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My Discord Debate with Muslims on Rebekah's Age at Her Marriage to Isaac 

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@Bendover-u5m
@Bendover-u5m День назад
How did you come up with the age of 20? I read the book of Jubilees, but I did not see any verses about the age of birth or the age of Marriage? can you give me the verses, and how did you come up with the age of 20?
@SentinelApologetics
@SentinelApologetics День назад
In Jubilees, we read that: 1. Year 2002 Rebekah is born. 2. Year 2027 Rebekah is married. 3. Year 2046 Rebekah gave birth. 4. Year 2157 Rebekah died. So, 25 years old (or 20 years old with a minor textual variant) at marriage, and 44 years old when giving birth. The year "2002" is derived when she says "I die now at 155" in year 2157.
@sasa_sasa_sasa230
@sasa_sasa_sasa230 День назад
​​​​​@@SentinelApologeticseven in Olam Rabah 1 original variant is that she had 14 hahah, European manuscript was contaminated by addition in Tosefat Sefarim 1-4 from 8th century and scribe who copied Olam Rabah misscribed that addition from Tosefat (work from 8th century and pay attention that have addition in ot even later) Yakov Eden, famous Jewish rabbie admit that. By the way, muslim's sons of satan lied about translation 😂 By the way, Rebecca was called:Betulah/Almah/Narah which in Bible Always means girls that past puberty. Start adolescence and can born a child also a Chickuni comentary on Genses said that!
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion День назад
@@SentinelApologetics Alternatively: Book of Jubilees 35:6 has Rebekah at age 155 when she dies. The next chapter has Isaac dying 5 years later at 180 (36:18), so Isaac was 175 when Rebekah was 155. This means Rebekah was 20 when she married 40 year old Isaac.
@sasa_sasa_sasa230
@sasa_sasa_sasa230 День назад
​@@SentinelApologeticsbro this Muslim sons of satan lied, first with opinion Rebecca was 3 was Rashi and i explained why, also same Rashi called her Narah which means that by rabinic standard she was at least 12.-5 years+ one year more to wait between bethrowal ans marriage so she was at least 13.5 years+ puberty old by same Rashi. Why he said she was 3? Two options: his grandson Rasbam said he wrote Torah explanation in alegorical manner, Second: he believed in some Rabbinic legends that said that patriarchs like Terah Abraham's father, Abraham, so probably also a Rebecca, grand doather of Tearah, doather of Abraham's brother were super human and developed much faster. They believed that Terah was a giant, Abraham with 8 was already grown up man ect. So they probably also believed same stuff for Rebecca because look in their sagas she lived also like 2 times longer than usual man.
@chrisoakey9841
@chrisoakey9841 День назад
jubilee is usually the 7th week/ year, or 50 years. so 49 weeks? i think not. 21, sounds possible, or 150.
@ReflectionsofChristianMadman
@ReflectionsofChristianMadman День назад
A three-year old carrying enough water to water all the camels of Abraham’s servant is nothing short of miraculous. It would be dozens of gallons this toddler was sprinting around with.
@Undomielllllll
@Undomielllllll День назад
“I will love you for the sake of Jesus, but you’re still a creep.” Rob ate with that one. These guys are so insufferable. God bless you for your patience and willingness to dialogue with them despite their inadequacies.
@sasa_sasa_sasa230
@sasa_sasa_sasa230 День назад
They are sons of satan. So much lies, sorry that i wasn't there 😅
@DingoNovember
@DingoNovember День назад
“3 year old is the opinion of majority of scholars” what scholars you ask? Abdool scholars of cause😂
@mariongranbruheim4090
@mariongranbruheim4090 День назад
20:11 “Rebecca was 3! But I can’t give you explicit documentation for it!” ≈ _Abdools._ BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!‼️ (21:54.)
@DingoNovember
@DingoNovember День назад
Very Abdool of him to say that😂😂😂
@lahleholivia7398
@lahleholivia7398 День назад
She is referred to multiple times as Almah. This word is also used to describe Moses sister. It is used to describe young women not children
@sasa_sasa_sasa230
@sasa_sasa_sasa230 День назад
She was called Betulah/Narah/Almah which on Torah always means minimum of girs that past puberty, start adolescence and can born a child.
@sdsouz
@sdsouz День назад
Great job, Rob! I loved your energy!
@undevelopmentteam
@undevelopmentteam День назад
This looked fun and frustrating. They almost won't engage with you unless you do it this way.
