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My Best Advice For Thru Hiking Footwear (after 11,000 miles) 

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Your feet and the shoes you wear is the most important part of any thru hike. You've set off on the 2,650 mile Pacific Crest Trail and now you must walk that distance, comfortably, and happily! You must take care of your feet, and finding the right footwear for you is a good first step in doing so. So here is my best advice when it comes to hiking shoes.
Take note of what the most popular shoes out there are! But keep in mind just because they are popular doesn't mean they are the best for your feet! Try them in different sizes and be sure! Try them locally on trails before trying them on a thru hike. A problem with a shoe near home is a much better problem to have than a problem out in the middle of a long distance hike. You may love one of these popular models or brands, but don't get it and use it for the sole reason that it is popular. Everyone's feet are different. Try them on, test them out, return them, whatever it takes.
Some of the most popular shoes on the market:
Altra Lone Peak 6 - amzn.to/3ugD4Cm
Altra Lone Peak 5 - amzn.to/3Gbtm6D
Altra Lone Peak 4.5 - amzn.to/3oaWiFK
Altra Olympus 4 - amzn.to/341fsXC
Hoka One One Speedgoat 4 - amzn.to/32K3d1d
Topo Ultraventure Pro - amzn.to/34pZdDC & Womens amzn.to/3AHFtY6
Topo Ultraventure 2 - amzn.to/3rcBv6A & Womens amzn.to/3udbDJx
Brooks Cascadia 16 - amzn.to/3odqLmG
Merrel Moab 2 Ventilator - amzn.to/3IOmCgS
The shoes I have personally been wearing:
Merrel Trail Glove 6 - amzn.to/33VWBgR
Xero Mesa Trail - amzn.to/3g8ycqD
Xero TerraFlex - amzn.to/3Ha20z4
How long should shoes last on a thru hike? I've known people who replace shoes after just 400 miles and I've known people who have squeezed more than 1,000 miles out of a single pair! I think you can guess at who would have the lower chance of injury. The person who replaces shoes more frequently. Not allowing a shoe to get too worn, the cushion totally deflate, or rips up the sides form letting rocks enter the shoe. Somewhere in between 500-800 miles is ideal. But use your own judgement! This isn't a science as everyone beats in shoes differently. I am 190lbs and 6'2" and I will go through shoes much faster than someone who is 30lbs lighter than I am. Always pay close attention to your shoes and how beat up they are. Take note of how your feet are feeling, and buy new shoes when necessary. Comfort is much more important than durability here. If a shoe feels amazing but only lasts 500 miles I would rather have that than a shoe that lasts longer but doesn't feel good.
Don't stock up on shoes before a thru hike, buy as you go. Your preference for shoes may change, and certainly the size of shoe you wear will change. Buy online as you go, or find a store in a trail town.
You must try them on first. Whether that is at a local running store, REI, or buying a few different sizes from amazon where you can easily return them should they not feel right. Buy the shoes that feel amazing from the first try on. If they rub you in a weird way, if they feel funny, if they are too tight, or too loose they are likely not the best shoe for you. They must feel perfect from that very first try.
Don't expect that a shoe will 'break in' over time. Most modern shoes and especially trail running shoes do not have a break in period, and if they do it is very minimal. If it doesn't feel right from the first time you put them on, don't expect that to change 100 miles from now.
Consider half a size up. During a thru hike your feet will get bigger, they will get more muscular, they will flatten and your toes will splay, your feet will swell. So I think a half size up is a good bet, overtime you may find you need a full size larger, or even more! Start with the shoe that feels best, but over time take note of how your feet feel and if you need to go larger next time.
If during your hike you find that something isn't working, don't be afraid to change and try a different shoe. I saved my Arizona Trail thru hike by changing shoes when my first pair was causing problems. If I had stuck with that first pair I surely would have found myself injured. Just because you bought it, and shoes are expensive, try not to resign yourself to it. The overall hike is more important.
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@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
As a little extra here, if you are having struggles on the trail try different lacing techniques! Some can help relieve pressure in certain areas and help prevent blisters or just make a shoe feel better overall. Thank you for watching!
@Marcela.Isabel
@Marcela.Isabel 2 года назад
Like the runners loop lace 👍🏽
@RC-qf3mp
@RC-qf3mp Год назад
Do you have a video on lacing?
@Henning_Rech
@Henning_Rech 2 года назад
Top notch thoughts. Facts like "durability depends on weight" and "different trails need different shoes" are rarely mentioned, but reflect my (very little) experience.
@ceciliawisen79
@ceciliawisen79 2 года назад
Gotta say it's refreshing to hear that you don't praise one brand only, but encourage people to try on all kinds of shoes and find whats best for *them*. That is sometimes forgotten when people ask for advice.
@rogerc7972
@rogerc7972 2 года назад
I traded the word "shoe" for "mate". Then you were making good sense- deep thoughts to ponder. The perfect one feels great from the get-go, no break in period needed!
@tacklebill4835
@tacklebill4835 2 года назад
Good solid info again Thanks Jupiter!
@mateidan6623
@mateidan6623 2 года назад
Love your videos bro. Keep up with the good work.
@bassenji5565
@bassenji5565 2 года назад
So much wisdom in one video, this is the best summed up video about thru hiking shoes I've seen :) Thanks Jupiter! I hope go get on Arizona Trail next year. Greetings from Belgium.
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
The AZT is such an amazing trail, I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!
