A lot of the strange requests by artists such as brown M&M’s, snakes, mustard etc are put into the contract to make sure it is read completely, covering issues such as safety requirements for electronic loads and whatnot.
@@KCNYC Don't be fooled into thinking they aren't difficult... I've worked with and put shows on for many bands over the years, and one thing is a common occurrence... Massive egos. The bands often don't give a shit about the contract as long as they get their needs met. It's an unfortunate truth. Managers and promoters, not so much, but the band, yes. Of course i'm talking about bands who havn't 'made it' yet in comparison to the likes of led zeppelin and such. Which probably makes up 99.9% of artists. edit: Mind you, i've delt with some 'larger' bands who were honestly much easier to deal with than most artists.
Keith Moon, Bill Wyman, Charlie Richards, Mick Jagger, Marilyn Manson, GG Allin, Iggy Pop, Alice Cooper, Lemmy Killmeister, Anthony Keidis, Flea... jeeeeez you had so many to choose from and just didn't.
Well you know peanut butter can choke you if you eat too much and don't have something to drink. Maybe Crue was interested in new ways to get a near death experience. Or maybe into some kinky stuff.
I remember watching a retro story on Jefferson Airplane when they had bounced back, most had gotten sober and it was the beginning of the Starship era. I'm pretty sure it was after Grace Slick had been booted and still was persona non grata in the band, since she still hadn't hit rock bottom. Again, if my memory serves me it was founding member Marty Balin who, referring to just how much Slick had debased and defiled herself as a human being in front of the whole band and crew, said that he wouldn't even let her give him a blow job. Boy did that catch my attention. Partying hard is one thing but you have to show some respect and dignity for yourself as a human being.
@TheRealCritique Good one. Nice play on words. Born in the '50s, i grew up in the '60s with an unusual awareness of the whole world around me. I remember well Woodstock as day 3 of it fell on my birthday and i knew that the super popular bands were beyond the fringe re : taking the sexual favors and excessive drugs that their fans were only so happy to offer. There really were no differences between the behaviors of male and female band members. In fact, as bad as Grace Slick was, for every one of her there were a dozen male band members in groups like Led Zeppelin (especially Jimmy Page), Motley Crue, Van Halen's David Lee Roth, etc. who were just as bad if not worse than Slick. The band member's sex (ie. male or female) really played no difference in their excessive drug and sexual liberties . I still don't understand how Eric Clapton and Elton John didn't kill themselves on vast amonts and virtually 24 hours a day of extreme abuse of heroin and cocaine but am happy that they did survive. In my humble opinion, it was just more a matter that females (including Ann Wilson of Heart) disrespecting themselves drawing more attention. Look at those that we did lose to drug abuse and/or suicide. Considering their much lower percentage representation in rock, there were far more females who OD'd or outright committed suicide. Rockers just have too much free time on their hands, too much money, too many lackeys and hangers on who enable and who feed their ego's telling them that they're the real star in a band and should get special treatment. Heck, every member of Aerosmith is a now sober alcoholic. They even have written into their concert tour contracts that there has to be an alcoholics anonymous support group at arms length, as it were, in every city that they perform in. No, there's no difference between the male and female uber successful group members. Only the appearance of such.
Actually Kid Rock is known to be a decent dude. He’s left a trail of Do-gooder stories at a lot of cities. He just doesn’t advertise it. The bad boy image sells more.
He played a concert in Iraq for us while we were deployed in 2009 and he not only put on a really great show, he played for 3 hours straight and then he stayed in the mwr tent for another 3 hours signing autographs and posing for pics.
And when they die, all of their fans will say, "Now he's jammin' with so-and-so in heaven..." RU-vid "I saw John Lennon in Hell," and consider who you consider "idols."
Grace Slick and Jim Morrison were never a couple. The Airplane and the Doors did a one time tour and by all accounts the two bands did not like each other at all.
