All his issues have been sorted out from 2018 and up on all their bikes. A motorcycle sitting in the crate for four years is ridiculous, I'm shocked he hasn't had more problems
What problems, sprag clutch? I had a 2014 Rivale, not the most reliable bike I have had (not too bad either really), but damn was it FUN! It was like sitting on a raging bull. Many hate on the throttle response, but i thought that it was the fun part 😅 Thinking about a Brutale RR 2018 onwards, but also thinking about the bulletproof MT-09 2021 or so, but Agusta is just more special i think 🤗
My 2015 Dragster RR has 31000km on it right now. I do all the servicing on the bike myself, so servicing costs are not an issue. Recently adjusted the valves, replaced the cam chain and some other things. Mostly labour so no big expense for me, but would have cost a fortune to have the shop do all of that. Had the sprag clutch replaced out of warranty but free of charge (goodwill by MV actually). They also upgraded the software to shorten the starting sequence to spare the new clutch. Make sure they did the software update on your bike! Also put in a lithium battery with the new sprag. A poor (BS) battery will kill the sprag in no time. Other than the sprag, there has been no major issues. Mostly maintenance and some small things like a temp sensor that gave up. They do require regular maintenance and good care, but my Dragster certainly hasn’t been unreliable. You can often get really good deals on MV’s and they run like nothing else on earth and if you should also happen to be somewhat mecanically inclined, I think they are a steal on the preowned market.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Totally agree that if you can do most or even some of the maintenance yourself, that really makes owning an MV cheaper and easier. They can be awesome bikes if you get a good one and there are some killer deals out there - if you want to take a chance on one.
8000 plus miles on my 2015 F3 800 and it's my track bike... yes, it's freaking awesome on track. Just to let everyone know, I've had zero problems. I do maintenence probably more often than most, but other than losing a bolt on track, having to order it and it taking 3 weeks to arrive... no problems, just orgasmic fun!
Thanks for sharing your experience. People don’t believe me when I say there are F3 riders out there who have no problems with their bikes. I hope your good luck continues. I’m looking forward to getting my bike out to the track next year.
Speaking of potential buyers, I am very interested in getting a 2019 f3 800.....could you make a video or speak about the ergonomics of the bike since you ride it daily? I'm 6ft 3 tall and around 220lbs, but there are no videos that I can find about the ergonomics of it. How does it feel when you ride it, what do you like, what do you not like, is there any strain or discomfort anywhere when you are on it? Great videos by the way. I look forward to seeing more about your f3.
great video! thanks for sharing. i have a 2015 f3 800, at roughly 7000 miles now. i too bought it at a ridiculous price from a clueless dealer (was used, taken in on a trade). rode it on the road for one year, then made it my full time track bike, where i feel it really shines. fyi, shell 91 is ethanol free and what i exclusively use. have to say, i have had very few issues (except for a terribly rear brake) with my bike since ive had it (i was soooo worried when i bought it about the pitfalls), and i ride the living snot out of it on track, always hovering at rev limiter and pushing the brakes to their limits. such a fun machine. not the best out there, but so unique in the experience one gets from riding it. but yeah, it's been super reliable in my books.
Glad you enjoyed the video and glad to hear your F3 is treating you well. I’m planning to get mine out to the track at some point in the next year. Great tip about Shell 91. I’ll pass that one along. Stay safe!
Glad you liked the video. Yes, the red on black sealed the deal for me. It looks menacing. If you don’t care about reliability, then definitely go for an MV.
Awesome video the F3 is probably my dream bike I’ve ridden it a couple of times a few years ago and it has left a huge impression. Your video answered a lot of the questions I have and yes I just bought a Honda for my daily the biggest reason being reliability.
Glad you enjoyed the video and thought it was helpful. The F3 can be great but just when things are going well it reminds you of MV lesson #4 : make sure you have a second bike!
AMV is the clutch issue a recurring thing? There’s a bunch of MVs around cheap but I’m afraid of parts availability and stuff. I have a Ducati monster too which has a bad rep for reliability but so far it’s been very reliable.
Sprag clutch problems are common with the F3. It helps if you keep it on a battery tender but I did that and mine still didn’t last 5k miles. I thought it only affected the older silver-engined bikes (2012-2016). But I got a message from someone with a black-engined 2017 bike that had his go out, so it looks like they haven’t fixed it on the newer bikes. It’s a great bike but keep the Honda for when you’re waiting for parts from MV.
