Canonically, the Trade Federation was very much a Lowest Bidder operatio n, and everything was made with Disposibility as an explicit specification to cut costs. Explains a lot, doesn't it?
not too mention most of their equipment was not meant to be seen as military use but to be later repurposed into military equipment. so they could build a military without officially building a military
@@Yawyna124 they didnt pay for them with credits though. The species that makes them accepts payment in rare meats. Something a trade federation has no issue aquiring.
After playing this thing a lot in battlefront 2, the main cannon is the most useful part. Compared with the TX-130 The fact it actually has a primary cannon. The AAT basically has a 105mm vs the TX-130 which has basically the equivalent of 2 40mms that are fixed into the hull like a tank destroyer without tank destroying capability. The AAT could 100% be streamlined, remove the rockets and the 4 secondary guns, lower the profile and instead have a higher power gun with a coaxial, since its autoloaded you could remove 1 crew man, gunner, driver, commander (reason to separate the commander and gunner is to keep crew work load down and you could still give the commander a mounted mg to play with). The tactics of the tanks are actually pretty good in the clone wars show, as they show them moving at platoon strength (of course the droid operators are really dumb and die anyway). But they show that the guns firepower is significant enough to destroy AT-TEs (a also very flawed vehicle that could use its own redesign) in only a few hits. They even show a real tank tactic in the show where the AATs target the lead vehicle and the rear vehicle to trap their enemies in a kill box.
And assuming you did retrofit it with a droid brain you'd still need something to repair it. Then again you could just use regular repair droids and just shit them out the back and keep the battle droids as more infantry. It's kind of like why the US military don't use auto loaders in their tanks while the soviets were using them in every tank since the T-64. To have a loader do grunt work and have an extra hand when things go tits up.
@@Leadlobotamist A new droid brain type also puts an extra load on the control ship and/or infrastructure. Not ideal for peacetime when they are trying to keep costs down.
This thing feels like the Trade Federation hired some Soviet tank designers who escaped the Great Purge. Front hatch? T-34. Troops riding on the outside? T-34. Multiple guns/turrets? T-35. The rest of it is just bad design pure and simple. I thoroughly enjoyed listening to the commentary, and whole heartedly agree!
I think a soviet tank designer would do a far better job. The T-34 was a good tank for its job. Provided the tank was blown a part but who cares if there's a T-34 that went boom there's 30 more right behind it.
Not gonna lie, I didn’t even know the side guns were manned by two other droids, nor that it had 3 compartment to enter. I thought it had two compartments, and the disk in the front was just a bit of extra armor for direct shots. I though that the driver also had control of the secondary weapons because it made sense for self defense. Like “Oh they trying to flank, let me just turn the tank to face them and keep the armor on them while the main cannon keeps on primary target.” But damn so much wasted space lowers armor amount, and the hatch there is just extra wasted armor space. Not gonna before I know these two things I thought the AAT was not the best Star Wars tank, but still an overall good tank for what it was made to do, but now, damn.
And the turret at the back has near zero gun depression in the forewards arc... so the main gun is most effective when pointed anywhere the tank (and other weapons) isn't pointed...
The amusing thing is the tank is far more likely to die when shot from the front, not the sides. The front has at least 12 shot traps I can count from just the stills in the video alone.
