Mutinying Russian conscripts surround general and shout 'Shame on you' 

This is an absolute truth statement.

I read exactly this in an old manual from WW1. It compared weak officers to school teachers that could not get the respect of the kids.

Los soldados alemanes siempre tuvieron esa mística a pesar que el enemigo los superaba en número

for a better world you need a coup d'etat in Russia

In Italy I have many Russian friends who hate Putin

Well, none of them wants to be there. Not even the generals.

No commitment at all.

No commitment at all.

More like complete failure of the entire government

Looks like Putin is just getting what he deserves!

He has probably NEVER faced any enemy; he will be an apparatchik for the party.

@@andrewstackpool4911 You could be right. Then again, he could have dropped barrel bombs on Syrian citizens

@@gregparrott Or most likely stayed warm and cosy while others did. You know. General Melchett and all that.

Not troops citizens

That was beautiful 👏👏👏👏👏

They would probably be arrested and serve prison time if they do go home! And likely will be abused and humiliated by the prison officials, guards and FSB there! There is strength in the crowd like this, but later you are alone! That's the reality!

Si así va a ser 😭😭😁🤣🤣🤣

I would be proud of them if they, wouldn't let themselves be drafted. Nobody still was jailed for refusing to be mobilized. They protest only because they didn't get their money, not because they will kill Ukrainians

They are protesting because they are not well equipped and payed to kill Ukrainians in Ukraine. Not because they don’t want to fight in the senseless war.

Russian General at a warm place, soldier suffering / Putin at warm place, population eating grotesque propaganda whit the conséquences 🤔 🤔

@@aslanmonahov6238 this is very sad, but true.

@@aslanmonahov6238 Those who are jailed are still drafted, its a lose lose

Sun Tsu

Atatürk

That's why every nation always claims war to be for self defense, no matter the real reason. Russia does this, the USA does this. Ah wait, the USA calls it "protecting American interests abroad".

Also "Don't wait for your potential ennemies to get the high ground."

He did say for the DEFENSE. Now is there any serious human being in here that things Ukraine would attack Russia>? Pretty much Greece will be the next victim against Turkey. Same scenario

Isnt that what americans do tho

@@DECIMATOR69 Isnt it a miserable existence to know that your 15 minutes of fame will never amount beyond spreading Russian propaganda on social media for worthless rubles tho?

@@logangx9319 first of all i am not russian but i am from a country that has seen what americans do in war and how they do it and you cant deny that they arent any better in fact probably worse and second isnt what you are doing right now spreading westerns/nato propaganda?

Those rotten z-ombies don't care about the war--they just want supply and ammunition.

@@DECIMATOR69 "I'm not from Russia" *proceeds to shill for russia* Hope they're not paying you in rubles boris.

No.

@@boombyte8849 yes.

We can only hope!

Russian Army Handbook, rule#1: lie to your men

@@user-cx2bk6pm2f lmao

It has been made clearly abundant during this war that Russian officers and the country's leadership have absolutely no respect for their enlisted men. Treating them like idiots and cannon fodder. When was the last time you saw Putin standing in a flak jacket being hugged by his troops? Surrounded by his soldiers? Right. Never.

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Especially, don't lie to a man with a gun in his hand.

I appreciate your grammar, too.

Yup . Military brat here .

@@slapukaz Mighty fine of you to say, Friend. Thank you!

Look, ya'll have Army, Navy, Marines, Feds-state-county-city et cetera and no one is being sent in as a newbie for war related stuff. What Putin did, he sent 300k men without training to satisfy his Trumpish egomaniacism.

This is seismic. A 21st century analogue to the Russian battleship Potemkin mutiny.

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They are not protesting against the war, they are protesting against the fact that they have created uncomfortable conditions for the preparation of the murder of Ukrainians! Do you respect it?

@@HelloHello-ho8mh Bot or not, that channel has some pretty funny India videos that show the exact opposite of what INDIA SUPER CLEAN's post claims.

@@indiasuperclean6969 Not even Columbus liked India. He stopped in the Americas!