Had about the same experience with my '13 F3 675 (including the wicked deal on one sitting at a dealership for years!). Had it for ~9000km until a move determined it was no longer viable :( Was lucking to not have the sprague clutch go on mine. I did have the horn cable break multiple times. During the 6000km service I had a new "performance" air filter installed. Unfortunately after putting everything back together the bike wouldn't start. Mechanic found that from the factory a cable to some air intake sensor was never hooked up, it just got pinched together in such a way that it worked. That was a big bill for labour. Only time the bike actually let me down was on a cold morning I got a very serious sounding error display about an exhaust valve. Once the day warmed up it was all good. Moral of the story, don't rely on the italians on a cold morning.
Congrats on the Brutale. There are a lot of great deals showing up on older MVs that have low miles. And Brutales are supposed to be more reliable than F3s so hopefully you have good luck. Enjoy!
Thanks for the honest review. I fell in love with the Turismo Veloce but held back because of the vlog a rider in San Diego had bad experiences sub-5000 miles
well done- informative and good presentation of that info. I've a 2015 800 RR, siting with 'gas position malfunction' waiting for its dealer date. Bike is crazy fun
Thanks. Glad you liked the video. I’m just trying to give people a good idea of what it’s like to own an MV. Good luck getting your RR fixed. That’s a cool bike.
Nice review and feedback AMV for potential owners. I too had the sprag clutch fail on my Brutale 800, also had to get the EFI re-mapped a few times to sort out throttle response, and the fly-by-wire broke leaving me with ... well .. no throttle ... but apart from that :-) I loved the thing and would defo buy another MV despite those issues
Glad you enjoyed the video and hopefully it helps some people thinking about getting an MV. I got the latest engine map when I brought my bike in for the break-in service and that really improved the throttle response at low rpm. It's nice and smooth now. I hope your new sprag clutch keeps your bike starting well. Keep enjoying your Brutale!
The F4 is an awesome bike. But if you’re going to ride one around LA in the summer, be prepared to literally be in the hot seat - with that exhaust! But it’s worth it!
Thank you so much for sharing! The moment I saw the Brutale Dragster RR I was hooked and have been looking to potentially make it my next bike. The Honda CB1000R is pretty sexy too AND $5,000 cheaper than the MV....I’m torn!!! Thanks again for sharing! Rubber side down, brotha !!
Glad you enjoyed the video. Both the Dragster and new CBR1000 look great in person. Streetfighter vs. Sportbike. Tough call. MV's make for a great 2nd bike - as long as you have another to ride when it's in the shop. But if you can only have one bike - I'd go with the Honda. Just my $.02. Good luck with whatever you decide to get!
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Aprilia are the same- I waited for 6 weeks to get a starter solenoid 👎on a Mille. Still loved the bike tho
Ouch. I feel your pain. Makes you wonder what people who own bikes from even smaller Italian factories do. Own a Bimota or Bennelli? Say 100 Hail Mary's before every ride?
Neighbor also has an F3. Grey engine cover 🙀. Sick looking bike. He always has problems with the rear brake. It cuts out as brake fluid evaporates. Is that a known problem? He also had problems with the exhaust valves. Meanwhile I enjoy the triple sensation on my Triumph Street Triple. No problems whatsoever, and a great bike, but I must admit, that MV does look waaaaay better. As it is more of a purebred race bike and I am still a beginner, I don’t feel tempted to buy a MV…. But OMFG. These bikes are to drool over….. Brutale, Dragster etc, they all are like works of art.
Yes, a weak rear brake is a known problem with the F3 because the reservoir is so close to the exhaust and that causes all kinds of problems. Yes, they really are beautiful bikes. As long as you have a back-up plan for when it goes down (since it can take a while to get parts) it's pretty cool own to one.
Good stuff! Liked and subbed. I bought an F3 675 this year and I've been putting good miles on it too. LA freeways rack up the numbers quick. i've put a little over 2k on it so far, so i'll definitely be watching your channel to see how things go for you. maybe I'll see you at a bike night. Ride safe!
Thanks! Glad you're enjoying the videos. Hopefully, they're helpful for people out there thinking about getting an MV. Glad to hear you're enjoying your 675. Maybe I'll see you around (once I get my MV back)!
Hello, Plan to buy a F3 800 RC, very happy to find you video, I'm not expecting to have the tank issue (Europe Gas) but all this still very interesting. Thanks!
