The problem I've always had with Lone Rider tents is the price. They seem very expensive compared to other similar tents that aren't marketed towards motorcycle campers. But I don't see there is anything special about them. Anything motorcycle related is always expensive. The motorcycle porch is nice but I'd prefer to keep the bike somewhere it couldn;t fall on me on a wet and windy night when the gound gets softer. I would take a look at the ultralight camping and hiking community and see what they recommend. Thanks for the review though.
Withstood 15 hours of rain for me in Salamanca yesterday, I was bone dry but my Dutch neighbours were soaked. Only issue is lack of a pad at entrance to kneel on to enter the tent without bringing crap inside. Other than that I wish it was 1.2 metres high, it is seriously low inside but I do use the shelf for watching movies, the best feature
@Nordkapp55 I hear ya. I use the ADV tent’s bag as my mat. Works pretty well. I’ll probably bring a small mat that doesn’t require using the stuff bag. I also own the Moto Tent. It does a different thing for different uses. One or two nights in the same place? I’ll use the ADV tent. Setting up a base camp? Moto Tent works great.
Just a suggestion... you can get a tiny (about the size of a large egg) USB air pump from Amazon which not only would inflate your bed far quicker and easier but it includes an LED lamp on the base with 3 levels of brightness. I recharge it as required from a battery pack that I keep charged from a USB port on the bike when riding.
Aren't you supposed to blow into the bag? Goes so much faster. Try it mate. Thanks for a great video! Heading out for my first run to norway next week 🎉
I've just moved from traditional mummy style sleeping bag (and hated the way they twist and constrict) to a quilt and thermal sleeping mat solution by Sea to Summit. Same principal. Used first time last night wild camping and was excellent. I too am converted.
Do what you need to do, don’t let the channel dictate your path, people are watching you because of the content you make of what you choose to do, if that makes sense. Only thing I would add is talking whilst riding rather than or as well as music would break up some of the riding scenes and keep viewers more engaged? What ever you do I’ll still be watching. Good luck and ride safe 👍
Please buy yourself a Flextail gear air pump ! Very small , rechargeable and you dont look like a prize plonker using it like you do using that air bag ! 😂
Very nice. I like the way you're able to pack the pannier so perfectly like a jig saw puzzle. Thanks for the demo of the Zenbivy sleep system...I'll look into that...I too hate mummy bags.
20 + years ago when I was actively motorcycle camping the best gear was what ever would cross over from backpacking gear. Looks like there’s a lot more selection out there now 😉. But even then, the Jetboil coffee press was a godsend ☕️😆👍!
Yes some of the backpacking gear is great, that’s where the Zenbivy came from. But there’s some really good stuff out there. I like this kit as it’s still offers a little bit of luxury for a camper.
I bought the naturehike cloud peak 2 tent. Much cheaper and has external pole system which means you are pitching the fly first. A big advantage if you need to pitch in the rain. Packs much small and lighter as it’s designed for backpacking. It’s also quick to pitch as the inner is built in.
I think that is the first thing to consider - can the tent be rigged or derigged in the rain without the interior becoming wet. You also need a way to store the wet flysheet on its own.
I brought a Wechsel 3-man tent, Reason, easy to put up if it's raining as the inner is attached the fly sheet, also if it's raining it gives you somewhere to sit up straight in a chair. and packs down into a 20ltr bag
Handy info right at the end of the holiday season in UK! Never mind! This season I found that my camping setup was far heavier than is necessary, so I have ditched the Triumph/Givi pannier system and replaced it with an Oxford 70 Litre roll bag. I also changed from a quick pitch to a conventional two man tent. In total these changes have saved 17kgs and made a considerable difference to the feel of the loaded bike.
Nice to see your Camp Set up Tony, how annoying the rain came last minute 😮 wish i had done more camping this year as love MotoCamping, sadly ive been too busy with work. Allthough September has started well, it’s like someone switched the rain off and the sun decided to show up 😂 Just need to get over Covid now to get back out there. 👍
Oh no, hope you get over it soon. Yes post June things have been not so great for camping. It can be a pretty enjoyable and relaxing experience at times
Love the vid, though for the tent option, I'd always recommend Khyam tent, really well made and up in less than a minute. My first 1 lasted well over 10yrs off use in all type of weathers. Yes they expensive, but after you used you know why!
I've got a $79 3 man tent. Sits 130cm high, has a porch and weighs 3.5kg. My gas setup is sold by a motorcycle enthusiast and has all the bits and bobs for under $100 and uses the long cylinders of propane which last longer than the short ones and are considerably cheaper at $12 for 4 cylinders. I do have a good quality self inflating mattress and sleeping bag ( sea to summit). I've got mates that have the Redvers tent which is almost twice as expensive as the lonerider. Keep on camping I say. 😊
Interesting selection of gear. My system is as follows, Lone Rider Adventure tent, Zenbivy light 25 degree quilt with a light 10 degree mattress (rarely have my head inside the mattress top but if I do it’s really cold so I went with the extra down), Exped light weight sleeping pad (R3.6), Helinox chair (the original brand copied world wide by Decathalon and others) and a Jetboil Flash. I see others complaining about the cost of some of this gear particularly the Lone Rider tent and all I can say is that cheap gear is great, until it’s not. Having spend 50 years traveling and camping by motorcycle and longer bushwalking, car camping, white water rafting expeditions and cross country ski camping all I can say is that in my experience good gear is worth every penny.
