A Colorado mother is about to stand trial for her daughter's death. Investigators believe this case may be tied to a rare form of medical child abuse known as Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy.
Yeah I definitely teared up. I’m a stickler about not making children have a bad relationship with food. I’ll admit I’m overweight but my children are not and I cannot stand even a baby saying I’m hungry. For some reason. Lol I feel I should know before They are hungry! Also, From family experience with my brother I know it’s devastating when your told your child can no longer eat by mouth and feeding tubes are put in. Sure the child is being nourished but taking away a mothers ability to feed a child, even when it’s medically necessary is devastating. Any mother to do this on her own deserves the death penalty !
@@devin7703 You make no sense. How are you going to enforce healthy eating habits and routine if YOU CANNOT? Just stop. It's food. It's always there. Grow up and knock it off. You're not in a third world country. Mcdonalds will still be here. Calm down.
I cannot believe this happened at Children's hospital. So, anyone can come in and say something is going on with their child and they'll just perform a surgery? Unbelievable.
I can believe it their staff has always been neglectful towards children my daughter almost died bc of Tc Thompson children's hospital I had to threaten to sue them all just to get my daughter help.
Same thing happened to Gypsy Rose. DeeDee just walked into multiple hospitals and told them that she had numerous conditions and diseases and they just listened to her. Only one doctor tried to fact check her and it was way too late by then, she skipped town once he started asking questions. She had them perform so many surgeries on her, including on her eyes, teeth, and inserting a feeding tube in her stomach. There was nothing wrong with Gypsy in the first place. Eminem's mom just shoved pills down his throat, telling him he was sick when he wasn't. Munchausen Syndrome is a dangerous mental issue for everyone under their care.
Medical people have worked hard and are eager to practise their skills. Unfortunately getting to the root of problems has never been the focus of western medicine, rather "fixing" the symptoms. They are being given false information! It must be very confusing but hopefully they were trying to help the child. When things are this strange however, i think they should closely observe 24/7 in a hospital/rehab setting for several weeks before deciding to do a surgury, to see if the environment at home is contributing to the situation. This is a horribly tragic story.
Been an ER/Trauma RN for 12 years and this absolutely disgust me as a medical professional. I understand Doctors being overworked and having far more patients than usual but that is no excuse for missing blatant abuse. Yes, we are being overworked but at no point does that excuse us from reporting abuse of any kind. It's true when it comes to children we put a lot of faith in the parents to be honest considering they are the ones to witness symptoms. We only see the child a few minutes compared to the parents yet I can't see these surgeries being done without medical proof. It's truly repulsive.
Exactly! Completely incompetent.. very scary to think everyone elses lives that hospital has affected by now? How can these people be called nurses and doctors?
So the mom was allowed to plead out and have the murder charge tossed out? Seriously? Plus she took over $100,000 in donations and all she got was 16 years in prison? Shameful.
Just think of people who needed the help that went to a mom who was deceitful about her child's health....some children could use wheelchair ramps etc.....
I don't know what's most horrifying: the fact that a child's mother slowly and intentionally watched her child die, or that a hospital did all those invasive surgeries without actually examining the child to see if she actually needed them or not.
Must be a military doctor🤣😂... THEY SUCK!!! When my son's Pediatrician (military) said he needed a G-tube for feeding and the doctor was willing to do it without any other testing it shocked me! I requested for them to do a gastric stomach emptying test they looked at me like I was insane. I refused to allow the (military) doctor's to treat my son until other test were done. After almost 3 months of arguing with me they did a nuclear gastric emptying test and it turned out he has gastroparesis (paralyzed stomach muscle) and he was aspirating on food that was everything less than milkshake thickness and he did need a G-tube because he was not absorbing nutrition at all. At a year old my son only weighed 11 pounds 4 ounces. Needless to say yes doctor's will do surgeries that are not necessary just to make a buck.
Didn’t you hear? The hospital used the poor child for the front face for cancer donation, hospital made 3 million dollars. No wonder you barely hear about this case probably hospital paying off to silence this case from media.