Glad you're enjoying the videos. The RC is an awesome bike. You're right - luckily you shouldn't have the tank issue as long as you stay away from ethanol.
Europe has E5 fuel with ethanol, however of course E5 has much less ethanol content than E10. Also that marking only means the maximum ethanol content allowed, in reality there is anything from zero to the percentage maximum of ethanol in the fuel, usually far lower than the maximum. And not all bikes are affected by the ethanol. My unscientific and unverified feeling is that bikes in hot climates tend to be affected, and in more moderate climates practically no issues. Could be that black bikes suffer more too due to the colour soaking in the heat?
Hello, I'm from Germany, this year I got a 2017 mv agusta f3 800 with 5600km. Now it's about 10,000km, the only problem I have is that I lose brake pressure every couple of weeks, so I went to the dealer twice to bleed it. Otherwise, if you have been in the hot sun for a long time and you turn it on, it becomes very loud and rough, which sometimes sounds like it has no oil. otherwise I am absolutely satisfied. :) Sry for the bad englisch. ^^
Hello. That's great news. Glad to hear you haven't had many problems with your F3. I don't have a brake pressure problem but I've heard about it. I assume it's the rear brake? Some people think that MV designed the bike with the reservoir too close to the exhaust so the fluid heats up when the bike gets hot. Try wrapping a little heat shield around the reservoir and maybe that will fix the problem. Glad you're enjoying the bike. Bleib sicher und gesund.
@@amv_moto yea there is not, & it makes for helping to get subs & views, cause eventually more people will look into the bike. I bought my bike with 1,611 miles i have a little over 8k miles on it now. & i only had it for 3 months now.
@@ExoticRiderr I ride a 2014 Brutale 800 and am so happy I came across this video. Subbed here and am about to subscribe to you too. Ur soooo right, its hard to find MV content. I also had an issue in October and took forever to find a solution
@@blackbarry yyooo thank you so much for the sub. I am hoping to make a short update video this week to talk about some things about my F4 & whats going on with it & why its taking so long haha. & sweet dude, my friend has a 2015 Brutalle 800, they are soooo much fun to ride & have so much torque aswell. I want to own multiple MVs, but MV is not a cheap brand haha.
For sure, MV’s are beautiful bikes. I just advise people to have another bike as a backup in case the MV goes down because it could be a while before it’s back up again. ⏳
I have the December 2014 model of the F3 800. I bought it at 2200 km (1350miles). The first thing I changed was the battery. It was really bad. I am now at 11500km (7150miles). I also had problems with the sprag clutch since ~6000km. It started difficult but after trying it at least 5 6 times it started. I waited for winter (to bring it to the dealer workshop) but the problem dissappeared out of nowhere. It has started without problems for the last ~2500km. (No problems with the sprag clutch anymore without doing anything) I also had a few small electrical problems that I could solve myself. My problem at the moment is the exhaust valve. I've been riding and loving the motorcycle since day one.
Thanks for sharing your MV experience and I'm glad you're loving your F3. That's interesting about your starting problem disappearing by itself. Lucky you. I hope it stays that way. Funny you mention the exhaust valve - mine failed and that's the topic of my next video.
an f3 for $12000 after 5k miles?? a new one here is $25k, jeez, man. you lucked out. you can’t even get a gsxr 750 new for less than $14k from a dealer.
I've long loved MVs, from a distance. While working at a BMW/Triumph dealer I did oil changes on a couple MVs. Oil changes were straightforward and the bikes were in decent shape otherwise but during post service test rides, wow did they convince me to never get one. The fueling was horrible, throttle response was nowhere near smooth and I've owned Aprilias since 2003 and my 03 especially has snatchy, on/off throttle response and modern MVs were way worse. Never own an MV as your only bike. If you can afford 2 bikes and HAVE to have an MV, have another bike as your main ride and save the MV for a weekend toy, just my opinion.
Luckily the fueling has gotten much better over the last few years, but I'd agree - only get an MV if you REALLY want one. But make sure you have another bike in the garage - because you'll need it when the MV is in the shop.
A boutique bike means you need back up transportation. Honda’s, Yamaha’s, parts and mechanics are everywhere because they build millions of bikes. Exotic cars you must wait for parts from Italy. Many more Ducati’s are built so waiting time for parts not as bad. All bikes are reliable especially compared to the 70’s-80’s with electronics.
