That's because there's very little real-world value for the card. It's only made because nvidia can, and for those who have the money to blow on it to chase leaderboard spots. I went with a 4070 Ti Super, and I'm set for a long time.
@@Pudge6929 This literally happens everytime a new piece of tech drops yet you all always act surprised lmfao. But in 2-3 years it'll be relatively cheap. I never pay for new tech and always wait like 2 years before buying. Whether this is tvs, phones, pcs, etc. I always wait.
@@homiefromfl I bought one because AMD cards don't support my VR headset. The 4090 gives me the best experience. There are other reasons to buy one besides bragging rights.
Really haven't been excited for PC gaming since the RTX 20 series. $1600 for a GPU is just god damn ridiculous. Even the lower end cards cost a crap ton. It's so depressing the direction that the market's going.
Amd could compete with Nvidia if crossfire was still a thing. Where I'm at, I could literally buy TWO 7900xtx cards for less than a single 4090. If we could still set them up to work in parallel, they'd probably outperform the 4090. Which would probably force Nvidia to finally drop the price on them, too, keeping everyone happy.
Cf/Sli implementation isn't easy and now gamedev don't care about optimisation... but now AMD use chiplets design in RX7000 series so maybe in future we see infinity bridge interconnect between cards
How about we just start calling them Titans again - people clearly are more easily upsold when comparing products with numerical designations, the Titan was the TITAN and deserved its ridiculous price. Now people see "dur 90 better than 80, better purchase".
Top-tier components are not good investments currently. The 4090 power connector issue is a limiting factor, as are the current failures in high end Intel CPUs.
Honestly with the price of a 4090, and new GPUs on the horizon, i couldnt imagine buying one for the price its at, sure its a great card, but performance to dollar, its just not worth it, if you feel the need to own the best, youre probably better off waiting.
Saying only 12gb for 1080p is supidest statement ive heard for a while also paying +100 for 4gb of vram is stupid and 7700xt is on newer gen so it is better choice for newer builders
@@vekazu_is_great_guy Rx 6800 16gb is the same price or cheaper than the Rx 7700xt 12gb. They perform the same on raster and in some games in 1440p, the Rx 6800 beats the Rx 7700xt because of more vram.
Dude 12gb vram is perfectly fine for the horsepower that the 7700 has People complain about vram because cards like the 4070ti super has tons of horsepower to drive things like high settings and Ray tracing which demands more vram than 12gb, the 7700 isn't powerful enough to need more vram
@@adlibconstitution1609 rx 6800 is Last gen so for New builders 7700xt is a lot better and now that you can find 7700xts for 370 no reason to get 4+ vram for 8% slower card and cost the same if not more now days (6800xt is same speed as 7700xt not 6800)
7900gre performs about the same as the 6800xt in games, yes I know the former is newer and has newer functions but a brand new from sfx 6800 xt in NA costs around 430$ new (you can find it even cheaper used) from sfx while the 7900 gre is around 550-580? Personally I’ll take the 6800 xt and get a more powerful psu and maybe even a bigger case for 20-40 more dollars, Not to mention a new 6800 non xt is also a great deal and can be found for 370 which is what I would personally go with, value with older cards is honestly at its height right now and buying a newer graphics card for maybe a few more frames and more functions you’ll probably never use is a little dumb for casual builders like myself, but what do I know I just wanna save money 😭
If you want a really budget card for the low low get the AMD FirePro W7100. I good condition used one is like 50`70 bucks but can be cheaper. Runs everything fine just use thermal paste
I’ve been buying RX 580 for $60 off of offer up, you just gotta negotiate for a lower price and show them listings on eBay of the gpu selling for less than what their offering
I'm hoping 50s series Nvidia cards are reasonable prices, a significant boost over 40s series and don't melt or anything. And also don't require too much power. Can Nvidia do it???
Idk if its in direct competition with 4070 ti super. More the 7900xt price more appropriate when making the comparison, and for 150 less its almost at 4080 in rasterized gaming, for 1k I'd def choose a 7900xtx
Nvidia may be best performance on top, but as far as gaming goes...Things have gotten out of control and too many people focus on specs over enjoying a smooth gaming experienc
get a 3090 and when the 5090 drops... then consider the 4090. No point in staying up to date with these crazy prices. Force the market to reduce by not supporting its latest.