I think they have to be careful on that one, because a legal precedent could be extremely harmful. For example, I have severe panic attacks, but none of my doctors have witnessed one. They have prescribed me emergency medicine for panic attacks, because they have to trust that I'm telling the truth. Or maybe you get a stomach bug, spend the whole night throwing up, and in the morning go seek medical help because you still feel sick, but stopped vomiting. The doctors might not see you throwing up, so they trust that you're telling the truth. If they legally attack the hospital using this thought process of you can't prescribe medication until you observe the symptoms, that can lead to some future messy court cases of medical negligence.
Soooo…she died by starvation??? They drugged her up with narcotics so she wouldn’t be alert, saying “I’m hungry”. And just let her waste away, for 3 weeks!? How can a doctor sign off on that!
It's called VSED. It's supposed to be for terminal illnesses when death is expected within 6 months. Still awful but the law states if the person says "I'm hungry" "I'm thirsty" they're supposed to get it. I don't know if because she was a minor mom had to approve it anyway (probably) but that's a huge reason children shouldn't be ever put on it. I don't really like the idea for anyone, but if someone of a right mind who's an adult makes the choice it's much different than a parent doing it to a child especially a child with no terminal illness!
Umm my grandma tried to do that and the nursing home put her in the hospital and put in an IV. My aunt's who are nurses went in and made them stop doing it because my grandma was like over 80 or 90 and didn't want to be here anymore. She wasn't eating anyway or barely she was in a lot of pain and junk. This is sad for this little girl.
The hospital should take 100% of the blame? Are you kidding me right now? Yes.. I agree the hospital should be held accountable but she also had a mother that was behind ALL of this.
Yep thats exactly what it is. My daughters dad and especially her step mom was like that, they were both charged with injury to a child and now I have full custody of her. My heart breaks for this little girl.
I’m a physician. We are mandatory reporters and so are nurses. It’s unbelievable to me that the care providers didn’t report. Even if they were concerned about backlash, they could have reported anonymously.
I've lost all faith in physicians to speak up about much. Nurses love a cause so they might speak up to support a certain narrative but no, I no longer see physicians as patient advocates. Nothing personal towards you, obviously.
Cases like this are why I think Gypsy Rose Blanchard deserved a lesser sentence. Munchausen by proxy is really dangerous and sadly fatal in many cases and no one on the outside seems to be able to help before it's too late.
I hate to say it, but while I think Gypsy's actions were justified, watching the documentary "Mommy Dead and Dearest" (I think that's what it was called), it can easily be seen that she's picked up quite a bit of her mother's manipulative, "I'm meek"/blame others personality. I know she was coached on it by her mother, but she's already a masterful artist who can easily shift all blame elsewhere and, because of what she's been through, people feel sorry for her and are quickly and easily inclined to believe her/defend her and I can see her using it to her advantage, making her a potentially _very_ dangerous person. Don't get me wrong, I am not sticking up for DeeDee or saying that that child deserved any of what her sociopathic mother put her through; I'm just saying that people really need to understand that she's not as vulnerable or innocent as she looks and people would do well to not let their guards down completely when it comes to her. I see her as someone with the potential to be a very dangerous individual- though I truly hope she won't set out to harm the world in an act of revenge for not protecting her from her mother. 😳😳 I guess we'll soon see what sort of mark she's gonna make on this world because she'll be out of prison soon- 2024 iirc!
@@lcoq19 you're right. And that's a big reason why she got the sentence she did! She planned it out and got her boyfriend to do it, which proves that she knew better but wanted to still get off the hook and be the victim. Of course, she learned that behavior from her mother, and she's still a victim, but it's not right and I'm glad the court recognized that
@@kellymcdonald3964 it is very telling when she admitted she felt more free in prison than in her own home. I have zero sympathy for sufferers of munchausen byproxy. It is literally a case of "I am going to make my kid look sick so I get attention." I am going to call this what it is; CHILD ABUSE.
For people who dont believe her mother has MBP, you realize how she was investigated right? After Olivia’s death, she startes taking another daughter to the hospital with similar issues in 2018. Doctors found them to be false! And once her kids were removed from her care, there were no more mysterious ailments. Weird! Right?
Not weird .....just proves her so called mother is a Killer of her child!! Along with all the doctors, especially the one who signed off on Olivias dnr.
THANK YOU. Let’s say you believed that the next daughter magically became sick when the sister died- explain how she was fine once the mother was removed from the equation? I’m not done with this video yet but I know the case already. Do they not explain about the second daughter in the video or are people just commenting without watching at all and without knowing the case????