@ThanatosWings
@ThanatosWings 2 года назад
I tried on a bunch in an athletic store in the middle of nowhere cause my shoes died and I liked the Saucony Peregrine 11. Probably something I would have never wore but man they're super comfy, my new fav. Light, med thick sole with rockplate, good on wet rock, and cloth is weather proof and strong. Thanks for the info. So right. And I love how soothing you sound tbh. Very calming. Great vid.
@reneemccammon1935
@reneemccammon1935 2 года назад
Loved this info thank you.
@nicholasrokitka380
@nicholasrokitka380 2 года назад
Solid video Jupiter! In regards to cushion.....I've found that hoka speedgoats are super stable, where I've found other hokas and all brooks to not be. And at 6'4" and 210 lbs, the cushion helps my knees a lot. No real trail feel but that just the deal. Like you said, it's gotta be what feels best! Keep up the good work.
@kayasper6081
@kayasper6081 2 года назад
For my last hike I bought a pair of the Merell Moab 2 shoes and absolutely love them. One size up, like you say.
@TheDeterminedRunner
@TheDeterminedRunner 2 года назад
Some good advice on the video. Everyone is different & we all have different feet, I prefer to size up a little if needed as the longer your'e on your feet then the foot can swell. Trail runners can be great for hiking, it's just a matter of finding what works for you 🏃👍
@seanben3843
@seanben3843 4 месяца назад
Love your content brother ❤
@viveviveka2651
@viveviveka2651 Год назад
Good points. Thank you. 🌻
@ronsowers1763
@ronsowers1763 2 года назад
I am really diggin' my Mesa Trails I picked up a few months ago. I may never go back. 5mm stack height is proving to be very comfortable to me. Good stuff man. Thanks for your input.
@syindrome
@syindrome 2 года назад
Spittin' shoe truths right here 👍🏽 Just want to comment on the Hoka stability remark since I've heard it from several hikers that haven't actually worn them: from my experience a higher stack is NOT inherently more unstable. I have twisted my ankle on flat ground with 5mm stack Reef loafers and been stable on trail with Hoka Challengers. Ankle strength and mobility is a big part, but also how sloppy or not the fit is imo will play a more important role that the stack.
@lysaallman-baldwin2559
@lysaallman-baldwin2559 Год назад
great insights! thank you
@Brandonreisinger
@Brandonreisinger 2 года назад
thats a killer shirt dude! I used Merrill trail gloves for all of 2021. I noticed this past year I hike completely different with those shoes. I step intentionally and therefor my feet take less wear and tear. The thinner the outsole the more comfortable I feel. its a weird thing.
@matjobin
@matjobin 2 года назад
Great to see someone else using the Mesa Trail. Picked a pair up last summer and they've been really digging them so far on the trail. For me they've been very comfortable, great ground feel, quick drying and light. I'm happy that they have the zero drop and foot shape too. I bought a pair of the Xero Alpine and they've been great with the deep cold and snow this winter in the northeast. Loved the video Jupiter!
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
The xero shoes feel better on my feet than I knew any shoe ever could. Stoked to have found them!
@matjobin
@matjobin 2 года назад
@@JupiterHikes I couldn't agree more. They feel great and help give a deeper connection to the trails. Enjoy and good luck on the PCT this year!
@stevewright2241
@stevewright2241 2 года назад
I stopped using trail runners by accident. I was using Topos. I still like them, but I was having hamstring issues. My hamstrings just felt weak all the time. My knees and feet ached all the time. I bought a new pair of hiking boots that were on sale around Thanksgiving. I wanted something to wear in the snow and sloppy weather of winter. Other than trying the boots on for fit, they stayed in the box. I probably had them for a month before I started to wear them after the weather outside finally started to get bad. The thing I noticed after 3 days of using them was my feet and knee stopped aching. My hamstrings started feeling better. I think the issue I'm having with the trail runners is the drop. Even a Topo with a 4-5 mm drop still needs to be higher for me. I got high arches. I'll keep looking for a shoe, but I think I'm over low drop shoes.
@affalaffaa
@affalaffaa 2 года назад
Used Merrells to begin with but quickly moved over to Altras, admittedly after seeing them being very popular on vids I watch. Merrells, looking back, were too thin but as soon as I put on some lone peaks I knew it was the one for me. Still stick with them and had a few pairs, the 5's wearing a bit quicker than the 4's in a certain place, but still the most comfy shoe I've ever walked in.
@LiahusN
@LiahusN 2 года назад
Used a merrel for around 4yrs. Now using quechua from an online decathlon store. Quite happy with these. Found them better than columbia shoes both in grip as well as waterproofing
@tiger2too18
@tiger2too18 2 года назад
Many helpful points here. Hope the PCT goes well. Some sections of a thru hike are different, Mojave Desert is softer than Oregon with some volcanic pumice like rock etc. Perhaps different shoes for different sections within a thru hike. Having lived in Jordan and now S Korea, there are fewer brands that are available than in the USA. A trail running shoe you do need to try on, website mail order buying could go terribly wrong.
@austinkopp9811
@austinkopp9811 2 года назад
I have some super minimal Inov8's that I loved, but after trying a set of Lone Peaks I think the inov8's are my training show now.
@douglasstraight3648
@douglasstraight3648 2 года назад
Good advice.
@safromnc8616
@safromnc8616 2 года назад
Appreciate the video Jupiter. I have to say this has probably been one of my bigger challenges over time. I am very flat footed and and strung super tight. So no drop shoes are not happening. I tend to need something sturdier, and prefer a rock plate....and that's taken me a while to figure out.
