I'm an autistic female, and god it feels like someone is just making fun of me. Everything about the character is awful and hurtful. It feels so infantilizing and like Music isn't even her own person.
And non speaking autistics are known to have very high sensory sensitivities thus making this pretty much inaccessible for them to watch yet it’s about them and Sia never consulted with one single non speaking autistic about the making of the film.
I feel bad for the actress. She has an incredibly unhealthy relationship with sia and literally started crying on set one time because she said she felt like she was making fun of people.
@@marymiller9034 yeah i remember watching dance moms i totally feel bad for Maddie there were several adults in this making i hope all the blame doesn't go on her a child cuz she's the actress thank u for sharing this btw
sia honestly did maddie SO dirty. like, that's a kid who literally said NO, and even cried cause she didn't wanna do it. contract or not, sia honestly set maddie up for this.
dude. maddie wasnt the one who "cried and said no"? sia brought a real autistic child on set to play the part but she wasnt comfortable with it so she had maddie fill in instead of pressuring her.
i do highly doubt sia offended people on purpose.. but i don’t understand or get why people are offended by it .. please explain it me cause i like the movie trailer and clips but i don’t want to be offensive by accident ….
The whole obsession día has with Maddie is honestly creepy now, she’s been working w her for over 5 years now and had this been a man he would’ve gotten backlash years ago... idk, something don’t feel right
@@tanithalakai4538 well if she's under a contract and if this movie was made by someone who have helped her career and family so much... and also Sia who was her I guess friend since she was 12 then I think it's inevitable to feel a little pressured into saying good things about the movie even if she isn't comfortable.
Honestly, Sia’s obsession with Maddie is really creepy to me. If Sia was a man, people would be completely against this weird relationship they have. I mean for goodness sake, if Maddie was uncomfortable doing this role and MADE to do it, doesn’t that sound like grooming to anyone?
the way that maddie, a child, had a panic attack because she knew this movie would be offensive to autistic people, and sia still made it go ahead. fucking disgusting.
haha remember when Sia had an autistic actor as the main character, but the actor found the sets too bright and loud, so instead of making it more accessible to the actually autistic girl they changed actor?
Well not to say Sia is right for this but that's literally business. Like if you had a character who has to fight someone throughout the movie and they say the set is too dark and the blood grosses them out, they'd simply replace the actor. So if an actor thinks a musical is too loud and bright they will replace them instead of cater the entire movie to make them feel good.
@@ab-yf1gg the problem is that sis made a movie for autistic people and basically admitted that the surrounding was not good for them. you see the problem? she’s trying so hard to advocate for autism but creates an environment that is not good for them.
I remember the school bullies making these faces and making these noises to make fun of the kids in the autistic unit. But when it is applied in front of a camera, it's suddenly ok? My son is autistic and it makes me feel physically sick to imagine this happening to him. This is a green light for every school bully to continue to use this behaviour in a mocking fashion.
@Aman Lool Er, I'm a woman, but nice insult attempt I guess. 😅 You should probably just leave it here, to avoid risking making yourself look any more stupid.
Aman Lool Oof, what did I tell you? Spelling “dumb” as “du mb” doesn’t do much to defend your intelligence. 😔 Oh well, you brought it on yourself I suppose. And nah, you’re stupid for assuming that I’m a male and “neckbeard” being the insult you went with. Shows how uncreatively dull you are.
I have a younger autistic brother and I actually recommend not saying your son has autism because theres just really mean and stupid people around the world who wouldn’t never understand and would make them feel low and you know how bad it can be for them mentally, I’m not saying everyone because obviously there are specific people you need to inform like teachers etc(this is just a suggestion because my parents always tell me to never tell anyone about it)
I know maddie was really uncomfortable with playing this. Sia dragging her into all her subsequent projects and calling a teen girl her muse honestly seems like a big issue
@@youruethedaycarlyshay i did not mean that as an insult, and if it came off that way i am sorry, but maybe people are just saying that, bc one person wrote and than some one did wat u did, and just said bc they said it. you never know until you do some research
@@gingergriffin7002 someone didn’t magically start it while others started copying it, if you want you can try asking one of those comments for a source :)
@@LifeisaBeautifulting It also seems like Sia is trying to groom Maddie, having sleepovers, sleeping in the same bed, telling herself that she's a "surrogate mother" to Maddie while she still has a mother, forcing her to resign to be in other movies, wanting her to be but in as much movies and musicals as possible. It feels creepy at best.