And to think this “mother” was getting ready to start the same thing with a second daughter. As if torturing and murdering one child wasn’t enough for her, if she hadn’t been stopped when she was, she might have spent the next few years torturing and murdering her other daughter. Did she actually think she’d get away with that as well? How horrific. I feel so sorry for Olivia’s grandfather, loving that little angel and watching her die, then learning the truth.
It's deeper then murder. Mounchausen is a mental disease. These Mothers are bored, lacking something in their lives. They research diseases, ailments on line, and then seek attention from Doctors, through their kids. Telling the Doctors their child is suffering the effects of their online research. Most of these people, when they were younger, learned they got attention when they were sick. So, as they grew older, they used their kids to get this attention from Medical staff. It makes these sick parents feel smart, educated, that they can research, and know more then the Doctors. Most of these people do not have a Family Doctor. And if a doctor won't agree with them, they move to another doctor. So then go undetected. Alot of these parents will use their childs sickness to get money, from different organizations, grants, fund raisers, etc.. Also Most of these sick parents, believe their own lies. That's why Mounchausen is a real mental attention seeking sickness.
They are addicted to the attention and sympathy they receive and can not will not stop , eventually their victim will succumb but that will not end the illness of their predator .
I never knew my mom did this to me until I saw a documentary on Gypsy when I was 18… shortly after my mother disappeared and abandoned me. The best thing she ever did. I’m thankful everyday that I don’t have worse medical issues from this, but I truly went 18 years thinking I had so many disabilities. The stress that was put on my body by faux illnesses…. Caused lifelong damage to my body. But nothing as severe as I thought I had for 2/3 of my life. Munchaussens by proxy is UNBELIEVABLY hard to report and save kids forms it’s the RAREST AND DEADLIEST form of child abuse. After I found out, tons of my family realized certain things she did were part of me being the proxy. These people loved and cared for me, but still had no clue. It is NOT easy to figure out. Trust me. Tons of people can be around but the manipulation the abusers can create are beyond terrifying. People do not question mothers.
I hope that your family has reached out to proper authorities because if she disappeared lord only knows where, what or who she is torturing now. But I'm so sorry you endured that from your own mother, like wow, stay strong and continue to get healthy and definitely stay courageous and share your story with others ❣️
My sister in law was a victim of her mother's munchausen by proxy. She was placed by her mother on menopausal hormones (HRT) and told she would never have children. She underwent several unecessary surgeries and wasn't even properly home schooled so has no official education papers. Today she is married with two children but is socially inept and unable to find lucrative work.
@n00b Basically, yeah. It's the Karen crowd. Basically they make their whole identity around being a type of "mom" and join mom groups that do the same to look motherly. They don't question eachother because they feel like they can do no wrong since they are the "stereotypical classic stay at home mom group."
@@lisadilo9615No wonder this cases isn’t getting enough attention because corruption played part in this. Every time corruption is involved, the case is less heard of.
After the absolutely horrific abuse case of Gypsy Rose, doctors need to pay closer attention to parents that do this kind of thing. This is so tragic 😭
I feel really sorry for the step Grandfather. He blames himself so much and it wasn't his fault at all. I hope he is able to find peace one day, because he is a good person.
Right? My 31 year old daughter had recently finished Zpak for upper respiratory infection yet was still feeling unwell. I called or texted her every day until she was feeling better which was yesterday. I hate when my babies are sick. Anyway, it is an attention thing and it's sick! My antenna's go up if someone on facebook is posting frequently "pray for my son/daughter, he/she is sick/hurt, going to the hospital....." or whatever. Doctor's need to pay attention.
Sick bitches who love all the attention and donations they get when a child is sick. When a child is well they can't stand looking at themselves in the mirror so they have to get more attention. This "hospital" settled this case b4 a lawsuit was even filed. That tells u they knew they where complicit.
As a childhood cancer survivor,this is just heartbreaking to see. I was drugged out of my mind and could barely walk for 3 years. I can't believe a poor baby going through all of this for nothing. She was perfectly fine and deserved to live a pain free life!