@asdiciple
@asdiciple День назад
Rob is too patient with these Muslims 😂
@mariongranbruheim4090
@mariongranbruheim4090 День назад
19:01 I’m doing my best concerning the “the English language”, but no Bible in any of the languages I speak says that “Rebecca hauled waters for a flock of thirsty camels, welcomed Abraham’s entourage to her home and got married at 3”. 😼🤣
@mariongranbruheim4090
@mariongranbruheim4090 День назад
So: *NO!!! I DON’T “agree”* that the woman described in the Scriptures was “3 years old” when she accepted the marriage proposal given via the servant of Abraham!!
@samuelakshoyprabhudas5966
@samuelakshoyprabhudas5966 42 минуты назад
Genesis 24:20, verse 19 to 22
@SINQUEFIELD83
@SINQUEFIELD83 День назад
When a Muslim claims to understand your position and says they are listening. Ask them to repeat back the position. I would guesstimate that 95% of the time, the Muslim will fail to comprehend what is being said in the very topic y'all are discussing. And I'd guess 80% can't even repeat the last sentence you just said
@lileveyc
@lileveyc День назад
I would say this is a classic example of Muslim Eisegesis, but that would imply they looked into the text to formulate their argument. But no some later Rabbis said it so we’re gonna roll with it as fact.
@bluebible1199
@bluebible1199 День назад
🤣lol fax
@wwitness
@wwitness 20 часов назад
The fact that this even needs to be debated in the first place is ridiculous 😂
@Johnathan_Porkinstein
@Johnathan_Porkinstein День назад
They're so dishonest and bad faith
@KaydenMinistry
@KaydenMinistry День назад
jeez bro this debate was just interrupting you need to do private moderated debates on discord when i hear everybody interrupting each other
@allahslittlehelper
@allahslittlehelper День назад
beautiful
@armourofgod6310
@armourofgod6310 День назад
the scripture says ''young WOMAN''
@undevelopmentteam
@undevelopmentteam День назад
I like how that one guy is trying to teach Hebrew wrong. I don't know but a tiny, insignificant amount of the language and I know what he's getting wrong. He makes it too obvious because he won't stop saying "definite article" when you can see the term in Exodus is appiled to the word "Her".
@SINQUEFIELD83
@SINQUEFIELD83 День назад
Do Muslims trust other Muslims? I am genuinely curious. As a rational man, if I saw my brother being deceitful to someone else, even if I disliked the other person, I would become hesitant to trust anything my brother says.
@lylyscuir
@lylyscuir День назад
If I were Muslim, I wouldn't trust other Muslims. Being deceitful isn't limited to their apologetics, either. Muslims are allowed to lie if it conceals a sin (since confessing a sin to another is a greater sin in Islam than lying), which effectively gives them free reign to lie all they like, even to other Muslims.
@vanuaturly
@vanuaturly День назад
What a frustrating bunch.
@malcolmlayton2050
@malcolmlayton2050 День назад
Invincible ignorance is one of Allah's attributes
@vanuaturly
@vanuaturly День назад
"The vast majority of scholars" 😂😂😂
@Furinkazan541
@Furinkazan541 День назад
By majority, he means Muslim imams desperately coping
@UnknownsoldieroftheLORD
@UnknownsoldieroftheLORD День назад
@@vanuaturly Sheik google is the vast majority of scholars 🤣🤣🤣 "the first 10 links" 🤣🤣🤣
@Furinkazan541
@Furinkazan541 День назад
​@@UnknownsoldieroftheLORD Just for fun, I Googled that, and what do you know! All of those links were saying she wasn't three!
