Muscle Cars Banned from Houston Car Meet (The Roman Report) 

Okay... that's better than my idea.

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that's a latest Queens of the stone age album :P

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Where is this show? Asking for a friend… cough

Matter of fact, forget the car meet!

Yup, I heard about that unoffical H2O car meet that caused the deaths of two people.... These clout chasers will do anything....

aaaahhhhhhh.... forget the blackjack.

can't really do that, considering the POST has nowhere to park anywhere around the premises. (That I can recall). Though it wouldn't be surprising that they would make their own elsewhere.

I would say they should get three responsible guys from the club. Interview anyone who wants to bring their car to future meets telling them the rules. Give them a pass that is permanent based on their behavior. If they act out, take away the pass.

I remember the tahoe one. Think he almost hit a pole 💀. He went into the grass too.

we need to ban under 25 from a lot more than car meets, can we start with the tech world, every piece of tech they touch they mess up with their know it all attitude which trancends into hiring and recruiting to the point where us serious engineers seriously dont want anything to do with the industry.

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Callaway owners too I imagine

I haven't really seen any GTO or G8 drivers being utter dipshits around Houston, but I think anyone buying rebadged Holdens is a different kind of buyer compared to the typical muscle car owner.

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@@spyderf16 👈 I'm one of those guys

Modern muscle is like the McRib, it keeps coming around even though seemingly no one likes it.

They banned hamburger meat from McDonald's decades ago.

Do t worry, there’s no meat in McDonalds patties.

@@666cemetaryslutmodern muscle is objectively better in every possible way than classic muscle. Classic cars are dogshit

@@alexbarn3841They drive better but no one cares about them, they are regular traffic.

You can’t legally ban people standing on the sidewalk, but you can ban assholes doing burnouts.

@@nathanchildress5596 the police can legally ban people from standing on the sidewalk.

@@House_of_SchmidtThe police could ticket people for doing burnouts or speeding through the parking lot.

@@House_of_Schmidt "we're waiting for our friend to come and pick us up, fuck off officer"

@@House_of_Schmidt Only if the sidewalk falls within the private event, otherwise you have a right to be there, and film, and get killed by Mustangs. Just ban the cars who are a problem, it's less messy and no one goes to car shows to look at modern muscle anyway, you can see enough of them on your commute

Well done

Those guys are typically working at the vape shop when the show happens

Meh the VQ will bend a rod before any torque is made

It's cars and coffee. The muscle car owners have jobs and can wake up for a cars and coffee event. Those guys are the midnight racers.

@@RAD-RC lot of boomers own muscle cars and they sleep in due to age

Up, up!

No u

No, its total BS. I as a responsible Mustang Owner in my mid 40s that doesn't do stupid stuff, am now banned and can't attend these events because of the actions of a bunch of stupid kids.

@@Spazilton1he’s only making the video, he’s not the coordinator of Houston cars & coffee or (hope not) the owners doing burnouts

Statistically, it will probably be an altama or Silverado that isn't at the car show.

Correct. It could be "anybody", but we all know who it is typically......

@@chrissellshomes150 RWD cars with enough torque to spin the tires? That Includes Supras, BMWs, Vettes and even exotics but yeah, I know the one's people like to point out because of how many exist.

Naked Dennis Gage bussin in his own hat in the back seat. That's who doesn't do burnouts in a muscle car.

What's the Hawthorne effect?

@@testcrit701 Roman explains it in the video quite well. Better than my professors in management science did.

That can still be anyone though.

The muscle car is built to get beat on and destroyed if your looking for that go get some luxobarge cruiser

Some people use classic to refer to carbirated cars. If it is fuel injection it is not classic

​@flamestoyershadowkill6400 Those people are wrong. Ever heard of a TR6 with Lewis fuel injection? Not a modern car. How about the Mercedes 300SL's fuel injection? Definitely nothing but a classic.

New Edge Mustang is classic now ❤

I think it should be any car over 30 years, right? a 20 year old car is just old. Kinda how the 60s/70s care were just old in the 80s, but now they're hot.

@@ItsJustaMeNow 25 years is the standard set by the NHRA and is generally accepted as the cutoff.

Classic example of bottom quartile law

Look at what's happened to Daytona bike week

What event are you referring to? I'm heavily into the Triangle car scene and I don't think I've been to an event in Cary since the Echo Park C&C shut down last year. Cary has the reputation of being the most unfriendly town to car events of any in the area.

Our local CofC has talked about this, what has come up is the real problems haven't been these banned cars and many times its not even the participants. People driving by have acted stupid. Last year they had a local police officer there who didn't do anything but block exiting traffic. This year they will have a sheriff. We'll see how that goes.

Not going to lie, when i was stationed at fort bragg, i frequent the Morrisville C&C a lot.

It def is a midlife crisis-mobile. I am 41 and just bought one and have wanted to do so since I was a teen, though I got a Ecoboost with the High performance package, so enough to have fun but not a "real" mustang and I def dont fit the 'stang bro look. Heck, I got pulled over by a cop on the way to work 2 days after buying it to make sure I hadnt stolen it and when the officer saw me get out of the car he pretty much went "Oh, nvm, move along"

Get a vintage one. Then you'll be associated with driving it like a granny and being your exact age (or even older lol). They look better, too.