Iran people show bravery. These however just miserable slaves with chaotic complain, not minding to fight generally. Westerns have to stop believe in primitive illusions about Ruz.

Hi, Marine for five magical years. To answer your question, at least from my experience in the American military, no definitely never even heard of a break down of command this intense. infact, I've never heard of a lower ranking guy saying any sort of expletive to a general. I am curious to ask the vietnam veterans though, but I've never heard of it in the modern military which is what makes this so insane.

Die for NATO then choose

Don't die for the terrorist USA either

YER YOUR RIGHT KEEP AWAY FROM UKRAINE. DONT GO TO UKRAINE

But dying for NATO is okay

@@trifulquita15 Good thing no one is dying for NATO in this war then.

It's ONLY 80,000 dead Russians later.

👍🏻

Well. Yes and no. They've realized how they are being treated, and that they are many. The general seems to had called them "dirty as pigs" before, while not giving them proper equipment, facilities to wash themselves and their clothes, outlets for anything in the encampment. The thing is, nothing is ready for this amount of troops. And I'm not trying to somehow whitewash all this war but the commanders should had seen this draft coming for several months, yet they didn't even bother to make simple accomodations for their troops. So they're basically trying to tell the draftees that they're expendable and not even worth humane treatment. It's all rotten.

Yeah.., but no. Rather some runaZZorcs only protesting because they didn't get their money(!), not because they will kiII Ukrainians! ruSSia is such a SSupper-power 😱

Maybe some. Others mostly unhappy about the lack of promised payment.

This is probably the most intelligent comment there will ever be in the youtube comments on a Sun video

@@nana-uj2yz You guys should get married 😍

All three of you are correct.

@@nana-uj2yz LMFAO I agree

@@nana-uj2yz okay if that's the most intelligent comment... What's the most intelligent question... Could it be... Should the sun upload page 3 videos? 🤔

I was surprised they didn't beat him

Squeaky bum time

He isnt a general. He just a corruptor in the army.

@@axis1662 Well that's allot of man to talk back to,they will beat him to death.U can see it on his face,fear of his life.

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When the French fought their last battle in VN (just before the Yanks unwittingly took over), the French commanding officer was a long distance away. The VC had parked their big guns in the hillside brush surrounding the French position - which was down in a valley. You can guess which side got creamed.

@@brahmburgers ---Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the same thing happen at Kah San, also directed by Vietnamese Genera Giap?

@@stormywindmill What the hell does that have to do with the Ukraine war? Why even mention something that’s not relevant. Also do you think that this condones that sort of behaviour just because of what’s happened in the past? 2 wrongs don’t make a right. So wash your dirty mouth out before I do it for you

@@brahmburgers What the hell does this have to do with the Ukraine war? You need to see a doctor asap

@@memorystyles5006 it highlights the same topic, command issues and incompetence

Well, they seem to have no problem to go and kill innocent people, if they're were properly equipped and paid at all.

@@skankhunt420 They are soldiers of a totalitarian regime. You cannot blame their naivety; many of them knew nothing else before coming to Ukraine facing their neighbours on the front line. These conscripts are there against their will most of the time. You need to turn your anger towards the leadership; the generals and Putin.

How long before these conscripts turn their guns on their commanding officers? In a field, no one will know who shot whom and for what.

@@graphite282 Let us hope it comes to this. That would be poetic justice and although they would face procecution from Russia, they would probably be regarded as heroes in the west.

​@@kristiankajhoj this is a very naive discussion, if you knew a little more about Russia, you would not write this, most of them there voluntarily came to, and they are not against the killing of Ukrainians, they only complain that they are poorly provided and used as meat, plugging holes in front.

If every soldier decides to just go home, the world will be a much better place.

@@tammyleung7578 "Let's go home" is indeed the scariest warcry a disconnected general or warhawk politician can hear. It means they didn't inject enough brain rot to get them ready to impale themselves against the enemy.

"Show me your warface!" *steps into Lada and drives home*

They all have family at home and can't trust that their pay is getting to them. Hell that one place thought it was a big deal that families would get fish and flour. Holy Crap! You gonna die for that?!

