Music and Philosophy with Nikos Xanthoulis | Ancient Greece Revisited 

Thank you so much! We are really trying to get the word out and any help is more than welcome!

That's amazing. Where did you buy the lyra and how is it's quality? I was considering the same. Is the book of Luthirios good for beginners?

Thank you as well!

Thank you very very much for this comment!

Thank you for much for this brilliant comment. It's thanks to people like you that we keep on going!

@@AncientGreeceRevisited Of course! I love this channel, you are an amazing host! I always look forward to a new video that connects me to my ancient culture. Thank you!

Thank you!

Yes, Xanthoulis is perhaps the best there is, at least in Greece. We are glad you enjoyed it so much!

You are the artist Nikos referred to right? Would be nice to also hear you play on the lyre in the future!

@@AncientGreeceRevisited yes, I'm the artist Nikos referred to (and that was a great honor for me). It would be great to meeting you in person and play the lyre. Greetings from Thessaloniki.

Yes, you have all his details on the video details below. Thank you for your comment.

We agree! Wonderful sounds and wonderful Xanthoulis!

Thank you very much!

Thank you Dean! Keep up the good work as well...

Thank you too!

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Thank you 😊

Thank you!

Thank you!

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Ευχαριστούμε!

Welcome aboard Pete!

Ευχαριστούμε!

Ευχαριστούμε πολύ.

Να ειστε καλά! Να προσθεσω ως Γεωλογος οτι στη μελετη της αρχαιας μουσικης μας θα πρεπει να ληφθει υποψη πολυ σοβαρα ο Τοπος που αυτη αναπτυχθηκε και εξελιχθηκε, οπως και η γλωσσα, ιδιαιτερα εφοσον ο κυριως ελλαδικος χωρος αλλα και οι αμεσως γειτονικοι του, ηταν ανεκαθεν κερματισμενος γεωμορφολογικα και γεωλογικα σε επιμερους μικροτερους, αλλα πληρεις σε εικονες, ερεθισματα και μεσα διαβιωσης τοπους. Ή αν θελετε σε επιμερους "κοσμους, μικρους, μεγαλους" παραφραζοντας τον Ελυτη. Βεβαιως οι επαφες με εξωτερικους παραγοντες ηταν παντα ισχυρες, αλλα πιστευω οτι φιλτραρονταν στον καθε τοπο προτου δωσουν μικροτερες ή μεγαλυτερες αλλαγες. Καθοσον οι επιμερους Τοποι εμειναν γενικα οπως ηταν απο την αρχαια εποχη μεχρι και πολυ προσφατα, η καθοριστικη επιρροη τους στη μουσικη και τη γλωσσα ειναι ενας απο τους λογους που αυτες διατηρηθηκαν στα δημοτικα και λαϊκα τραγουδια διαχρονικα. Καλη συνεχεια στη μελετη σας κε Ξανθουλη.

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Please write to my personal email michael@agr-series.com

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Ευχαριστούμε!

Haha.. thank you. Yes, Mr. Xanthoulis made it a point, didn't he?

@@AncientGreeceRevisited oh yes...

Hahah. Yes, I know the feeling. I also play the guitar myself and, believe it or not, managed to learn a bit of Flamenco when I was living in Spain!

Well spoken, but perhaps what your analysis misses is the idea of "rhythm" and "analogies." The analogies are the essence of musical scales and, more importantly, musical modes en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_(music). These modes are defined by the "distances" between the notes, and there was something in this fact that fascinated Plato. I like what you said about the "experiential" aspect of something that would otherwise remain purely mental, but the thing that is experienced is not necessity logos. There is a strange and hardly understood passage in the "Republic," which, however, is central to how Regimes fall apart and decay, or rather how they begin this process from a place of otherwise perfection. Plato (through the mouth of Socrates) says that something perfect, like the Regime he described in this book, cannot really decay, because that would be irrational as it would mean that the same Regime also had flaws (which is the opposite of perfect). So Plato engages in a mystical tale of how human reproduction must follow some intervals (seasons of mating I suppose) that mimic musical scales, and when the people "fall out of rhythm" and start copulating and reproducing whenever they want, the children born start becoming defective in character, and will in time start corrupting the Regime. So what I'm saying was that music held more mysteries for Plato than mere "logos." I suppose ;-)