I used to work for Children's Colorado. The problem that was addressed in this video and that I believe was a contributing factor in Olivia's death, is the policy that child welfare concerns be brought to supervisors and the ethics committee and then they decide whether or not to do anything. That is NOT the law in Colorado. All mandatory reporters are required to call CPS with their concerns; talking to your supervisor and the ethics committee is not enough.
Exactly the hospital BROKE the LAW! And as a nurse I'm damn sure if someone who worked there went directly to the real authorities they would have been fired. Same thing should apply to schools; the real law authorities should be contacted not the internal committee.
It is so shocking that the committee voted they should NOT do anything. I don't even understand how they came to this conclusion. I hope that the individuals who sat on this ethics committee were let go.
@@robynneRN the sixth sense and the ordeal of Gypsy Rose brought a ton of attention to MBP cases - well before this child passed away but particularly within the past couple decades. I completely understand such rare circumstances being overlooked when it’s simply a rare situation but this was one people were aware of from pop media
This mother stripped her daughter of living a long, healthy life and she gets 16 years in jail. Those doctors need to at least have their licenses revoked. This is Unbelievable.
And THIS right here is why I really don't blame Gypsy Rose for what she did. THIS would have been her had she never found out about herself and her mother succeeded like this girl's mother did. She would've died and her story never would've got out!
Kepra??? My son was diagnosed with Epilepsy years ago but there was a team of doctors and nurses and they all witnessed him having seizures. The need for Kepra is not a decision to be taken lightly. Unbelievable
This is like the Gypsy Rose Blanchard case. Her mother and medical professionals medically abused her. Gypsy had her mother murdered to escape the torture her mother put her through. Not that it's justified for her to do that to her mom but her mom and the medical professionals didn't have the right to torture Gypsy. I feel so sorry for Olivia. These people are evil. RIP Olivia.
If Gypsy hadn't of killed her mother, her mother would have killed her. If Gypsy had gone to the police or medical professionals her mother would have just gotten her competence legally stripped.
@@staceyogier6154 I agree completely. If she hadn't killed her mom she would have killed Gypsy. Her mother supposedly killed her own mother and poisoned her stepmother. With the feeding tube in her stomach her mom could have done anything she wants. I don't feel sorry for her mom she was evil.
@@jannalam6861 I completely agree. She shouldn't have been punished as harshly as she was. They could have given her a light sentence. But yes it was justified.
Everyone in Olivia’s life failed her and she was tortured for years and ultimately starved to death! This story is so beyond heartbreaking and gut wrenching. My thoughts and prayers are with her Grandpa and those that actually loved and cared for Olivia. Rest in peace sweet, little angel. 💗
Why would the Doctor's take the mother's word for her diagnosis. She's not a the doctor and should have been reported for false information about the child. How dare they(doctors).!. Actually they are more at fault than the crazy mother. She should be locked up.
That poor grandpa… you can tell how much he really loved that little girl. My heart feels so heavy for him.. I wish I could tell him how sorry I am for his loss. I never had a grandpa, but I always dreamed if I did, it would be a sweet man like him.
This is extremely upsetting. My son suffered greatly with a disorder called colonic dystmotity. It was horrible. I was suspected of being a Munchausen mom. I was grilled by a smug pediatrician because I have PTSD. The short of this is my son was diagnosed and with proper treatment and diet he was freed from this terrible disease. My then husband announced that it was common in his family among boys! He let us suffer for some perverse reason. Never will I forget the lack of support from so many doctors and my erstwhile husband. Never.
I can't even find words for what was done to this poor baby. Using a child for profit should get the death penalty for all involved. This is just disgusting.
It is so disgusting, I feel like crying. Could you believe this hospital billed over 3 million dollars for the accumulation of unnecessary treatments and procedures of this child?
Having a bat princess party shows that Olivia was a one of a kind, quirky and imaginative child. Prison is too merciful. When it comes to such unforgivable crimes I sometimes wish the punishment could be more along the lines of an eye for an eye. It would prevent a lot of these crimes from happening.