@@ThaaFizzy that depends also on the country because in the Netherlands the 4090 FE is € 1819 but the better ones like ASUS ROG Strix & MSI Suprim X are around € 2100
It’s hard to find for 350 tho. At second hand markets i can see that it’s around 430, however the 7900 gre is 530. so for 100 more u get a brand new card that competes with 4070 ti super. Just my thoughts
@@jzxhrl3923the 7900 gre competes with the 4070 super, the 4070 super is currently $50 more then the normal 4070 while bing 13% faster then the non super, i would consider the super version the better comparison seeing the ti super is $200 more then super and $250 away from the 7900 gre
"BUT CREATIVES NEED IT THOOOO-" said the over compensators in the comments that could have gotten that same work load done with a 4080 or even a 4070 and it wouldn't have made a real substantial impact on their productivity if they where being honest with themselves.... It's FKing stupid, every generation, to buy Nvidia's top end card... Why the fk do people spend 2000+ on a gpu that only preforms like 20% better at max then a card that costs half the price??? When said 2000$ card is going to be invalidated by the next generation 5080 or 6070 for a fraction of the 4090's cost. And that next generation is literally around the corner, anyone who buys a 4090 now deserves the buyers remorse they will have when their 2000$ card is being lapped by a 700$ card in a few months.
Folks have forgotten that the xx90 card is literally just the Titan rebranded so they can consistently say that they beat AMD. It's literally the same price point. Enthusiast and consumer cards were never anywhere near what Nvidia has managed to convince people to spend, and don't get me wrong the AMD 7900 xt and specifically the xtx are also overpriced cards. There's too much segmentation on the low end that confuses customers into thinking that "bigger always equals better", naming convention changes, etc. So they then go spend an insane amount of money to game on a 4090 so they can play fortnite or something in 1080p. Covid and crypto mining were the leaping point for both companies. I don't own an Intel arc nor want one, but I sincerely hope it becomes a viable third option because this price gouging is the inevitable result of only two companies existing to provide a product. Basically everyone else pays exorbitant prices because there's always going to be some segment now who will purchase whatever either company tells them is the best card, and they do that through their numerical and heirarchal naming scheme. @@AlexHonger-fj3nx
Literally Best Buy has them for $1,700 and it’s not like Best Buy is known for their super sales. So yeah while not exactly 1500, way cheaper than your 2,500 estimation.
They had to because the 4080 super is a superior all around card and they couldn't compete with it. Obviously if it's between a 4080s and XTX for $999 you'd be a fool to go for the AMD card. I'm not going to lie though, i'd be upset if I had anything less then a 4090.
AMD is gonna stop competing with AMD on the super high end cards anyway, they're gonna focus on mid tier cards, which is what the majority of gamers are gonna buy anyways, no regular joe building a computer is gonna get a 4090 if they're on a budget
i mean with rx6000 and 7000 it did look like they wanted to test out how much of a competition they can give nvidia in the absolute top end but i think rx8000 wont have any top end performance gpus like previous gens
@@stiegelzeine2186 To be honest yeah I’m probably gonna go for the 7900xtx next it’s a shame they’re discontinuing their top end because I just prefer AMD as a whole now lol
@@xjudoflip7381 Agree with this. Always go for the previous years model if you want the best deal. A 6800 can be had for much cheaper than a 7700 yet still outperform the newer card.
@@stiegelzeine2186 try looking at cards that were top range 20 years ago. the titan xp from 2017 isnt amazing compared to modern cards but for $150-200 its an insanely good card
In uk the 4090 costs around £1600-2000 and I bought my 7900xtx for £800. Why tf should I pay double the price of a 7900xtx for only 20% boost in performance?
@@Slushkin but if you don't wanna attempt modding games and trip anti-cheats, have constant crashes or driver issues, and just enjoy the card, you go team green. this is sad, as someone who used to have an AMD Card, i rarely had issues with drivers, but this was when they still had 15-25% market share. I don't know how they went so low in market share, but it just doesn't pay well to upkeep drivers for them, and it's showing. Those mods you talk about literally either strip the game of actual RT, or lower the quality of RT to the point where it may as well not be there. For actual RT of measurable quality, AMD cannot keep up with nvidia, period. I'm hoping that by next-gen, which for AMD should be this year, that their upcoming cards (navi 44 and 48) will have decent RT performance as well as good bang-for-buck performance for sub $500. As for nvidia, their 5000 series releasing hopefully by spring 2025 needs more RAM with bigger memory bus, and they need to lower their pricing on their entire line. AMD needs to get its compatibitlity issues up and drivers fixed or else they'll never recover from their current low market share. Irregardless, we need better GPUs for less money SOON or PC gaming is going to die. We're approaching second half of this generation of console life, and you cannot put together a PC for comparable money that competes with a PS5 right now. You just can't, not without buying used. I can't ever remember a time where this was the case in years past. We should be able to put together a PC that costs $600 and have it be able to play just about any game out there at 4k 30fps or at least 1080p 60fps, and you just can't.
