Must Women Keep Silent? What Were Jesus' and Paul's Actual Views of Women in the Church? 

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@@aadilharoon1807 why not?

@@aadilharoon1807 Agreed. Once she went giddy for the lesbian bishop, I knew that I had to unsubscribe. Megan LOVES Christianity...but only if it rejects the whole of the Bible and tradition.

@@Charlotte_Martel Wow, that's not only incorrect, it's harsh. Not very Christian of you!

whoever wrote it it's IN the Bible and has been worshipped as such well over a millennium. saying "somebody else wrote it" isn't an excuse

@@scambammer6102 75% of the stockholders of the U.S. energy industry do not pay their taxes in the USA.

@@scambammer6102 Talkin' to ya, bud.

@@scambammer6102 - A bit blindly naïve are we? You would rather follow along after what some 12th Century scribe, sitting in his cell somewhere with ink-stained fingers, decides on his own should be included in the Book of Whomever, then to follow the real teachings of the real Disciples? That seems to be a lazy way of thinking.

@@MossyMozart that's just precious. A dolt who thinks they know "the real teachings of the real disciples" is calling me naive. You don't get any more clueless than that. Thanks for the laugh retRd.

But were women empowered in Hellenic society? Greco-Roman society was misogynistic!

And in a weird was continued to be empowered in a small way by the monastic system. It's a very complicated relationship.

How women fared, as with all social identities, has always been linked to their economic positioning. The way these types of contradictions played themselves out in Christianity is no different from other religions in general.

@@tenmanX Yes, but in the West it was Christianity that had the most effect on society.

I'm just gonna tell you this and I hope you listen to me very carefully, before Jesus christ, woman wouldn't be able to sit in the same place in the church with men, But Jesus christ is the first who made woman his disciples and all others only allowed men, Jesus christ is the one who made woman have fair lives with men, if not from Jesus christ, woman would've been slaves to men still, but Jesus christ came to set the captives free, And people still say bad things about Christianity, Why don't people criticize other religions also for their ways of treating, Islam for example? They hit woman to death for not wearing hijab? Why don't people say nothing about that?

It mainly proves that you cannot make facts from opinion..... This is man's book... Not God!

St Paul the misogynist has so much influence on the New Testament, which doesn't actually support Jesus Christ's teachings🧐

The religious men cherry-pick what verse tells them they have the upper hand; them learning a new perspective isn't going to happen🤦 Look how the majority of religious males act with the equal rights for women in America😠 They're not going to give away their patriarchy 😆

Not only that to the women who also uphold these teachings blindly.

@@dugebuwembo I think the reason the woman hold to them teaching this blindly is because the men do 😓 Maybe they're afraid that if they assert themselves they'll lose their men 🤔

in the Bible, the HEART (Eve) is the woman taken out of Adam (mind) so they could come to KNOW each other face to face: The sex has nothing to do with woman because it is the HEART of both sexes that need to come together again now that the END of the EGO has come: woman=magnetic energy man=electrical energy that have to BALANCE together for the EXPERIENCE of WHOLENESS (HOLINESS): Sorry nobody told anybody???? Christianity and Judaism HYJACKED the truth on how to be FREE and made them into religions to control the masses so they would not get FREE: RE-LEGION (becoming legion/MANY, again and again): remaining in EXILE!!! the MEANS FOR CONNECTING TO HASHEM are within you and you don't need religion to become free but you do NEED a DESIRE FOR MESSIAH or the ANOINTING that is within you and must RISE TO CONNECT your consciousness to God (Hashem, Christ, Allah) whatever you call that higher consciousness: NO RELIGION is going to take you there because HASHEM is a JEALOUS God and will only reveal himself to INDIVIDUALS and NOT to religions in all fairness and justice, people need RELIGION till they find the DESIRE IN THEM for Messiah, just as it is written, when DESIRE COMES, it is a TREE OF LIFE: Even as deferring the HOPE for Messiah makes the heart sicker and sicker: Pro 13:12 Hope deferred makes the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life. if any of you watched THE LORD OF THE RINGS (I just got around to it a few weeks ago) the ring that makes everyone evil, the RING OF DESIRE TO CONTROL all other rings, is RELIGION: I saw it immediately: ONLY THE PURE IN HEART can handle religion without it destroying them: That ring had to be taken back to the FIRE in which it is forged by a pure heart (FROTO) because everyone else wants to CONTROL OTHERS with religion instead of helping them to be FREE of it and thereby free of EVIL that religion DEFINES but never overcomes, never ever ever: the DESIRE for Messiah is Elijah (his God is YAH) which resurrects your conscience (MOSES) that is drawn up and out of the water by the ANOINTING (Christ, Messiah, the OIL OF HANNUKKA that must rise in you to cleanse your heart (temple) that Hashem wants to live in: Everyone wants somebody else to do it: don't waste anymore time giving your attention to people (ALL RELIGIOUS LEADERS) who themselves are NOT ANOINTED so they can't really speak from that CONNECTION (dveikut, yichud) with Hashem: if any of you watched THE LORD OF THE RINGS (I just got around to it a few weeks ago) the ring that makes everyone evil, the RING OF DESIRE TO CONTROL all other rings, is RELIGION: I saw it immediately: ONLY THE PURE IN HEART can handle religion without it destroying them: That ring had to be taken back to the FIRE in which it is forged by a pure heart (FROTO) because everyone else wants to CONTROL OTHERS with religion instead of helping them to be FREE of it and thereby free of EVIL that religion DEFINES but never overcomes, never ever ever: just looked up Froto and it means "A RUB" and again, I see the ANOINTING that must be rubbed on the INSIDE of the head (SKULL, KETER) so the anointing can cover the earth (your brain) like the waters (LIVING WATERS is the anointing) cover the sea (subconscious): There is so much to get through by just learning how to RAISE THE OIL within, or raising MESSIAH IN YOU, that religion makes it seem you are doing something when you are spinning your wheels round and round, but not HIGHER AND HIGHER like Jacob's LADDER:

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Yes! I agree about the volume. Dr. Ehrman is always difficult to hear.