Imagine letting other's considerations dictate how you spend your money and enjoyment during time living

Nah, you shouldn't care what other people think, get what you want. You're not spending your own money to get a car for other people to drive, you're spending it to get a car for YOU to drive. You start letting other people decide what you drive, then at the end of it the only thing that'll be "okay" to own is a corolla. Then you'll get blasted for being boring, old, and unimaginative. It ain't worth it

Just bought an 2014 s197 rag top. I know it's not the car people expect me to have, but it's actually a great car for a 49 year old who doesn't want to drive like an asshole. If you have a V6 and automatic, it's a great cruiser with light, old school American steering. The way to do midlife crisis is to not give a fuck. But you do have to get used to it...I see myself as more of a BMW e30 kind of guy, so it was an adjustment.

Couldn't have phrased this better myself. Very well put.

It's not just cars. You cant have a nice event ANYWHERE now without some jackass misbehaving and ruining things. So many people out there are desperate for attention, and society has been trained to not stand up and tell the sore thumbs to get f**ked.

Too many people wanting to play out the original version of Let’s Get It Started with their car

People who rev up their engine and do burnouts are annoying. This is coming from someone with a modded V8 (most mods by previous owners.)

Everyone wants to see something unique, whether they like to admit it or not. I'm the only local with a Baja bug and it always draws a ton of attention.

Well the mustangs, cameros and challengers owners will just start their own events and not allow any of these other cars and coffee attendees.

​@@tman1990 Yeah, it just becomes an arms race of pettiness, which is why I think the overall ban is ridiculous. If something goes down between disgruntled owners and the organizers next time they host it, I have to blame the organizers for banning an entire group and expecting it to play out well.

If they grew the event up, like Hot Rod Power Tour, Cleetus and Cars, Woodward Dream Cruise, LS Fest and held the event at a racetrack or huge stadium parking lot, they could set up one or more supervised events like an autocross, drift course, short drag strip or burnout box and there would be significantly less reason or temptation for anyone to act like a hooligan on the streets near the event, how can a bunch of people who are supposed to enthusiasts and companies that promote ownership of fast street cars expect people to not drive fast on the street, that is the most hipocritical thing I ever heard, if these were all illegal racecars being trailered there to only be shown that would be one thing, this is a celebration of fast street legal vehicles, grow up the event, make more money and give these people a designated place to show off and have fun. If the place where the event happens is against that, move it to somewhere that will accommodate it, the event certainly brings money to the businesses in the vicinity of the event selling fuel, food and so on its horse to say they don't and they need to accommodate the visitors and attendees, even if it means having police block off a section of a side road, setting up concrete barriers, wetting the road and letting people do a rolling burnie with supervision and relative safety, this Fudd attitude is disgusting and stupid.

Safety, perceived or otherwise, is usually going to be one of the top priorities for an event organizer. There is insurance needed to cover an event, the reputational risk for the organizers and sponsors, plus the litigious fallout if something were to happen.

But that would take effort and thought; can’t have that, gotta react

In Houston too, so yes

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Very few property owners will allow that. I've seen it once in my area. A local Quaker steak has a burnout competition once a year after the largest car show in the state and it's pretty regimented.

same

Personally I see it as a win. A line of 20 challengers that are effectively identical isn't exciting.

And line of 20 identical bmw, Hondas or whatever is?

@@wykydytron No.

Yeah guys, it can happen anywhere. As long as the only people for miles are millionaires preening for one another and you're surrounded by state parks and a canyon keeping the riff-raff at bay. Anyone's welcome to show up to the impromptu country club car meet.

Hell Yeah, Classic NFS

It's still stupid, it's the police's jobs to give bad actors tickets and not right to punish everyone for what a couple people do and it's extremely stupid from a business standpoint.

@@hendo337Sounds like a great personal argument and opportunity for starting your own event in Houston!🎉

​@@hendo337Which doesn't work if the event doesn't have police presence.

​@@hendo337Found the muclebro coping

I'd consider it 05+ when they went to the retro design and the other two followed suit

The accepted delineation is anything 25 years old or older is "classic", and everything newer is "modern" (that's the way car shows tend to be split up). I'd have to argue though that anything made from 2005 and newer is "modern" for American muscle cars.

Cars and coffee needs to evolve more. Hopefully, one day, it will evolve into something we all can enjoy or not.

Well often there's no sense in giving them a trophy. Your 3 year old car is stock and pretty? Okay so?

The show organizers support it by having classes for those cars. If not for modern muscle, car shows would be overrun by corvettes (which leads to the largest collection of New Balance sneakers you'd ever want to see) or JDM stuff, or not have many cars at all, because the classics are getting hella expensive.

A) I suspect this ban wasn’t the first move. I suspect this is a result of a series of repeated offenses by a bunch of different drivers and ultimately it was decided to ban them outright. This isn’t a surprise to anyone that watches car stuff on social media and knows it’s always the same people and cars blocking intersections to do burnouts, doing burnouts leaving the meets, and crashing into medians and other cars. B) the insufferable aggressive ego-fueled American car culture IS precisely the topic of this discussion.

You seem to think cars and coffee events are more structured than they actually are.

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Car shows used to be this - Either classics, race cars, or customs - nothing civilian. One problem is that "custom" has been eased to include people that swapped out shift knobs and wheels.