That looks like a lot of messing about when u can get re reactive tent and the Silentnight Camping Self Inflating Mattress Pad Mat Airbed 5 10cm Thick? Happy to be wrong as I’m new to this advice me in any way plz
Reactive tents are big and heavy, and from what I’ve seen don’t perform too well? The sleep system is awesome, and can be set quite quickly, it’s proved to be warm and comfortable
Ok a bit left field this tip, but lets see who agrees or think it's a good or bad idea. We all have clothing that is past its best, i talking Tshirts, pants and socks, you know what im talk about, the stuff the wife says isn't time you threw that away. Wwell i put these items tto one side, then when off on a little trip, they come with me, and after wearing for the appropriate amount amount of time, they get binned. No more trying to pack dirty stuff away or heaps of washing to bring home. And a happy wife to boot 😅
Yep I do that too sometimes, there’s an old pair of sliders went in the bin in France, a pair of knackered Birkenstocks and Adidas trainers in Germany.
Great demo/film. Really like the look of the sleep system. Have been looking for a good alternative to a mummy bag and those very expensive quilts just didn’t seem to do it but that “system” seems to solve the issues of both!
Great vid, love an honest review and always keen to see what the load out is, particularly with a bigger bike with panniers. Would be keen to see another where you show what you take on a day ride maybe?
Little trick for your chair, buy a pack of half size tennis balls, cut a small hole into them a push onto chair legs, makes chair usable on wet ground and still fits in normal bag !
@@mancavemoto it’s worth the room I opted for the berghause 3 man.. did some of the western Isles last year with it.. having that room made a difference.
Great video! After watching I’ve decided to go for a Zenbivy Bed, on the site the colour states ‘Black/Red’ but I noticed in your video the inner looks quite orange? Is this an old version they don’t do anymore or is the ‘Red’ infact quite orange!? Asking as orange is my least favourite colour, but I do love red!😂
The "waterproof" bag is not waterproof. Tip..... do not put anything that you do not want wet next or near to your "waterproof" adv tent. The water from the wet tent will seap out and soak everything. And leave 2 inches of water in the bottom of your pannier ! That sleeping system..... what a palava !
I think camping on a low budget is always a popular kind of video. You selected some great products but I think the sleep system and tent were quite pricey for most people. Decathlon sell air mattresses from under £20 and good quality own brand tents. Just an idea for a future video when the weather gets better again!
When I first started touring back in the 70s, I used various gas based stoves, but found that I'd go through a canister in not much more than a day or two. I looked around at various models of multi fuel stoves, tried MSR etc but kept on coming back to my now trusty Svea 123R. Being on a bike also has the added benefit that you can always fill the stove from your fuel tank, and it has the added benefit of having a fantastically hot flame if needed. I think that the only down side is that it can be a bit difficult to get a low flame, but it's certainly not impossible. It may not fold down quite as small as an MSR or whatever, but it makes up for that with being incredibly robust as well as stable and spectacularly reliable. I wasn't able to go camping for about 10 years, did nothing when I went on hiatus, but mine lit first time out of storage.
The Svea 123, now there's an old memory! I used to backpack a lot in the late 1970's and early '80's. The Svea 123 was the Bimota of backpacking stoves back then. I had a collapsing Optimus (they bought Svea years ago) LPG stove, because even way back then some of the State and National Parks didn't allow white gas in the back country, only in designated car camping area with more developed services... specifically, running water.
Really good review of the gear you use Tony. I’ve a Vango Tempest 300 that has been brilliant other than as you found it’s quite low so getting dressed/ undressed is challenging. I think lone rider tents seem expensive for the tent itself but they do have a few features within the whole package that make it a bit more useful for bike camping. The sleep system you use looks brilliant, I watch a lot of out doors vids and I’ve never seen that. 👍🏻
Thanks, it’s rated to go down to -4C, but it’ll be comfortable down to 2C. Starts getting too warm heading to 20C I’ve used it in the range between about 6/7C up to 18ish and it’s been perfect
What a ball ache this motorbiking malarkey is. Not for me, after a long day in comfy car I don't NEED a shower and a proper bed.Expensive hotels for me not
I have seen them, but the reviews have been mixed to say the least. They may be quick to put up, but that must come at the expense of weight and pack size? I've seen a few reviewers say they are not waterproof and are only any good for fair weather. I am looking at a couple of alternative tents as i'd like a litte more height than the ADV tent offers.
Hi Tony, greetings from the Philippines, and not wanting to have a competition but im sheltering from a Monsoon while doing a tour of Asia on my Triumph 1200..lol Great video as always and thanks for sharing.
Can't fault your choices apart from the LR tent. A really riduculous chunk of change for a basic product without ventilation if you dont mind me saying. Great, informative demonstration vlog.
The only times I have camped with my bike was back in the '80s when I slept rough next to my XT500. Simple times. You sound like you have a cold. Nick J
A good review. i feel that tents that require putting the inner up first are a bit of a pain if its raining. I have a Kyam Biker, ( bought for £80!) it is a bit on the big side for transporting on the bike. I was really impressed when you manage to get all the kit into one pannier.
You can put the Lone Rider tent up outer first then put the inner inside once the waterproof shelter is in place. Lone Rider have a video showing how to do it on their site.
Another very interesting video, I especially liked the the lantern, the ADV tent is too low for my old bones, but I will be buying a Moto tent before the next ABR Festival.
REI in the U.S. sells the SOL Flat Pack Collapsible Sink for $17 (it's even on sale for $13 right now), so there has to be something similar in the U.K. @@mancavemoto
Those items all look brand new. Hardly surprising really, why camp when you can just pay (much less) for a hotel room. There’s a reason houses are so popular😉
Think it's fair to say some domesticated animals don't do well when they are required to look after themselves in the natural environment. Luckily most motorcyclists (particularly those of us who ride all year round) are a little tougher🥲.