Sia has an unhealthily relationship with Maddie and I quote said she couldn't do this movie without Maddie in it. If you look back at Sia's old music videos you'll notice she uses Maddie in almost everything
Yea makes it feel like autism is just a plot point to drive this awful plot of "party girl finds who she is after moving back home and caring for someone"
I’m not autistic but this whole trailer feels like it’s basically saying look how difficult autistic people are to handle as if they aren’t real people and just some sort of pet. This is so insensitive
Thank you, that’s how l feel for my Community. I just felt like somebody was mocking me because I do the hand movements, l feel embarrassed that people see that. :(((
exactly. i’ve literally struggled with suicidal thoughts cuz people in my life constantly perpetuate that i don’t know shit and i’m not even low functioning. they claim that i’m so autistic and “retarded” but then use the times i act out due to my disability against me 😃
@Nadia no shit. the movie still isn’t ok the main character is being played by a neurotypical girl and on top of that fucking autism speaks was part of the team that worked on this. if that doesn’t say something idk what does
@Rik rik why are you mansplaining a condition you don’t even have. obviously there’s people with more severe autism. the problem is the main character is being played by a neurotypical actress who doesn’t actually know what it’s like to be autistic, thus her imitating what she thinks autistic people do is a mockery even tho it wasn’t her intention cuz she didn’t even wanna work on the film. maddie cried on multiple occasions after shoots cuz she felt like she was mocking us and Sia wouldn’t drop her. on top of that they did originally have an actual autistic girl playing music and they fired her cuz it was “too difficult to work with her” on top of that autism speaks also had a hand in this moving being made and they are a disgusting hate group that DOES NOT help autistic people. stop defending this movie, actual autistic people are very upset about this movie being made and your not being a very god ally
This is one pretty good example of how someone should stick with what they are originally good at, in the case of Sia she writes and makes music a lot better. 🎶🎵🎶🎵
My sister cried non stop watching this trailer because she loves sia. Worse, she couldn't even watch it fully because of the bright colours and the representation felt like someone was bullying her right in front of me.
i felt like i was being bullied while watching this ☹️ i’m so sorry that your sister was let down by someone she looked up too. i’m autistic myself and i tend to have a lot of hyper fixations on certain things and people. i can imagine if someone i looked up to did something like this i would be so damn sad.
The fact that this movie is really from the older sister's pov rather than Music's pov is really some empty "representation." Instead of bringing Music's story to life, Music was just used as a tool to help her sister grow based off what was shown in this trailer :(
@@indiag6361 yeah but sia said multiple times she wanted to give autistics a voice with this movie, pretty hard to do when the caregiver is the protagonist as that’s naturally who you empathize with when experiencing a story. Also if what’s eating Gilbert grape is the bar for autistic representation we’re all fucked cause that bar’s 10,000 feet below sea level
So basically 'Music' is sidelined whenever it's suddenly convenient. Then the older sis comes in, who has a drug and alcohol problem like Sia used to. So, this is actually some fucked up self insert movie by Sia.
Have you ever seen "For the Love of Gabe" and many other families dealing with non verbal autism in the facebook and youtube community? I am so angered by your comment. Not everyone on the spectrum is verbal and Sia chose to portray someone non verbal. This movie's comments really show me how little people know about autism. Back in the day, the lines were very clear. People with autism were people that acted like MUSIC. Now everyone is on the spectrum....including me. Just because Sia chose to write about her non verbal friend does not mean it does not exist. Do better!!!!
I dislike this film so much because it makes instead of showing the difficulties of being autistic, it shows the difficulties of dealing with someone who is autistic, which is insanely insensitive. Have you seen heartbreak high? they actually got a autistic actor to play the autistic character. And the representation was insanely good. I instantly recognised it and it was very good. For you to say that back in the day all autistic people acted like music is insanely bigoted and ableist and it honestly shocks me. You wanna know why you think that? Its because "back in the day" doctors and psychologists who dealt with these things had very limited information on what autism was, so they thought it was just someone who acted like that. Not all autistic people a non-verbal. I get it, some are. But that doesn't mean they act like this. This literally adds fuel to the fire because what people are gonna take from this is that autistic people are stupid idiots and autism is the worst thing because it ruins lives when that just isn't true. tldr (because im sure you didnt, you probably dont even understand some words) open your eyes. @@kalesmonroe2556
So you think every autistic person acts exactly like you? Because I know people with autism that act EXACTLY like that. And you saying they don't exist makes me angry.@@thomasisbored9060
@@summerthelammyandliftykinn2186 yep, I AM MAD AT SIA WHO IS A GROWN ASS WOMAN WHO IS ALSOMST 50, TO DO THIS SHIT, AND I AM 4 DECADES YOUNGER THAN HER!!! 😡😡😡😡😡
@Atlus Avalon Bruh, the role of the autistic character was played by someone who wasn't autistic, Sia basically mocked autistic people. And idk what makes you think the movie was so great but it hurtful to the autistic community. Maddie didn't want to take part of it, Sia forced her to! Maddie was crying on set because she felt like she was mocking the autistic community. The movie did more bad than good. I really can't believe you would call people, bigots for not supporting a movie that mocks people on the autistic spectrum, if you're supporting autistics and you support this movie which mocked people with autism, then wouldn't you be a bigot? I'm autistic and ADHD, I kinda cringed when you called me a bigot. Congrats you've not just only embarrassed yourself, but you've made yourself a clown as well.
Just so everyone knows, Maddie absolutely hated playing this role. She cried on set numerous times and was very open with how uncomfortable she felt playing this role. Please do not blame Maddie, the blame rests with Sia.
My grandma was in a coma, and this movie played on the tv in her hospital room. She woke up just so she could turn the tv off Edit: I'd like to apologise for using this joke that has been used in so many comment sections. Have a cookie 🍪
Okay, I'm autistic and I feel like I have to say it: We do not see the world as if we're on LSD. Edit: Why is everyone taking this comment so seriously??? I just wanted to make a (bad) joke about how laughably ridiculous those scenes were.
