MUSICIANS ARE SCR*WED - I tested the ChatGPT for Music, Suno AI Music Generator 

Exactly it is just a tool. We have used teachers and priests or drugs for years. Let's stop the doom and gloom. Life has always been a mix of "fake" and always will. We pay others to do things all the time.

I think in the longterm, (I don't want this to trigger anybody reading this) but eventually, money will simply become fun coupons or pointless entirely. I know people at this moment are wanting to fight for their jobs, but if we can build a society where I don't have to whore myself out to tiktok algorithms in hopes of marketing my art, it sounds nice. This will only work in a world where Fusion reactors are a thing though and it causes a ripple effect all the way down the chain, making cost of life go down dramatically.

​@@RareBirdGames ok but yeah I totally agree. I don't see money being relevant in the next 30 to 40 years

​@@squarewheel9113Currency will never fully be phased out. What might happen is that the current leading class will become almost eternal in its position as their security only increases as time goes on. But, ultimately, someone will want to control what you get and how much of that you can get.

@@RareBirdGames u must REALLY trust the government, haven't u seen all the insane things they do? You truly believe everyone putting their lives in the hands of these people is a wise thing to do? lmao

Yeah. Making songs won't be the difficult part anymore but most likely something else will take its place.

I'm making 10 a day easy and several of them are bangers. The more you use it the better you get with prompts and remixes and lyrics. Sometimes it sounds kinda human like other times it don't. I got a banger banger yesterday it was crazy. Very catchy and unique. Could blow up

Yep. Regardless of your musical talent, a regular dude with no real skills clicking a prompt can get the same thing or even better with none of the work. Anyone who says it's just going to be another tool is coping. This is a straight up replacement.

all i understood that shitposting will become 10 times fun

Exactly and people say live music will still live bla bla. They dont understand that music is reduced to a basically worthless. Not many will be interested watching somebody play live something that is probably AI music.

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Out of curiosity, what makes music generation 10 times easier for a machine to understand than pictures?

@@danielsteinberg4941 Music is like mathematics, there are certain rules, structures, and mainly repetition, while a picture can be literally millions of unrelated things like a 3d render of a coffee mug, a classic painting of a forest from 1800, a polaroid of a cat, a beer company logo, a selfie of an astronaut resting on a beach, a tiled texture of a wall, etc. I used to dance and we created our choreography mainly dividing every song into 4-steps parts.

@@petitemasque5784 i def agree that music has a lot of structure akin to math, but the most impressive part to me about suno is the combination of this with timbre of the sounds/vocals/instruments and how this all works together within the context of the song. not to mention the mix/mastering aspect. id think music would be more difficult than pictures since it is temporal, but videos def seem more complex than music

@@danielsteinberg4941 Indeed Suno is amazing, I'm just surprised that professional AI music is coming now when we already have things that in my opinion are out of this world, like the upcoming Sora.

Much appreciated 🙏🏼

Some of the instrumentals I've heard have been immensely impressive actually...

It's good, I use it for background music but he's right it will never have soul

@@MrOneILoveALot You have no idea what you're talking about. None. I've heard blues songs generated by Suno that are absolutely amazing, plenty of creativity, soul, feeling, and originality. "Soul" is algorithmic, and if it's algorithmic it can be made and understood by AI.

@@MrOneILoveALot That's something a coping scared human would say. It's better than most.

We will see. In my ears it's not just there. If that happens than not only musicians but all humans are screwed.

I disagree musicians are toast too, unless they aren't generic. And guess what? Most post 2000 music is terribly generic. Especially those mumble rappers copying Future or Migos with an industry that normalised biting. Well good riddance to low talent I welcome AI competition if it means raising the bar for everything else

I think we are all toast. Musicians, artists, writers, lawyers, doctors, goodbye humans 🥲 We had a good run

@@MarcoCholo-iz9js Yeah and then when an original artist puts out an original album, I'll use AI to clone the style, release one Album a Day and generate 100x more money then he/she could.