With a few upgrades this can be one of the best tanks in Star Wars. Most sci-fi tanks are over the top big and over the top heavy with over the top weapons and would realistically only be useful in somewhat developed worlds with specific terrain features. Something like a river delta or the moon's soft surface would make most sci-fi tanks useless. And you want to log these heavy, big tanks across the stars to your destination? Are you crazy? This tank however? Its design lets you stack it by placing one upside down, most tanks of that size can be destroyed by a single hit from any anti-tank weapon so making it overly protected isnt useful and its repulsors make it useful for most worlds that you encounter. Upgrades would include removing the rocketlaunchers, this cheapens the vehicle and makes it lighter while losing little firepower outside of a few edge-case scenario's, but in those scenarios the reduced cost let you bring more tanks so its a win either way. Second, droid brain. We see the fighters come with a dedicated droid brain, and if its absolutely necessary you can build a few free-standing B1 droid brains to man the turrets. This leaves more space inside for power generation, ammo storage and armor. Speaking of turrets, those two side-turrets should be able to pivot left and right on top of up and down. As for the big turret, assuming the repulsors can also attract to stabilize the vehicle during uphill movement then the turret being that far back lets you absorb more recoil, besides that the long barrel already seems to absorb most of the recoil. Add some anchorpoints for droids at the back for transport (they hang in those transports anyway) and solid anchor handholds at the front for transport before battle is joined and this tank is done. This makes for an excellent Star Wars light tank: cheap(er), lighter, easily stackable and stored, can traverse almost any planet regardless of how developed it is and has a lot of solid firepower. Especially as a support vehicle it has great uses while still being capable enough as a frontline combattant or scouting tank that packs a punch similar to the Centauro family of combat vehicles.
Technically speaking, I think the tank was originally designed with human pilots in mind. As the Clone Wars progressed the Sepis began to invest more and more into autonomous droid tanks. ^^
tbf.. That was not just "a clone" but a Geneticaly defective clone taht made him, because fucking stupid plot reassons, way more physicaly strong then any other clone.. or even most other species.. ever(i fucking hate the idea of the bad abtch)
One flaw you didn't touch on was the main turret placement. That thing needs to swap places with the 'laser charge pack' in the cutaway drawing. As it is, its own power supply (god only knows how volatile that is) is on the *highest* *frontal* part of the tank. Not only does that put a potential weak spot on the side that's supposed to be facing the enemy - now it's interfering with the main gun's ability to aim down anything more than a slight incline. Coming over a hill? Main gun's out of action. On the edge of a valley? You can only use the main gun by turning sideways, pointing all the OTHER weapons away from the target.
At least in WWII Era, infantry did ride on the outside of tanks as ad hoc way to have mounted infantry. They would deploy on foot as they got to the battlefield, and would not be on the tank in combat unless the unit got ambushed.
This is why I have been so disappointed that there is not an instant kill mechanic if you blast a rocket into it's holes. In the games those things are damn near indestructible unless you also use a tank
That's because they aren't lasers. They are called that as a holdover name wise for the older laser weapons that were used before blasters. Blasters are infact based on partical beam technology. A real life comparison. The term "rifle" is a weapon the orginally referred to the old flintlock weapons that had rifling. The term is still used in modern rifles... which admitily still have rifling... ok perhaps a better example might be blue prints, but you get my point.
Every time something in Star Wars mentions a “laser” replace it with “plasma” things make a LOT more sense that way. Unlike most of the equipment designs.
@john smith Death Ray wouldnt be scientifically accurate. They arent rays. They are bolts. Blaster bolts are explicitly and exclusively particle beams. Wtf do you think is going to happen if you stick your head inside the gigantic fucking particle cannon buried under Switzerland rn? And besides, its a hell of a lot more scientific than the bullshit pseudo-science Star Trek makes up to justify its constant use of macguffins in EVERY FUCKING EPISODE MY GOD VOYAGER WAS SHITE! Edit: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AEPM-Bqc8fQ.html&t
I think they were selling those lowest bidder tanks to whoever wanted it. That's why there was a drone crew inside, instead of the later 2 wheeled all drone tanks
Oh god another thing, the power converters, which seem to be the only thing transferring power from the power generators to the rest of the craft, seem to be entirely exposed with literally no armour. I get that they are marked as "very hot" so you can assume they need to expel heat, but why not just put an armour plater in front of them? Or use a cooling system? Or move them somewhere else or anything to make them literally not the perfect target. Also, when someone inevitably does shoot them, the shrapnel from will be white-hot and I can swear I remember seeing them with infantry marching around them! They're effectively asking to be stranded in the middle of the battlefield with no power and take out any infantry within 20 feet from them!