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
I wish there were one shoe to rule them all, one shoe we could all love. There isn't but in the description I tried to list out some of the most popular thru hiking shoes out there. Not on the list but Oboz Sawtooth 2 are very common as well. I hope you find what you're looking for!
@janefreeman995
@janefreeman995 2 года назад
I got a few pairs of timps and lone peaks that were basically brand new at a rei garage sale then I inherited 2 pairs of superiors from my mom, so I was all set for the pct for very little money for shoes. Even tho more cushion the timps for me started to roll inward fairly quickly. ... the lace up area is off set so that seemed to be the culprit. I tie my shoes using the 'runners knot' . This helps the shoe to slip less moving downhill. And I use injinji socks to avoid blisters.
@Maniaks755
@Maniaks755 2 года назад
I still haven't found the perfect shoe, but for me with weak arches the most important is a solid pair of orthotics, and a stiff heel cup to prevent any rolling or arch collapse. So far this has always meant going back to Asics and NB for me, but forever on the hunt for something new to try. Great video, Jupiter!
@cymbolic_space1832
@cymbolic_space1832 2 года назад
try rehabilitation. check out Chase Mountains channel. lots of videos on how to exercise your feet to help heal up your arches back to the way they would have been if you had lived 400 years ago.
@msears101
@msears101 2 года назад
To fine tune and add some additional points to add to what is said. Your natural gait and the way the shoe is made will help determine the longevity and durability of a shoe. Watch you tread, look at where your footwear fails, and how it is constructed. Some reinforcement in certain areas could help lengthen how long a show lasts.
@clayp520
@clayp520 2 года назад
I like the Asics Venture Gels. Comfortable and budget friendly. Mine are durable as well. So far about 400 miles.
@gracebarrett-johnson
@gracebarrett-johnson 2 года назад
Too many consecutive 30+ mile days on the AT turned my feet from a size 8.5 to a size 9.5 or 10. Even after they recovered and the swelling went away, none of my size 8.5 shoes fit quite right anymore, and neither do size 9's. Such is the life of the hiker/trail runner :)
@simonschuebel
@simonschuebel 2 года назад
Saucony Excursion 14 TR last year on the PCT and the Wonderland Trail they lasted 1200mi/pair. I replaced the insoles with Dr Scholl's after 500mi. Other than that the perfect shoe if it fits your feet. They started to get uncomfortable after 1100miles but were still going strong so I guess I could have used them for another few hundred miles with some new insoles...
@jedikaren8112
@jedikaren8112 2 года назад
I love my merrell moabs!
@jimdonegan4762
@jimdonegan4762 2 года назад
Good points. I bought Altras because everyone else did. They didn't work for me. Glad I got them at REI.
@mhmpotatoes5373
@mhmpotatoes5373 2 месяца назад
i so agree with the trying everything. i got a pair of xero mesa trails a while back after seeing so many people say they were the best minimalist hiking shoes and while I liked the thickness they just fit like garbage and i couldnt wear them.
@omglolwots
@omglolwots 2 года назад
Saucony Peregrines are it for me. I'm not one to do huge days like you, but I'm not exactly unable to do decent mileage. They got me through my first 22 mile day and my feet (and body) felt great after. Altras wrecked me. Every foot is different, so it's such a personal thing and it can be difficult to find the right shoe.
@gone4days956
@gone4days956 2 года назад
I use the Speedgoat 4’s. Love that shoe.
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
It is definitely a very popular shoe! I've heard the same sentiment from quite a few friends.
@coasternut3091
@coasternut3091 2 года назад
I still love my Vivos. When I added padding, I got shin splints. I got rid of the padding all together and haven't been hurting since
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
I have always wanted to try vivos!
@KevinSmith-wr1sy
@KevinSmith-wr1sy 2 года назад
Thanks!
@theoriginalrabbithole
@theoriginalrabbithole 7 месяцев назад
I like Merrell Moab 3 non-waterproof, hiking shoes with Dr Scholl's Heavy Duty Work insoles, instead of the Merrell insoles they come with. They fit true to size, need no break-in and they're light and very comfortable. They also dry out faster than waterproof footwear, that always gets wet anyway.
@josephhirsch1796
@josephhirsch1796 2 года назад
I really enjoy this topic. I love boots and they make me happy because of the ankle support. I can't wear trail runners because I have big feet, 14 wide in shoes and 15 wide in boots. And Outdoors 76, in Franklin, has a great outfitter to help you choose new shoes, if your on the AT.
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
That franklin gear store is the best! My grandfather used to live nearby there so I have been many times
@josephhirsch1796
@josephhirsch1796 2 года назад
@@JupiterHikes that's so cool he lived nearby and did he do any backpacking? I have Obozos and I am very happy with them.
@Arrynek01
@Arrynek01 2 года назад
This was perfectly timed. I am just now in the throws of picking out shoes for my first long distance hike (400miles). I even considered S/Labs Sense 8's but disqualified them over too low stack. After seeing your shoes, they are back in...
@Greghikes1
@Greghikes1 8 месяцев назад
Hey Jupiter! When can we expect to see your GDT video? 🤞😁
@waguar
@waguar Год назад
I really love my Hokas, the cushioning is fantastic, used them on so many day hikes and mountain climbs and always felt great after. Then I brought them on a shorter thru hike, and the toe box was just too narrow as my toes started splaying more outwards. Got lots of blisters because of it, broke my heart too haha because I really thought I had found the shoes for me. Shame Hoka don't make any shoes with a wide toe box.