the 7800 XT is more 4070 Super level as of now and the 4070ti isn't being produced anymore, so the 7900 GRE is in competition with the 4070 ti super now :D
@@brexy9984no bc 7900 xt is the competitor for 4070ti super 7800 xt is the competitor of 4070 and 7900gre is competitor of 4070super Also it is not competitor if the price difrence is 200
@@elsintripas In most games, the difference in perf between the GRE and the XT is minimal. The only real weakness of the GRE is memory bandwidth due to the reduced bus
I agree but it performs similarly, if not better and its nice to have as it will still last longer. I guess the upside of 7700 xt is that it has ai accelerators so if amd release an ai based fsr it will perform much better
Why do people that make videos like this never know what they're doing? Why would you recommend the 7700 XT at 400 when the 6800 has dropped to 360 and even below with more VRAM, similar efficiency and performance.
In my country the only gpus worth getting are last gen...for the price of 4060 you could get a 3080 Prices of relatively new gpus are crazy high in my country, only second hand or sales from individuals are actually worth it
I recently upgraded my GPU from a 3070, and was torn between 6800 XT, 3080 and 4070. I play VR 80% of the time, so that took the 6800 XT out of consideration after studying the issue for a few hours and I got the 4070 for 450€ and it was just 50€ more expensive for 2 extra gigs of VRAM (which is going to be an issue), a 2,5 year warranty and 120 less wats used, which will pay the extra 50€ paid in less than a year.
7600x has a way higher TDP (I think it goes from 65W to 105W) so you'll need a good cooler, whereas 7600 can run the stock cooler just fine. And 7600x is only slightly slightly better, I think 7600 is better because of lower temps
@@tapioorankiaalto2457 If you're referring to the pre VR fix drivers sure. But after they added a truck load of VR optimizations and options in the Adrenaline UI it's night and day. Wired VR though has never been much of an issue so I'm assuming you're referring to the Quest's performance on RDNA. Not VR as a whole. That can be chalked up to Zuck favoring team green.
@@Dave-dh7rt Yeah thats what I got mine for when I messed up my 7800xt. Stupid me knocked 2 caps off that led to encoder. 😑 at least I can run mac os for audio production now lmao
For me its a TOP 5 which covers the entire market... Budget - RX 6600 ($150 - $200) Mid - RX 7700XT ($350 - $400) Mainstream - RX 7900 GRE ($500 - $600) High End - 7900XTX or RTX 4080 SUPER ($900 - $1100) Enthusiast - Nvidia RTX 4090 ($1200 - $1800)
@@Xingxing-ee8mj Depends on which you compare. If you go 6950 xt vs 7900 xtx yes the 6000 series would loose. But 6900 xt overclocked can be as fast as a 7900 xt. It also depends on the games. Titles with no ray tracing doesn't have much of a difference. 6900 xt vs 7900 xt: Dying light 2 in 4k has 4fps in difference Forca Horizon 5 4k has 5fps difference Anno 1800 1440p has 11fps difference But titles with Ray Tracing has a big difference. Far cry 6 4k 19 fps difference The Callisto Protocol 1440p 37fps difference Cyberpunk 1080p 30fps Also you can buy a Devil Rx 6900 Xt red Devil Ultimate 16 GB brand new for $900 while a brand new Red Devil RX 7900 XT sells for $1.400 So you would pay 55% extra for 30% performance in some games and 4% more in others and minus % in VR if it isn't fixed. Another thing, in the beginning the 6000 series would beat the 7000 series in VR games. I don't know if that's still the case with never drivers have been released. So if you are on budget the 6000 xt is beating the 7000 series in value vs performance.
I have a Radeon RX 7900 XTX, as well as a Nvidia RTX 4090 STRIX OC and they literally run within 3 frames of eachother in all games, but Radeon is 1k cheaper. RX7900 XTX is better, simply because of the price per frame.
i could be wrong because i'm kinda new to this but wouldn't a better cpu be better? in case you want to have like discord and some stuff open while your gaming while 6 cores and 12 threats is enough for gaming only i think some extra 2 cores and threads would be ideal here with your specs , i honestly would go with a R7