I feel this could be improved by making it a kinda larger vehicle so it's no longer a tank but rather an IFV. Pull the bottom launchers off, and kinda wrap the bottom armour/repulsorlifts into that big negative space below the turret, and even if you don't add a sealed compartment for infantry they can kinda crouch behind the front armour. It's not a great solution but it cuts down the massive footprint this this has, so it's less cumbersome and allows it to be used outside of big open fields.
It was used like that later, especially in the clone wars show but this is the gen 1 model, when the trade federation used droids in LINE FORMATIONS. THEY DEPLOYED THEM STRAIGHT TO THE BATTLEFIELD IN LOW BATTERY/STORAGE MODE SO THE DROIDS HAD TO WAKE UP AND WHERE CONTROLLED FROM A SINGLE SPACESHIP WHICH IF DESTROYED WOULD SHUT DOWN THEM ALL. Idiots the lot of them. The only sensible droid from phantom menace era is the IG series droids. Or as they are known better "the tax man".
@@jebbus132 i mean.. in defence of the Trade federation.. they never planned on actualy fighting a war at that point, they used their Droids as Security forces and to intimindate planets. not ever actualy fight a major war with And everything they do was designed specificaly to be as cheap as possible. the AAT was designed for organic operators, and the Trade federation put droids in it as it was cheaper that way then to redesign or aquire a fully Droid brained tank, the Battle Droids had no motivators, thus where cheaper to produce, with the drawback of a Central controll signal being required. The later models had either a partial motivator, which woudl allow them to execute the last recieved command and slight autonomy, and evne alter full (altough cheap) motivators which allowed them to act fully autonomous with verbal commands being enough. HOWEVEr the CiS(and trade federation) being cheap as always, never botehrd performing regular maintanance on the droids, like deleting their Memory units... Thus the regular rank and field Droids became "chatty" and stupid as we know them from TCW. same with the Low power mode, it was cheaper, and more space efficent, to store them in the MTTs disabled, and deploy them far enough away form the enemy(under tank support, and dong forget the MTT cannons are pretty strong as well)that they arent under imidiat threat then to deploy them already active, they obviously changed that later as that tactic works against regular militias and planetary defence/police forces, btu not against a Trained clone army. most of EP1s "weird shit" in terms of droids can be explained by the Trade Federation being cheap as heck in terms of their "army" and the fact they where used in a fashion they arent realy "meant" to be used
the rocket argument issue actually happens in Battlefront 2, they need to be fired on flat ground, also the reason they are crewed by droids is the AAT is intended to be both used by droid and organic crew, believe it or not there were a significant portion of non clone organics fighting on both sides of the clone wars although you make a point in the sense having a drop in brain kit to run it by itself with the option of a B series or organic crew would be a neat concept
The explanation for these things comes from who was using them ie the trade Federation who were who as a race were greedy businessman not fighters Who’s weapons probably came from their armaments division who in turn used them to showcase and test their latest products as tor the light tank I suspect it may have module that for a much bigger tank that could detach
I love your brand of "S" talking sci-fi vehicles. If you ever want to try your hand at something absurd I would love to get your take on Warhammer 40k's "boarding torpedoes" and "drop pods".
6:56 reason for why no drips brain incredibly expensive and they did have a different repulsor tank entirely built around that concept but it wasn’t successful so units were very scarce
Anyone who doesn't think Ewoks are terrifying has not thought through all of the cannibalism. They were going to eat Luke and friends, then there were a whole LOT of empty helmets in the celebration at the end
In principle, a repulsor tank should be just a floating turret with a droid brain. Just a box with a conical peace of heavy armor in front. But then, droids should be just heavy blaster on a repulsor field with a brain and armor. Just small versions of the tank. More firepower better armor, faster, less mechanics that could break. But then, it woud not work in a movie.