@vutEwa
@vutEwa Год назад
topo athletic. just put some trail venture 2's on and wait for your feet to start singing. way more stable than any Hokas and in my opinion has the perfect level of cushioning.
@vickirogerson179
@vickirogerson179 2 года назад
Paying for shoes that don’t work out is painful, but much less so than an injury and doctor’s bill. I’ve learned this one the hard way.
@heartattackhiker3527
@heartattackhiker3527 2 года назад
I am starting out my next hike in a pair of Timps and then switching to a pair of Lone Peak after about 400 miles. I am prone to foot injuries early on. So I believe it will be better to start with a little more cushion until my feet have properly adapted. I also do most my training on pavement and I have found that I do not like walking on pavement in Line Peaks.
@heartattackhiker3527
@heartattackhiker3527 2 года назад
Stupid spell correct
@garciasthree
@garciasthree 11 месяцев назад
I had some shoes from ONE and ALtras and both have given up on me quite fast :( i got Saucony that are many years old and stood the test of time. So im looking in to more rigid asics or saucony for my next pair.
@vutEwa
@vutEwa Год назад
Hey Jupiter, have you ever suffered from metatarsalgia? I've been struggling with finding the right footwear for this problem that cropped up for me. I have mountaineering boots. I bushwhack and scramble and build trails. Boots are great for that but can't go far. So I have been playing with the Topo Athletic Trail Venture 2 and it's enabling me to go further but then off trail I get more foot problems just trying to maintain stability. I know probably I should kill hiking until my foot gets better, but honestly I'm addicted and have two trailbuilding projects that I don't want to put on hold. Trying to schedule out my time in a general sense and looking at 2024 as the earliest date I can thruhike the CDT or the PCT. But really I think the CDT will be my first because of it still being so remote and "make your own adventure" as a part of the hike. I need to get better feet, hoping though I can just back off of my extreme activities but still hike. And finding it a bit difficult to do that although those Trail Venture 2's are pretty dang good and I can hike 20 miles of Big Sur without experiencing too much foot pain.
@Mr_J_J
@Mr_J_J 2 года назад
I have really high arches and couldn’t live without Hoka (and Sole insoles). Medium cushion models like the EVO Maffe…although waiting for some of the updated models mid-year.
@Mr_J_J
@Mr_J_J 2 года назад
I just wanted to follow up and let everyone know that I am going to try out the Xero Terraform II to see how they work for a training show that strengthens my feet. Maffetone mostly goes barefoot are the house and uses these when trail running. So that’s enough for me to try out for training to see if it help train and strengthen my feet. I’ll still be using Hoka for distance at least that’s how I see it now but I’m open to evaluating that in the future!
@minhhop3208
@minhhop3208 2 года назад
In short, What are some brands of hiking shoes are good, comfortable? According to your hiking experience ? Thanks for sharing
@northtexashiker
@northtexashiker 2 года назад
My perfect shoe is the Altra Lone Peak. Perfect blend of comfort and protection from rocks. But I have almost flat feet and I think they don't work very well if you have high arches. Been wearing altras for four years now and last about 8-10 months before they get too worn down.
@dolcevita713
@dolcevita713 Год назад
Altra’s durability is terrible especially for the price!
@williamespinosa9094
@williamespinosa9094 Год назад
It's absolutely mesmer
@gandordunar6489
@gandordunar6489 2 года назад
thx !
@Marcela.Isabel
@Marcela.Isabel 2 года назад
I was just at REI the other day contemplating about upgrading my Altra Lone Peak 5 to an Olympus 4 because of the cushion. I can see the huge possibility of rolling my ankle with a shoes that has much cushion. Still doing my shoe research so this video came in perfect timing. Thanks Jupiter 🧡
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
Try them out! You might love them, just something to be mindful of while walking
@toocleanpappas5397
@toocleanpappas5397 2 года назад
I've used Olympus's on the AT, PCT, and CDT, it generally takes about 3 days to get completely used to the height, and I actually rolled my ankles less in them than my Lone Peaks. Your ankles will actually get stronger from adjusting to the height.
@trekker68
@trekker68 2 года назад
Altra compensates for the height of the Olympus with a wider sole on the shoe. Compare it with the lone peak, roughly a 1/2 in wider. I don’t think they did this several versions ago. I’ve used both for running and hiking since their 1st versions. Chaco z1 sandal are my favorite hiker.
@WALKITOFFDavidSmith
@WALKITOFFDavidSmith 2 года назад
I've tried everything from Altras to Hokas, and they're great, but my wide ass feet have fallen in love with New Balance "More Trail". I don't know why more long distance hikers aren't talking about these but I'll put them to the test on the A.T. soon. Enjoyed the video Jupiter and looking forward to following your journey on the PCT. I know you'll crush it but best of luck anyway.
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
That's good to know! The wide feet is a struggle. I often have to skip a lace just to loosen shoes in the middle or front
@WALKITOFFDavidSmith
@WALKITOFFDavidSmith 2 года назад
@@JupiterHikes I've tried several lacing techniques for the same reason but the More Trail works for me. They're lighter than the Hokas and breathe better (for me). There's a guy named Shaker Hikes that recently completed his Thru of the A.T. and his More Trails got a pretty crazy amount of miles...speaking to their durability. Check 'em out.
@andyveres3982
@andyveres3982 2 года назад
Yeah boyyyyyy
@davidsixtwo
@davidsixtwo 2 года назад
I went from an 11.5 to a 13 in the first couple years of longer hiking trips, but since then (10+ years ago), my size has stayed the same. I'm a big fan of La Sportiva Wildcats, even if they're a bit heavier than Altras. I've owned more than ten pairs since they were released, and the design barely ever changes. They last a bit longer than lighter shoes, but they still have much more stretchy and breathable uppers than a boot or a waterproof shoe.
