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How to use Euclid's Algorithm to find a multiplicative inverse of 3 (mod 26)

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@kirstensee6459
@kirstensee6459 5 лет назад
please add brackets when you're arranging/evaluating the terms on the left!
@luckywitch0128
@luckywitch0128 4 года назад
I'm trying to use this method for MI of 2 mod 9 and am just absolutely lost. I only get one formula so I can't do the substitution part of this
@NathanStraub92
@NathanStraub92 3 года назад
I’m practically crying thank you
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 3 года назад
You're welcome!
@isnintendo8656
@isnintendo8656 9 месяцев назад
this video is the best so far. excellent explanation!!
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 8 месяцев назад
Wow, thanks!
@stuartmeadowcroft1802
@stuartmeadowcroft1802 Год назад
Thanks for the straightforward video - more tutors need to realise that you need to start with the simplest possible example!!
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@axeldiaz7960
@axeldiaz7960 9 месяцев назад
Hello! Really appreciate the video! Does this mean that if 7 and 24 weren’t comprime, there would be answer? Because there would be no v and w such that 7v + 24w = 1?
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 9 месяцев назад
There would be NO answer
@iHaCKeRXZ
@iHaCKeRXZ 6 лет назад
Thanks , i did it with 7 mod26 (it's 15) and i ended with this : 3x26-11x7 . so what should i do with the -11 .
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 6 лет назад
Add on 26 to get 15. Does that make sense?
@boudortest
@boudortest 5 лет назад
@@MathsWithJay excuse me but why ?
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 5 лет назад
@axel ava: In mod 26, -11 is congruent to 15 (and -11 + any multiple of 26 ).
@kaursingh637
@kaursingh637 3 года назад
my lord whether we will find modulo maths in discrete maths book ? or number system book ?
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 3 года назад
I teach this as part of number theory
@aeiou1303
@aeiou1303 4 года назад
I can't understand where 9 came from in =9x3-1x26
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 4 года назад
At what time in the video?
@huicheng9160
@huicheng9160 4 года назад
bruh theres a 8x3 in the back, so she combined the 3s, making 9x3.
@maherriyadh5647
@maherriyadh5647 4 года назад
3v = 1 - 26y , where did you get 1 from ?
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 4 года назад
@Maher Riyadh: The right hand side of the congruence is "1".
@joshuawalfall
@joshuawalfall 2 года назад
This was a great tutorial, thank you
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 2 года назад
You're very welcome!
@supremepizza2267
@supremepizza2267 Год назад
i am kind of confused where the 9 cam from at about 5:12, if you added 3 + 8, doesn't that equal 11??
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay Год назад
No! ... 3 + 8 x 3 = 1 x 3 + 8 x 3 = (1 + 8) x 3 = 9 x 3
@muellerhans
@muellerhans 5 лет назад
This with 7 would be interesting. Since I don't get 1 on the left side for backwars substitution but 2.
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 5 лет назад
@Hans ... 7 instead of what?
@muellerhans
@muellerhans 5 лет назад
@@MathsWithJay 3. So 7 mod 26.
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 5 лет назад
@Hans...so you want to solve 7v congruent to 1 (mod 26) The first part needs to be continued until you get a "1", so there will be three lines of working before you start backwards substitution...the third line will be 5=2x2+1
@CodingJesus
@CodingJesus 3 года назад
@@MathsWithJay 26 = 8 * 3 + 2. 7 = 2 * 3 + 1. Where did you get 5 = 2 * 2 + 1?
@amriohm
@amriohm 3 года назад
Thank u a that’s helpfull 🙃❤️
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 3 года назад
You’re welcome 😊
@trollfack2966
@trollfack2966 2 года назад
Can you explain why the reciprocal modulo can't be 2,4,6 or 13?
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 2 года назад
At what time in the video?