In star wars, if it's called a laser cannon (this also applies to blasters and turbolasers), it's almost certainly actually a plasma cannon. the notable and sole exception in the films is the a-wing, because of how no one used actual laser weapons for many millennia, due to the defence against them just being armour made to be reflective, and thus scatter the light. (this is how the a-wing got away with that. no one expected their enemy to actually use lasers at that point in star wars canon)
Over an order of magnitude increase in sub in a week. If my math bites I became a history major because of math. :D I've always loved your content and attitude, even if I like the things you critique. Don't ever change that. Do you go after books? I'm thinking David Webers Honorverse. I'd love to see your take on it. The comics don't count IMO.
Oh, I second that motion, Their ships are simply the most consistent with their Universe! And is true, wtf happened to grow of 1000 to 5000 in a week(I suscribed then)?
I have no idea what's going on any more. Diagnostics indicate about 600 new subs a day starting at last week's episode. The Honorverse gives me a headache, but there's been enough requests for it, I might consider it.
@@SacredCowShipyards Honorverse ships/combat doctrines/weapon systems would need a multipart breakdown to just explain them before even getting to the ships themselves... And boy do I remember one image made to explain how the ships armor works and completely fails the logical purpose of armor...
The jankery with the drive systems, and how that makes ships functionally invulnerable from above and below, all in the name of forcing 2D ships-of-the-line combat into 3D space is primarily the source of the headache.
Untill the battle of Geonosis revealed the cumulative hulk of the separatist army the size of private armies and the size of war-specialised droids was limited by republic regulations the same way UN regulations made battleships impossible to be produced, thus putting a droid brain in a tank at the time of the conflict on Naboo was not possible for the Trade Federation with its resources alone.
The point about the rocket launchers being so close to the ground is an actual problem I have in battlefront 2 where my missiles will hit a tiny hill and miss completely
That's when you park the tank, kick the crew out, and use the main gun as a sniper platform and this is why you don't make me run on 6 hours of sleep and then work..
Hello! I just discovered your channel and have been catching up, great stuff, really funny! Can I make a request? Can you do the Gunstar from "The Last Starfighter"? I know there's a lot of love for the Starfury from B5 (which I share) but if I had to pick a fictional ship to fight a "real" battle in- it would be the Gunstar. It has the same engine layout as the Starfury, has tracking turrets so you don't have to point the whole ship to shoot something, and carries missiles and 4 spinal mount particle beams in case you need something really dead. Plus it's FTL capable all by it's self, so you can run the hell away if you need to. The only downside to the Gunstar vs. the Starfury is that the Gunstar is bigger, and takes a two person crew to be fully effective.
I never liked hover tanks. It feels really, really heavy handed most of the time, especially when they're not properly explained. Some people argue they would be good scout units and while I can see that, you see so. Many. God. Damn. Tanks. I wouldn't mind hovering scout units, scouts are meant to go fast, break lines, and overall fuck things up by moving faster than the enemy can shoot at. Why is this more believable? SCOUTS AREN'T MADE TO BE SHOT AT (with anti tank weapons)
i always loved this tank, but i cant deny how bad it is, but then, that is kind of the CIS charm, lots of cheap mass produced cut-every-corner products. On another topic, are you going to cover star citizen ships? Particularly the Caterpillar would be cool.
Ok, so a trade talk that should have been half a day has now turned into a full blown negotiation. Is there any long term (like 2+ weeks) parking in the dock, or do I have to get shuttle service and have my ship in orbit? Sincerely, Annoyed humanoid Reptile (and no, Zuckerberg isn't one of my people) who thought that this was going to be an easy security and transport job.
And the trade federation wondered why they got whipped by a bunch of "primitives" chucking energy grenades at them? I'm not even going into the stupid on that one.
