and speed and this would be a game changer. This one moves a little slow for me but great if you need to move it around. I would rather bigger and faster. Great start though I’m sure they will come with more models.
yeah especially after having to wait on the truck to get to the jobsite. could be 30 min to 4 hr wait on them trucks. Ill never forget the brick work labor job I had one summer. Anyway now your able to get to a tight spot in a backyard this would be great along with your upgrade idea.
Well done sir! Yeah the mud mixer is a great machine. I just ordered the hopper extension for mine , but mine paid for itself in three jobs so I’m impressed. Good luck with your machine and keep up the good work.👍🏼🤩🫡❤️
The machine looks very practical to work with but also looks to slow if they can make it a little bigger and faster for sure it would be one of the best machines out there
i live in twincities MN, is there any shop that i can rent weekly the mud mixer. It will cost almost 3,000.00$ to purchase one, since i dont need that for many projects.
Here in Australia, it is best practice where a hard surface meets another hard surface (the existing slab/concrete structure meets the new slab/footing - being poured) to put in a strip of 'Able-Flex' - which is a 10mm thick x 100mm high foam pad strip along the mating surfaces. This will allow for some movement without cracking the majority of the new job and sacrificing structural stability. Good work, it is good to see 'the man in the street' who is prepared to stump up with enthusiasm and physical effort to get a job done to their satisfaction, without relying on a (relatively expensive) building contractor. It is construction after all, not rocket science. 99% common sense. **As my mum always told me growing up, Learn to 'Do it yourself,,,,,,, Because nobody else will do it yourself!'
He said it took three hours (with a break) to mix and pour 2 pallets, with 2 people "and a helper". How long did it take you to mix 5 pallets and with how many people on a regular mixer? I'm just trying to figure out the labor/time comparison to see if this unit makes sense to purchase and if it would pay for itself and how quickly.
@@Musclecar1972 😂 Kurt, I was going to say that; but you beat me to it by a month! There just to many things wrong with this operation, IMHO. (Don’t get started, Roy. 😆) Take care, RL Buffalo, NY
It’s not sponsored. I just wanted it to help with a few projects around my property and hope to make my money back in the future with side jobs. I’ve use a traditional mixer but it takes a whole lot longer and more man power to get it done in a timely manner. It’s expensive but worth it. If it was for a one time project, i would just stick with a traditional mixer. But if you can afford it, I’d say go for it!
How much did you pay for that machine my friend? How much Is the Quickrete per bag? and lastly, How many bags does the machine do in an hour? I'm planning to get one too, thanks for your honest answers.
You can visit www.mudmixer.com for the latest price. You'll do about 40 bags of 80 lbs concrete per hour. 1 bag of 80lbs concrete as of this writing is $5.79 plus tax
This was a great video!! Thanks for taking the time to post it! I've been wondering how well the Mud Mixer would work on a decent sized job. It sounds like you can run about a yard per hour through the machine. There's a rental place about 45 minutes from me that has one. I can get it for about $200 for a week. That should give me plenty of time to pour a decent sized shed pad. Subscribed to your channel! Looking forward to watching some more of your tractor related videos.
@@tmach58 $200 for a week seems like a steel. Im considering of buying one ($3,000) and renting it for $160 a day. A equivalent wheelbarrow from hime depot is $109 24 hr
Yes, i had it on 46-50 on the dial. The water pressure wasn’t the greatest on this pour so I found that 48 was best for a constant mix. Also, I noticed by keeping the machine as level as possible made it less necessary to adjust the water dial. I think with good water pressure, a mix at 46 is good.
I would like this machine if the rotor stater was at least double the size! Thats going at a snails pace. Thanks for the video though. Hopefully they'll be smart and making a larger size. That size is way too slow.
Concentrated cement powder is relatively expensive. The compressive strength of the concrete will be similar to rock inclusions. So try to introduce some rock to take up some of the volume. Generally cheaper, without losing out considerably on strength. Building is not rocket science. Experience and common sense is all that is required. Just think it through.
3000 dollars LOL Oh and how long before the auger rubs thru the pipe? Im gonna say about two or 3 jobs and it'll be junk. needs a poly edge gimmick on the screw and a bearing to hold a very small clearance so there is no rubbage and or rock getting under only water. metal to metal ,sounds like its destroying itself..