@David Berkowitz Yeah, I get that those parts are not supposed to be taken literally, specially since it's a musical, so it gets a pass at that. But honestly? They're actually too ridiculous and hillarious to be taken seriously, even as a metaphor. Besides, I just wanted to crack a little joke. No ill or harm intended there.
I just want to say that Maddie Ziegler, the actor for the movie, was forced to do it by Sia and so many other adults. She was crying on set because she thought it was rude, and she would get sued if she didn't go along with it
@@locklear308 the way they are going about the cure is disgusting and abusive. They treat autism as a burden and something to be feared and hated instead of accepted. My autism makes me who I am, I do not want to change
@@impxriobellxtrix7121 You're out of your mind. I would give ANYTHING not to feel this way and have these issues. Why wouldn't you want to be normal? Hell just not deal with the emotional pain? Go to hell.
@@locklear308 chill the fuck out. No I don’t care whether I’m “normal” or not. If I was born without it that would be nice, but I have it and it makes me who I am. Yes it can be very difficult but it is what it is
why did they make leslie have an african accent? he couldn't be a black man without an african accent??? his natural speaking voice, as any hamilton fan would know, is beautiful. (not to mention the autism representation and performance in this film is horrific) i’m also not saying someone with an African accent would be wrong, but seeing how even Autism was poorly portrayed, i find it hard to believe this was done for the right reason. Just compare it to how Indians have had to wear Indian accents with no effect to the plot just because. Poor taste as usual, Sia.
yeah!? this is another layer of wrong with this film. They essentially turned his character into the “magical black trope” which is a stereotype in film where Black people are treated as alien and with knowledge and not as real people. So gross and awful man.
I am autistic and today, one year after its release I decided to watch it. And I sobbed, I cried because I realised in that moment that I seen like this. I will never be seen as a person, because stereotypes and infantilization of autistic people has been going on forever, and the fact this movie came out only a YEAR ago proves it. Sia said this was her "gift" to the autistic community, it feels more like a punch in the stomach to me. Also, if you aren't autistic and you think this movie was good, or that "its just a movie" or "I have autistic friends and they liked it!" Just shut up because I don't want to hear it. This movie was made by Sia and Autism speaks (a literal hate group who thinks that they can "fix" autistic people) to mock people with ASD.
yeah. this movie is the worst possible "gift" from sia and autism speaks (aka the hate group who is trying to 'cure' autistic people and at one point advocated someone saying they wanted to k!ll her autistic daughter!!)
Please know that at least from me and the people i know, we do not see anybody in the autistic community like this movie shows. Sia made a flat out bad movie, it is disrespectful and full of stereotypes (i dont need to tell you that obviously, you know)
@@tehr6809 yeah, people stereotype me as pretty much sheldon cooper whenever i tell them i'm autistic, apparently neurotypicals assume we can only be nonverbals or sheldon cooper. autism is f u n
I agree honestly but I never thought deeply about her “mocking” us until you said it I am autistic too and sometimes my siblings would make fun of me for it in a mocking way but I did watch this and it made me a bit uncomfortable too then again NO HATE TO MADDI because I understand it’s a job but it is offensive
I’ll make her an inanimate object if she say that shit to my face. We have complex minds and can be useful in society. We are diverse and I bet only ~1% of us are anything like the girl in this movie. I have never personally met anyone like her but I do live in a small town and don’t travel much so my views might be influenced by that.
"yes i will make a movie about having a family member that has autism" "what do you mean i have to do basic google searches so that i don't look like a nutjob?"
Interesting how when Leonardo DiCaprio was in Whats Easting Gilbert Grape, no one was outraged - they were blown away by DiCaprio's portrayal. I think this new generation of kids is the Outrage Generation. Always suspecting the worst in people, always quick to blame... instead of coming from a place of understanding, which, if you watched the movie, you'd realise this film is trying to promote understanding among neurotypicals.
@@alphabet_soup123 I watched the movie to reply to you, and now I can safely say the movie is a disaster and complete and utter disrespect for autistic people the plot was fine, the idea it tried to portray was good, but did they have to make autistic people look like fucking aliens?
@@absolutelychampagne Most people do not like this movie. It has received huge amounts of backlash. And the people who do enjoy this movie are very tone deaf and should take into consideration the amount of backlash it has received. It’s straight up offensive.
@Nick Hogan Lmao, ‘white people making decisions for him.’ tf is that supposed to mean? he didn’t write the script or direct the movie, when people talk about poor representation, it has nothing to do with Leslie because he did not write the movie or direct it. When the movie is being criticised, it literally has nothing to do with Leslie and for the life of me I can’t figure out why you think it does.
@Benjamin Bottom Wobbles She's also a fucking child, Benjamin. Her frontal lobe isn't developed. An adult should have stepped in and said no instead of allowing her to listen to Sia and think this is fine. Teenagers are easily swayed, no matter how smart they are, especially when it comes to someone they look up to and love as a second mom. Sia is the one responsible. Stop blaming a literal child.