Funnily enough, the whole hover idea of tanks pushing back after being hit with a cannon actually makes their armor more effective. Also, the turret just straight up can't aim down
@@matthiuskoenig3378 I guess that can help, but it doesn't completely alleviate the issue. Moving the turret forwards would help, honestly if you take the middle section and move it down and forwards a bit, the design works much better
@@SacredCowShipyards yeah, it could only be considered a benefit in a wide open field with no risk of hitting anything. Even then, I don't think it's a good tradeoff
the front hatch is a round shaped T-34 hatch. so basically invulnearable. isnt the main gun supposed to be a big blaster which fires plasmabolts? so its kind of a kinetic weapon ^^
This thing mows down infantry if it boosts forwards it legit would just run them over. This was my favorite thing to do in the old Star Wars battlefront games.
Ok i have to say it, and then the US got the bright idea to sit infrantry on their tanks, so the infantry could just hold on and go WHEEEEEEE while the tanks zipped along.. completely exposed, to the elements, enemy fire, but hey i guess its ablative armor. Took the candians to think, hmm, we need a vehicle thats tracked, that can keep up with tanks especially off road, that has armor, but can carry infantry inside protected. Yes lets make a Kangaroo! and yeah, the AAT's were a horrible design.
Lasers absolutely do normally impart recoil, Newtons third law doesn't have an asterisk stating 'except photons', it's just typically too insignificant to need consideration. I did the math once, enough power to completely vaporize a human would kick like an air rifle.
You make fun of the rocket tubes but they've won me plenty of engagements in Battlefront 2. If you're close to another vehicle and the angle's good you can just rocket shotgun them in the face. Good luck hitting anything smaller than another tank with them though.
7:29 Three hatches for four guys - Yes. Its TRADE Federation you know. They sometime want to SELL those things to squishies. For money or goods. Shocking from a TRADER :)
It could still squish squishies: the repulsor field would still be distributing the weight of the vehicle onto the ground. Which means it’s still vulnerable to mines. I thought the rear hatch might be for dismounts, but that means the droid crew is also infantry. Yeah, no. The only explanation for the droids-in-a- box design would be a Frank Herbert-esque cultural taboo against embedded AI autonomously operating vehicles. This would explain the astromech droids in X-wings, etc., but it is not really satisfying either. In other words, George Lucas sucks at rational world building.
Amusingly, repulsors are one of the few cases where that doesn't work. Their functionality is tied to the world's geomagnetic field,(which is why walkers still persist - some planets have sucky magnetic fields) which means no squished squishies. And don't forget that A/B-wings have their own onboard astromech computers.
@@SacredCowShipyards I don’t recognize anything Star Wars after Return. So, the tanks are operating by the Meissner Effect? No. No. No. Not to mention that they would be uncontrollable due to local irregularities in the local geomagnetic field (see, e.g. magnetic deviation…Heck, a large iron deposit would be an effective tank trap.). And, Newton’s Third Law still applies, the mass has to be felt somewhere (orbital aberration?). As I said, Lucas sucks at world building. The Millennium Falcon has a built AI as well, but can the astromechs of the A- or B- wing fly independently? It is just horrifically inconsistent. I look forward to the Viper and Cylon raiders getting cubed.
I liked the AAT in the Clone Wars tank game. Sure its got a massive blind spot in its rear. But at least its fun to drive. The AAT was originally designed for organics to use. It was just cheaper for droids to man it as it can allow organic commanders to use as well.
That’s why the seps invested in droid walkers and tanks like the Hailfire droid, homing spider droid, NR-N99 tank droid and the octuptarra tri-droid. All of which can squish the squishies.
I think the original purpose of those droids weren't made for military roles. I know the Hailfure droid was original designed for riot control and debt collection.