@@lizbrown7232 Yes, technically that’s true, even twins have differences. But sadly a good majority of children, and adults for that matter, aren’t very original or imaginative. They’re followers, happy to just go along with the crowd, copying popular trends. Though some of them are just too insecure to voice or act on their different preferences, beliefs or ideas for fear of ridicule and rejection. And some purposefully don’t want to stand out, preferring to blend in. But a lot of the time the fault lies with the parents. They stifle their child’s individuality and imagination before it has a chance to truly blossom and form into something original or different from what they deem acceptable, believing that it’s their duty and right to tell their child what they should like and dislike, what they’re allowed to do or not do. Even what they’re allowed to think. Punishing them if they dare to veer off course, even a little. So though no two children are exactly alike, many are so close that their differences are negligible. That’s why it’s so obvious and when someone truly stands out from the crowd. I know it sounds harsh, but it’s rare to see a child that’s truly unique. But lately that does seem to be changing because more and more often parents are being taught that’s it’s healthier if there aren’t any limitations placed on these things as long as it’s safe.
@@truthspeaker8863 That was my point. About the different outside influences that stifle that individuality. And that sometimes it’s those things that cause children to choose to stifle it themselves, or just not show it to the world. And I think you’re exactly right about the age range when it starts to become obvious. But luckily nowadays parents are encouraging that independent thinking so hopefully someday it’ll become a thing of the past. It’s important that it does because followers tend to encourage the most dangerous minds in our communities to lead them like the sheep and lemmings they behave like. And it’s also just sad to see a child’s potential stifled by ignorance.
@@redreaper2752 my point is this child was in that age range when she had the party making her no different than most other other children in the word (imagination wise).
How do surgeons at the same hospital do 25 unnecessary surgeries? No matter what the Mom is insisting is happening, where were the tests to rule it out?
The hospital is half to blame they they did the procedures and they should have known whether she needed them are not above all else they just wanted insurance money
This is not negligence on the hospitals part, it was downright murder. I am disgusted that a plea deal or settlement was excepted. There needs to be more accountability.
Why did they not refer her to a neurologist to make sure that she was having "seizures"? This is sickening. The medical community will do anything to bill insurance. That is the bottom line. What is a human life worth?
My cousin did this to her two boys thank god finally a doctor came forward. Of course I looked like a monster raising any questions prior to her being caught. we need to do better! people are able to medically abuse their kids too easily. After the Gypsy situation you’d think people would get wiser.
Wow. I have a daughter who was actually very sick and went to emergency often until she was 5. I remember telling a doctor I would not sign for a certain procedure because I didn't believe it was necessary. He was angry and argued with me but I did not want my baby going through painful procedures that would not solve the problem or make it better. It was purely for diagnostics. I cannot imagine asking for the things she went through, and watching her suffer unnecessarily. Mothers like this make me feel sick. I'm so sorry for the grandparents. I wish this crime could recieve the death penalty. Not slowly, she should endure every procedure she had set her baby up for.
My son developed encephalitis with his 2 month vaccines. He's 5 now and finally starting to get past the harm done. He has not and will not be getting anything else. It took him 10 months to recover neurologically. It took him 3 weeks to recover from pertussis at 2. They get mad at me but to me, it would be very much munchausen byproxy to knowingly put him through that again. People just assume I'm a crazy antivaxxer but I prayed, with my child screaming like a dying rabbit, that if God would just let him be ok I'd never do it again. And I never will.
Poor Olivias mother is evil for what she put her daughter through....What is worse are health professionals going on a mother's say so not doing the proper tests to actually diagnose conditions....Many of the health professionals should also be charged!!!!
I had a student a few years ago, that was always injured with weirdly explained injuries. Th child was the one doing the explaining, when I would ask her about them. But the mom was the one that I was very suspicious of. Mom would always want her daughter tested for a learning disability. I had this students for 2 years in a row. The first year, the mother kept reporting that her daughter was "very hyper", "couldn't look people in the eyes, when speaking/or spoken to", was "throwing fits every time she was asked to complete a task", "violent with her sibling", etc. I didn't observe any of these behaviors in my classroom. In fact, quite the opposite. The students was participating in all conversations, including with me. She was using large vocabulary, and she was very smart. She loved to learn new things and expressing her ideas. She made friends and kept them. She participated in group settings and completed all of her tasks. The mom ended up getting her tested by an outside diagnostician, instead of going through the school's process, because I would not fill out the paperwork to get the testing done. She was angry with me, yet she wanted her in my class the following year. So, I had this kid again. This time, the mother showed up with diagnostician papers indicating that there was no disability present. But she wanted us to go through the process again. So I informed my principal of my concerns, and by this time, I suggested Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy. The principal told me to document all that I witnessed in class, just to cover my own butt. So I did. I filled out the paperwork, and explained that I did not see any of these issues in the classroom. Somehow, the daughter got a diagnosis of ADHD. I asked the diagnostician if she witnessed these behaviors herself, only to be told that all behaviors were reported by mom, and she had not witnessed any of the behaviors while in the child's presence. This infuriated me, and the paperwork went through anyway! Oh, and mom stated that this child was to now be called "he", rather than "she", and wanted a name change in the middle of the school year. I don't even think this young girl knew what transgender was. It was gross! It was also sooooo hard to proove my suspicions, because mom portrayed herself as the loving mother who was doing everything she could for her young children.