@@tammyleung7578 Only in some Utopian country! Every country needs military defence!!

100% truth

But war is harsh everywere in this world physically and mentally. What could anyone expect better conditions from this stupid war?!. Winter is just around the corner...

You Will them protesting soon for that too.

Not sure. Some of them would but not all, far from that. Why would they risk their life when their homeland's peace and security is unchallenged ? Didn't you hear that shout : down with putin's regime ? It was loud and clear. The situation in Ukraine can be summarised : a steely will to fight on one side, no will to fight on the other side.

You are a clown you live in your own fantasy

PUTIN KAPUT 1000%%

This is Kazan, they are Tatars mostly. Russians are much more obedient.

Maybe it's a other way around? Do you ever question your own government? Or it's just easier to blame the other side, that's just easier to do. I'm following both sides, following journalists, especially independent from West. No one questioned why people at the Donbas was shelled for 8 years? Answer me why at the February 24th was so many foreign military in the Ukraine? Did you learned in school what happened in Cuba? Do you know that the NATO was formed as an answer to the Warsaw pact, Warsaw pact seized to exist '89 but NATO was expanding and expanding even though there was a deal not to expand. Do you know that the US have the law that no country in the North America cannot be part of any alliance except for the NATO? 2008 nato publicly said that the plan is to bring in Ukraine and Georgia? Did you know that 2014 legally elected president was illegally impeached with the help of the foreign agencies? Russia said you can join the EU, just give full autonomy to the DNR, LNR and don't join the NATO. This is classic proxy war. Find the list of the wars that US was involved after the WWII and do you know that people killed in those conflicts are higher than allied losses in the WWII? Soooo leave the propaganda at the side and try to know the real truth. Sure Putin is not good, but western leaders are way worse. And I'm not picking the sides here, my side is peace but for peace you need all sides to agree to. Don't forget that. Ukr is saying unreasonable things, they are asking for Russian to let go all the regions and then they will talk about the peace, that means - no talks. Did you know that Putin launched preemptive strike? 7 days was needed for Ukraine to attack DNR and LNR, the plan was to do ethnic cleansing and they stopped that, that's why there was so many troops during the beginning. Are you aware of everything that I said now? Just please be realistic and do proper research, please! We need normal voices on both sides if we want to see the peace talks. Peace is n1 priority! But military industrial complex is massively profiting from this, every army that sent old weapons will buy new, who's profiting? Turn on your brain please mate

@@rebellion-starwars Я как Русский соглашусь с вашими словами . нас всех толкают на эту войну ради политики и денег ! не кто не хочет умирать на этой войне, но и свою страну мы не дадим разбить на куски ... будем большая бойня .

明るい未来に、今改革、自分たちで。

They only want their pay. Don't be fooled. Russians are Russians.

There is no hope, they were protesting for no being paid.

Same here too.

@@anchoranchor3495 good. Let them not be paid

Those rotten z-ombies don't care about the war--they just want supply and ammunition.

Say that to the American people that have had enough of the Biden regime and what it’s doing to the economy. Let’s all stand up and take the president out of his place to show Russia and Iran how it’s done.

same ruSSian & Iranian taIibans same

@@SamKucherov stupid bot

@@PatriciaSantos-qt9lw Что? Что вы несёте?)

@@SamKucherov Stand up to what? We comfortable. We sitting here getting fat watching the Ukrainians kick Russia's ass all day everyday on youtube. Nobody killing us and forcing us to fight an illegal war. By the way if a little small country like Ukraine is kicking your ass what do think is going to happen if USA jump in. USA would destroy every Russian in Ukraine in 3 days. If NUKES didn't exist USA would take over all of Russia in less than a month.

Fragging is what I also had in mind

I hope the Ukrainians have enough weapons to arm these troops: they are VERY likely to join the Ukrainians first chance they get

Eh, doubt the general himself is going to be in much danger as long as they wait to issue the guns until these guys are on the front. From what we’ve been able to geolocate from pictures of Russian command positions they are all placed well outside missile range (so 35 clicks plus) from the front line. For example the disgraced General Lapin who was rumored to have pulled his gun on soldiers refusing to stop their retreat, had his command post for Kherson city located in the Olezhniy Sands nature reserve far away across the Dnieper river from the city and fighting.