It's technically ablative armour. I fucking love it.. So the deal is that the AAT was designed for living personnel. Thats why it was designed the way it is. You touched on this in an earlier video concerning large mechs. If your mech is "human" sized it can use human equipment because the scale is the same. Thats why this abomination has no droid brain. It was never designed to be autonomous. It required people, and when the trade union and others started using them, they had to assign droids. As you stated, a terrible vehicle and also it takes up four droids which would most likely be better used somewhere else. In all honesty though, this ISN'T a hover craft. A repulsor field can be stabilized, whereas a cushion of air can not. They just never bothered in the Star Wars universe because they played it for comedy. Your other concerns are all valid as hell though. Why are the launchers down there, why is that massive gun so high and to the rear? Again, because it looks cool, and for no other damn reason.
@@robertharris6092 Heheheheh. Poor tactics on the part of the commanders is no reflection of the utility of the units. Those droids are capable of so much more. They just didn't bother because they were following the overwhelming force docterine. Just keep throwing men (droids) into the fire until you win.
The droid compartments and escape hatches are so organics can use the tank _when it's captured by irregular forces_ on a occupied planet. … Wait… that's not a design feature that was specified, was it? But that many hatches are necessary so that a ion grenade can be popped in the crew compartment from any side. And the front hatch is for the droids to escape from, when infantry get too close to the rear, as the anti-personnel guns only cover the front and the main cannon can't angle to hit infantry below a certain range that approach from the rear. It is so screwed in any built up area - okay not the best place for any tank, but 360° anti-personnel coverage is generally considered useful. Bonus *negative points* for the commander not having a remote weapons station to aim the commanders "machine gun".
Can't the side-guns rotate to fire to the rear. The tank can then turn a bit to create a field of rear fire while the main Canon continues to bombard forward targets.
What I love about AOTC's droid designs is that they kind of made logical improvements over all droids in TPM. E.g. the B2 Super battle droid or all forms of tank droids seem to respond to all the faults you see in episode one.
Its important to note the trade fexeration isnt supposed to have an actual military. Theyre a rebelion. Not a legitimate govornment. Their equipment befote the war broke out was meant for use against rebelions and pirates and for tax colection. Not waging war.
And you didn’t even get into how high of a profile this tank has or how limited the main gun’s elevation is. Roughly the entire rear half of the vehicle is a permanent blind spot where even the main turret can’t turn and fire at you.
Funnily enough, that's actually where the gun has the BEST fire arc. You don't have that ridiculously tall crew compartment to block your depression. Theoretically, to maximize the gun's effectiveness you'd hide the majority of this things body and just poke the main gun over the top of whatever wall/ hill you're hull down behind facing the front of the tank away from your kill box.. That said, this thing was purpose build for Civil war era tactics, you line up in nice neat rows and blast each other on a nice flat field. The dumbest strategy short of ignoring logistics. In that particular role and setup, it's not the worst thing lucas could have shat out. On a different note, these things aren't slow. In the games they could book it really damn fast, and were a hell of a lot of fun in the Battlefront games, and the Clone Wars game in MP. If a decent commander or general was given these and told to use them, they'd use them in salt the earth blitzkrieg raids, you roll up on someone's property, remove them and that property, and go on your merry way somewhere else before a more reasonable armored unit came to show you the error of you tank's design.
@@orangedream267 To be fair also even if they had generally inferior equipment, if the CIS trounced The Republic utterly in one area, it was logistics.
@@allthenewsordeath5772 funnily enough, not much was really inferior. Droids were just dumb because lolfunneh. In reality the CIS should have utterly mopped the floor with the Republic. Especially considering the good bits of equipment. Like the CIS gunship, and the buzz droid fighter.
Aah yes, the tank made by the Trade Federation. The very same Trade Federation whose army is made as cheap as they can. And yes, I recall watching the clone Wrecker pushing three off a cliff. At the same time.
