My 7 Patch Tips for Moog Grandmother 

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oops forgot to pin it lol, thanks!

Thanks!

I've never owned a hardware synth and I really want to get into hardware. Is this worth purchasing or should I look elsewhere?

Sir, the way you explain the stuff is just perfect... i love the last tip with the circuit of the reverb, almost organ-like! look, one question though: Is there anything you can do „wrong“ with the patching? Can i harm the granny by doing a „wrong“ patch? i‘m going to get one of these babies cause i just cant resist anymore 😅

Do you have any thoughts as to why they put a delay but not a reverb into the Matriarch? It seems a bit odd, since otherwise the Matriarch is much more powerful. Yes, from what I've gathered there are a few other things the Grandmother can do and not the Matriarch, but they sound relatively minor.

@@NuisanceMan Matthew here from another account: I'm now very lucky and happy to own both the Grandmother and Matriarch. I think they did it just to differentiate the synths a bit. The Matriarch signal path is different with all the stereo options, but I'd guess that putting the spring reverb tank in there would have made them too similar. I can't say I miss it on the Matriarch, but it would be nice to have.

Agreed. Just got my GM two weeks ago and this video has me super surprised and happy with my purchase

@@acidfunk11 How's it going with the Grandmother, 3 years on?

@@G.Man- I bet he's had an intense relationship with grandma that's still going strong...

@@NuisanceMan 😂

What do you feel about it now?

Christo Roppolo its a great synth, but the tech is decades old, mostly

Fin it’s the most iconic circuits that Moog has ever created .....in a mono synth that is truly patchable.and I love mine peace Christo

Fin oh and I think it’s much more Moog like than the sub thirty seven series ever was. Peace Christo

Christo Roppolo i agree on that

awesome, glad you dig it!

@@onceuponasynth Hope you're keeping well, we miss you

you're a good grandson

once upon a synth it’s easy to love her when she makes such cool music when i touch her all over.

Just curious how it’s goin’?

First off I want to thank you for this video. And I am with you big eastern syndicate onyour questions. Among other Synths I ownI also have a GM which is pretty much on top on my list as my favorite Synth that I have. With that said I am no musician at all, can’t really play the keyboard very well either. So I also listen to this and other demonstrations on patching and like you I can appreciate all these different ways you can use and change the sounds.I have NFC how to use these different sounds creatively. I just don’t have the talent to figure out how I can use each different sound and make it sound decent in any sort of musical sense. I come to the same questions of just listening to a piece of music, I pick out little sounds here and there in a song and wonder how they figured out that sound and how to use it. It might just be a little bell sound, or some string sound, etc. and it really makes the music pleasurable. It’s just so frustrating not to have a musical gene in me. Anyway, again I really do appreciate tips like these, and even though I might never know what to do with these different ways of generating sound, at least I have more avenues to explore.

thanks for the feedback! I'll try to incorporate more of the "why" in future vids. I wanted to keep this vid as short as possible, so it's always a tricky balance.

Thanks! I will def do more Blofeld tutorials, but I'm still in the honeymoon phase with the GM so I need to give her the attention :)

Thanks! Good question. In theory you could just patch it in between the filter and the VCA, that way it will be processed by the reverb. But you'd have to convert the 1/8" to 1/4" and back. I'm also not too sure how the levels will work, because the level from the filter output will be hot (it's before the amp) so I'm not sure if that would overload the pedal. Maybe I'll try that with the phaser moogerfooger one day and hope that nothing blows up 🤞

Good point that! Would the level be lower ( I could be completely off here ) if we get the signal out before it hits the filter ?

it might actually be higher. Or rather, it's probably the same, but the filter will at least attenuate it slightly if partially closed. But actually I just remembered there's a mixer before all that (lol duh), so I think it should be fine cause you can control the level of the oscillators there. So yeah, adding the pedal anytime after the mixer should be ok.

Jonathan O'Brien I’m having the exact same problem. Pulling my hair out.

Same thing here. Funny thing is that according to the signal flow diagram in the manual, everything that goes through the VCA has to go through the wet/dry mixer. So if that is on 100% wet, no dry signal can come through. So we cannot hear OSC1 and the Noise. Only OSC2 on an endless sustain. So our experiences match the flow diagram. So either he has another version of the machine, which is unlikely, or he does not have the Reverb fully open, although it does look like it on the video. Unsolved riddle. Please, Once Upon a Synth, help us out!

I found the solution! Somehow we assumed that we should set the Reverb to fully open. This is not the case! The Reverb out on the back is always fully open. So if you keep the reverb closed everything works as demonstrated!

Gerard Meerstadt you’re a star mate

Try closing the reverb knob off.

ImagoMediaProd same thing happening for me!

See my solution in the comment above. Keep the Reverb closed, the reverb out is already open by itself!

​@@GerardMeerstadtthought something was very wrong, Thank you!

i'm having the exact same thing. Did you already find a solution? Thanks

I"m also having the same problem. Has anyone found a solution?

Hi, just stumbled over the same problem. :D Just turn the reverb knob to the left (very contra intuitive). The signal is kinda weak, but you get the result from the vid! (That wasn't my solution, found it on Reddit)

Yea i also have this problem, any suggestions?? HELP

a real dying cat is so silent and hiding

There are no preset saving on the GM, so you have to remake it every time.

@@onceuponasynth Aww man. That's too bad. I really wanted this keyboard based off of what u do. And Idk how to even play keys. Lol

I haven't tried, but it should work

also wanted to send midi notes like 256 from abelton to gm but don't know if it will receive the tie,rest and gates?synthlib.com/brands/moog/instruments/moog-grandmother/patches/grandmother-floyd-s-machine enjoy my patch

When you do this patch you should have the reverb knob fully closed.

@@bazookaofficial2064 Thanks for the advice. I’ll try giving this patch another go. Cheers

yes im having the same issue. no idea what the problem is. Did you find a solution yet?

@@driesferiani Well, it helps to NOT have the drone on...derp. But still, I ended up updating the firmware regardless due to some later discoveries. I had some issues with it not recording sequences. A bit unsettling having the up the FW having only owned a Moog for a few days. I haven't gone back thru this vid to see if that helped but if I do and it did, I will DM you the result

@@maddmannmatt Thanks man!