When parking your F3, hook it up to a battery tender. Make sure your battery is charged at all times. Put E5 gasoline in (euro 98) in your tank. All should be fine. These are high performance sport machines, so dont cold rev the engine. Common sense should help with not snapping off a valve xD. Just my 0.02
Definitely. I had my battery on a tender whenever I wasn’t riding it and the sprag clutch lasted to 4800 miles. I’ve heard of others lasting longer and some others failing earlier. Unfortunately, almost all gas in the US is 10% ethanol but definitely good advice to avoid ethanol if at all possible.
@@amv_moto You own an early 800cc version. Those were known to have a weak sprag clutch design. Sadly.. yours dieded quickly yes. From my mind 2016 and later should have an updates sprag clutch. 675cc F3, doesnt show these issues.*(that early or at all)
My first motorcycle was a little Honda CBR 300, which cost me $58 for its first service, and $200 for a year of insurance. It got about 80mpg, started every time, and never had any issues. I sold it at 6,500 miles and it ruined me for exotic bikes. Forking out the money for even routine service on something with more engine and sex appeal could break a man.
Nice vid ! Have had a F3 675A2 of 2019, had a few issues with it (sent it back to Italy as wouldn't start after 571 km). Then no issue until about 10 000 km when the clutch failed. Nothing again and changed it around 13 000 km for an F3 800 RC of 2020. On this one have done 4 000 km with only rear light off. These are awsome bikes especially on track. Just need great care : heat it up before riding, heat it down when very hot (may be hot here in Paris and I ride monday to friday all year), charge it once a month... And accept a few issues in exchange for the right to ride an exclusive bike ! Btw, all has always been taken on guarantee. Ride safe !
So my 2017 F3 800 just dropped a valve shortly after my valve inspection service. Back brake never worked...of course the sprag clutch gave out at 3k miles. Haven’t had a problem since.
Snapped valve - ouch. Sounds like you’ve definitely had a run of bad luck with your F3. I hope you’ve got that out of the way now and you have no problems going forward!
bng2679 I was taking a cruise through 15 mph curves so I wasn’t going too fast. I was roughly going 90 mph on a straight when it happened. Everything was normal until the bike cut off on me. I don’t rev match since the F3 comes with an auto blipper.
that thing is gorgeous but there's no question about whether it is unreliable and i am not even talking about the video thumbnail i am seeing on the right - that one with the engine
New to your channel and this is obviously the first video ive watched you definitely get a 👍🏻 up off me and I’ll definitely be checking out more of your stuff!!! Adam 🇬🇧
You forgot to states in early F3,Dragster and Brutale these are weak point sprag clutch,quick shifter and gas tank..the newer 3 cylinder has improved engine performance and reliability..
True. I actually mentioned this in my “Sprag clutch fail” video. I didn’t get into it all again because I wanted to keep this video short. But I got a message from someone with a 2018 F3 whose sprag clutch just failed so maybe the improved design isn’t that much better.
Thanks for this bro I've been considering this or the Panigale V2 since i cant justify having my 2018 cbr1000rr on the street anymore, just not fun not not being able to bang through the gears without losing my license lol. I think i might go for the V2 just because better tech and I have more faith in Ducati since they have a bigger dealer network compared to MV and I still want a bike with the beautiful Italian looks. Still want an F3 though maybe for a second bike because i still think the F3 looks slightly better than the Panigale
Glad you enjoyed the video. Ha! Totally understand. As much as I'd love to have an S1000RR, I cannot justify having that much HP on the street. The 150ish HP of an F3 or V2 feels like the prefect amount for a street bike. I'd agree with everything you said. I think the F3 is a better looking bike, but the tech and dealer support is better with a Ducati. I'd get the Panigale. Hate to leave you with a cliffhanger but my next few videos will definitely help explain why I'd advise you to get the V2. Stay safe.
Sure, but a Volkswagen bike is the epitome of uncool in my opinion. Just because they have 'Italian looking design' on it doesn't change the Ducati from being a German Volkswagen product. Actually them faking that stuff and passing it off as 'genuine Italian passion' or whatever makes it even worse in my view. It's not as if you need to get maintenance on a bike that often. Or if you mean to keep the bike for a long time (so you don't need to show dealer service records to buyers) any good mechanic can do the servicing really. Well, some don't have the necessary tool for the rear hub. And at least I've had no problem sending it off to be serviced even though I do understand that some don't want the additional small cost.