I’m super sad about this cause it feels like it could be so good and beautiful if sia did her research with a charity that actually cares about autistic people and cast an autistic girl
Oki can u guys stop this trailer is already done can u stop complaining or just stop. How do u think maddie feels? Plus thats why maddies is an ACTOR because she acts and sia picked her for a reason so pls stop its not gonna do u any harm to stop
@@crishnameesampiano4372 nobody is blaming Maddie. she was an actor who felt uncomfortable portraying a marginalised group, but sia convinced her it was fine. We’re mad at sia not the fucking child she cast in her movie
@@crishnameesampiano4372 the fact that Maddie felt bad about filming this shows that she is a nice person. Sia convinced her to do this, even if that made Maddie cry.
I was diagnosed with autism late in life I mean mid-twenties late. This movie is made with the best of intentions. But autism is a spectrum and it is never represented correctly. We are either represented as non-verbal and non-functional or we are represented as nearly robotic jerks and geniuses. This bothers me because we deserve better representation.
@@deanamerica3680 Making the actress skin darker for a movie role... When they could find someone who's actually autistic and mixed race???? Sounds like blackface to me.
Honestly imagine if Sia was a guy and had the same relationship, I reckon a lot of red flags would be waving. I think Maddie is better off far away from sia, she gives off bad vibes to me
I'm still very confused. Are we not allowed to represent severe disabilities? Is it in bad taste to admit they exist? I just don't understand the problem.
@@varrantgreen4259 the point of the “movie” is imitating people with disabilities while sia is also an ableist (someone who makes fun of the disabled) this is highly disrespectful and shouldn’t have been made .this “movie” imitates autism and people who have seizures which is not okay whatsoever and sis is a GROWN WOMAN and apparently has no clue that this is highly offensive
@@varrantgreen4259 ok first of all don’t use the term “severe disability” like that. Also, the main character of this movie is a nonverbal autistic girl. Sia could have casted a nonverbal autistic girl to play her but instead she picked a neurotypical one. I don’t blame Maddie for this because she’s a child and the adults around her are responsible. But her acting in this movie is atrocious. It is a mockery of autistic people. When “training” for her role Maddie watched clips of Leonardo DiCaprio, another neurotypical, playing an autistic character. And in response to criticism from the autistic community for casting an allistic actress, Sia said that maybe the autistics that auditioned were “just bad actors.”
@@static-scribblez Firstly, have you seen the film? Sia actually did audition several non-verbal actors, including her neuroatypical friend who she claimed found acting in the film “too stressful.” Ultimately, she chose Maddie for the role. Maddie cried during the FIRST day of shooting. Leslie Odom Jr's accent may have been offensive? He played a role on Grey's Anatomy. His father was in chronic renal failure. In order to get his father a kidney transplant, his father offered him $10,000 to join a domino kidney transplant. He donated his kidney. As someone who is currently battling kidney cancer, should I be offended because he pretended to donate a kidney on a fictional show? People with autism are sometimes oversensitive or undersensitive to sensory information. This means their senses take in either too much or too little information from the environment around them. Not all people with autism have sensory sensitivities, but some might have several. Why is it ok for you to dismiss those who have undersensitivity to sensory information? May they not enjoy the film?
@@absolutelychampagne I'm not on the spectrum, but many people who are are saying they find it offensive. It almost feels like a mockery of autistic people. That's just my opinion though.
@@Thais_jeffy we can if we want because how you feel you represented right how dear you say we are boring there different levels of autisum and we personality we are people like everyone else with feeling I will gladly deal with anyone on higher spectrum of beacse they are the sweetest people
I’m gonna be very honest: Im gonna miss seeing all the dislikes this trailer had😢 Dang it RU-vid! WHY MUST YOU TAKE THE THINGS WE LOVE AND THAT ARE IMPORTANT?!!!!😭
What? Is that seriously what are you gleaned from the trailer? Can’t you tell that from all the colourful sets and dancing, we’re going to be seeing an insight into music’s mind and how she interprets situations, like a song in her head. I swear I can tell this movie is going to be so
@@rose_millsie9287 bright lights and sounds are really stressful for autistic people. Kind of stupid if you ask me. It's like having a rave scene in a movie about an epilepsy sufferer.
i’m autistic and i also have tourette syndrome, and this just hurts my brain to watch. i am so so sorry to all the other autistic and nerodivergent people who have seen this and are hurt by it :(
I’d be a lot more disgusted if they hired a low functioning person for this role. My brother is slightly worse than how she’s portrayed in this film and he would not be able to handle ACTING. My boyfriend who’s also autistic doesn’t care either because it doesn’t hurt him. He knows it’s safer for people with disabilities to not be forced into positions where they’re uncomfortable/have meltdowns/be terrified. It’s not mocking... it’s representation of a community.
I am a girl with autism (aspergers) and it feels like this movie is MOCKING me and the way I am. Why was this movie even made? Even if there were good intentions, this is absolutely the wrong way to make a movie 'to make autistic people feel included' because I feel mocked. Not included.
"On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, Music has an approval rating of 7%, with an average rating of 3.5/10. The website's critics consensus reads, 'Offensive in its depiction of autism-and painfully misguided in essentially every respect-Music is a vanity project that begs to be turned down.'"