Sounds eerily familiar. May I ask where or what state this school is located? I have an estranged sister who is mentally unstable & has young kids. She has tried diagnosing them with sleep apnea, adhd, depression, etc since they were infants.
Are you aware it’s common for autistic children to mask ? Especially girls and minorities.. Behavioral issues at home are common because it’s their safe place. Now that we have autistic adults getting proper diagnosis that the schools missed , it’s time they educated the people doing the testing beyond the stereotypes. There are autistic lawyers, nurses, teachers , moms, dads, who have meltdowns at home , or even in public, but their job may never see this. Being social and eye contact doesn’t mean someone isn’t autistic. It’s usually masking. But autistic people can be social and make eye contact. The testing process needs to change .
@@tastyrecipesonabudget1689 what are you even talking about though? No one said anything about autism.. she said ADHD- attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, which is completely different than autism and has nothing to do with it.
Hospitalizations are so traumatic for young children, I don’t understand how a mother could willingly subject her child to this knowing she wasn’t sick at all. Rest easy sweet angel 😞💔
Thats the nature of Munchausen by Poxy. To use someone vulnerable amd close to them (generally dependant on the abuser too) for narcissistic supply. This child was her mothers attention and sympathy goat, and slaughtered like one. Her mother has no capacity for empathy, she feels no remorse. This child was a means to an end. Shit scary condition as it lives so very deep within the shaddows of a seemingly worried and vigilant parent. Insidious as it gets.
Sometimes it's as simple as trying to get close to a doctor they have a crush on and it gets out of hand. On the other hand, I've also heard of a battered wife that used her child to get reprieve from her own abuse. That I can sorta kinda sympathise with, but making your child sick is not the solution.
That little girls grandfather has no blame in this situation . I think that him blaming himself will do nothing to help himself or anyone. I'm so so sorry this little girl and family has had to go through this . Lots of love xx
I feel for the grandfather, I hope he gets to care for her in the afterlife. I know nothing can help him get the guilt off of him but he was the only one who actually loved her
A parents worse nightmare is to send their child to the hospital. Red flags with sending her child to the hospital so many times with severe surgeries.
@@breebear1941 Google Kelly turner, it should come up with several articles. (I would send a link, however RU-vid often flags and blocks comments with outside links in them)
Thanks for that info. And you're right. That is absolutely insane. She should have gotten life. I feel when a life has been taken then they should be sentenced to nothing less. Poor Olivia doesn't get to come back after 16 years, neither should she. Disgusting.
That is insane. She was complicit in the slow death of her child and ripping off insurance companys, etc. I say she should a hard fifty years. Ironically, she is a big fat hog, yet she starved that baby to death.
My mother died from starvation due to her TPN port being infected. She had the option of sepsis or starvation and she chose starvation. It was absolutely horrifying to witness. She had many GI issues, and the situation leading up to her death was not the same as this precious child’s. But it was horrifying nonetheless and the fact that this sweet girl endured the same thing makes me sick
Excuse me? This is inexcusable. If the port was infected they could easily have removed it and placed a new sterile port to deliver sustenance. There’s no rationale in this situation to have to choose between sepsis or starvation. That’s not realistic.
@@thesoundofsiren1744 they did replace the port, and the new one became infected as well. She had fissures throughout her bowels and infection was circulating throughout her body that couldn’t be controlled with any amount of antibiotics. Sepsis was unfortunately inevitable.
when u don't have a choice, why do we have a choice as pet owners? if i get that kind of news, i want to option to not put family or myself through that and end it quietly with dignity.
