Mud & Ruts vs Ford F-150 Lightning - Can Ford's Electric Pickup Do Well Off-Road? 

I think that percentage is only because many people buy trucks because they have powerful V8s 4 doors and can tow stuff, Like the average American sedan and wagon did for generations. The problem is Detroit and Japan only sell fuel economy boxes in front wheel drive with no frame so they're only good for hauling people not people and your stuff. But if we were to look at people who actually use their truck for work, most construction sites and farms have far worse spots to get stuck with your truck. So you are correct with your numbers but not because the majority of truck buyers use their truck as a truck, they are substituting for a lack of power full frame cars.

75% of what Trailboss/Rattler/Tremor/Rebel owners would subject their trucks to

I think this might be the most nuanced and reasonable take from an internet comment I have seen on the rise of Trucks, SUVs and crossovers. They took over, because sedans got worse from a practical sense. Sure they have better power, and they have better rides and fuel economy, but from a practical perspective you can't use them like the old boats. You can't even tow small light campers with them, trunks might be big but the openings are restricted. Where I live, some legal roads have changes in grade so sudden that modern sedans with their low clearance can't actually make it without some damage. I shouldn't NEED a crossover so my kid can visit his grandma, yet I do. I'm fact, I actually have to fix the paintwork under my wife's car because she took our kid to grandmas, her car has 6 inches of clearance.

NO desire for a AV Anxiety vehicles . Overpriced and stressful.

This truck was spinning in wet grass 😂😂 this truck is a joke of a 4x4

Where are these affordable houses at?! 😂

Yes lol , in this day and age , almost everything is expensive , not that things where especially easy to come by in the old days , you still had to work your ass off to make a dollar and buy a car or a house , but dollars was worth more back then , and material things where less plastic fantastic imo , i dunno , maybe i`m too old , but i miss the old days ..@@mikeflanary642

My problem is horrific range when towing, charge times and $$$ for new batteries… that’s partly why Ford can’t sell them.

Waaay too much money..

Exactly. Normal trucks are not meant for off-roading, they are meant for hauling dirty things in the bed and heavy towing except almost nobody buying trucks today does that so marketing needs something else to sell you these extremely expensive and unnecessary vehicles for daily driving.

My old man has a work spec F-150, single cab, 8 footer. The "dream" truck of many online commenters. No screens, interior is vinyl and plastic. That thing is hilarious when it hits dirt. It's got the 4x4 to force itself over mild ruts, but you can hear the frame screaming the whole time and he about ripped off one of the running boards last year. Definitely not meant to go off-road, and in its current state is less off-road worthy than some "soft road" crossovers like Jeeps, Subarus and the Bronco Sport.

Not really. The extreme weight is also a major factor.

@@rfjohns1 can't say I fully agree. Yes, a normal f150 crew is about 5k lbs and the electric is 6500 lbs. But if 1500lbs would make an otherwise identical f150 too heavy to off-road, then over landing wouldn't work as a 1500lb gear load out or truck bed camper puts a normal F150 at this same weight. Note that, over landers and off-roaders typically take their stock trucks and put increased suspension and tire sizes, with more aggressive tires, on their vehicles, and if that was done to this truck the results would likely have been far different. So, no, I don't think weight is the exclusive factor here (although it doesn't help) but rather stock ground clearance and highway terrain tires. But for all fairness I do believe the normal f150 has just under an inch more clearance off the lot so would perform slightly better on the same tires as this EV, and either empty or a 1500lb payload.

@@jg8263 Sure, but since the baseline is 1500lbs heavier, you're looking at an extremely heavy vehicle once you fully outfit it for overlanding or anything else. Add in the range penalty and very high cost, then why??

Off roading isn't a "truck thing" , hauling and towing are "truck things". Some trucks can ALSO off road.

This can do a lot of truck things. Honestly people talk about these trucks not being able to do real work like towing but they forget that not every tow job is 12,000 pounds cross country. A lightning would probably be fine for a lot of city work towing a generator or other machinery to different job sites since it only needs to go maybe 20 or 30 miles. Yards or garages could be easily be setup so these could level 2 charge overnight.

The vast majority of trucks are just glorified grocery getters these days

NO desire for a AV Anxiety vehicles . Overpriced and stressful.

Exactly!

It’s called the Silverado EV

I should mention I have an XLT Lightning. It was “only” $60k US. I had price protection because I reserved on day 2

How do you like it ?

@@pajamatime5750 I love it so far. It serves my needs. I don’t tow, my commute is under 10 miles (one way) and my long trips are under two hours out. Which is just enough to get me there and back home. I use Fords mobile charger at home. Convenient. And I certainly love the speed of this thing! And I’m learning to love and adjust to the silence. I still love the sound of a V8!!

You mean city driver which is exactly what 80% of trucks are used for

Meh , they will still suck mate , yes they have electric everything but , but a general rule of thumb is that the more whizz bang crap your vehicle has , the more likely you are going to have more failures . Imagine what all the electric shit boxes are going to be like after 10 years , and think about that battery range and if you decide to replace the diminished battery , one word ......... OUCH !

Hilarious

Yep , and it will be interesting to see how the batteries and range degrade as the years roll on , and if you are someone that is a battler that a car is a big purchase , and buys a vehicle and keeps it until its service life is kaput ( IE ... the car is rooted ) , how are these EVs gonna go long term ? ( i suspect they will be shit ). my last ice car ran like a top its whole life , it had 17 years hard life on it when i decided to park her up , it still had unopened engine ,gearbox and diff and drove and ran like a beauty with only general maintenance , and the only reason i didnt give it a refresh was 17 years of being the family taxi and tow car in the big smoke (AKA suburbia ) , never seeing the inside of a garage and left out in the weather , the body was fairly knackered . I seriously have my doubts about the longevity of a lot of the EV`s . It would be nice to know what a replacement battery is worth for every new EV , people do not think of this stuff , and i`d take a punt most car makers wont be advertising it , and also wont be replacing the batterys unless it meets the accepted degradation rate in the fine print deemed by the company , in other words , they are not just going to give you a free battery easily unless its really stuffed , and if its not a freebie , the owner is going to have to fork out the equal of a deposit on a house for a new EV battery . . Interesting times ahead .

The problem with that though is your range will probably go down 50% changing the tires. That's why they put highway tires on them so they can get their mileage ratings.

Hilarious. NO desire for a AV Anxiety vehicles . Overpriced and stressful.

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I’ll go electric for my truck.

Hilarious. It will have a 100 mile range at best 🤡☝️

NO NO off road muddy roads spinning tires actually helps your batteries. We all know a smooth efficient road is way worse.

😂😂😂😂@@scottw595

@@mikldude9376 I swear were living in the movie Idiocracy

Yes , its a funny old world we live in mate :) @@scottw595

Hilarious. NO desire for a AV Anxiety vehicles . Overpriced and stressful.

That’s a good point I wish we could get a Toyota Land Cruiser 70 series

The rivian would eat that for breakfast it has double the clearance at 15.3 inches and comes with a good pair of All terrain tires

Have you ever tried lifting a vehicle with four corner independent suspension?

@@blegi1245 I’m sure the engineers from a billion dollar company can figure it out.

@@Silverback_GMT410 imagine being this dumb.

Hilarious. With a 100 mile range at best. Ladies truck 🏳️‍🌈

@@Silverback_GMT410. They just lost billions building EVs 🤡☝️

why?

Yeah, why? Isn't there still high demand for it?