Murdaugh Murder Trial: Crime scene analyst discusses two shooter theory 

And why so much money to hear him!?!?

Not true. I know Tim, was his roomie in college. He’s been in forensics since 1979, got his degree in forensics, was the head of the CT. Crime lab, etc. and has been expanding his knowledge and expertise in this his chosen specialty for decades.

Wish we knew what Prosecutor keeps getting away with not allowing defense put stuff in for defense like the cops walking driving all over crime scene . Like Maggie data I think prosecutor lying about not getting Paul data for a year Alex was willing to give pass words to Maggie ,Paul phone . Why would cops investigator tell Alex brother the found Maggie phone on high way that they didn't need it they waiting on data . Then after Alex brother call officer again told him where he found it . Then all sudden the cops wanted phone . But then tell defense their was data saved which was lie it saving before show when she arrive to the house dog kettle . I think Alex telling truth I don't think he ever had Maggie phone I think Maggie data proved that . I think all of it needs be investigated . With cops making sure everything that help Alex was destroy by cops

Even though Paul killed a girl?

None of us know when we wake up in the morning if this is our last day.

Neither did Mallory

Yes sir

​Their you go a lot people hated this family exsp over the girl dying in boat wreck . Their is plenty evidence that prove reasonable doubt . People need to remember prosecutor are lawyer to / lies just like Alex . That take favor all the time in best interest of themself at expense poor people . Prosecutor own paid witness couldn't even match family gun with any of the murder bullets . No one think is not f up that it was high profile case as this was that whole police department walk drove over evidence that coul d of prove Alex innocent or guilt . Tell me they already had it rig from get go that it was Alex never look no where else . Even throw thief was tire tracks .finger prints .DNA . Foot print that was Alex . And supposedly couldn't get data of Maggie phone but go lie to juror accusing Alex throwing it out even through evidence of it . Cops didn't want Maggie phone when Alex brother found it

I honestly believe Buster knew what was going to happen. Part of me really believes Buster was in on this. It's sad :(

It was after Jeanne Seckinger Talked To Him & he got the call about his dad being terminal.

I don't think Buster knew anything I don't think Alex even did this .stealing ,lier don't make him killer . The guy had 45 pending criminal charges on him . I sure he didn't want to say he their Bec he put him at the scene . But fact is I think if he admitted being their I think he would of found him not guilty Bec fact is prosecutor didn't prove murder . They prove he stole lies just like all lawyers do including prosecutor . This guy explain better than the prosecutor did .

@@chriscypret5365 At the time of the murders he had NO criminal charges. It was around Labor Day when the partners finally figured out what he’d done and fired him.

Sound like Paul was the one help more on farm then buster . Paul more of outside kid .Buster didn't like doing it . I say that why Paul ask to help everyone focus on Alex ..why isn't no one ever focus on Rogon Paul so called friend that pointed everything Alex like he set him up Rogon brings dog over Sunday night ,Monday night they killed . Rogon supposedly didn't no if he's dog tail mess up when he drop it off really ..Paul taking to Rogon when phone died . But Rogon tells cops he so worry about Paul calling over over up until 9:59 Then Alex gets homes finds them shortly after notice they still wasn't back or answer phone still run down check on them . After gets off with 911 he called Rogon Bec he's closes to he's house ,brothers .Why didn't Rogon answer Alex he could found out Paul wasn't ok . Then don't return he's calls any other time he answer Alex . Then when he talks to Alex for 4 min ask if he down at Kettle ..Then went straight to cops said Alex down their .Alex told 911 he last seen them in Person

Like I said all lawyer lier steals

That's your opinion. This testimony is based on science and facts, not fiction.

They were not. Unlike some of the morone believing this guy.

This is definitely not garbage. These people are professionals and charge for their years of knowledge. It's called reasonable doubt.

@@MsTHORNANATOR The only 'doubt' this creates is to the direction of the second shot.

That woman looks terrible. That Iggy Pop hairdo doesn't look good on anyone.

The point is that the shooter may have been injured during the shooting and the possibility of 2 people doing the act. Very pertinent.

There was no biological material found in the house or golf cart, Suburban, etc.

It’s been two years since the murders happen. People tend to move on

@@giama7618 Yes you definitely learn to not cry all the time when discussing the details as time goes on. Plus he may have been deesensitized since he's probably had to talk about the murders so many times.

@@TheVAULTofHORROR Yet Alex manages to cry on cue *every single time!!!!*

Exactly what I was thinking. I think that state knows they lost so they just found her somewhere and let you speak.

I think his response about his opinion is only based on what was sent to him was good

@@traciemcdaniel3660 Exactly. That’s the problem with a lot of the prosecutions data especially cell phone. The defense should have done their own requests from the phone company instead of relying on what the prosecution had.