The design problem of the gun barrel acting as a lever arm is hilariously illustrated in Phantom Menace, when Jar Jar Binks inadvertently pulls an AAT off-course (and plowing into the ground) just by hanging off of it I don't know how much a skinny Gungan weighs, but I'm sure it should take more than that to overbalance any decently designed tank
@@andreykardashov6343 just had a look at the scene, they did indeed barrel of monkeys a little bit at the end there 🤣🤣 The tank had already most stabilised again by that point, so I'd still say it was Jar Jar alone who tipped it Poor AAT's can't get a break 🤷♂️
fun fact: lasers actually do have recoil, it's just so minor you cant detect it without highly sensitive sensors, and lasers do in fact impart a force when hitting a solid object, there is a conceptual idea for interstellar ships to use solar sails for this very purpose. AAT tries to run over squisy, squishy lies down and hover tank just hover over him harmlessly, squishy proceeds to plant sticky explosive on the underside of the tank, squishy runs off and tank goes boom. AAT trise to fire missile at republic scum vehicle, therte is a rock in front of AAT, AAT goes boom. AAT loads missile, clone sniper sees missile in tube so sniper shoots missile thru big hole. AAT goes boom, another 6 AAT's that happen to be to close to eachother also go boom fron chainreaction, exept for the one to the far left... because it had droids hanging on the outside going "WEEE!!" that effectively functioned as ablative armor.
Eeeeh. First situation is a theoretical weakness of literally any vehicle with enough ground clearance to go over a person. If someone wants to go under something without falling under the wheels, then by golly, they'll find a way. There's really no advantage to doing this above trying to get into a blindspot-- which the AAT has a relatively massive one-- unless you're going for a "pretend you're a dead body" strategy, which, again, works on any vehicle that has the ground clearance to pass over a man-sized target cleanly. Running up to it in order to get ran over requires you run in front of something hostile to you that has 8 small guns, 1 artillery piece, and 6 missile batteries, which is a terrible prospect for almost anything in existence, not to mention the potential of actually getting hit by it, which would not be fun. As for "but getting into its blindspot requires getting through zoning infantry!", well, yes, but so does getting in front of it to collapse to the ground and place sticky explosives on it. Per the second: this isn't particularly an issue considering they have multiple tubes along the breadth of the vehicles wide base. While if wouldn't be able to shoot missiles while shooting from a trench because of their low mounting, it's also likely they're not shooting them into man-sized obstructions considering they'd be be able to notice them, considering that entities have the ability to see all parts of the tank in front of them. The bigger weakness of the missiles is their likely incredibly distant convergence point due to how widely spread they are. That last situation is more an argument *for* having the missile tubes low on a tank because "low and forward facing, embedded in armor" is the antithesis of a sniper being able to effectively perform anti-materiel duties. It would be a lot easier to perform anti-materiel maneuvers on an AAT with the missile tubes positioned high, where snipers and, indeed, everything else, have a better vantage point on them. If you didn't know "Lower than man level and directly in front of a vehicle with 6 missile tubes, at least 8 guns, and 1 artillery piece" is exactly where a sniper does not want to be. The missiles would be generally fairly well shielded from most angles of attack sitting at the back of the tubes. The effectiveness of such an attack might not be too great anyway; the armor of those tubes would also have to be fairly substantial, considering it is not a recoilless system, and it is an area that repeatedly absorbs back-blast, meaning it probably has at least *some* protection from chain-firing/munitions exploding, leading to it exploding mostly out the front, through the big, wide tube that leads to the open atmosphere. As for SCS's "pinballing them around"... that would really only work if the same mechanisms that keep them from tipping over, absorbing their own recoil, and that move them suddenly stop failing while at the same time the tank stays above ground. Bear in mind, they have to absorb the full recoil of the missile's booster motors every time they fire one, along with that of the heavy gun which does apparently produce substantial recoil. While getting struck with a shell would require them reset their gun's alignment on their enemy, that is the same case for any self-propelled guns that might be able to take enemy artillery fire without getting outright destroyed, albeit to a lesser degree.
We'll, an old Chief of mine told me about you. He accused you of being me (not a complement in my mind), but I'm assuming that if you spend enough time at sea we all sound alike. And I love your channel, so I'll buy him a drink anyway. Great concept; keep up the good work and I'll spread the word (for whatever that's worth).