@HighSpeedNoDrag
@HighSpeedNoDrag 2 года назад
One of my favorite hiking shoes in recent years is the Garmont Dragon Tail GTX. A little warm in the summer but solid and a superb alternative to a hiking boot(s).
@rivercitymetaldetecting9854
I have the MNTs. Tank of a shoe. If they fit you you should look at the Zamberlan 215 Salathe. I haven't touched my Dragontails since I bought the 215s. They are what I wear daily anymore lol.
@cottontalesfromthetrail5474
@cottontalesfromthetrail5474 2 года назад
I wear the Altra Lone Peak Superiors. The zero drop shoes are tough on senior hikers Achilles’ tendons, but I went barefoot for six months preparing to wear the Altras. I change shoes around 400 miles, maybe 450 if I need to stretch them. I think trying new things is a great hiking philosophy. Happy Hiking Jupiter
@luboyanev
@luboyanev 2 года назад
You might have made a typo there. The Altra Lone Peak and the Altra Superior are different models, there is no model called Lone Peak Superior :)
@cottontalesfromthetrail5474
@cottontalesfromthetrail5474 2 года назад
@@luboyanev you are absolutely correct. When you get old and get going fast you can and will make mistakes. Thank you for the correction!
@luboyanev
@luboyanev 2 года назад
@@cottontalesfromthetrail5474 you're welcome, we are all getting there sooner or later :) happy trails sir!
@kylemckinney_22
@kylemckinney_22 2 года назад
I would recommend Lalo tactical.
@rschreck876
@rschreck876 Год назад
I love Hoka’s but later in the day I am constantly tripping over stuff in them, kicking rocks, roots, etc. All that cushion makes me lazy so to speak.
@cyrusroshdieh9977
@cyrusroshdieh9977 Год назад
Guys, check out the shoe company Wildings from Germany. They probably aren't suitable for thru hiking but for everyday life they might be super helpful preperation for your feet
@NewEarthAwakening
@NewEarthAwakening 2 года назад
I’m a tiny female so I’m happy to hear that my 90lbs body weight might afford me a shoe discount for my upcoming PCT attempt! :) Maybe I’ll see you out there. When do you hit the trail?
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
I'll be out there in the beginning of May! I hope the shoe discount serves you well!
@peterjohnson6273
@peterjohnson6273 8 месяцев назад
The shoes you threw away at the 1:20 mark, what were they? The uppers looked a bit beat up, but the tread looked almost new.
@TheDonlukas
@TheDonlukas Год назад
Nice video! Id love to hike my next trip in trail runners but what haoprns if it rains all the time and its really muddy? I think hiking boots are better for this. Has anyone experience with rainy muddy weather amd trail runners?
@danielkutcher5704
@danielkutcher5704 2 года назад
I weigh 210 lbs. I get about 350 miles on the AT in Altra Lone Peaks. I use orthotics for flat feet. My feet look like a duck's feet, with a narrow, but blocky, heel, so I need a deep, narrow heel pocket to work with my feet plus the additional height of the orthotic, or I get heel rub and blisters. Hope this helps someone. Btw: I own Xeros, New Balance Minimus, and Hoka Stinsons. The Hokas have too much padding and too much height which makes it easier to roll an ankle (for me), but I had to try them out of curiosity.
@christopherch7307
@christopherch7307 Год назад
Looking forward to a new post from you brother.
@leventsak32
@leventsak32 11 месяцев назад
Every sneaker feels amazing when you try them on the 1st time when you're in the store. The problem is you don't know how comfortable its going to be until after 2 weeks of wearing them.
@seedmole
@seedmole 2 года назад
Lots of good tips in here. I've been doing dayhikes in Luna sandals (thin ones, the Leadville Pacers), and I've doubted whether they'd work well enough for long distance hikes because of how much they can beat my feet up. Recently picked up a pair of Topo Terraventure 3s, and now it's back to having to manage laces and socks for me which had become pretty foreign to me. Also it's funny, I expected them to be roomier but I suppose my feet may be on the thick side already due to the minimalist sandal hiking.
@chrispiatt2235
@chrispiatt2235 2 года назад
That's a smart hat you're wearing.
@jacobdebernardi4385
@jacobdebernardi4385 2 года назад
The trash can string going up to your room is quite ingenious
@Renegade498
@Renegade498 2 года назад
"Don't be afraid to change" is a big one. Related to that is also don't be afraid of a model or brand because of what you've heard about them. Personally I use to be happy with Altras, then I transitioned to Inov-8s Terraultra, then I ended up giving Hoka a go. These were all so different, and yet they each made me happy at different times depending on what my feet wanted at the time. Nowadays I am really loving La Sportiva shoes. Based on what I heard on the internet about them I never would have thought they'd be right for me, but yet again I was glad I tried new things and ended up being very pleasantly surprised.
@Heritage3911
@Heritage3911 2 года назад
There’s a shoe out there for everyone. It might take you a long long time and hundreds of dollars to find the perfect shoe, but you will eventually find it, and then they will discontinue it or change it. So, if you do find the perfect shoe you should buy about five pair of them or you will wish you had.
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
True! Though hopefully they do improve it for the better, it usually isn't that way. Still some of the fun is in the search!