Maybe helpful to the direction of the shot---- but of no help in the defense of the accused.

@@tsmith3286 what do you think of the verdict?

Alex and Buster, Alex taking blame

No that's not how that works. He is paid to interpret the evidence in the favor of Alex, yes, but it must be based on actual evidence. You can't make anything up can't just tell him to say whatever. Interpreting evidence is subjective but we tend to believe most medical professionals. Sometimes they're wrong though. That's why they always say get a second opinion. People can interpret differently if the evidence is there.

THESE WITNESSES ARE PROFESSIONALS, THEY DON'T SAY WHAT THE LAWYERS WANT THEM TO SAY. THEY WOULD JUST NOT ACCEPT THE CASE.

​@@MsTHORNANATOR but they choose witnesses that will agree with what they want them to say.

Actually, most expert witnesses are usually paid for their time. And yes, they are encouraged to read the evidence in a way to benefit the side they are being employed by. They can't CHANGE the evidence, but their interpretation can be "bent". It's up to the jury to look at the actual evidence provided and make their own judgement...not just based on their emotions.

You people are such scholars on here !!! Not !!!

Insane. I know that the defense has to try everything , but my goodness.

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Doubt it

​@@wynkenblynkennod3712 do tell why?

​@@wynkenblynkennod3712 sorry but I think it's possible. Please explain why not.

Yeah looks like Alex is Rambo 🤣🤣🤣

Because these guns are very long and heavy, if the two murders happened fairly quickly, then one shooter wouldn't be able drop one gun and orient themselves to shoot Maggie. The blow back of the shotgun literally blowing Paul's brain out of his skull would be intense. Blood, brain and skull matter would blowback on the shooter if the barrel was as close to Paul as they determined through the blood pattern stipple.

No its not, he had one in front of him and one over his back with a sling

Not hard at all. I grew up with guns, and my family are avid hunters & fisherman. It is not hard at all. I can shoot with two guns, however they're hand guns.

You are right .That’s what I thought they had to be shot at the same time or one of them would have had a chance to run.Two shooters and they took the guns with them .I believe Alec is innocent!

I agree, neither are running or shot in the back which would indicate them running. It seems impossible to me that it is just Alex. I think he did lie, steal but I don’t think he killed his family.

@@rhondadidomenico5052 bahahahahaha

Go girl

Thank you!!

Right. No one talks about where exactly Maggie could have been when Paul was shot. Maybe she was out of sight in the main hangar when her husband blew her son’s brains out. He then goes and puts the shotgun down. She comes out of the hangar and circles around the corner to see what the heck is going on. Alex sees her, grabs the rifle and blasts her. People assume this went down in less than 20 seconds. It could have taken 60 or 90 seconds.

Very good point! I never thought of him wearing anything to cover his face. Maybe Paul and Maggie thought he was playing around at first.

Danka. When he said he was hot and need AC I knew he was over dressed. And he forgot to tell us about the shower he had before he went to moms. Not a nap

​@@meowmeow-xp2pw excellent! I agree

AM and Paul had guns with them driving around the property. AM lied about that too. Because he knows there are no witness to this. Wild hogs around day or night I’d carry a gun.

@@SKJ1616 But not so difficult to avoid getting on you in the first place!!!!

I wonder how many bullets from head shots are found back in the direction of the shooter. The defense bought an expert that’s sole purpose was to cast doubt. Paul was facing 3/4 towards the shooter with his left side farther from the gun. He got an oblique chest shot that spun him around about 100 degrees. He slouched forward slightly in pain and the second shot scooted a furrow in his shoulder and crashed into the back of his skull sending everything everywhere in a chunky cloud of flesh and pellets. The shooter went and put the gun down and Maggie came out of the hangar/workshop and rounded the corner to see what the heck happened. Alex grabbed the rifle and confronted her blasting away. He grabbed the guns and Maggie’s phone and put them in his suv. He went back to the house and showered. He bagged his bloody clothes and drove to Almeda to see his father. Just outside the main entrance to the property he pitched Maggie’s phone. His bloody clothes that were seen in the tik tok video were put in a dumpster or the woods and swamps in the 5 miles to his parents house. No one has found the clothes he wore earlier that day. Allegedly.

Thats diferent. Jfk head goes back and blood goes front. He is not lying in thefloor. The fllor stops his natural motion.

In all fairness there really wasn't much of a rebuttal. I think her team threw her under the bus.

Hi Brenda apparently in the first interview with Alex that asked that but Alex said not near the house 🙄

I agree. How about if someone caught on to what he was doing and was black mailing him and then found out that AM was gonna come clean. Maybe that is where the majority of the money was going to. And Am was finally gonna let it all out, and they showed up to convince him that he better keep his mouth shut. He could have been there, but I don't think he did it. I think he may have witnessed it though. Just a thought.