@UnknownsoldieroftheLORD
@UnknownsoldieroftheLORD День назад
@@Furinkazan541 that is to be expected, nobody reading Genesis will think she is 3 unless you have other motives
@Furinkazan541
@Furinkazan541 День назад
​@@UnknownsoldieroftheLORDThe best part is that their only source is one Rabbi who lived almost 2000 years after Rebecca that everyone disagreed with
@uhh6785
@uhh6785 День назад
they literally fail the logic, and logical consistency, check- EVERYTIME
@uhh6785
@uhh6785 День назад
when you ask for something, it's all "one second.. one second.. **stupid "point" while committing a series of fallacies**"
@f10pped36
@f10pped36 3 часа назад
@@uhh6785 genuinely shows how demons can blind someone even if you spell it out for them. All we can do is pray for them
@sasa_sasa_sasa230
@sasa_sasa_sasa230 День назад
It's interesting when Abdul said: it's literally in your Bible written that Isac married Rebekah when she was 3 years old 😅. Where? Show me the Verse. 😂😂😂
@faithgurl08
@faithgurl08 22 часа назад
It's in Lies 66:6
@lalhmangaihalalhmangaiha8288
Awesome breakdown Rob, keep on exposing this pathetic lies
@r.nunezz
@r.nunezz День назад
Man is a soldier, took down each objection and it was like 20V1
@stan3399
@stan3399 7 минут назад
True , they don't read the entire chapter, just what their scholars tell them.... Rebecca not only carried water out of the well for Abraham servant's camel but also for all those who accompanied him.. imagine a 3 year old doing that... But how else can you defend Muhammad apart from lying 😅
@funbro99
@funbro99 21 час назад
I do love that within 5 sec, we get mod abuse. And thats ignoring context of said debate. Discord be something.
@benjaminnomba1226
@benjaminnomba1226 День назад
Show us!!!
@BryanTheodus
@BryanTheodus 2 часа назад
these guys tried really hard to waffle away from this when shown they were wrong
@sonya6491
@sonya6491 День назад
The script was perfectly recited well done muslims.
@HeinPretorius
@HeinPretorius 21 час назад
Only one person can really be heard at one time. This talking over each other is not how people listen. No one can focus on multiple people talking over each other. This video is a disaster. I got as far as 4:39 and now I’m moving on. The host should be the one to regulate the discussion ONE AT A TIME.
@yayorandel6048
@yayorandel6048 16 часов назад
What verse says she was 3?
@annemurphy9339
@annemurphy9339 День назад
This is a profoundly problematic and false claim.. The holy Bible, the only authoritative source, repeatedly calls Rebekah a young woman in Genesis: Abraham’s directive to his servant is to find a young woman for Isaac’s bride, & the servant inquires for direction if the young woman doesn’t want to go with him. The mission’s objective is clear that the servant is to find a young, unmarried woman for a bride. Rebekah was able to shepherd flocks, a dangerous job no toddler could perform, and she was mature enough to be able to discuss the proposal of marriage with her family and to decide for herself whether or not to accept. She was physically strong and able to perform an adult female’s chore of drawing water from the well for Abraham’s servant and all ten of his camels. Based on the amount of water a camel can hold, Rebekah drew well over 5,000 pounds of water to accomplish this task. Rebekah was clearly a young adult.
@sasa_sasa_sasa230
@sasa_sasa_sasa230 День назад
She was called: Betulah/Almah/Narah which always in Torah means at minimum girl that past puberty and started early adolescence and can born a child. Even rabbie Chickuni admitted that (famous Jewish rabbie from 12th century)
@yayorandel6048
@yayorandel6048 16 часов назад
In no world is 6 years old mature in anyway.
@CobraPRIME99
@CobraPRIME99 7 минут назад
I googled it, it said 14.
@christianpatriot7196
@christianpatriot7196 День назад
I appreciate the efforts of these type of conversations, but boy I’m beginning to get annoyed and irritated by this type of dialogue through these forms because there’s never any order and constant over talking one another and just a mess Perhaps the older I get the easier it is for my patients to wear thin lol
@1971AEDWARDS
@1971AEDWARDS 17 часов назад
Genesis 24:19-20, how can a 3 year old water camels?
@TUGxbubu
@TUGxbubu 19 часов назад
The top link in google is Reddit keep that in mind lol
@aidashitaye
@aidashitaye 21 час назад
If Rebekah was three when Issac married him, I would say he was wrong. Muslims your podo momo married Aisha when she was nine can you say momo was wrong. Muslims use your mind. You can do that.
@TUGxbubu
@TUGxbubu 19 часов назад
@@aidashitaye you know whats crazy to me thats even more funnier Is that AISHA HERSELF WROTE THE HADITH Wich makes muhammad case even more worst cause not only the victim record it and confirm it She even wrote that allah allowed it Hahahahahaha Muslims are a bunch of P3dos hahahhahahahaha
@Capt.Kasuko
@Capt.Kasuko 22 часа назад
So much fallacies from these Muslims, red-herrings, shotgunning multiple points so he can avoid addressing 1 point at a time.
@criticalsage
@criticalsage Час назад
Stuck for allah hahahahhaa @7th century
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