@@Lazy_Sundae I completely agree with that. They should have at the very least hired an autistic actor. They will be the one who can portray what it really feels like to have autism
looking forward to Sia's next film, Minstrel, involuntarily starring Maddie Ziegler as a black girl, in full blackface, with 10 new songs and a supporting comment from esteemed black organisation, the KKK
It's a contract that her mother signed with Sia when she was 14. Even if the mother wanted to get her out, she can't. They can't really run away as there are likely repercussions. Watch out for contracts folks always hire a lawyer😅
Her agent definitely needs to get fired for allowing maddie to be in this career ending shit. I'd rather have her break a contract and pay the fee than have her ruin the rest of her career at the age of 18.
We've talked about the horrifying ableism in Music's character, but let's also 'appreciate' the fact that they gave a guy who was born and raised in Queens a nondescript 'African' accent just for diversity points
I am not defending the movie. The relationship between maddie and Sia is off from the get go. Especially as she has kids of her own. But accents are part of acting. Acting is literally playing a different character. I dont think the accent is the issue. I think that when even the lead actress knows it's wrong then something is wrong. And SIA can say she tried with a real autistic person as many times as she wants WE ALL KNOW SHE WANTED MADDIE! shes obsessed with her!
@@lucyrequier8212 Except 'African' isn't an accent? there are an estimated 1500-2000 African languages, all with their own diverse accents and voices. Do you really think Sia actually went through the time to figure out what accent would be applicable? Even in America, you can see that accents change completely depending on where you are. It wouldn't make sense for a person from Texas to be given an 'American accent' which is actually a New York accent, and it doesn't make sense for Leslie to have been given an 'African accent' that doesn't accurately portray Africa's linguistic diversities.
@@Ali_just_ali I appreciate that. And am aware of that. I personally have not seen the movie and am not certain whether I even want to support it at this point. But I come from france where we have more African people then in UK where I currently live. I am aware of the amount of countries, languages, dialects. And as you correctly said; even within on same country there are huge differences in accents. In UK it's so strong even some english speaking people dont understand certain accents, in france their are different accents but not as pronounced. I have been talking to an american person and we actually discussed that. I never meant to offend anyone. As I said I have not seen the film, but do not mistake me for a person who thinks africa is a country rather than a big continent with various religions, colours, cultures and languages. All the best 😊
I'm not in the spectrum but this looks so disrespectful to those who are Helpful Reminder: My intention was never to "hurt" or "offend" those in the spectrum with my comment, I specifically clarified in my comment that "I'm not in the spectrum" and that's it !! Why do I find it disrespectful? (You may ask) Well, lets start with acknowledging that Maddie Ziegler it is not the right choice of casting for the movie !!
Nepotism at its finest. Never seen such a tone deaf trailer in my life. And Maddie's mouth hanging open all the time is all I can see watching this trailer.
Madddie felt very uncomfortable filming this movie and felt like she was doing something offense. She(more so her mom) signed a contract when she was only about 15, so she couldn't back out.
@2 m0_0π Basically. You hire a relative or a friend. Train them, give them special treatment and give this a promotion before more experienced and better skilled people.
tbh it seems like she is making a mockery of people with autism. ik it isn't her fault because like she isn't freakin autistic so how could she know but still
Of course the plot is centered around the neurotypical person and not the autistic person, cuz it was made to be catered towards neurotypical ppl instead of the community it’s supposed to be about🤦🏼♀️
@@electralee exactly, if it was made for people with autism, there wouldn't be over stimulating colors/music and stuff. This is as if they made a movie about people in a wheelchair but to access the cinema, there are 50 stairs and no lift.
Wow, imagine making a movie where the title is the name of a character with autism and then mainly focus on the neurotypical sister. (not to mention all actors are neurotypical)
This movie seems like it could've been beautiful, the plot and representation, it had so much potential and it was slaughtered by so many reason (bad writing, bad character development, bad character interaction, bad representation due to the fact the writers didnt want to learn about autism to write an AUTISTIC CHARACTER) it was such a missed opportunity
How do you know you haven't learned anything about autism? Maybe they just didn't have enough time or didn't take enough time when writing the "autistic character." You have to remember: If the actor were really an autistic person, you probably wouldn't be able to execute the script the way you want, because the person's authism means they can't execute it the way you want. A drug addict or even a person with dementia as an actor could represent the person in question, but the movie might not be realized as planned.
@@maxbeck289sia literally said she spent 3 fucking years trying to research neurodivergent behaviour and it's still ass, and she works with Autism Speaks
Seems like she's manipulative towards Maddie tbh. People who are manipulative latch on to those who don't have boundaries and tend to be vulnerable. This is an assumption based on my own experiences and by some of the comments I've read about her forcing Maddie into this and other projects btw.
@@literallyasuka2996 My gosh just stop with these assumptions, please. You are literally basing your theory about people you don't even know personally by... some online comments? This is beyond ridiculous. Maddie never said anything about being forced to take part of the movie: this isn't even an assumption, it's just a gossip made by people who didn't like the casting choice of Maddie as an autistic person and, because of that, now want to destroy an artist's career.
Sia's reaction to being called out by the autistic community was just so off-putting it was so rude... Honestly made it seem like all she cared about was making oscar bait for maddie, not actually representing anyone on the spectrum. Kinda sad really.