Yes. Yes I was

​@@konvoswithkubotasir can i distribute my suno ai songs to distribution platforms like distrokid, tunecore and many more? is anyone known about that?

this was v3 he just got unlucky lol

😂 damn ill give it another try one of these days

@@konvoswithkubota hate yeah i hope you make another video with it, I will def watch it to hear your opinion on it

​@@konvoswithkubotasir can i distribute my suno ai songs to distribution platforms like distrokid, tunecore and many more? is anyone known about that?

almost everyone doesn't understand how AI actually works. It doesn't copy, or store data on images/video/music/text, etc... It processes patterns algorithmically into weight associates in a neural network (based off how our own brain works), those weights are connections between different concepts and prompts that you then use to recreate weighted patterns. None of the images, songs, text, videos, etc... reside in the data. It's like having an artist who can copy very well from visual memory, extrapolated to a higher degree.

@@Hosea405 bingo!!! Thanks for this cause a lot people don’t understand that

@@Hosea405 it doesn’t matter what we think, the us copyright office has made its stance clear. That’s why ai is banned in sync (movie soundtracks) you can’t own it legally. It’s also very easily detectable the copyright office and will soon have filters to detect ai. They probably already have it. It’s kinda pointless in the long term.

@@elijahtrenton8351 I mentioned copyright in my other comment. As far as easily detectable, that's up for debate depending on model. Keep in mind also, this is the worst it will be from here on out. There's also some indication by the copyright office that percentage of human guidance in the output could make it copyrightable... it's just a really hazy and gray area right now for modified output for example with ControlNet and such.

@@elijahtrenton8351 Just full of inaccuracies today huh? AI isn't banned in soundtracks, you just can't copyright it so studios don't bother with it. The detectability is extremely inconsistent, as even just a simple Google search would tell you. Human work has been flagged as AI-generated, and only 50% of AI output was flagged in real-world testing. AI image generation is extremely hard to identify as long as you have a decent model and don't display hands or other things diffusion models struggle with. Pointless in the long term???? It's taking over industries exceedingly fast to the point they've forecast millions will be replaced by 2030. Come on, at least do basic research.

I agree, I have yet to use AI in my composition and production process but will do in the future and I see AI as an extension of our creative potential as humanity 🎶

@@darrenjeromemusic my brother uses it to generate a tonne of drum breaks and samples that he can use to chop up or just to use as the icing on the cake on his beats, sometimes will Eq and filter them so that they’re very much in the background just to add some texture

Why not automate ChatGPT to use Suno to generate Song Ideas and Songs, then upload to streaming plattforms all automated. Then generating short videos for social media for promotion and luring people to the AI Music to generate streams and money. No need for quality checking, what sticks sticks.

@@immtonmischer hmm you should try it and see if it’s profitable, (you only make 0.0003 cents per listen on spotify), but I guess if you had thousands of songs out that could become an income at that point, and if you’re uploading to RU-vid as well

Yes a like minded person let’s be musical Ai friends

Only AI music? That's pretty heartless towards artists.

@@jewelthompson4210 I don't buy music anyway, besides that the music industry is like a corrupt mafia, the charts are rigged don't you know about how they operate?

Are you playing dumb or something? You do realize that a synthesizer isn't going to play any music until a person comes up with it and plays it on that synthesizer, right? And to be honest, synthesizers are really one of the reasons why music is degraded. Modern producers spend more time on sound textures and sound design than on the music itself.

Yeah a few of these AI companies have been stealing my content. Thanks for the update

Not only will they get rich, they will lock it down so it’s hard for anyone else to use.

ChatGPT sucks at writing lyrics it’s kind of easy to notice those - they utilize some words a lot especially about sea, echoes lol

Glad it’s just silly songs for now lol

well.its still a problem.dont think you even have the say when your not the one getting abused by a tool that nobody has options against it.if you suggest its ok to brush that issue off, then people should just be able to buy copyrights to a song and sell it for themselves

@@chrisgaming8846 the music industry has basically been doing that exact thing to artists since the beginning, not sure what you're on about there

@@DucklingChaos for some reason my edit didnt happen.what that meant was buy copyrights for free without any transactions.

@@DucklingChaos wow my comment dissapeared.wth.ofcourse you dont care about the ones get f on.huh.not your problem right?

@@chrisgaming8846 I'm not saying I don't care, but how I feel has no importance. AI is here regardless of what anyone thinks about it, so use it to your advantage

im not. im scared of this shit bro.