@RC-qf3mp
@RC-qf3mp Год назад
Great video. You just got a new subscriber. Very thoughtful in explaining what to look for and what conditions to consider in buying and using a shoe. One question/issue though - you say two incompatible things regarding size and comfort. On the one hand (or foot!), the shoe should be super comfortable in the store. On the other hand (or foot!), you recommend sizing up. But if I size up, the shoe will feel too big, right? I just did the Camino in Salomon XA Pro 3D gore Tex (I know, everybody shaking their heads). It was cold and wet and gore Tex was great until a few hours in and my feet felt suffocated. And my feet definitely got bigger during the day (swelling) and more importantly, feet got permanently bigger (weeks after coming home, I keep on wanting shoes about 1 to 1.5x bigger). The main problem I had on the Camino was foot fatigue after about 20-25km that became grueling at 30km. A few days I had to walk farther just to find a place to stay (cold, wet, windy conditions in winter). And on the Camino, you see almost every type of terrain (no snow, but some ice). So here’s the question and problem I have- I’m loving a new pair of Altra LP 7 i just got. 9.5 vs the size 8.5 wide salmons I had. But I’m thinking with a backpack after 25 km, perhaps I’d want the extra cushion of an Olympus 5, which you don’t like so much because of the stability issues of max cushion shoes. So my question- how should I go about testing/trying a shoe like the Olympus 5 (and anything else you’d recommend), other than buying the shoe and hiking 30km with a backpack? Should I go up ANOTHER half size compared to my Altra LPs if I get the Olympus 5 for my next Camino or comparable thru hike? Part of me thinking to just stick with the LPs, and see how those feel after 30km with backpack. But my Salomon’s were fine until about 2 weeks in and I gradually added more km per day, then got more aching and blisters (despite two layer socks, and no problems before). The fact that feet swell and get stronger/bigger creates the problem of buying shoes that are too big in the store and, so, won’t feel comfortable in the store. So main questions (to summarize): 1) how big is too big in sizing up for thru hiking shoes? 2) my feet fatigue after 20-25km of thru hiking with backpack (with shoes too small for me). What’s the normal range of distance a thru hiker (without excessive weight in bag and normal weighted person) should be able to go without getting foot fatigue ? 3) if foot fatigue is the limiting factor in my hiking distance , would the Olympus 5 or other max cushion shoe be recommended by you?
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes Год назад
May want to look into lowering your pack weight as well if you're experiencing foot fatigue after 20km. Especially for a trail like the Camino where it's not exactly a wilderness hike, there's much opportunity to carry less. If your pack is quite light already, maybe more walks, hikes, runs around the neighborhood prior to the hike to build up those muscles. Potentially in a more minimal shoe to exaggerate for your feet those walks and try to get more benefit from them. As for your actual questions. Try buying from REI if you have one, or a company that has a good return policy like REI where you could full on use the shoes to see if you like them and if they fit, but then still replace them if you don't like them. 1 too big of shoes will be sliding around, and the problem would be blisters. You won't know for sure until you try, and too big of shoes could just be laced differently to prevent those blisters if otherwise they feel good. (I wear too big of shoes for instance) too small of shoes is much worse as you can do less as they squeeze your feet and prevent blood flow. 2 I can walk 35+ miles in a day (week after week) without foot fatigue or very little. Everyone is different in their fitness level and what is comfortable. Do what is comfortable to you, while raising fitness and lowering pack weight. 3 I think you could try the Olympus to see what you think. But I still think that a mid cushion shoe (more along the lines of an altra lone peak) would be best for most people
@RC-qf3mp
@RC-qf3mp Год назад
Thanks! Helps to know you walk 35 miles day after day without problems. I don’t know what “normal” is except in relation to the few other people I’d see on the Camino (during winter off season). Fastest walker I saw was a retired lady in her 70s who did various caminos 14 times and had a backpack about 1/3 the size everybody else. She was slender, used hiking poles effectively and really sped on by with ease. I chatted her up on gear advice and she was helpful (retired nurse), consistent with much of what I see in your videos. Your comments make me think much of my foot fatigue was from the way too tight (small) and muggy gore Tex Salomons. I have more confidence in my new Altra LPs and will try walking in those with a Camino-weight backpack (about 18 lbs, without water). That’s an easy test to do since I love these shoes anyway. Will check out REI as you suggest if I don’t have much more stamina with the LPs and look to experiment. I’m going down the rabbit hole of your other videos. So informative and thoughtful! Thanks! About your “failing” the PCT… wrong word! You don’t fail at anything if you keep on learning from your mistakes. And sometimes accidents just happen and it’s not a mistake or failure.
@charliekendall4288
@charliekendall4288 Год назад
My son's altra's lasted 500 miles on the AT. He admits to going too far between swap outs.
@myleftthumb2294
@myleftthumb2294 Год назад
Subscribed. Newbie here. What are your thoughts on using old school "alpine" boots. I still have my old Thom McAn's that I bought years ago when I was in Boy Scouts. I wore them all through high school and college and still wear them as winter boots. They still fit just fine and are in good shape. Except for the rusty screws, the Vibram sole looks almost new. Heavier than all get out, though. 2 pounds 6 ounces EACH!
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes Год назад
Part of the issue with those is that because of their extreme weight (compared to modern hiking shoes) you will be expending much more energy with each and every step vs anyone else. Add on a lack of control and mobility again because of their weight, but also their size. As an extra when they are wet they surely won't dry as quickly as trail runners, and also probably won't let your feet breath as well as trail runners. Both adding to your chances of getting blisters. They are probably great winter boots. And hey! They might still be the perfect hiking shoe for you. You should try them, but I also highly recommend trying something else as well. The vast majority of hikers are wearing trail runners, and I can count on one hand how many people I've seen in my last 3,000 miles wearing anything else.