@@leejohnson7293 no way

you clearly haven’t watched if you think he didn’t do it

Prayers for all involved. That would be Alex. He’s gonna need them where he’s going. I thought Bobble Head put the worse acting job ever.

After seeing Henry Lee on Anthony case I’d stop using his name for credibility.

Review all the facts and create a new story. How can you listen to a paid story teller. This is obviously rewritten history.

I think Alex killed them, washed off with the hose, took the golf cart to through away Maggie’s phone then went to see ma

Dogs would have been barking, alert Maggie, & Paul, there were others there. If there were shooters, why then did AM lie, shower & change clothes etc

Agree

He knew Maggie's password, so everything was deleted. Then tossed out the window. Speeding up after tossing it. Too bad (sarcasm) he didn't think that deleted calls or texts can be retrieved. He picked up "paw paws" phone to delete information too, but couldn't figure out the password.

Care to elaborate about Nasty Boys @idclare3453? I am wondering if we're thinking the same thing...

He would have been too greedy to pay anyone. He would have done it himself. He was about to lose his bar license for all his crime. Which means those big checks was about too stop. Most of the estate was in Maggie’s name. She would of probably also would have left him once finding this out. She already was living in anymore house away from him. Then on top of this crumbling down on him. His son fucked up and caused the boating accident/lawsuit that was gonna cost him millions on top of everything. Killing Maggie would have saved him from the embarrassment of her knowing the crimes he did/public embarrassment of a divorce and taking whatever he had left over from the estate. Mostly everything was in her name.Killing Paul would also kill the boat case lawsuit saving him millions from the beach family. In the end he needed all that stuff to continue his lifestyle/name/drug habit. While also everyone feeling sorry for him being a victim.

@@JustSpeakingFacts_ I’m not too sure Maggie didn’t know what he was doing , at least on some level.

Lol, I know, right?

I think she did a solid job 👌

Why be hateful about it? Why not just say "that woman attorney" because she's obviously an adult. Are you jealous? I agree she wasn't as good as Creighton but I'm not going to insult her.

@@VictoriaMarch13 🙄

@@VictoriaMarch13 🙄 .. as you run you’re mouth without knowing my experience in the last 30 years ..

What a waste of $$$ on this guy!

I haven't really followed this case. It seems most of us are not sure and we now have expert analysis indicating two shooters then I don't think the jury is fully capable of deciding guilt. The two-killer theory should be rebutted by the prosecutors and in their closing argument and speculation that the shooter or shooters "would have been literally covered in all that material” should be rebutted and they need to show how Murdock could have avoided being covered with material and how he could clean up enough to pass casual police inspection of his body and damage done to him.

I thought it was helpful

That's because you are not in the field or are not a professional in the field of forensics

He just cast a massive shadow.

@@tsmith3286 Still BS only massive to the feeble minded.

Not much

That’s a very good point .Where is all that money?Good thinking.

Hi, can you tell me what are they trying to prove here please with the gun situation and where and how the bullets went into the body? thank you

HAHAHA, DUDE, GET REAL! TIMOTHY PANBACH HAS NO CERTIFICATIONS AND NO DOCTORATE DEGREE. HE IS JUST A FOOL.

@@Ultorvindex Just A fool? Thats an idiotic statement. So immediately your credibility is in question. He has a lot of REAL world experience. What is your bias? Because you want to believe in Murdaughs guilt, you toss out any measure of common sense? It's obvious Alex is a scumbag that should spend the rest of his life in prison, but I don't let that get in the way. There is reasonable doubt, and that's all he needs in the eyes of the law. It's amazing how much you people don't know about the legal system.

That's because you are not a forensic specialist or have the training to understand these facts.

@@MsTHORNANATOR and I’m guessing you are?

It's called reasonable doubt.

@@MsTHORNANATOR Of what????

What the heck are you on about!? Be truthful and just admit this man did a fantastic job. He’s so good he’s cast doubt on the States case. You cannot make stuff like that up. He was working of the States report. Pple like you make me sick because there’s no honesty, you just want your biase to win. Can’t take you seriously!!

no

Yes i think pauls pointed to suicide..in the body cam footage it's mentioned several times.

Nope 👎

So after shooting himself two times and his brain on the ceiling, he is running around and hiding two guns - LOL

That’s quite a feat shooting yourself twice with a shotgun. It takes a man’s man to do that and the only person in history I know that did that was Earnest Hemingway.

She was hiring a forensic accountant to look into their finances after bouncing a cheque on an account that should have been flush

​@@Tinkerbug and Maggie also knew alex was unfaithful.