Thank God, the CEO of Spotify in the interview recently said that he will Allow AI content on the platform. Independent artist can make more money on Spotify then most other platforms

I am totaly not against AI music, is is very interesting. But what exactly do you mean with "creating music"? ^^ I mean if it comes to putting in a text describing a song you want the computer to compose for you, I wouldn't really say I created that song by doing so and click the start button afterwards. 😁 Feels much more like purchasing something, as you could also give the song description to a singer songwriter a band or a composer and let them do it. We would certainly not consider us creating music if we purchased it by someone else with musical skills, or would you? Computers are pretty nice in calculating for a while too. But having a computer never made me a mathematician. So why should having a program like this make me a musician. Isn't creating music something somehow about being able to put the notes together in a meaningful way by your own skills, either by profound knowledge of the theory, a very good intuition about it or a mixture of both? Gets interesting if someone uses the output not as is but for samples and collages, if you ask me.

@@samthesomniator When a musician uses a drum machine, he is using a dumb "AI". Suno is the new drum machine. If You owned the music that the drum machine created and you sang over, so to here. Suno allows you to add your on lyrics and it adds the flavour. I've done it, a semi-pro musician friend has done so. She is going to use her own lyrics, have Suno create the instrumentals from the lyrics, then remove the lyrics and perform the song herself. Basically she will trace on the semi-transparent canvas and claim the talent. She will own the final product. This, however, is just pretending AI hasn't arrived. Others wont bother doing the performances and will let AI carry the day. I've found songs on Suno that are so good they are now on my car driving playlist! I'd happily pay to buy them! People are free to split hairs and call AI creations art or just regurgitated reorganized sounds but the fact remains, musicians are done. Producers will be operating from some dusty museum as curiosities from the past.... OR... they'll join the rest of us creating music and sharing it on the open market. Same goes for actors. SORa, or some other variant will finally free us of their ilk. I imagine I'll be able to prompt SORA to give me a movie about [DESCRIPTION HERE] and ask it to give me a twist ending, or a happy ending, or make it a mini series... and it will be a unique experience that I will happily pay to watch. No Disney in sight, no pompous "celeb", no gender agenda or D.I.E agenda!

Hell, it could even be that AI will be a new audience that will like human art and buy it at some point.

how do you know that I am not an AI chatbot commenting on what you say? Am I an artist? How do you know? Sure you think you know now.... but in a very short amount of time, you will have no idea if I am real or not.

@@johnheart6890what's the difference?

@@chunkrecords one day you will know. But then it will be too late. If you can’t see the truth of that statement then you deserve everything that is coming to you.

Just a different type of artist

@@triforcelink If I get into an AI car programmed for race car driving, can you call me a race car driver? Keep in mind that I have never once raced my car and that without AI I know absolutely nothing about cars, racing, different types of track conditions, racing rules, relating to a crew etc. (millions of things that race car drivers KNOW and I know nothing; having absolutely no experience) Is all I have to do is sit in an AI race car and that makes me a race car driver? So a person who has never written a word of fiction in their life can ask AI to write 100 movie scripts, 50 grand novels, and 20 self help books can be called an author? All due to that persons prompts? You think of a detailed prompt that people would find interesting for an AI to explore- that is an author?

I found that focusing on instrumentals and mixing genres makes for some genuinely good tracks. It takes a while, but you can pull off a good song to add to a playlist. In general, the vocals are definitely the weak point. Also, you should pick the option to continue the song you just generated and type [outro] on the lyrics. It will give it an actual ending, and you can also extend the lyrics or change what it will say. Finally, just click on the option to get the full song, and you will get a higher quality version of the clips. It sounds much cleaner and better.

@@peregrine3400 yes but remember to use [ Prompt Here ] use these things on your keyboard [ ] for things like [Start Song] [Drum Fill] [guitar solo] ect. And [End Song] And use ( ) for backing vocals

There is still a misunderstanding on how these things actually work currently.

The difference is it’s a robot, ma’am.

sure, put them into LANDR or other AI mastering software

"the best song in the world were written by humans" as time goes on, the best songs will be written by AI thats almost a guarantee as AI can take the best dictionary words and put them together perfectly to make sense within a matter of seconds. AI FTW!

@@Jaccdno

i thought you will talk about chatgpt,..but you didnt ?

I agree haha

@@konvoswithkubota 😂