Love your comment here Darrylizer1... I agree Kid Rock couldn't whip his way out of a wet paper bag. His body guards and money are always out front for him. Big Mouth ~No Balls!!!
Lots of bands put ridiculous requests down to see if the venue actually read them. That's where Van Halen got the idea of having venues take out the brown M&M's.
Rumor has it that Grace Slick was much worse than portrayed in this vid. It is said that she once took a magic marker and Wrote "=16" behind a SUV's "4X4 " sign....WHAT a hateful little hussey! Ozzy Osbourne is believed to have peed in his pants at least four times a day in his final years, because he had lost his brains doing all these drugs earlier in his life.....pure evilness, right? Kid Rock once finished a jigsaw puzzle in only 4 years although it said 6-8 years on the box, that cold bastard. Mötley Crüe once threw a letter without a stamp into a mailbox. They waited until late at night, when no one was around. Pretty slick, eh?
Re: Motley Crue, I don't regard a request to know the local AA meetings as being excessive. When it comes to "riders" - it's usually to check that the venue has read everything that the band requires to do the gig. They know if they get an excuse as to why a 12ft snake was not available, at least the venue management have read through everything that was requested by the band and the stuff that they actually need should be there for them.
I was a touring musician for national acts in the late 90s and early 2000s and a lot if the crazy stuff bands want back stage is just ti make sure the riders “ band requests “ are actually read.
What, nothing about Lynyrd Skynyrd?? Ronnie Van Zant knocked out the front teeth of their piano player, and sliced up the hands of Gary Rossington with a broken bottle...BEFORE a gig!
@@guitarguy382 lol... yeah but when he WOKE up, you'd better get into the Witness Protection Program! This story gives you a good idea of how he was... www.loudersound.com/features/lynyrd-skynyrd-fight-club Another musical thug was Roger Daltrey of The Who...at least in their early days, before the rest of the band threatened to replace him unless he changed his attitude!
Then we have Johnny Ramone, who, like Ronnie Van Zant, would assault the other members if he'd felt their playing wasnt up to snuff, or if they were too F'd up on stage
Two guys tried to imitate Ozzy by also snorting ants. However, they picked wrong species of ant. They snorted Fire Ants. Killed them deader than disco.
Ozzy didnt pee on the Alamo he was just drunk as piss... Its an urban legend... They did a record lookup on his arrest in San Antonio and he was arrested for public intoxication
The reason some of these bands asked for such outrageous items is so that they knew they're safety guides were missed (because stages aren't safe unless they're put together correctly and pyrotechnics are handled correctly). There have been a lot of things go wrong that coulda been avoided with the right crew and rider rules.
Who the fuck wants to be old and sober rotting away in hospital waiting room and old folks homes. Not me! At 53 i will definitely die young with a beer in my hand doing what I love. Drinking Beer!
Eh... I was a groupie for decades and actually up until I was 49 when I met my hubby. And this was metal and includes Motley Crue. And never seen anyone go wild. And as a few people pointed out..some of the odd requests are to see if promoters were paying attention. In fact I have been around for some of the most mundane stuff you can think off. Phone calls to mom. I have wrapped birthday presents for someone's mom for mothers day. I was on the tour bus with 3 thrash metal bands as we toured the Biltmore Estate in Ashville NC. I was a travel agent and helped someone plan their family vacation to Disney. I used to date someone in a well known metal band and they toured with Testament. I was in college and when I went to visit this singer and he was busy, Chuck Billy would quiz me for upcoming exams. And when I was on the Monsters of Rock cruise, I was a tax preparer and ended up doing 3 different musicians tax returns. Just boring stuff.
Why would anyone admit to being a groupie? "Yeah, I was a pathetic, clingy chick that did anything I could to be around famous guys in bands, and I'd do anything they'd ask me to do, like a loyal little dog."