As someone with hypochondria, I have had doctors diagnose me with medical conditions just because I was freaked out by thinking I had it. Now that my brain is more rational, I see that I do not have these conditions. I just was panicked and they diagnosed me without following any diagnostic criteria. (I have read all the diagnostic criteria as I am also a healthcare practitioner myself). This is so very irresponsible of healthcare providers with medical degrees! Why did they go through so much schooling if it is so easy to succumb to confirmation bias?
Listening to her grandpa say she looked at him and told him she was hungry and wasn’t allowed to give her food breaks my heart. How could anyone do this to their own child?! As a mother and a registered nurse, this is absolutely heartbreaking and infuriating. I’m infuriated with the medical professionals enabling this woman’s behavior and enabling a murderer.
That is sickening, the mom should endure what she did to her child and also the hospital staff should be fired and prosecuted too? Be afraid to take your children there?
This is great reporting. Thank you for such an in depth analysis about a beautiful child, her sister who was saved, the doctors who were complicit in this conspiracy, and the monster "mother" who craved attention and money so badly that she tortured her own offspring. There are no words.
I agree. I’m so furious about this case. Bottom line: this was greed. Period. The hospital was enjoying the money it made off this kid. One more reason why for profit health care is a corrupt and disgusting problem.
Her poor grandfather … that made me tear up when he was saying she told him she was hungry. And how she thought of him… I can’t even imagine. That poor little baby girl. So terrible.
Unfortunately, doctors and hospitals are terrified of being sued, which makes them much less likely to report abuse like this (not in cases of physical or sexual abuse that has clear physical signs). Abuse via unnecessary medical procedures due to a mental illness by a parent, is much harder to prove. None of that makes this okay; hospitals need better policies to address this kind of abuse.
No. 25 surgeries at that age for a non existent condition is beyond negligent. No excuse period We are more than aware of this condition, we are more than aware of the signs, and there is NEVER a reason to pursue surgeries without having a reason for the surgeries. Never. They got paid for each of those surgeries. So please. Can we not use our two sense to excuse this disgusting neglect and negligence ?
@@taniele84 exactly. Nobody operates because the “mom said the child feels this or that”. NOBODY. Hospitals are also NOT held liable if they report to cps. They’re not law enforcement. The hospitals are MANDATORY reporters. They HAVE to report what they think may be abuse.
This is beyond horribly sad! Why are Drs just doing these things to children!!! It's disgusting!!! Poor little girl!!!! There is no words for how sad and it could have easily been prevented!!
Horrifying. I can't imagine living with what the grandpa lives with. HOW can a hospital continue to give unneeded surgeries and drugs to a healthy child? HOW can they help kill a healthy child? HOW did this ever happen?
My daughter literally almost died because of under treatment and it is cases like this that make it harder to gett help for people who actually need it. I hope they give that mother the death penalty. And the doctor who did the dnr should get murder charges as well!
It's such a challenging issue because for every story like this there's the mother who pushed and was right about medical problems, saving their child. :(
That’s what I keep thinking. No one knows your child like you do. My son wouldn’t have been diagnosed if I hadn’t pushed and seen multiple doctors. I knew it wasn’t right, I have other kids. I am part of chronic illness groups and it’s a common story. I’ve never seen a case like this but I’ve seen so many families relief when they finally get a doctor who knows what’s going on and helps stop symptoms after being dismissed
my mother was accused of Munchhausen‘s by proxy because she was trying to find what was causing my mystery symptoms. it took 5 years until i was 18 and could go to appointments alone that i got a diagnosis and it left me untreated for that time. parents cant be seen as health advocates because of this now.
I've screamed internally over this. I pray God has mercy on the souls of these children and justice for the evil that so tortured them. This poor, poor sweet little girl. My heart is broken.
I hope that grandfather finds peace. You can see the genuine regret and pain in his eyes every time he speaks. My heart breaks for this little girl and her family (minus her "mother" of course).
Where the hell was the father?! He has Olivias sisters now. Why wasn’t he there questioning everything on behalf of his daughter?! Olivia has a huge family. Where were they then? Now, they’re speaking and demanding answers. Too little, too late. Oh right. Money.