@trollfack2966
@trollfack2966 2 года назад
@@MathsWithJay it's not in the video but I couldn't work it out
@anishakundu4851
@anishakundu4851 Год назад
Because 2 and 26 are not relatively prime ig
@vlamz7419
@vlamz7419 5 лет назад
how do you find the multiplicative inverse of 2
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 5 лет назад
@jongdream: If you work through the same method as shown in the video, you would get 2v + 26w = 1 where v and w are integers, so the LHS of this equation is even and the RHS is odd, showing that it is not possible to find a multiplicative inverse of 2 in mod 26.
@khoadiep3774
@khoadiep3774 Год назад
so how can we find the inverse of 26 (mod3) ?
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay Год назад
How do you think you would start on this?
@zahidhasanmozumder1075
@zahidhasanmozumder1075 2 года назад
I think that will be 3v = 26w + 1 instead of 3v = 1 -26w
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 2 года назад
Your w will have the opposite sign to mine...so it will still work
@yifuxero9745
@yifuxero9745 7 месяцев назад
Multiplicative inverse of 3 mod 26, no problem. Write out the continued fraction representation of 3/16 = [ 8, 1 2] Underneath write the convergents [1/8, 1/9, 3/26]. The answer is the denominator to the left of the 26, = 9 since 3 * 9 = 1 mod 26..
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 6 месяцев назад
Why not make a RU-vid video to explain this?
@yifuxero9745
@yifuxero9745 6 месяцев назад
Thx, I'll try to get all of the instructions into one paragraph.
@Reedz22
@Reedz22 6 лет назад
how you get 9 x 3 - 1 x26?
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 6 лет назад
3 + 8 x 3 = 9 x 3 and the - 1 x 26 is the same as the previous line. Does that answer your question about 5:24?
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 5 лет назад
3 + 8 x 3 = 9 x 3 and the - 1 x 26 is the same as the previous line. Does that answer your question about 5:24?
@musteroogway6962
@musteroogway6962 5 лет назад
Where did you get 9?
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 5 лет назад
3=1x3 and so altogether we have one plus eight lots of 3, so nine.
@manu-mm4pc
@manu-mm4pc 5 лет назад
I dont see how 3-1X(26-8X3) give 9X3...
@farnazjalili5620
@farnazjalili5620 4 года назад
Why this doesn't work for 13?
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 4 года назад
@Farnaz Jalili: 13 in place of 3, 1 or 26?
@farnazjalili5620
@farnazjalili5620 4 года назад
@@MathsWithJay in place of 3. thanks
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 4 года назад
@Farnaz Jalili: Because 13 and 26 have a common factor (13). If 13v is congruent to 1 (mod 26) then 13v=1+26k where v and k are integers, so 13v-26k=1 or 13(v-2k)=1....this is impossible because the left hand side has a factor of 13, but the right hand side does not.
@yuanshi269
@yuanshi269 3 года назад
How do you know that it is nine from the fourth solution?
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 3 года назад
At what time in the video?
@yuanshi269
@yuanshi269 3 года назад
@@MathsWithJay 5:18
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 3 года назад
3+ 8x3 = 9x3 because 1+8=9
@yuanshi269
@yuanshi269 3 года назад
@@MathsWithJay thank you that helped me a lot
@harshberiwal7200
@harshberiwal7200 5 лет назад
Though, the video was great. Thanks
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 5 лет назад
@Harsh: Thank you!
@HakarDoski
@HakarDoski 3 года назад
5:16 how did you know that 1 is 9 times 3?
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 3 года назад
Because in mod 26, 27 is equivalent to 1
@HakarDoski
@HakarDoski 3 года назад
@@MathsWithJay if I use 7 does the algorithm become? 26 = 3x7 + 5 7 = 1x5 + 2 5 = 2x2 + 1
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 3 года назад
Yes...can you continue to do the next stage?