Late 80s early 90s the 95 south run had many layovers in Jacksonville FL. Thrill Kill Kult, Pigface, lords of acid, juggernaut, dead Milkmen, living color, faith no more, PRIMUS, tad, melvins, ween. All either stayed with my friends or at my place. At the end of shows they would ask around for places to stay. Some partied hard some not so much but all were decent people.
Kid Rock isn't that bad. I worked on one of his music videos. At the end I asked if I could get an autograph. He said, "Well, I have to catch a plane." As I was walking away, one of his handlers said, "Sorry." I said, "Oh I couldn't care less about Kid Rock, it was for an eight year old boy that is standing outside the trailer." He told what's his name and he signed the autograph for the boy.
In the early 70's when Zeppelin played in Tampa the had an entire top floor of the hotel where my mom was the general manager. I forget how big the check was that their management company wrote but there was a lot of damage. The C & W stars and bands where never a problem.
Sharon Ramone The joke is that the guys in Hollywood are the degenerates and the rock stars are safe. I guess I should have been more clear about that for some of you...
@KAV SOLO all I ever heard was about members of Airplane and the Doors walking in the streets of Amsterdam, with Slick noting that fans gave them drugs, they'd pocket them, and Jim taking them on the spot.
There was one band, I think it was Van Halen, that supposedly had it in their contract that they couldn't be served any red M&Ms. When some of the offending candies turned backstage they trashed the dressing room & refused to play or something like that. Don't remember all the gory details. This was brilliantly parodied in Spinal Tap when Nigel got all bent out of shape over "miniature bread".
Kid rock was exactly correct in that any previous incidences for which you were charged or convicted are inadmissible in court when on trial for another, different case. What you did in the past has no bearing on what you're being charged for in the present.
One of the many times I saw Crue, Nikki approached a fan that was pulling on Vince's scarf (Theater of Pain tour) and slammed his bass off the fans head. Lynn Manning Bowl. Aug 3rd 1985
I don't know anything about Kidd Rock, except I like his music. Just reading all these comments over people getting all worked about people they don't know personally. It's weird.
@@jonathanarent3363 ::::: He's actually just a typical party dude from nowhere Romeo Michigan. Like the guys just hang out in the backyard around a bonfire an drink beer and talk shit. Nothing wrong with that. HE just figured a way to be in the spot light.
fun factoid; before achieving fame as Motley crue the band was known briefly as " Motley Stew" and their stage act included the band dressing as various meats and vegetables.
Meh she's kinda absolutely right about the more marijuana vs alcohol......says I while having another glass of vodka......I'm from Canada, growing up, the easiest substance to acquire was marijuana.....it was illegal, but there were plenty of schoolmates selling it. It seriously was easier than getting cigarettes. As an adult, I've tried and got hooked on too many things and I can honestly say that legal marijuana is helping me. I'm cutting back on everything else and knowing exactly what I'm smoking helps a lot.
A roadie who toured with all those long haired, spandex wearing divas and the who said THE worst, biggest nightmare band he'd ever roadied were the Happy Mondays lol proper lads and genuine scallies
Hard to separate the people who acted up because that's who there are / were from the people who felt it was part of being the 'rock star' they were supposed to be. Rush outlived the vast majority of these specimens without trashing a single hotel room or getting into the ridiculous feuds that were often manufactured by PR shitheads to generate interest in a band. In any case, I doubt that Ozzy can recall a single second from 1981 right through to yesterday ;)
By the time they had morphed into 80s soft rock balladeers, they had changed their name from 'Jefferson Airplane', to 'Jefferson Starship' to just 'Starship'. It was under that last name that they cursed the world with the pasteurized, processed cheezy spread known as "We Built This City". It was quite possibly the most annoying song society was ever exposed to!