@@AncientGreeceRevisited Ah! Yes, wow you earned a subb by me 😂 truly you do philosophize and aren't merely another logician. I honestly didn't think you would respond with such an informed mind let alone at all ha ha. Yes what you touched on is correct. A surface level reading cannot be done with the works of _Plato Republic_ but, again it's not for the uninitiated or lazy philosopher. All that being said yes not being harmony with the essence of λόγος would definitely stem from a lack of μυσικε, that is to say "musing" quite literally! Philosophy requires careful thought and pondering, and as you rightly said there are certain rythms which must be followed otherwise it will result in the decay of the soul and society as a whole.

Well, the word "parousia" contains the root "ousia" which means "essence," so it's not the presence of a material body but of it's essence.

@@AncientGreeceRevisited Há very important many thanks : so it is in Spirit and Truth !!!

Thank you for the message George! Just wanted to let you know that all the videos have greek and english subtitles, among others.

You are right dear George, the field is really wide. I studied and practiced a small part of the discipline according to my potentialities. I hope that in the future a better lyrist will do more things on this marvelous instrument.

Thank you for the beautiful performance. @@NikosXanthoulis 🙏

I don't think that Nikos is actively looking at these comments, so I'll give you a response at the best of my knowledge. I believe that his lyre was made by Luthieros in Thessaloniki (luthieros.com/). For the rest, please contact Nikos directly through the links in the description.

@@AncientGreeceRevisited my lyre is from the laboratory of Nikolas Bras. nikolaosbrass.com/

That, only N. Xanthoulis can answer ... g.co/kgs/S3Hjyt

Μα έχει υπότιτλους (και μας πήρε και τόση ώρα να τους βάλουμε)

@@AncientGreeceRevisited ναι με τους αγγλικούς υπότιτλους το είδα και είναι πολύ καλοί. Τώρα παρατήρησα ότι έχει επιλογή για υπότιτλους στα ελληνικά. Θα το προβάλω στους μαθητές μου στο σχολείο. Πραγματικά σας ευχαριστώ! Είδα και άλλα βίντεό σας και κάνετε καταπληκτική δουλειά! Ευχαριστώ πολύ!

@@MedeaGR Μεγάλη μας τιμή. Υπάρχει βέβαια και αυτή που είναι στα Ελληνικά: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-E9bQgzV6icM.html

Oh yes! This possibility exists and every day I do my best to discover something new. The instrument has no limits. The human being has limits

The music of the spheres is not a precise concept any longer. We have lost the thread with the past, and no one - despite what they might say - knows what the Pythagoreans practiced. This discussion about music, I believe, is the closest thing to - at least - a new beginning. The "taulas" that you mentioned do not seem connected to the Pythagoreans, at least on first glance. If you have more information about this, or an article that you might want to share, please do.

Actually the Planets emit radio waves and special radio receivers can give you the sounds of Planets and the Sun and of Stars. This Music of the Spheres title is overused...the astronomy known in Pythagoras' times allowed the intuition that there is an order governing the planet motion. This order can be expressed through numbers that have correspondence in the World of Sounds as well. This correspondence was found later to be present in astronomical measurements such that the precession of the equinoxes is a large Number that is an exact multiple of 432, the frequency of LA note in the Pythagorean scale in which a Tone is made up of 9 Pythagorean units called commas. Please send me some info about the Pythagorean houses in the Baleares. I will tell you some astonishing things that will amaze even Dr. Xanthoulis...if I choose to tell him...

Please read the Note sent earlier to this Channel. Look for the image of Europa, the satellite...

Dude stfu and try to learn something from the video. You are a clown if you think Lydia and Phrygia weren't Greek city states.