I bought the same bike from the same dealer for the same price. I have about 7500 miles. Had the sprag clutch issue. Also replaced the battery with a lithium ion. It was fixed under warranty but it took almost 6 months, the dealer lost the part. after it was fixed there was no other problem.... yet. I come from Yamaha's. I do miss the reliability, but the bike is beautiful. It really is a toss up. If you ride a lot reliability is something to consider. I think it is a experience to own one, but my next bike will be another Japanese sport bike.
I always wondered what happened to those other NOS bikes they gave away. Ha! Congrats on snapping one up. Totally agree - it's a beautiful bike but you need to make sure you have another more reliable bike to ride when it goes down because it could be a while before you get it back.
But yes, $2000 in service costs in 5000 miles is expensive. Granted, a lot of the Euro brands had the tank expansion issue with their plastic tanks and the ethanol here in the U.S. but in 5k miles you should have had the cost of 2 oil changes and maybe a chain adjustment. I put 5k miles on my 2003 Tuono in the first 3 months owning it. The only issue I had was a fingerprint sized bubble in the clear coat on the front fairing and they replaced that under warranty. Didn't even notice the wait for the part but that was over the winter while I was stationed in Boston so I wasn't riding anyway but parts did take a while to get from Aprilia back then. After that though the 03 has a few recurring issues. The starter relays like to go out, the OEM especially, there's a Yamaha/Honda equivalent that last longer but every few years it'll need replacement and I've gone through a couple Speedo sensors. Steering head bearing at around 30k miles, clutch release bearing at around 35k. My 2012 V4 Tuono I bought used at a little over 9k miles on the clock and at 12k the stator fried itself, this is a somewhat common issue, a quick search and I found more than a dozen others with the same problem on the apriliaforum and Aprilia has an improved replacement stator but have not issued a recall on the original and at 12k miles it sounds like it needs a valve adjustment by the noise in the top end while my 2003 has never needed one in 40k miles and I've seen from others who've done 100k miles with the valve lash in spec (on the older bikes with the Rotax v-twin engines, the newer Piaggio V4s are more finicky, not sure about their v twins).
My VFR 1200 is coming up on 5000 miles, (7000 kilomters) and its effectivly still new. The forums for my bike indicate i'll have probably 100-150 thousand basically trouble free kilomters, assuming i do the correct maintenance. Imagine if MV actually knew how to build bikes that lasted.
MATE,AS LONG AS IT MAKES YOU SMILE THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT, I HAVE A LOVE OF TRIPLES, NEVER GOT TO OWN ONE,, 3 TIMES ALMOST BOUGHT A LAVERDA 3CE BUT I'M A AM A MECHANIC AND THE IDEA OF THE CAM CHAIN BEING THE ONLY OIL SUPPLY TO THE HEAD JUST DOESN'T DO IT FOR ME, LOVE THE SOUND,, SO NOW I'VE SETTLE ON A 2000 RSV APRLIA, DOES IT FOR ME, HAS THE HANDLING, BU IT DOES HAVE OHLINS AND OZ WHEELS, SO YEAH ITS A BIT SPECIAL OH AND ONLY 33 000 KMS ON IT, SO YEAH MAKES ME SMILE
AMV possibly man! I lived in Irvine, out that way there was almost nothing but panigales and r1/r6’s. But as soon as I took a trip to la seen a mv, a cbr1000rr urban tiger and like 10 busas lol
Great video! You got an amazing deal, wow. Big question, would you ever get another MV? I have an 2013 F3 675 which I also got for an incredible deal in 2014 and haven't had any major issues besides the original battery. Considering getting the Superveloce 800. Thoughts on that vs a Ducati V2?
Glad you enjoyed the video. That's great you've had few problems with your F3. Yeah, I definitely got the deal of a lifetime. But, no I don't think I'd buy another MV. I hate to leave you with a cliffhanger but if you watch my next few videos - it'll be pretty clear why not. I've owned bikes from Honda, Yamaha, Triumph, Ducati and MV. Without a doubt, I think MV has the worst customer service. It's not even close. And it just leaves a sour taste in your mouth if you ever have any issues. Superveloce vs. V2? I like spending someone else's money! I'm not sure where in the world you are but here in the US, the Superveloce is $21k. A Ducati V4 is $22k. (V2 is $16.5k) The Superveloce looks cool but I would spend the extra grand and get the V4. The tech on that bike destroys the MV - wheelie control, slide control, electronic suspension, awesome display. And if something goes wrong, Ducati will undoubtably be quicker fixing the issue than MV. Just my $.02. Good luck with whatever you decide to get!