@@347Jimmy not even a comparison. Its a mandalorian tank vs something made to be used by a non military force for fighting pirates, rebels, and tax collection that values quantity over quality to the extreme.
@@robertharris6092 they're good reasons why one would expect it to be a vastly superior tank And it is I wasn't trying to make a fair comparison, I was offering a contender for "the best tank in Star Wars"
Apparently the gunsight is good enough to acquire starfighters taking off from the hanger in Theed, that's a plus because most times tankers can only hunker down and pray the giant metal death bird leaves them alone.
I'd love to see you rant about Gundam vessels and technologies, not the mechs themselves but things like their space cruisers, 'starfighters' and an actual flying tank. Yes the turret, with its main gun that is in a casemate, comes off the chassis and just flies like an aircraft for a brief period of time.
The variants that are just Self propelled guns/weapon platforms are where the frame is useful if ever, but because they don't have to be in direct line of fire. It looks cool at least lol.
MBTs dont need to be seen. The leopard 1 was purely designed to be unseen and fast with a potwnt gun. And its one of the most effective tanks in history.
Warhammer is meant to be over the top to be perfectly fair. Baneblade: fucking fortress Leman Russ tank: British MK4 on steroids. Titans: WALKING CATHEDRALS OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION
After seeing this and your dissection of the Razor Crest, I'd like to see you tackle two other ships please. Moff Gideon's light cruiser from The Mandalorian and the U.S.S. Cygnus from The Black Hole. Thank you for the vids sir ^^.
The AAT is my favorite Star Wars land vehicle. It looks like a tank. It isn't some ungainly walking thing, it isn't some floating brick. It is sleek and has a top mounted turret with a main gun and 365 degree rotation. Yes I agree it is a stupid design, but it looks awesome. I think a Mk. II would be amazing. Ditch the rocket launchers & fixed forward blasters, put the arm cannons on ball mounts for more degrees of motion, add deflector shields, and give the commander a pintle mounted blaster cannon. Maybe adjust the design in a few places, but I love these tanks.
You obviously missed the turbotank. Now that thing was a meat grinder. The empire only discontinued it because it was more efficient than "shock and awe" which didn't follow their doctrine.
@@andreykardashov6343 you mean the reskinned Republic Juggernaut? That thing is massive and would eat artillery for breakfast lunch and dinner. Not to mention it seems they're lacking in much offensive firepower. Theyre big transports, not tanks
@@sgtNACHO yes it would eat that artillery and just keep going. Also, have you checked the cruising speed on that thing? It's biggest weapon is its own mass. Like the big boss said, for squashing meatbags.
@@andreykardashov6343 i dont think ramming is the best weapon in a universe with extremely deadly spacecraft and speeders. In Mandalorian Season 2 they were shown as incredibly vulnerable, in Rogue One it was also quite vulnerable to be taken out by a few rebels and a robot. The only time they are ever shown to be worth anything is to drive onto a beach and shoot some rockets. It is very cool looking, always enjoy seeing one, but they're pretty much pointless. APCs arent used anymore because we have helicopter dropships and IFVs.
Tanks are for crushing Squishies? I thought they were mostly for getting big boomy canons right where you need them to blast the squishies out of their holes no matter what kind of protest they give you. Also note the pattern in the missile tubes in the front. They can't shoot too closely. In the game Battle for Naboo AAT's had a huge weakness you were encouraged to take advantage of. If you got close enough to get under the main barrel's arc, then you were too close for it's missiles to properly deploy. In other words if you get right up to these things then they can't do spit. You can jump right in front of it, start dancing and all it can do is try and fail to run you over or try to run by itself so it can get into range to kill you. Bit of a design flaw that.
This guy is like Gordon Ramsay but for spaceships, I love it. Also could you consider tearing apart the tie fighter line please, while bearing in mind the training resources invested into the pilots?