@@luxborealis Over 100 colonels and 13 generals have been killed from the Russian Army so far this war. And you think he has a good chance of survival?

You mean "perilous".

Dude as long as they are leader, they will tend to silence as much people as they can

@@obey112el with what army

Russia is a Biblical Country this is why western transgenders are so afraid of ITS church and family values

You’re not Putin , that man has balls to face the world and you are just sitting in your rented flat

@@fununlimited7791 I still can kill any of these mfs without being noticed lol.

This army is not safe as putler now gave order to shut own soldiers who don't fight. What a miserable country russia is today!

Just surrender to the Ukraine and then will save their lives very sad for these young men they wanted to fight.

Those rotten z-ombies don't care about the war--they just want supply and ammunition.

Well said 👌

@@bafattvahetere Bro this is army, if you not willing to fight, you get punished, and this rule exists in every army I guess

@watch my videos Yeah well, WW1 was just a stupid d*ck measurement contest between cousins and not a war "of the people". WW2 was different since many people were angry (and emotionally manipulated) due to the treaty of Versailles. Hitler and his men knew very well how important the emotional side of things was and used propaganda very effectively. Since the war in Ukraine is also a war which most of the Russian people don't emotionally support, I'd say they will face a mass mutiny and or revolution eventually.

Mutinies amongst the British, French and of course Russian soldiers in WWI, probably also amongst the other nations involved.

Lmao Putin will flee to Iran or North Korea

But what if it's a suicide attack that can actually make some significant progress. Like commanding your men to go in bomb boats and destroy an important choke point? It's not senseless from a strategic perspective, but you do order men on a mission where their death is 100% assured.

The scary thing is if Putin saw this, he would send in his FSB and the riot control police, the 'leaders' would be identified, imprisoned, maybe even tortured! Putin is big on setting a punitive example! They would try to re-education, disinformation, propaganda, etc.. The Russian FSB is proficient in how to handle such! In this case, the General may not even care, because these soldiers are just the canon fodder! And the soldiers know this!

He is such a lying evil person time hecwas gone one way or the other!!!!

"I remain a master strategist." - Putin

Now Russian comrades take that fight all the way to the Kremlin, Go and overthrow your insane leader. Only then will the world respect you!

I agree. Once they’ve been backed into a corner the only way out is through whoever has them trapped.

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@@indiasuperclean6969 Yeah. Just a shame India doesn't have lower case letters yet 🤣

@@ohidontknow25 LMFAO

They were protesting not getting paid, that's all.

lol they do it just cause it's their skin that is in danger. If they had a good gear and stuff, they woudn't have any issues killing people

What drivel? 🙄

Putin's mobilization is his Kerensky Offensive and like the Kerensky Offensive in WWI, its results will be the same. The diseased, starved, untrained, under-equipped, demoralized, and poorly led men mutinied in the field, they turned around marched on St. Petersburg, and overthrew their government. Putin is laying the groundwork for Russia's 4th and final revolution.

Beautiful comment, but they didn’t protest against the war in Ukraine 🤦🏼‍♀️

No. Hell is hell and war is war, but war is worse than hell. There are no innocents in hell. There are, though, mostly innocents in a war.

It is the only way. Violence is the only language these corrupt so-called leadersnthat have grown too big for their breeches.

"It's good that war is so terrible, otherwise we would grow too fond of it."

American Girl Cries for Peace!!!

Makes me think of the use of cannons shooting 12 lb. metal balls that tore through opposing troops. Pretty grizzly. 11722

Thank you!💙💛

ukraine and russia are not real. theres only soviet union

@@mozambique9113 there's no Mozambique. There's only the Portuguese Empire

@@mozambique9113 oh man you are a time traveler...xd

lol Australia? trash country anyway

The tone and volume of their words was quite clear. Now all that is needed is ONE guy that can speak for all, earn their respect, and get them moving, and Putin can forget about his winter palace

Thank you.