Megan isn't an atheist and there are probably several people who watch this kind of stuff who aren't as well. I'm not a fan of people pretending to derive their ethics from the Bible either. But so long as they're going to do so, it would be better if we had discussions like the one in the video to help steer such people away from fundamentalism.

So you no longer believe in God?

What was Peter doing with a Sword?

@@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373 not sure. Seems Jesus warned the apostles of the danger that was coming for him. check out Luke 22:36-38 and Luke 22:49-51. Also Matthew 26: 33-35 and Matthew 26:51-54, and also John 18:1-12. Read surrounding verses for context. Perhaps he wanted to protect himself and the others, or maybe some other reason. It really doesn't say too much about his motivations or thoughts on why he carried the swords other than Jesus suggested it.

@@ktownjunkie think he was talking about them getting swords when he’s gone. As he didn’t want any violence to take place and choose to lay his life down.

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I think it's studied quite a bit. The trouble is the vast majority are people who are very biased toward distorting it until everything fits their preconceived notions. It's been amazing to me just how different these books are if they aren't assumed to be in inspired, perfect agreement.

It's spread to the comments, even. Part of your comment is really loud and another part is either fancy or sneaky, I'm not sure.

Fuckin got em

My grandpa has a RU-vid channel, too

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It's had a huge effect on the development of Christianity and thus on the culture especially of Europe, both historically and even in the modern day. We don't have to conform to it ourselves, but it's useful to know how we got here. And of course, there are still many people who do care about what Paul wrote.

When he does mention Palestine, he emphasizes that he is not taking sides in the Israel-Palestine-Gaza mess. He's probably gotten a ton of flak on the subject. UuFdA6u-B1rerJIS

Hello Diana, I’m glad that somebody finally replied to my inquiry. It seems that Dr. Ehrman chose to remain tight lipped on the matter. I understand that he is under terrific pressure from the powers that be to do a terminology switch from “Palestine” to “Israel”. He wants to do it quietly and without publicity because a lot of publicity may raise doubts about his academic credibility. If he caved in to manipulation on this matter we can’t be sure of the number of times he caved in previously. It seems that falsification of history hasn’t taken place only during the early history of Christianity but during our time and under our own eyes. Special interest groups have put their own spin on the historical narrative throughout history something which makes deciphering factual history an impossible task. One point I’ like to bring to your attention Diana is that Dr. Ehrman terminology switch took place long before the current war in Gaza and that he never claimed to be neutral on the Palestine issue.

@ElinT13 this children of god idea has to be rethought. We share 98.7% or near of our dna with chimps, 50% with a blade of grass, etc. We are children of our ancestors that survived natural selection over the last milliion + years. Another idea, courtesy of Hubble, is that god created the world and then waited 13.7 billion years to demand that you worship him

That is a very modern view. The writers of the bible would probably think you are crazy.

It was deeply closeted.

Big into helmet worship

Just figured it out…Assyriology…I’ll losing it, lol! Very interesting presentation!

I think you accidentally put your Google search into a RU-vid comment.

Yeah, my bro's mate's cousin's baby daddy is named Junius, so it's actually a contemporary name.

Sure, but Junias was not.

I think so.

I think so too, but I think plenty can also be set at the feet of the influence of Judaism (and it's predecessors) and many contemporary cultures and societies in that corner of the world during the Bronze and early Iron ages. One need not look to hard in the writings of the old testament to see women were often thought of as unclean and subject to constant ritual purity requirements and repression.

Thank you, Jess and Doug. I wonder then how much of the Jewish piece Doug mentioned might be an import, perhaps from the Greeks or the Babylonians during their respective periods of dominating the Levant.

Well original sin is defined by Christianity as women enjoying sex

If you look at how trauma functions, you can see that sometimes people who have experienced abuse can go on to manifest the same abusive behavior towards others. My read on Paul is that he was very much in line with the grifting preachers we see today. Your Greg Lockes, your Robin Bullocks etc. etc. These people tend to be narcissistic and controlling, sometimes even violent. If we apply this abusive cult leader model to Paul it's not hard to see how the people who took up his torch, whoever they were, could have been emulating the same kinds of attitudes and behaviors he expressed. And, given that these types of cults tend to attract people who are already exploited or vulnerable in some capacity, it's not too much to imagine that they brought a lot of their own pre-existing baggage to this messed up dynamic. I see tell-tale signs of trauma all over the new testament. We'll never really have a full grasp on the reality of the situation back in the first century. Heck, we don't even know where or when Paul died nor who carried on his work after. There's a hundred year gap between Paul and the earliest church fathers. But I think we can and should do more than take these characters at face value.

A Debate would be a good idea if there's an academic who can challenge Dr. Ehrmann with evidence, otherwise it will be just like any other "average Joe" debate!

@@seekfactsnotfiction9056 Plenty of very good Oxbridge scholars who may be interested. In Manchester though please, we have P52 like I said.

@@pinball1970 Excellent. Looking forward to it. I love debates and enjoy them.

She needs a co-host named Paul to have "The Ashurbanipal Show with Paul and Megan".

The nuns in some cases have served the priests as they were his brothel and then be put under an oath of silence. The babies conceived could meet with a tragic end. All in all, why a woman would want to be Catholic is not by choice but being raised thinking this is the One True Church from childhood.