As someone with autism not all of us act out like that if we’re feeling a certain way but autism is different for everyone, I haven’t seen the movie yet but I’m sure it’s a great story
I don't think its like that at all, Movies are created to bring a story to life it doesn't matter who is in it you can feel the happiness, sadness, anger and so much more emotions. Celebrities always get picked on, but we must remember that they worked hard to get up there and I know we've been working hard too, but have you ever seen a comment or a video posted on Spcial Media for the WHOLE WORLD to see and they come there and insult you? Look you have your opinion, but did you watch the movie? And if you are angry then go tell Sia what you think about HER movie, then come back here and tell us what she said.
I think that anyone would be angry if people criticised what they had been working about so hard on not because of it (in this case the movie) itself, but because of something complimentary (like the actors).
@@fernandaruizpino6657 sure, but her response was straight up rude. She was telling autistic actors commenting on it that they probably suck at acting, which is uncalled for
You know what acting is, right? It's pretending to be someone and/or something you're not. If only people who are actually those things are allowed to play those things, it isn't acting anymore.
this is so sad. the fact that maddie basically had no say in this either… can’t imagine how scared she might’ve been to play this roll or of offending people. it was probably traumatizing to her, but it’s most definitely traumatizing to the autistic community. i feel so sorry for everyone hurt by this video.
Because the dislike counter is removed, I ended up watching this movie based on the number of likes I should not have watched this film Bring back the dislike counter
Same my brother has autism and I agree with you this was uncomfortable to watch and the way they were trying to portray autistic people Is just bad literally that's not how they act and I can say this becasue my brother is autistic and have met other people with autism.
also, as a person from an african country, Lesies "african" accent is terrible, maybe next time hire a coach or educate urself that different african countries have completely differnet accents. and i hate how she portrays the character to be "african" like pick a country instead of just saying hes from africa because it puts this false narrative in the media that all africans talk like that or that all africans are black or makes ppl think that africa is a country. eg when a person is from canada, u say "hes canadian" not "hes north american" because there are individual countries.
They are what?!?!?!?!? That is so fucking wrong! Sia can not call this a "loveletter to the autistic community" and then work with fucking autism speaks
Yeah but I have heard that Autism Speaks doesn't really care for autism, that they just care about money and kinda humiliate and belittle the autistic people...
I’m autistic and this is literally disgusting why you making a mockery out of it stop. -thank you so much for the people agreeing/defending me I seriously appreciate you❤️
get a grip no ones making a mockery of anything, you need to look at yourself as you are literally part of the problem and the offensive culture. everything is offensive and racist right? How is it offensive? My brother is the same, my sister works with ppl with severe autism and it is accurate. Just because the actor isnt autistic it does not mean that anyone's mocking anyone. You all need to get a grip. STOP MAKING EVERYTHING ABOUT YOURSELF AND TURN IT INTO A PERSONAL PROBLEM. Just because you don't like something it does not mean it's offensive for ffs
@@lovinqmochxii1603 oh, alright.. love? did you really have to mention you're autistic? No. No one cares, besides the point the point is that ppl are getting offended about literally nothing. It's ridiculous just like the hate that the movie, sia and the actress is getting :D xxx bye love ;)
I’m a high-functioning Autistic guy and I personally don’t mind the idea of a non-Autistic actor playing an Autistic character. What I do have a problem with, however, is the character they’re portraying being unrealistic to the point of borderline mockery, which this definitely is. I’m sure Sia had pure intentions when making this movie, but she completely failed.
@accompanist603 People within the autistic community have the right to be portrayed in ways that they--not you or anyone else outside of their community--feel are respectful and realistic, not dehumanizing and disrespectful. To do otherwise is to say that the feelings of the autistic community don't matter, when they absolutely do!
@Elijah Cook I found out about this film through a RU-vid channel put out by a guy with Aspbergers called My Aspie World when he was criticizing this movie in his most recent video along with a girl who also has Aspbergers. Having no context for the film I looked it up and watched the trailer here. Having had friends with autism I was horrified by this trailer! While it's of course not my place to speak for the autistic community, the portrayal came off as a completely dehumanizing caricature of everyone I've ever known with autism! According to folks in the autism community over on My Aspie World, too, people in the autism & Aspbergers community reached out to Sia to talk to her about what makes this film so problematic, and she just simply offered a really trite, superficial apology, and then refused to listen any further--even deleting her Twitter account when people in the community approached her about it on there! It shows that she doesn't really care about those with Aspbergers and autism, she simply wants to use a demeaning portrayal of them to make a movie that she can make money off of. It's a selfishly disgusting attitude in the extreme! If she really cared about the autistic community, then she would be willing to listen to the autistic community!
@@jimmylittle9393 as an autistic, NO! You’re either born autistic or you’re not. Everyone is NOT autistic. By that logic, everyone who is Southern European is a little black because they have black and dark eyes, yet have pasty white skin.