The F3 800 is a great bike but MVs back up is shit, I wanted a new naked middleweight and the MV F3 Brutale, FZ/MT-09 and Triumph Street Triple RS were the ones that really stood out for me, after test riding all three I ruled out the Yamaha as its finish wasn't as good as the other two, so it came down to the Triumph or MV which I liked equally but for different reasons, after researching the back up for both manufacturers I opted for the RS and couldn't be more happy with both the bike and support.
So true. The F3 is a great bike but MV Agusta has terrible customer support so you'd better cross your fingers and hope nothing goes wrong if you buy one. The RS looks to be a great bike so I'm glad you got something you're happy with.
MV never came into question for me due to budget and the fact that I am a beginner. So also went for Street Triple, but the R. Now did 3000 km on it. Great bike. But these MV are sheer works of art. Put them in my living room and I stare at them all day long. 😉
I have been looking at a 675 and I believe my next bike is going to be another ZX6R. The F3 is beautiful and new old stock let's you get an unbelievable deal, but I am afraid of having problems and not being able to order parts and have them arrive in a couple of days.
An MV makes a great 2nd bike. But I'd get something more dependable if you ride a lot. The fastest my shop has ever received a part from MV is 3 weeks so if it's something that's keeping your bike off the road - that's a long time to wait.
People keep repeating old information. Well, it keeps MV's cheaper for the rest of us so I guess I don't mind Kawasaki buyers living oblivious... The parts availability issue was during the time of the old owner of the company, when the company was basically bankrupt. Oh, and 3 weeks is not a catastrophically long time to wait for a part all things considering, though I do agree that they should have a spare parts warehouse in the USA and foot the bill for express delivery. Here in Europe I had to order a new maintenance booklet after my service center lost mine, and I got an immediate response from MV Agusta HQ and they sent it immediately, left the same day.
Yep sounds about right 800 dragster same problems. MV F4 bought from new auto blipper was shit stopped working. Rear break set on fire and cooked the ABS sensor and traction control sensor. Went in the shop October didn't see the light of day till end of January. 10 months of Bull Shit hell.
Yeah, I've talked to MV owners who have no problems and others who have really hellish experiences. MV's motto is "Motorcycle Art" but during my last service the mechanic said "I wish they'd concentrate more on the 'motorcycle' part". If you still have the bike - hope you have better luck in the future!
For sure Japanese bikes are more reliable in general. I tell people that MV’s make a great 2nd bike, just make sure you have another bike ready for when it goes down.
Sounds like a bit of a pain. I once owned a Ducati Monster 696. The first bike of that style of Monster that came out. It was probably even more expensive to service and the clutch gave me problems for the entire 40,000 km I had the bike. It was always expensive to service. I know ride a BMW K1300S. I have had it for 6 years now and it costs less than half what the Ducati did. Admittedly I over rode the Ducati, they aren't supposed to do constant distances, every day, whereas the BMW was designed for it and laps it up.
It definitely can be a pain owning an MV if you get a lemon. Some people get lucky and have no problems. But I tell people to have another more dependable bike on standby, if you can afford it, because at some point you'll need it.
For sure. I tell people - MV make an awesome bike just make sure you have something else to ride when it's in the shop because it could be in there a while.
MV F3's are like an average chick in high school who happens to be the prom queen. And even though all your classmates know she is not the smartest tool in the shed, through dating her, you have learnt she is a fucking contortionist, and therefore, don't mind taking her out to the expensive restaurants.
That’s great to hear. People don’t believe me when I say there are riders out there who have no problems with these bikes. It seems like for every person who has no problems, there’s someone else who has a hellish experience - snapped valves, sprag clutch, boiled rear brake. I hope your good luck continues!
This is a premium bike with few aftermarket parts. This is a boutique company vs Honda making 20 million bikes/year. Parts are expensive and labor is also. Did you want to buy a boring Toyota vs a an exciting Lamborghini. Most people that buy MV’s have a car, SUV, and an additional primary bike. I own a 2018 Super Duke 1290r and a 2019 MV Agusta Dragster 800rr Pirelli Edition. I have owned Ducati before but wanted a 3 cylinder, small, light bike. I looked at the Streetfighter V4, but up to 10,000 my Super Duke has more horsepower and torque. I wanted something different and unique. I love cutting edge European stuff. The world follows what comes out of Europe. I do not have a Dealer near me but bikes are way more dependable than the 1970’s versions.