Every time he use that hose to wash the Hand Float he change the consistency of the mix it took away from the water pressure… He should keep a 5gl bucket near by full with water next time to wash the tools…
To save material yous use rock big small only check is good cover and yocan save a lot on materials in mexico the foot is whit big rocks and concrete in spaces and have more weight the USA
I won't lay block on that footer I've seen some bad ones in my day but cutting a course of block to make hight is a footer job gone bad oh and all those rock 🪨 😆
1 piece of rebar and a bunch of rocks? I hope you're not in California because in about 6 months whatever is built on top of that is going to fall apart when that foundation crumbles. I know no inspector would have passed that for sure. Mixer looks nice though...
I completely agreed with you and did not recommended putting rocks in it; however, I wasn’t getting paid to tell them what to do. My job was just mixing in the concrete for them.
This is a perfect example of how not to pour a footing. 1st thing I noticed is as he’s spreading out the concrete it’s not level with the form. It’s not very deep and it’s certainly not very wide. Typically in the US it’s supposed to be 12” wide (I believe). Also the forms aren’t very stable. All those bags are about $4-5 each. Isn’t a cement truck cheaper? Certainly easier.
@@tractorworkandmore411Do commercial construction - our last structural slab pour was 450 yards of 7200 PSI concrete power troweled with 50 yards of 10k psi columns in a monolithic pour (rebar was up to 1-1/8. The small jobs are just as important and sometimes as difficult as the big jobs. Good job guys. Deep enough is deep enough, Wide enough is wide enough and Big rocks make strong concrete. Carry on!!
Depends, some concrete suppliers req a min load, of its a small load sometimes the call it a short load and cost more, and if the truck doesn't have access you would need a bunch of wheel barrels or contract a concrete pump. And a concrete supplier delivery is on a timer, you take to long it starts costing you for the wait time. So bag vs truck it would depend on your budget, available manpower, size of job, accessibly, and time frame.
Great video now ! Now lets not talk about what he doing , and how he doing it . Let just talk about the machine in doing it work ! That what this video about you people!! You all hater , and that facts...
Thank goodness for fast forward, should call it slowcrete, and while your at it throw some more rocks in for good measure, will improve the strength.🤣🤣
Jim it's people like u, that make creators quit, why don't u try to not talk if it is not positive, u probably don't even know how to screed and most of all u do t even have a profile picture, why don't u start there, take a picture w your phone and re size it to fit in the circle, that away people know u r not fake
@@GRUBB-MUDD what he said was positive, telling him not to throw rocks in, the rocks could end up as a weak point and crack the footing which could run up the wall, the kind of advice that could save a lot of people a lot of money, as for the photo bit why does a photo mean what you say is valid.
I don't see how this could be more efficient than a concrete truck?? Load into wheel barrel and dump. Soooo much labor involved here, no freaking way! Thank you for making this video though!! The world needs to see this to draw their own conclusions!!
You obviously need to understand the new way to do concrete work innovated by a Cajun Couple doing DIY. They invented a new dry pour method that gets rid of any need for mixing. just pour the bags and sprinkle with water and voila you are done. Work smarter not harder. LOL - sarcasm off…. Nice job doing it the right way!
4:50 using the hose gun changes the mix water ratio and dry mud comes out. This is a problem with the machine design and should be watched out for. Additionally it should come with the extension collar as standard to make it a one man machine as that's the intended market given its slow speed.
Guessing no inspection pitiful footing not deep enough or wide enough very slow process and if you started on other side you could pull machine so you wouldn’t have to keep moving hose and cord hopefully you’ll be done before Christmas
Gas powered mixers are everywhere and readily available to anyone. I often use one at work and I can say for sure I could have had that mixed and finished off in an hr. And that's by myself lol. And for anyone that is interested if you would happen to purchase said gas mixer, swap out the rubber shoes on the paddles for steel shoes as they're for mortar and not concrete, the aggregate in the concrete will chew up the shoes in no time...
The costs of using pre mix cement is stupid for such a project, go and buy the raw materials and hire a cement mixer and do it, your savings will be 50% or more depending on size of project, pre mix rapid set was only meant for using around posts and such, small scale projects, not for doing foundations or large pours, using large stones in the pour isnt a good way of doing it and I would advise anyone not to do it, plus your reinforcement reo would be stronger if boxed.
Using heaps of rocks instead of bar chairs to hold up the reinforced mesh is not to code - if an inspector sees this, it will not pass . I appreciate your hard work but it's not to code.
Those rocks will be the weak spots. If yer ground freezes n thaws, that'll be where the cracks pop up. Rocks through the whole thing, cracks through the whole thing. 10 yrs.
Sorry, I commented before I look at the video before they started this pour now that I’m six minutes and secondsj into it I wonder which moron is in charge of this pour? And the biggest problem here is they think they’re doing a good job!…..NOT! And the very best thing is there’s a fan blowing in the yard 40 feet away