@mytrekkinglife6962
@mytrekkinglife6962 2 года назад
Jupiter, Altra forever !
@johanneslinder422
@johanneslinder422 2 года назад
Hi, did you have a chance to test the new version of the Joey yet?... Sorry, it might not really fit the theme of this particular video l but I thought im gonna try and ask you on the latest :) Greetings from Germany I really enjoy your videos!
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
Dude yes! The joey has by far been my favorite pack I've ever used. The new one definitely has improvements the old version needed like extra pockets on the straps and nicer fabrics. Been loving it. Even considering selling my other packs just to use the joey most trips. I don't think it has enough volume for my hike on the PCT this year but it was super good for half the AZT and TRT.
@johanneslinder422
@johanneslinder422 2 года назад
@@JupiterHikes thanks for the fast reply:) The pack is unfortunately not in stock at the moment but I think I'm going to get it as soon as possible
@SticksAandstonesBozo
@SticksAandstonesBozo 2 месяца назад
At this point I only buy wide. I think way more people need wide and just don’t know it. I never ever think about my feet after swapping to wide 10 years ago.
@yarpenzigrin1893
@yarpenzigrin1893 2 года назад
For rocky mountain trails and in winter I prefer Meindl hiking boots, they're heavy but protective, grippy and durable. For dirt trails I use Merrell Trail Glove, they're lightweight zero drop shoes that have just enough padding to be comfortable. For beach walks and campsite use I have Huarache sandals I made myself. Those three kinds of shoes is all anyone needs for most trails out there.
@mary-lynpineda7767
@mary-lynpineda7767 7 месяцев назад
How about for long mountain trail. Like 3-day hike, wet, probably muddy, rocky too and pretty cold. Is it still advisable to have the gore tex yet heavy from Merrell or must have lightweight but non-waterproof?
@yarpenzigrin1893
@yarpenzigrin1893 7 месяцев назад
@@mary-lynpineda7767 In that case I always use the Meindl heavy boots. They're heavy but super comfortable so just perfect for a 3 day hike.
@mary-lynpineda7767
@mary-lynpineda7767 7 месяцев назад
@@yarpenzigrin1893 will it be a disadvantage if it rains?
@yarpenzigrin1893
@yarpenzigrin1893 7 месяцев назад
@@mary-lynpineda7767 No, there's no better shoes for wet conditions.
@mary-lynpineda7767
@mary-lynpineda7767 7 месяцев назад
there will be a high altitude. will it be fine?
@minhhop3208
@minhhop3208 2 года назад
Dohikung shoes need to wrap around our ankles to be safe ?
@cielrobinson
@cielrobinson 2 года назад
FINALLY an advantage to being a small lightweight person when it comes to backpacking gear!
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
Oh man there is so many! All gear is lighter when it's smaller, my quilt would be 5oz lighter for instance
@cielrobinson
@cielrobinson 2 года назад
@@JupiterHikes how i see it, proportionally much of your gear is also bigger for your body weight- at 5'0" 100lbs I have to use a lot of the same base items, like cook set and med kit and electronics, as a much larger person. each item like that is a higher percentage of my body weight, if that makes sense. stuff like clothing does scale up and down with your body size and i'm glad for that. but i had to start out with the lightest gear i could afford to get my pack under 1/4 of my weight fully loaded with just a few days food.
@freddyfox5002
@freddyfox5002 2 года назад
We should just distinguish between trekking and hiking. For me, trekking is about lightweight, miles, speed, endurance. Staying on a trail relatively close to civilization, and cooking with gas. Hiking, you go off trails into the woods, do bushcraft, and cook over a fire. The two hobbies need different gear. Trekking can use trail runners But hikers need a durable boot
@libertycoffeehouse3944
@libertycoffeehouse3944 Год назад
I am a little older. What tends to happen is later in life you will have damage to your feet. You won't experience this until your 40s. I would try to get more cushion then the minimal shoes. You will thank me later in life. I was Infantry and a runner. A thru hiker is even more susceptible due to extreme distance you guys do.
@spuriouseffect
@spuriouseffect Год назад
Terraventure 3's were the worst shoes I've ever tried on. They had a big wad of fabric inside where the shoe is sown together at the bottom of the laces. It dug into the top of my foot so bad that I couldn't even walk in them. Just a bad batch? Probably with my luck.
@nickhikesinthewoods6150
@nickhikesinthewoods6150 2 года назад
Have you heard of the Adidas terrex ax4 I just picked those up I really like them
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
Those are really popular among disc golf players, but I haven't tried them myself
@nickhikesinthewoods6150
@nickhikesinthewoods6150 2 года назад
Yeah I just got them today actually figured I'd try them out they're lightweight got plenty of tread on them
@samanthawillowlane1371
@samanthawillowlane1371 Год назад
Lol my dad made a similar trashcan setup from our deck.
@dougwahr4086
@dougwahr4086 6 месяцев назад
I need a shoe / boot with good ankle support that is also light and comfortable. Any recommendations?
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 6 месяцев назад
The Merrell Moab is a long time staple for many people who want ankle support. Altra also makes many of their shoes with a high top
@Go-zi1py
@Go-zi1py 2 года назад
Yeah, instead of hike your own hike, I believe wear your own shoes!!! I have both Hoka and Altras that I HATE!!! I love the brand Ryka and am on my 8th pair and walked over 1500 miles in them last year. I wish I had the money I spent on the Hoka and Altras back! We aren't in middle school, we don't have to wear or use the same things as dictated by the cool kids!
