That B.P. Crimper tool makes a funky looking crimp. The Precision Reloading crimper makes a really professional looking crimp. Uniformity is important.
@@richielsmith5332 I have not really put them on paper and measured. But shooting steel I can keep them on a 3/4 sized 100 yard target. And inside a soft ball @ 50 yards very easily.
I've been using brass shells for all of my shotguns for years. I bought a bunch for each gauge a long time ago. They work really well for blackpowder reloading. You need a few slightly oversized shot cards when loading slugs or pumpkin balls as well as shot so you don't have to worry about crimping. Also with blackpowder, you basically can't overload the powder and the cases last virtually forever because they aren't exposed to as much pressure or constant resizing and trimming like with rifle or handgun ammo. You can use smokeless powder but you'll have to resize and trim the cases and they won't last more than 6 or 8 reloads before they split
Nice how-to video but I always stick with the hulls fold crimp. Saves a lot of time and work. Will also get more reloads per shell than with the roll crimp procedure. Another nice advantage about fold crimping is after the fingers of the fold crimp have finally worn out their welcome, you can then start cutting off the damaged area above the crimp line and go to the roll crimp. I use 2 1/2" Winchester AA hulls, 15.5 gn Lil' Gun powder, the commonly-available Claybuster CB5050 shotshell wads, and then (x3) .375 or 3/8" lead balls. The fold crimp comes right down on top of the ball! I've also used chromium ball bearings and the similar slugs which you used in your video. All of them are very nice loads that I've tested in my Mossberg 500 410 and Harrington 'n' Richard single shot 410
Another way is to use a 410 wad like a Stretch from BP and just cut the pedals off and that is your seal , many ways to do it for sure. I appreciate your video very nice and informative. How big should the slug be 41 caliber pistol wad cutters ??????
Good morning Curtis! I like ta size bullets to my bore much as one does with rifled barrels. I can only recommend 41 slugs when you have NO CHOKE OR CYL BORE. Otherwise you could have problems. I size my slugs to my smallest bore diameter.
Nice job on the reloading !! You seem very knowledgeable, always thought reloading would be a nice hobby, but I don’t shoot enough to justify buying all the equipment for it ! Great video sir !!
You need to look at the survival handloader kits being sold for shotshells and some of the videos on homemade reloading tools for .410. You can get started pretty cheap that way!
😮Turns out you can use Matt's Bullets .41 cal hollow base wad cutters as perfect .410 slugs. Cheap and they fly perfect and straight with 16 grains of 300-MP powder. Give them a try. Just use a nitro card over the powder, a 1/2" fiber cushion wad and then as many nitro cards as needed to get the column height right for your hull.
Lil Gun is a great powder for 410. And the MEC reload is a nice piece of equipment. Ballistics products gives some great 410 loads for buckshot and slugs along with equipment and supplies.
I just picked up another lever action 410. I need to learn how to do this I believe lol. Quick question, can you shoot Hornaday critical defense through a full choke?
They are a fat bullet for most full chokes. Its a 40cal IIRC. So Id say probably better not. But ya gotta believe Hornady wont release something that could blow someone up and they know most all 410 shotguns are full choked!
nice reloads! I finally got a MEC 600JR set up for 410 so I will be loading some soon. I only did a few so far. I have a roll crimper too. I trim a lot of mine to 2 1/2" when reloading so I can shoot them in my governor.
In hull goes Powder Over powder seal Cushion wad Projectile SOMETIMES a card on top not required. Could be plastic or "oak tag" type not critical. Hope that answers the question. ❤👍🏼👍🏼
What is this “slug” and where did u get them, or did u make them? Nobody is making heavy slugs but you-as far as I can tell. And as far as I am concerned an 85 to 100 grain slug is no slug at all! But a 200 grain slug is a real slug, eh? But, as I am new to shotgun reloading I don’t even know what the diameter of your slug is. So a little help please. JWC
I thought I had outlined everything in the video… Sorry that I didn't. I am using either 40 caliber or 41 caliber cast bullets. But you wanna make sure that you don't have a tight choke. These are designed cylinder bore barrels. No choke. Yes I cast my own bullets.
@@cw2a cool, you should try the conditioner. It's kinda like annealing your "crimp zone". If you do try it, just be sure to have a couple of dowels that fit snugly in the hull. You'll want to put the hull on the dowel immediately after conditioning it to let it cool for a couple minutes. It prevents the mouth from curling or shrinking as the condioned hull cools. Anyway keep up the good work Sir!
Hey cw . Awesome video man. Ur shotgun fix to jrb been doing shoot gun series 12ga in 410. Kind what I thought mold was for is 410 slugs. With hp that should make a awesome performing load for coyote hopefully.
Who doesn't love the .410's, haha. I have kicked around the idea of casting .40 cal bullets for the same purpose. To start with I'll focus on the .390 & .395 Round Ball then maybe I'll experiment a bit.