This hurts me so much for 2 reasons.. 1. Maddie didn't want to do this but was basically FORCED to do it; Sia made it impossible for her to escape this role. It disgusts me that she had to go through this. 2. Most people with autism are capable of proper communicating and doing (some) work, but we struggle a lot with our own demons, whether it is socially, work, school or all of them. We fight so hard, every single day, and yet we're being mocked. Even though the movie is probably made with 'good intentions', it only brings pain to most of us. It's so disappointing to see another stereotypical and unfair screenplay. We are people, not jokes. I might not be able to work in noisy rooms, but with some space & peace I can write you a perfect blog/review and build a gorgeous website. I might come over rude when not looking into your eyes, but I can deeply sympathize with someone's story, problems or struggles. I might not be able to put everything in the right words when talking, but I can express myself amazingly on paper. And that's just me, while there are so many other autistic people who have so much more amazing things to offer. Just because we might be a bit 'different', we're not weird or incapabel. We are all talented and deserve to be acknowledged like any other talented person. If you doubt yourself because of your autism, please know that you deserve to be acknowledged. You deserve to develop your talents and do what you love. You deserve to be accepted and loved. You are not weird, awkward, annoying or impossible. You are perfect the way you are. Nothing changes the fact that you're amazing and gorgeous. Beauty comes in many shapes and sizes - that also counts for our perfectly imperfect neuro divergent brains!
@Philip Cummins Emotional manipulation can do a lot with a young girl and a money-hungry mom. When she was quite young, the role was already assigned to her (her mom signed the contract IIRC? she was about 14 I think back then) and Sia is basically being predatory towards Maddie (weird, really awkward intimate relationship together) which makes her extremely vulnerable. So, 1. the contract, 2. the emotional manipulation from Sia, 3. the absurd relationship and control that Sia has over her.
@@soph1683 what these people don’t understand is that is isn’t even 100% about an autistic character being played by a neurotypical person (it should be played by autistic person i’m not disputing that). it feels like a mockery because a lot of the motions and expressions she makes have been used to mock autistic people for years. part of their research was watching videos of autistic adults and children having severe meltdowns which is highly invasive and is posted to humiliate them, ‘3 years of research’ yet planned to be involved with autism speaks until even them the harmful basically autistic hate group denounced her further proof she’s shit. in interviews agreed with people calling non verbal autistics objects ‘like a wig’ and the actual content is harmful in the film there are multiple meltdown scenes that people stop by restraining music which is highly overwhelming and if people apply that to real life when autistic people have meltdowns they will literally have trauma from it
@@soph1683 like even if they had someone with low support needs but still autistic play the character thatd be fine because they’re autistic. some parts could push that’s it’s mockery but they still have the same disorder
@@absolutelychampagne acting is supposed to be believable, you are supposed to forget the person in the screen is an actor pretending to be other person. This looks so artificial and you never get to immerse in the acting, and as an autistic person, this looks more like the kids that mocked me for being autistic rather than someone acting like a an autistic person, sweety.
@Ada Nb Actually, I think that what they mean is that if you create/say something, you make sure that it is at least one of the things above (it doesn't have to be ALL of the things, but at least one). Otherway what you're saying is completely irrelevant and thus you shouldn't say it at all. I hope I made myself clear hahaha my english is not that good yet
I feel like if they wanted to make a movie to raise awareness about autism, they could’ve actually used someone with autism to play their role to make it more realistic and raw instead of glorifying it with someone that didn’t even want that role in the first place. And more research would probably have been helpful before producing it, in my opinion. 🤷🏻♀️
this honestly seems like a movie with a good storyline, but they shouldn't have gotten a non-autistic person to play to the role of one. that's the main problem in my opinion...
As an autistic girl, I’m really offended by this. This is not good representations in any sense of the word and I wish this movie never existed it’s just a fucking mockery of actual autistic people The actress who played music (Maddie Ziegler I think) didn’t even want to so please don’t criticize her as a person
fr like im high functioning on the spectrum so i mask people which means i appear to be just like everyone else. the only things that are really different are my inability to understand sarcasm and people’s emotions, sensory issues, a heightened sense of hearing which makes everything a little overwhelming and severe social anxiety. there’s a lot more but like it’s offensive for sia to assume that all of us autistics are non verbal :((
@@spiderpants4014 who don’t have what? i think im allowed to be offended lol i literally have this condition. it’s basically stereotyping every autistic person to be non verbal. please don’t tell me what not to be offended at im literally autistic
@@skvlxc I understand where you're coming from ..but it is very common knowledge that not everyone who has autism is non-verbal so I wouldn't personally see it as stereotypical.... I can think of dozens of shows which represent milder autism but generally its way less common to see more severe austism in the media because it is rarely represented. ... not that I agree with how the film handled it at all . Everything about it was handled badly honestly . The fact the trailer itself is so sensory and not even accommodating an autistic actress is all just ... dodgy .
@@okaythen333 i understand that, i just find it unfair of sia also that she didn’t cast an actual autistic girl for the role because she had a meltdown from a sensory overload which is understandable considering the lighting choice and all the bright colours. it disgusts me that she’s trying to spread awareness while being blatantly ableist during filming. it feels as though she’s doing it to make herself and maddie look good
This is my thought as well. For all of Sia's claims that she researched for years to make a film for us, the focus is still through the eyes of a family member/caretaker. If I had Disney+ I'd watch Loop. I've heard it was received well.