Well done to all the conscripts it's time to take control and rid the world of Putin and his idiot generals wonderful thing to see hope they all make it home safely GOOD LUCK

Thanks for Everything, Mr. Compton

"Can" or "Can't"?

Sir, we thank you so much for your service, especially back then. Welcome home soldier. May everyone honor your service now as we should have back then.

There were multiple cases of mutiny in the Vietnam war on the US side, especially towards the end of the war.

Lol tell that to the officers who were fragged

Yes I’ve been thinking the same thing since before the mobilization. They’re creating another 1917 situation.

@@jlethal4929 There is an opinion that Putin started to like history since 2011-12 when he finally took a decision to return back in the Kremlin and it became evident before invasion in 2021 that he is keen on it. As it turned out he is a bad historian 🙂

It really looks like history is repeating . . . .

@@jlethal4929 And they started civil war where 5 times more were killed then in actual WWI lol

@@dzonikg a lot of western support kept the whites in the fight for years. Nobody is going to help Putin, not even China.

They may well support the war in principle. I'm guessing the frustration (rage?) is the realisation of how little Russia is supporting them in return, with any kind of proper training or equipment.

Thank you for your service.

The actions undertaken by Russian and ethnic minority (e.g. Tajik, Tatar, Chechen, Armenian etc) enlistedmen and their upper echelons is mind boggling, to have lost so many of their command and combat staff and dealing with domestic revolts amongst their civilian and military population, this is almost reminiscent of the August Coup. While not to the exact extreme it won’t take much to get to that tipping point. I’m concerned for the future of Russia and hope someone deals with the Regime internally before they turn to more drastic measures.

I hope that this will happen in all mobilized divisions. And then they will go to the winter palace, as it was in 1917.

Да все знают как ты убивал и разрушил чужие страны. А теперь поддерживаешь нацистов и убиваешь коренное население на Украине

i heard they shouted "fa...got"

No bro, they shouted **дарас, this word even banned on twitch

Youv'e gotta tel somebody about all the crap that is being stirred....

You're not allowed. But they aren't stopping them all

Yeah, that would never fly in the US corps. They take your phones from you when you first get to training, it's like the first thing that happens. The Russian training facilities probably cannot handle the huge influx of new recruits and just can't control them. It's absolutely crazy, unthinkable in the US.

@@johnsmithe4656 russian training facilities should do this aswell. But the soldiers keep hiding the phones pretty successfull

@@DoktorSchmand I guess they don't check up your ass.

They did that in Korea & Vietnam too

Yeah their not giving them any guns, let alone grenades. Now we know why !!

FRAGGED!

"I was fragged in Nam" Joe Biden 2022

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We in Russia watched it a million times

It hasn't been censored by the sun.

@@borivoj_navratil And what do you, in Russia, think about all of this? This is a sincere question.

@@borivoj_navratil How can you watch this? I thought the government censored everything?

@@miroslavkowalski5783 Obviously. The people who work for The Sun, can barely speak English!

What could possibly we worse than being blown to bits or mutilated for a criminal syndicate's pointless war?

The General is the one that would be executed. For not having any control over his men.

I would take jail over dying for Putin any day of the week.

@@Coastfog having your family pay the price, I'm sure their greatest fear is their families will pay for what they do or not do.

What will they do, slaughter them all? Or send them to a cold jail in siberia which is the better option, no?

Those rotten z-ombies don't care about the war--they just want supply and ammunition.

My thoughts exactly. Also remember, what happened after. Long, bloody civil war. Nothing good in the future.

🤞

Hopefully 😀

Those rotten z-ombies don't care about the war--they just want supply and ammunition.

To be fair the conscripts (if they are) probably didn’t have enough training refresher hammered into them about respecting command structure. They just didn’t have time. But yeah, imagine disrespecting a general if you’re a soldier…

Or, it means the USA lies to us telling us that people who disagree with Russia are murdered on the spot. They seem like they have no fears at all. I mean they are probably just conscripts and the military is trying to treat them as well as they can giving them freedoms that allowed them to think such behaviour was OK.