@HakarDoski
@HakarDoski 3 года назад
@@MathsWithJay nooo, that's where I'm struggling, I know it becomes: 5=26-3 *7 2=7-1 *5 1=5-2 *2 and 1=5-2*(7-1*(26-3*7)) but after that, I don't know what happens
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 3 года назад
Do it step by step: 1=5-2*2 1=5-(7-5)*2 1=5*3-7*2 1=(26-3*7)*3-7*2 ....Now write this so it is 1 = a combination of multiples of 26 and 7
@billygraham5589
@billygraham5589 5 лет назад
Uh... I may not know what I am talking about, but it appears that the multiplicative inverse of 3 (mod 26) would be 35. I say this as 3(9) = 1(mod 26) >>> 26 + 9 = 35 >>> 3 x 35 = 105 >>> 105 -:- 26 = 4 R 1 >>> therefore 35 = the multiplicative inverse of 3 (mod 26). I saw this method on another video, and I don't fully understand it, but I do somewhat understand it, and I can see that 3 x 35 brings you to "1" on the mod 26 "clock." Yes???? What do you think? So what are we being taught in this video? Seems we are being taught to solve Bezowt's Theorem, but not actually being taught to come up with the multiplicative inverse of 3 (mod 26).
@floatingyunsan
@floatingyunsan 2 года назад
Where did the 9 come from 🤦🏻‍♀️ahhh thi s is too hard
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 2 года назад
At what time in the video?
@yifuxero9745
@yifuxero9745 7 месяцев назад
Here's an easier way; With your pocket calculator write the partial quotients of 3/16 = [8, 1, 2]. Underneath, write the convergents = [1/8, 1/9, 3/27]. The answer is 9, the denominator to the left of the rightmost fraction. Rules apply to a mod n where n > a and gcd (a, n ) = 1. Rules differ slightly if you get a continued fraction with an even number of partial quotients. Example: Find 3 mod 58. As before, the partial quotients are [19, 3] and underneath we have [1/19, 3/58]. In the case of an even number of partial quotients, take the difference of rightmost and next denominator to the left = (58 - 19) = 39. Correct since 3 * 39 = 117 which is 1 mod 58.
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 6 месяцев назад
Why not make a RU-vid video to explain this?
@user-no7mm9en4s
@user-no7mm9en4s Год назад
please moan my name in next video.... really lovely voice
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay Год назад
user-no7mm9en4s is a long name...
@azumamurakami7842
@azumamurakami7842 3 года назад
3X=1 mod26 then 29X=1 mod26 --------(1) -23X=1 mod26 --------(2) (1) + (2) 6X=2 ----------(3) (3)X4 + (2) X=9 mod26 Ans. 9
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 3 года назад
Interesting
@That_Singing_Nurse_Dude
@That_Singing_Nurse_Dude 4 года назад
um what
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 4 года назад
at what time in the video?
@tom-pd2uk
@tom-pd2uk 4 года назад
ty for this still didnt help our lesssssson
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 4 года назад
do you have a similar question to do?
@omonotahustle3493
@omonotahustle3493 5 лет назад
he won't pin this, *how did you get 9 ?*
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 5 лет назад
3 + 8 x 3 = 9 x 3 because 1 + 8 = 9
@harshberiwal7200
@harshberiwal7200 5 лет назад
Typical British accent
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 5 лет назад
Harsh!
@anayaggarwal6877
@anayaggarwal6877 3 года назад
Not very helpful
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 3 года назад
Do let us know if you can recommend another video
@jerrymahone335
@jerrymahone335 5 лет назад
if she has to explain this to you stop now. you will be totally lost in DES, AES, RSA, and EC maths. the discrete logarithm problem. cryptology is for mathematicians.
@MathsWithJay
@MathsWithJay 5 лет назад
@Jerry: I guess everyone has to start somewhere!
@jerrymahone335
@jerrymahone335 5 лет назад
@@MathsWithJay she did make this problem harder than it needed to be. the 26 and and mod 26 cancel out leaving you with 9 (3) = 27. 26|27 = 1.038461538, subtract 1 and multiply the difference by 26. that is congruent to 1 modulo 26. I believe her showing off was what confused you. you generally keep the problem intact to get the s and t values i.e. the Eigenvalues or Eigenvectors, or the multiplicative inverses. explain why you have have a product of 1 to have a multiplicative inverse. give some kind of proof when you making a statement. this is where you start.
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