Wait, this is a love story? I didn't really get that from the trailer, unless you meant the 'I love her' part. Love doesn't always have to be romantic but idk.
@@miaa1762 I don't know it for a fact, I just thought there was some flirting between Kate Hudson's character and Leslie Odom Jr's character lol but my main point was what @KristiChan1 was saying about these stories often being from the caretaker's pov
I'm sick of these movies where autistic characters are just there to make some drama. They're not even real characters, they look more like pets who are there to help to tell the story of the main character. Tne main character usually some selfish idiot who doesn't know a thing about empathy.
@@avz5630 i have and maddie’s character shows more of how people mock autistic people than how they actually are. And the movie is made to include autistics and in a way they cant be because for one it’s offensive and all the flashing lights and bright colours they cant look at so...
@@avz5630 yes there are. She should have hired one to portray the character. Insinuating that autistic actors shouldn’t be cast in roles because it is “too stressful” on your set shows she is the problem, not the original actress. She should have worked more with the original actress and accommodated her needs. You know... making things accessible for the people you claim to be “helping”.
absolutely disgusting, incredibly disrespectful, and blatantly ableist. feel bad for maddie in the situation, i hope sia gets some serious karma for the damage she inflicted to so many with this
@@hanin_gurl ok? he's a grown adult who can do what he wants. i understand being sympathetic to maddie, who was a minor while making this, but leslie is a grown man who can make his own choices. maybe he's not as good a person as we thought he is.
@@ellasedits_ Well maybe or maybe not. Yes I understand he is an adult, and he makes his own decisions. And I completely agree that he shouldn't have done it if he didn't want to. But sia was quite manipulative, as she kept telling everyone it was OK while it was not.
i feel awful for Maddie. she literally broke down because she felt like she was mocking the autistic community. i'm pretty sure she feels she couldn't say no because she didn't want to damage her relationship with SIa.
As an autistic, 14 year old girl- I know it’s not my place to say anything but I’m my opinion this is so offensive, and you can’t even blame Maddie because she did say she was uncomfortable with this role…. Also all the bright colours and loud noises is actually difficult to process as someone on the spectrum.
I can articulate why: it's an ableist, stereotypical, and very clearly under researched portrayal. Sia is ableist and has admitted that. Its honestly a mockery.
@@brumi1061 hate bandwagon?? are you serious? this movie is creating harmful stereotypes about people with autism and clearly neglecting the representation that people on the spectrum deserve. YOU make me sick. educate yourself and then come back.
I’m an autistic girl and this is beyond disrespectful. I feel like someone is making fun of me! This is so ableist and stereotyped. This just hurt our community and spread more misinformation about us.
Can you explain where the misinformation is? Because I don't see it. I would think this movie would help more people understand what some Autistic people may go through. Right? I know my son is a lot liike the character that Maddie plays. So I can relate some. Everyone that is on the spectrum is different. Maddie's role was more on the severe side of the spectrum. It's not disrespectful to make a movie with people having roles as she did. I don't see where anyone is being made fun of.
@@inerdalicious I’m autistic, me and many others in the autistic community find it offensive. Here are some reasons why music is ableist 1. Sia teamed up with autism speaks to make the movie. Autism speaks is a hate group against autism and wants to cure it. If she did even a bit of research she’d know that the autistic community doesn’t like autism speaks. 2. Sia uses functioning labels. Those are offensive because people used those labels to insult us. 3. Sia’s movie also shows very dangerous ways to deal with an autistic person having a break down or panic attack, such as going on top of them and tightly holding on. That’s a terrible way to help an autistic person, or any person. 4. The way the character Music acts is very stereotypical. The way she acts is exactly how someone mocking autism would. 5.when the autistic community corrected her movie, sia said that they were wrong and she knew more about autism then autistic people themselves. 6. There are tons of bright colors and flashing lights, and that is a common trigger for autistic people. 7. It has a lot of misinformation in it. And how she showed Musics mind is inaccurate. 8. She claims she did three years of research but there’s tons of misinformation and offensive scenes with music, and how they talked about her. 9. She said she hired an autistic girl at first to play the role but she was too hard to work with. This made her situation even worse when it was proven that it was a lie, because years before the movie she said Maddie would be playing the role. I suggest watching a video review *from an autistic person* about Music.
*I just wanna know what’s up with Sia’s literal obsession with Maddie...I mean if the genders were different people would be uncomfortable. She’s clearly obsessed with making her a massive star.*
Maddie is an extremely talented girl and she’s super professional. It makes sense that Sia would want to work with her. It’s all in your mind. Don’t make up things to suit your narrative
It’s absolutely hilarious to see all these people only judging based off of the movie 😂 I am an autistic person, diagnosed at 19. I have a friend named Noah who is also autistic, and since it is a SPECTRUM, he acts like this. And yes, the whole scene with Music’s sister holding her down is bad. But if you haven’t seen the movie, you won’t understand how it works. Sia is very clearly trying to show the uneducated people (represented by Music’s sister) that doing that to an autistic person is terrible. Autism is a spectrum. It is foolish to say that “autistic people don’t act like this” because they can, and they do. It is a spectrum. Get educated before judging. PLUS: Sia did in fact apologize for the movie, people claim she didn’t.