@@calebfuller4713 Ironically, I was just watching a clip from the original Top Gear program(the British version) just seconds before I read your post. The irony is that I had NO idea who Ed Sheeran was until I'd seen him on an episode of that show a few years ago. However, even after watching him being interviewed on Top Gear, I still didn't know what he did, or why he was famous, until months later. That's when I finally heard his name linked to a pop song that had just played on our most horrible top 40 radio station that I had mistakenly tuned in to! I will say that, unlike many of today's pop stars, Sheeran seems like a really good person. Unfortunately that quality of character doesn't equate to good songs. They mostly still suck, just like almost everything else in the modern pop genre that's come out since the late 90s....
Sometimes (sometimes) that eccentric requirements are just the test for promoters that the contractor read the contract in full. Just like separating M&Ms in colours i.e. Tina Turner instead, always asked for a huge number of towels....not for fun, but just to be sure her crew always had a clean and dry towel to use when on set at work.
This all so tame. Seriously, who hasn't ever peed on a police car? At one gig I played, I later watched Paul Baloff (late singer for Exodus, R.I.P Paul!) line up beer bottles behind a police car and proceed to kick them at the back window of the patrol car. Unfortunately, these particular cops were being extremely cool and were currently inside the building just asking the owner to make sure to clean up the parking lot and to card the minors. Needless to say, they were not so cool after they came back to the patrol car.
its time to stop calling yourself "kid" when you're a 48-year-old washed out musician that had one radio hit. BooYaa Tribe? Wow, that's a name I haven't heard since 1993, they were on the judgment night soundtrack or some shit lol
Everything we see the space cadets from the entertainment industry get up to is clever & colourful.Letting off steam on their downtime at NASA..... Astronauts,sit read & listen to music.Oh,& they hurl through space strapped to steel & shake hands with infinity!
@@valeriepickens2533 It would be impossible to list everyone. And if you read the caption its "ON THE ROAD/TOUR" of course wll bands have their storied but I have to say these are the most "popular" stories from the road
@@jojox9791 if you knew shit about rock bands, you would know that these guys don't act that way at home,...so " on tour, or on the road" doesn't mean shit. As far as popularity, only you and a handful of bubblegummers would give a shit. The rest of us don't let radio DJ's an executive's pick our music.
@Stephanie Logan Yep. I saw the documentary. He's also still an amazingly good drummer. I saw him 5 years ago. He's wheezing when talking and walking slowly from emphysema, but when he picks up those sticks, he has the energy of a kid.
Despite alcohol and drugs played a huge part in the creation of amazing compositions, anthems and lyrics, it also played a huge part in the destruction and the demise of bands and talented musicians.
We're just people with a love of and a talent for music. We entertain because we love it. The music moves our souls! How the audiences views us is up to them.
John O I don’t know about that, like Jimmy Page did keep a 14 year old groupie with him and had a major heroin problem from 75 until around 1983 and John Bonham downed a little over a liter of vodka, roughly 35-40 shots the day he died and that’s coming from the autopsy report. They were wild.
Proud of our boys from RUSH who NEVER embarrassed themselves like this, smoked a little hash and drank a little wine, focused on MAKING MUSIC every day!
We bilked this city? ....this milk is 'iffy'?..... My girl says can't you let a song go by without dicking with it, and sadly I guess not, as now I am writing about it also.
They put the goofy shit in the rider to make sure the venue is paying attention. I need a couch a buffet and some beer and wine doesn't get met so I ask for those plus a bowl of only green m&m's my dressing room to be painted sky blue and a Navajo spirit guide. Suddenly I get my couch, buffet and booze.
Slash or Nikki Sixx? Because I know Nikki Sixx died and was revived after a heroin overdose, but I have never heard those stories about Slash. ( And before anyone comments on it, yes I know they are from two different bands.)
I feel for the managers who have to get these hard partiers to the airport or onto the buses on time or clean up their, literal messes, God bless them. Thankless job.
I think you know very well that these stars are tortured forever and are trying to escape this. The old saying “Fame comes with a price” is all to real for them. Hope you are staying safe. Cheers