Speaking of potential buyers, I am very interested in getting a 2019 f3 800.....could you make a video or speak about the ergonomics of the bike since you ride it daily? I'm 6ft 3 tall and around 220lbs, but there are no videos that I can find about the ergonomics of it. How does it feel when you ride it, what do you like, what do you not like, is there any strain or discomfort anywhere when you are on it? Great videos by the way. I look forward to seeing more about your f3.
Glad you're enjoying the videos. Hopefully they're helpful to people thinking about getting an MV. I'm 5'11" (180cm) and 185lb (84 kg) and I'm comfortable on the bike but I've ridden sport bikes all my life so I'm very used to that kind of ride. I think it's comfortable because your weight is more evenly split between the bars, seat and pegs. My daily commute is about 30min each way and I'm not sore at all when I get off the bike. The longest one-way ride I've done is 2hrs and for the last 20 min my butt was getting a little sore (the seat is firm) and my right wrist was tingling but I think I'd feel the same from any modern sport bike. In Southern California, summers are HOT (>90F/32C) and you will feel the engine heat on your legs on the hottest days. But, again, I don't think the heat is any worse than any modern sport bike. Let me know if you have any other questions. I have a couple of interesting vids on the way.
@@amv_moto cool man.....thanks for the reply.....I've ridden dirt bikes before but this will be my first sports bike potentially.......is this bike tame enough to lear on? I live in nor cal about an hour from sac.......have you had it tuned to you both ergonomically and suspension wise? The reason I ask is because I came across a channel on RU-vid from a guy named Dave moss who is in the the bay area. He talks about how important it is to get the bikes tuned to the rider.
Yes, you could have this as your first sport bike - although, to start, I'd probably recommend something Japanese (like an R6) because of the reliability factor. But if you really want to start with an F3 800 you can tone down the power by riding in "rain" mode and that'll make it pretty docile. Then change the mode as you gain confidence with the bike. Having the suspension tuned will make a big difference with the comfort of the ride. I have some experience with that because I used to club race but I do want to have Dave Moss tune the bike. He's down here in LA a few times/year doing suspension workshops and really knows what he's doing. Good luck with whatever you decide!
This MV is a beauty... But that tank thing would've annoyed me no end!!!!!! And then the 30 day wait on the second issue. Yeah - I'm over that kind of ownership issue personally.
For sure. Owning an MV can test anyone’s patience. If you get lucky and get one with few issues it’s awesome but if you’re unlucky it’s really annoying!
So so sad man, I'd expect a better bike at this price. Especially from a company that's been around for so long, they should've at LEAST resolved all those issues you named. 5k miles is nothing, really. A bike should function well over 40k miles even, unless you abuse it on a regular..
Strange to list an "inspection service" and extended warranty as running costs... Also the new battery shouldn't be listed since that is your error or MV's to replace due to the sprag clutch issue. And the tank re-lining shouldn't be listed IMO because that is your own discretionary decision (and haven't MV improved the tank design/materials since??). Really people should expect to pay $850. Not $2065. That's the cost for the 5000 miles of use. And calling the experience expensive with such low expenses and after only paying $10392 for the purchase of that Italian mechanical art on wheels???
Yeah, that wasn't really meant to be a typical cost list - more of exactly what I paid so other people can get a sense of the costs in case they have the exact same problems. Maybe that wasn't clear but I'll make sure to stress that on my 10000 mile recap video. Yes, "expensive" is subjective which is why I let the viewers decide for themselves if it's expensive or not. Personally, I don't think it is but as soon as I say that the Honda riders jump up and say they never pay that to maintain their bikes. Ha!
wow...why would someone buy these bikes. Let me give you reliability reference. I had a small cb400 180k kms. yes you read it right. 180k kms over 15 years and did not miss a beat till I sold it. only expense were, fluids ,filters, sprockets and fork oil seal once. thats all. No valve issue, timing chains nothing at all. I have zx6r now and have done 30kkms....and same story. Fluid and filters.
Good idea but here in the US, MV only replaces parts under warranty after they have actually failed. Although had I known it was going to take a month to arrive, it might have been worth it to buy the part out-of-pocket to have it ready. Lesson learned.
I actually thought about that but there's no way a wrap would match the rest of the stock paint so I'd have to wrap the entire bike to have all the panels match. Not sure if I have the patience or skill to pull that one off and have it look decent.