@@geroutathat So you think all the cruelty Soviets committed against their own soldiers is just Western propaganda? You think all the officer purges of the 1930's were just Western propaganda...despite literally thousands of accounts from Russian sources that this indeed was the case? And even if we accept that --- you think that what is displayed here is what, a _healthy_ sign of morale in the modern Russian army?

@@arkwill14 Russia said they didn't fire on Poland and they didn't. They said they didn't shoot a civilian plane out of the sky, do you think they did?

When a dictatorship loses fear as a tool of coercion it's done.

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Hah, they are protesting because they received poor equipment and bad conditions... not because they don`t want to kill Ukrainians

@Thierry Parte The winter will be much harder for the Russians. They have no issued military gear or proper boots even. The Ukrainians have the home field advantage times ten. Putin thinks leading like Stalin will work. WWII goes to the Germans if it was left up to Russia. The Americans defeated Hitler with industrial might, not with Russian soldiers being bullet sponges.

Those civilian-soldiers will be sent to most difficult warzones and be sucrifice to show others that mutiny has penalty. They will be dead by winter.

I think your running before you can walk here Jane but it’s promising , I dare not think what happens to these men

They either revolt or go to the front to die in a couple days. It is that simple of a choice. What’s with the “I dare not” nonsense?

A sad old soldier once told me a story. About a battlefield that he was on He said a man must never fight for glory He must know what is right and what is wrong. Flying Burrito Brothers

and endless vodka for "courage"

@@PatriciaSantos-qt9lw the general needed not only vodka to go there but also some armed guards.

I have doubt about the framing of this. If it was true this would have been a violent thing. They are laughing, these guys arent deserters.

@@attilamarics3374 Yes, it does not seem to be a challenge without going back, it seems like a protest to demand improvements in their conditions rather than a mutiny against going to war. Even so, it is something very remarkable, and proof of this is that the one who has gone to talk to them is a major general. Regardless of what kind of incident it was, it is something that will undoubtedly bring very serious consequences for all those who have participated in something like this, especially for the ringleaders.

@@attilamarics3374 Besides, it makes it quite clear that the Russian military has quite a few problems converting hastily mobilized civilians into military men.

Uuuuh, its deep, its very very deep. Just as deep as all the psycho rapists molesting others. Almost as deep as the madness in finding ANYTHING "deep" in whats goin on in Ukraine regarding the retarded mob state of Ruzkie land and their 140 million inhabitants - the ultimate surviving product of 1000 years completely mad and brutal retarded totalitarian rule. Deep, very very deep. Almost as deep as every "deep" guy chilling around in "the west" for 30 years with their brooms in their a$$e$ dont having the slightest clue this "deep" thing would happen in Ukraine. Deep, very deep.

' whilst the situation between Ukraine Russia and NATO goes much deeper than i care to go into right now ' God not another one who thinks NATO started the war or was the cause of it lol

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NATO is not and never has been a threat to Russia. Canada is as much threatened by the USA as Russia is by NATO. It is however an excellent justification for large amounts of military spending that can be siphoned off by Russias kleptocrats.

Yeah it goes back to 1991 when Ukraine was the last country to leave the USSR but Russia in reality refused to recognise Ukraine as an independent country. Even Donbas and Crimea voted to be free of Russian control, but they were happy to do business and maintain close INDEPENDENT relationships with Russia. In 1994 Russia signed a treaty to protect Ukraine borders if they gave up their USSR nukes and then did everything they could to keep Ukraine poor and dependent on Russia and it's corrupt system. This was inevitable because Russia has behaved like a drunk wife-beating ex-husband who finally snapped when his ex-wife got a new life.

I'm sure Putin will have him "fall out a window" for letting things get to this.

It would never reach this point. Priorities of mission accomplishment and troop welfare.

Western militaries don't treat recruits as Cannon fodder

Hopefully the treatment the Russian troops are supposedly being subjected to would also never stand in western militaries.

What an odd comment to make

@@barryj388 sending soldiers with tampons instead of actual medical kits? Yes. Never.

Hope so