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
I agree! There's something out there for everyone, and unfortunately not one thing will work for everyone
@jhonyermo
@jhonyermo 2 года назад
So timely. Had Altra 3.5s.. Been using their 5.0s since July 2021. Slowly but surely my knees are in worst shape day by day. Is it the shoe? My age? Both? . Perhaps I need more cushioning with all my orbits around the sun? Perhaps not a zero drop any longer. I will be making a trip to REI PDQ to see what my next pair is. Saucony, Asics, etc? IDK. I know one thing, I will be looking for fit an comfort just like Jupe mentioned. Brand Loyalty? Not so much. I have owned many different brands over these many years. Almost wish Altra would bring back the 3.5s.
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
I really loved the lone peak 2.5s but every year they changed so much! As for the knees I'm sure you use trekking poles, but sometimes depending on what I eat how my legs feel drastically changes. Some foods being inflammatory and whatnot. In the end, hiking and walking all strengthens those muscles and joints, so I hope just by doing things get better!
@jhonyermo
@jhonyermo 2 года назад
@@JupiterHikes I only use one hike stick. And yes on the foods you eat. I notice cokes for instance seen to aggravate my condition and are inflammatory--for me at least. But I am using stretch braces and icing every day. Things are better in just a couple of weeks. Oh and staying away from concrete. Asphalt has more give that that stuff. Of course turf and trails the best.
@erikgiggey4783
@erikgiggey4783 2 года назад
being heavy mine last tops 300 miles About sizing and fitment its not just between brands. i have worn maybe 6 pairs of lonepeaks, i wanted to try the timps and figured they would fit like the lone peaks, wrong they are much narrower even in the same size and i never returned them as i walked 10 miles in them hope they would adjust or i would
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
I have had the same experience between lone peaks, olympus, and the superiors. A different size for each is what worked best. Fortunately for those I had some gear or running store to try them before I bought. Though often I'll order on amazon and just get a few sizes and return the others
@channeldos
@channeldos Год назад
Which shorts are you wearing in the "try on" section? They look great
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes Год назад
I'm not sure, those were some I found at a thrift store. Definitely not the same but my favorite shorts over the years have been the new balance accelerate.
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes Год назад
Just went through my clothes and the camo shorts are made by the north face. No model name or anything I see. They're nice! I still like the NB accelerate more, but the NF ones are a lot better than many others I've tried!
@joeldiller8480
@joeldiller8480 2 года назад
Bedrock sandals represent! I trekked over 1000 miles on mine. Only advice, don't get the 3D model. I typically need an insole for my right and not my left, and I had no issue with either foot.
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
Just curious why do you recommend against the 3D model?
@joeldiller8480
@joeldiller8480 2 года назад
@@JupiterHikes the groves by the toes gave me a really bad blister that turned to a hard callous that kept cracking open 😬.
@BuzzCarrick70
@BuzzCarrick70 2 года назад
How tightly do you tighten your laces? I see people slide their shoes on and off and I would think you would want them laced fairly snuggly?
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
Everyone is going to be different with what works for them but I am one of those who just slides them on and off without touching the laces. I personally don't know why this works for some and not others
@jimizxztheorginal
@jimizxztheorginal 9 месяцев назад
I hike and skate... I need a shoe subscription or something because I need new shoes once a month
@robfigulski1139
@robfigulski1139 2 года назад
Went from DWG to Katahdin with same pair of Solomons... I regretted it. Should of gotten a new pair before the Whites...
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
New jersey to the end is very impressive! How were they feeling by maine?
@robfigulski1139
@robfigulski1139 2 года назад
@@JupiterHikes I fell 3 times in Maine. That's why I knew I should of replaced. Live and learn.. 😁
@samsmith8870
@samsmith8870 Год назад
You're shoe size also goes up quite a bit as you get old. I went from a size 9 to a size 10 over the past 12 years. Hiking shoes I wear 10/12. I suppose it's just the long-term effects of gravity lol
@ImTheDudeMan471
@ImTheDudeMan471 2 года назад
Would a regular full bottom rubber sole running shoe work on trail? Like a Saucony or New Balance, etc. Has anyone tried to see if they work?
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
I've done that quite a bit! Something with vibram soles will have better traction and seem to last long but you can be successful with either
@katahdinbound874
@katahdinbound874 2 года назад
Does anyone besides me still wear the old style leather hiking boots? Yes, they are heavy, but I get good ankle support and don't stub my toes.
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
It's very uncommon these days as the benefits to trail runners are pretty great for most but you will see a few. Though the few you see may just be high top hiking shoes rather than leather boots. Either way do what works best for you!
@rivercitymetaldetecting9854
@@JupiterHikes I do and have for decades. Lightest I will go on footwear are the Zamberlan 215s. I've had boots all the way back to Fabiano, Pivetta, Raichle, blah blah blah. Been that this stuff a long time.
@TheBigBlueMarble
@TheBigBlueMarble 2 года назад
Don't overlook SOCKS. I can comfortably wear a number of different shoes as long as I have the right socks. And I can put on the "perfect" shoe and be uncomfortable with the wrong socks. The same is true of custom inserts, which everyone should be using. My shoe sizing philosophy...keep going up by 1/2 size until you find a size that is too big, then go down 1/2 size and buy them.
@JupiterHikes
@JupiterHikes 2 года назад
It is true! I have found I like a thicker sock why my buddy loves the thin ones
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