Definitely. I don’t think I’d pay full price for an MV or most any other bike. Getting New Old Stock - like I did - is a great way to get a killer deal. Otherwise, slightly used saves you a ton.
Hello AMV, Does the F3 battery need to be charged if we don't use the bike for few days or week??? Because I know that we can start the Honda even if we don't use for a month or more. I only ride my bike in three to four days interval. Will I need to charge it every time before I ride. I really want to buy the MV but if it is not practical for me I would rather go for the cbr 600rr. Please clear this for me.
No, it really doesn't need to be charged if you don't use it but your sprag clutch will last much longer if your battery is fully charged - which is why most F3 riders will advise you to keep it on a charger whenever you're not riding it. The harder it has to work, the shorter it lasts. I'm sure you can go weeks without riding it and without keeping it on a charger, but I'd guess you'd be replacing your sprag clutch once/year if you do that. Btw, the newer black-engined bikes are supposed to have an improved sprag clutch design so maybe it's a little better but I've heard about those failing as well. Good luck with whatever you decide to get!
I had a similar situation, since I bought an MV that was several years old, had also been sitting in a dealership. I had new tires fitted immediately. However they aren't necessarily gone bad because tires don't age much when not in sunlight. I've often heard tire experts say that they don't age much at all when in storage. But when out in the world, affected by UV, they'll start to go bad in approx 4 years. I wanted to swap mine out just to be on the safe side, tires are so incredibly important on bikes.
Los Angeles has a lot of streetlights, but in dimmer parts of the city I’ve never noticed the headlight was weak. Hopefully someone with an F3 who does proper country riding will chime in.
4800 BREAK DOWN_????? i would say unreliable- Augusta is a bike you ride to the coffee house 2 miles from home and say look at me.. when its 65 degrees out you try to coast all the way there with no stop lights and speeds below 50 mph... any normal riding that any japanese motorcycle can do for 50k miles you are asking for TROUBLE.. put it on a track one day when its 100 degrees watch it grenade-- I really do not know how this company stays in business
My cheap ass watching this shouting “you could’ve bought a used GSXR for $18 dollars and run it on boiled quarters for 80,000 miles without even needing to touch the valves!!”
Guys, I'm a noob. I love bikes but I'd get something like a aprillia rs660 tuono. Can any oje explain how the factory quickshifters work for new bikes. Can u downshift like Cavanaugh double clutches which kinda heel and toe on downshifts? I really need to know this before I buy any bike
This video on quickshifters might help you- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mlBhPZdVqb8.html Good luck with whatever you decide to get!
Well I actually used to ride an old 748 so I can speak from experience. The F3 would win that one - no contest. The clutch on an F3 is lighter so it's easier in city traffic. A Ducati runs much hotter than an F3 - from the engine and from the underseat exhaust, so you bake on hot summer days. And an F3 has basic rider aids - traction control, selectable engine mapping (i.e. rain mode) and ABS (depending on the model) while an older Ducati has none of that.
@@amv_moto i am so close in getting on depends on negotiation.what about the riding ergos? I am almost 6ft tall medium built. Tried both but f3 seems more tolerable for my body.
if the bike was sitting in a box for 4 years then thats why he had the sprag clutch problem. That has been covered by MV for a long time now. And I don't see how the tank paint work is a reliability issue - more a design issue. And any battery would be stuffed after siting there for so long. I managed to "kill" a Yuasa battery in 6 months simply because it was sitting in a box in my house waiting to be fitted whilst i was ill.
Don't believe everything said on the internet. 1. He didn't specify which bikes the sprag clutch issue _used to_ affect: only the old engine versions. First of all there was an update to the sprag clutch design years ago. Then there is the fact that there is a completely new clutch design on the new engine versions. 2. He didn't inform that there is a fix, failed sprag clutches get the updated part, so if a used bike you're looking at has had the sprag changed relatively recently then it shouldn't be an issue anymore. 3. Sprag clutches failing don't usually leave people stranded, practically never AFAIK. It shows symptoms _long_ before it fails. 4. Spare parts supply issues were a thing back in the day. The company was on the brink of bankruptcy under the previous owners. Now MV has had a new owner for years, they haven't had cash problems for years, and they've completed a complete overhaul to the parts supply system specifically to address that past issue. One known fault which has been dealt with under warranty, has been fixed, and the parts supply issue having also been fixed I'd say that it's totally incorrect to call MV Agustas unreliable based on that. (And his fault had possibly been caused by a poor quality battery installed in the first place.)