While you have a point, kinda… why are trying to blame the father? This mother could have told him she was sick. Gypsy rose‘s father thought she was. Normally people don’t lie about things like this. Maybe you should point the finger at the real culprits. This horrible mother! And the doctors, since they should have verified these conditions. They had a responsibility to diagnose and help this child.
Actually it sounds like the grandparents have the sister, unless I missed something. It sounds like the mom was very convincing and determined to prove that Olivia was sick.
@@AJ_1namillion i agree, I think the if the family see a child that looks sick in hospital their first thought isn’t ever going to be she’s not ill, you believe the mother, you’d believe the doctor’s diagnosis, the only thing that matters is supporting her mother and the little one getting better, that grandfather obviously adores that little girl and if he for one minute had suspected something he would have shouted the loudest I’m sure. X
The sad thing is is that hospitals regularly accuse innocent parents of chronically ill children of this when they aren't doing anything wrong - many sick kids are taken from loving homes every year.
This is super insane to me. I'm a grown ass adult and had to have an ultrasound to check that I wasn't wrong about having gallstones before they would remove my gallbladder. How the eff did they not check this girl before they just gave her surgery..
If one just one of the members of staff offered that child a chicken nugget they could see she was eating fine, that child had constipation, that’s all constipation and the mother (and I use that term loosely) loved the attention she got from a sick child needing surgery, why didn’t they believe the doctor and nurses that openly opposed this evil woman’s plans, they in plain sight murdered this sweet little girl and my heart breaks because of how much she was loved by her grandparents, at least they are keeping her sister safe and well cared for x
it's unbelievable. If the child was constipated they should have simply put her on a normal, healthy diet and extra juice,etc- who knows what this murderer was feeding this baby l,on purpose,to cause her to be constipated so she could start this sick process of slowly torturing and killing her child. The doctors and nurses need to be locked up too.If this is what we can expect from medical professionals,why bother having doctors at all? apparently we can't trust them at all.
@@pattiannepascual I agree that child was under the hospital care, I’ve got a gastric tube because of radiation treatment for cancer, the doctors have done extensive tests and scans to find the problem, this child starved to death, it didn’t happen overnight this woman lied over and over again, she could have swallowed drinks while tests were being carried out, until they had a diagnosis not just the word of one woman.
@@joanbaczek2575 yes I lost 3 stone and I needed 4 blood transfusions before the decision was made, I can’t swallow food or liquids, you know how it impacts your life, my throat was damaged by the radiation treatment, I cannot understand how they could do this to a child, it’s a last resort to keep you alive, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, do your doctors think you will ever be able to swallow again, i hope you are doing ok 🥰
I'm trying to figure out what the doctors actually saw in Olivia's body and then set about to treat or correct. If nothing was apparent, how could they proceed with anything other than imaging and tests?
I don’t fully understand it either. I think it must have to do with the Munchausens parent threatening to sue or whatever if they don’t do the procedures. And billing for the procedures is a big motivator. But yeah i don’t fully get it, it’s monstrous.
Unfortunately I think it might be a case of greedy doctors. I can't think of another logical reason. These surgeries probably cost a lot of money that's money in their pockets Pretty sad that money comes before Morals
I feel like there might be some bits of the story missing where the mother literally caused the issues that needed this kind of treatment. Caused the tests to turn up the same way they would if the girl was that ill?
“Poppa, I’m hungry” 💔 I’m so sorry for this grandfather who is obviously haunted by those words. That crazy woman starved and tortured her child for 5 years while she sat on her fat ass, obviously munching away on anything she could get her hands on. And the staff failed this child as well 👎
Seeing the grandpa break down saying he feels haunted every single night makes me so fucking angry. Like how could her mom do all this? The hospital is at fault too. I feel for this girls family (besides that shit stain of a mom)
Imagine when he realized she wasn’t sick but was intentionally denied food and water. She laid there dying of starvation. That is so disturbing and cruel and will haunt him
Um how did they go from getting a little stool out, to fully removing her intestines and putting in a bag on her side, and then feeding tubes, to literally starving her for no reason???? Like WHAT?! HELL YEAH the hospital is to blame too!