G'Day from Australia, After 50 years of lugging around 12 gauge double shotguns, I recently bought a light single barrel .410 shotgun--a Boito. Enjoying carrying and shooting short range rabbits with it. I'm thinking seriously of reloading the empties with black powder and#6 shot--left overs from when I shot muzzleloaders , years ago. I'd also like to load up some solids--I have 36 calibre round balls, again leftovers from my muzzleloading shooting. I'm not sure of their exact diameter but they roll past the full choke of my Boito. They should fun to shoot and possibly effective on close foxes. What game would you take with your loads? Here in OZ, 20 gauge with solids is the minimum shotgun gauge that is allowed for deer. No buck shot. I enjoyed watching your video on .410 slug loads--it gave me ideas that I can work on. Cheers, Steve
Hello across the world!!!! Morning Here Steve! Thats awesome my friend!!! I use mine for Coyotes so if you have wild dog or Dingo problems they would work fine as here. Our Eastern coyotes are 50-75#. Wolf ancestry? They are not small like our western Coyotes of 30-35#.
What is the diameter of the slugs and where do you get them? I tried 148 grain 38 spl hollow base wadcutters (hole down) using the Claybuster wads in short shells with inconsistent results. Some key holed. I think I need to slit the wads all the way down to make sure it releases or use filler wads. I am using the Claybuster for shot and 4-000 buck loads in 2.5". Much the same method you are using. I am also making up a light shot load out of 45 Colt cartridges for my single shot. Good snake and pest load.
Ya are gonna want final diameter as close to the tightest constriction of your barrel. So if full choked, (like most 410's) that gonna likely be .388-.392 I made these up for my cylinder bore guns. They are .410 so thats what these projectiles are.
@@cw2a Mine are cylinder bore. I do have a full choke barrel for the pump in the safe and I am aware of the constriction. I have .40" 4 ball 3" load I will only shoot in a cylinder bore.
My 2 - .390 ball loads shoot real well from my full choked guns and my last "Slug" endeavor also shot really well but failed a few times when slug separated from wad. This might be better...
Hey i have 16 lbs of tite wad i see people load 45lc with it using between 3.5 and 4 gr. With a 200 gr bullet im shooting mine out of a darringer for 45 / 410 would you work up some 410 loads with that powder .
@@cw2a it is fast I load 1 ounce slugs in my 12 gauge with it recoil is less than Walmart birdshot but they fly great only 16 gr so it goes a long way . I see alot of people like it in 9 mm and 45 acp and few used it for 45 lc thought it might work but I have not been reloading long enough to play with new stuff because ill be shooting them out of a pistol that also chambers 45 lc
State to state regs differ. Factory slugs are heavy 38 spl/lite 357 Mag in power and loose that FAST!! Meaning past say 50 yards they drop to 380 power levels... These are fully 41 Mag PLUS power levels but still drop pretty rapidly.
@@fanbatcher Shattering would be a more of a factor of the slugs hardness. Most slugs for shotguns are cast or swaged dead soft so not likely to shatter but could still come apart if velocity was enough.
Ill try that thanks! Its a "wood" speed press I run as slow as I can. I have one with screw in and a few full and two as Cyl. I shoot the Cyl bore (cut offs) most. This are for CYLINDER BORE GUNS ONLY! As they are full .410 dia I wont shoot thru these a choke.
Again, this is a 41 magnum wadcutter bullet. It's not originally made to be a 410 slug. I'm using it as a 410 slug because I have a cylinder bore gun. Meaning, no choke whatsoever. The mold is made by MP.
@realtreegamekeeper84 mine is not currently avalible because of restrictions with Russia. (It is a Russian made mold). Id say watch ebay and gun/casting forums. Hopefully one day the restrictions will change.
I don't reload .410, but I prefer a slightly deeper roll crimp on my 12 and 20ga rounds. Can't imagine why you would recondition the end of a hull and then cut off so much, unless you were just showing off your skiver. Some of that WD-40 you use on your roll crimper is going to find its way to the round's powder. Try paraffin instead.
That is an MP mold. It's made for the 41 magnum and I only recommend it in the 410 if you have a cylinder bore. Meaning no choke at all. Otherwise it could be dangerous because if it's larger diameter. Most 410s run a full choke, which will choke down to about .390 or so making a .410 Projectile Way too large.
@@ClarkesonTheMarksman 420 hulls today are not as vastly different as 12 ga can be. Take suggested shell and compair and do capacity testing and decide for yourself. I have yet to have issues.
Morning. A half ounce load is 218 grains and the projectile you used was 197ish, 21 grain difference with no disastrous consequences. What would happen if you used the same powder charge but instead used a 230 grain projectile, 12 grains over the recommended weight? Thanks man
Sorry no I am not a manufacturer. But start up loading Shotgun & 410 for your self can be real cheap. There are a few videos showing home built tooling (basically just file enlarged washer) to size. Rest can likely be done with odds and ends in your garage.
If you had cut them to length and skived them your crimps would have been better give it a try the next time or just skive the ones you have as you shoot them have you shot any of those plinkers with that was made for the triple ought buck
Good video, but some suggestions regarding your videography. Before posting, watch your video objectively, or have someone else watch it, and see if your instructions are clear. In a few cases, you are blocking our view or your camera isn’t positioned for the viewer to see what you are talking about…the skiving of the cases for instance. Another example is your modification of the stump wad. We see you cutting in, but your fingers are in the way and it’s a long shot from the overhead camera, so it’s kinda blurry.
@@crazyhuckman1 Your gonna appreciate them. I believe its some thing every re loader should have. Quite repeatable. Verify on a scale, but you will see consistency. Good luck man! ❤️🩹👍🏼🤟🏽
