Addressing some things: 1) there are other Vocaloids I really like who didn't make this video, simply due to not knowing about them at the time or having them slip my mind when working on this. This was just supposed to be a quick, rambling video. 2) I can only talk about my experiences with the American vocaloid community. I can talk slightly about the Japanese community, since that is the largest country in the Vocaloid community, but I am unable to comment about the communities in other countries. That doesn't mean I don't know they exist, I simply don't experience it myself and therefore am unable to comment on it. 3) I am a native English speaker. As such, some pronunciations may be off. I am trying the best of my ability with my knowledge of Japanese phonetics. Also take into account the presence of regional accent for me as well as my current issues with pronouncing what I mean to (as a result of Parkinson's). Intonation is probably off, but again, I am trying my best. 4) This video was made SEVERAL months ago. It was done very early in the morning, with me simply doing random RU-vid and Google searches to get b roll to use. I am unaware of the people behind the specific fanarts, MMD videos, covers, etc. *If* I make another of these in the future, I will be sure to keep track of things to be able to properly credit the artists. This was just supposed to be a quick video to practice my editing skills, nothing more or less. I did not expect it to get more that 20-30 views, and thought it would quickly be forgotten like many of my other videos. All I can do is improve going forward, and be sure to credit the artists in my next video *if* I make one. 5) lastly, hi, I'm a boy. I've been putting off making another of these videos due to dysphoria surrounding my voice, knowing I sound female and seeing many of you call me a girl in the comments. I'm debating a few options with a next video (wait another year or so for my voice to drop once I start testosterone; just don't make a 2nd video; bite the bullet and just deal with my shitty awful voice; use a text to speech program for the voiceover)
@@hollowstars7401 sometimes I get lucky and am able to keep it rather androgynous sounding, however I also have anxiety which makes my voice rise on its own, and with an already female voice it's a bad mix. Hopefully, once the current global health situation calms down, I will be able to get into the doctor and start T, which will help in lowering the tone! But I do appreciate hearing from someone else who has dysphoria, as so many other people treat it as "oh it's just your voice stop being weird"
I honestly love how you tackled other Vocaloids. To me, its kinda rare to hear anyone speak about Lily, Piko, or Vflower and you helped introduce other Vocaloids like Cul (I heard some of the covers and it’s absolutely amazing) And for my personal favourite voices, probably Oliver and Fukase. For Fukase, he gives such a strong and unique voice. Sadly he’s only known for his appearance, and for Oliver, I love his adorable British accent voice. It’s so unique to me, and honestly its very calm in a way. Many people don’t like newer Vocaloids, and it’s understandable. But I feel like the reason why people are making newer Vocaloids is because they are making new voices, and maybe some people would like to try out some of that! Like Oliver, with his British Accent, who knows maybe someone wanted a Vocaloid like that!
I'm actually a bit more into Utauloids than Vocaloids myself for this exact reason! While Vocaloids tend to be higher quality since they're professionally made, there's always a unique charm to different utaus, based on so many factors like accents, vocal differences, and so many others! Like, Kohaku Merry has a strong accent to her English bank that makes her unique, Maiko is meant for screamo, and so many characters have multiple voicebanks! It's really cool seeing what people create when given that freedom
Cul's name in french translate to ass So people in the French vocaloid community keep making fun of her but I've grown to like her voice thx to rotten rotten zombie
My favorite “unpopular” Vocaloids Oliver (my all time favorite because I love the sweeter voices) Flower (I love her rock covers) Fukase (pairs well with Flower when doing duets and solo) Piko (love his vocal range and is really good when tuned correctly) Yohioloid (he has a nice voice and sounds amazing when tuned correctly)
Here's my list 5. Lily 4. VFlower 3. SF-A2 Miki 2. Tohoku Zunko 1. Stardust Go check out stardust she's my one of my favorite vocaloids her voice is beautiful 🌠
Holy shit I just listened to Stardust and she sounds AMAZING!! (Apparently I already had a cover of her singing "B!tchy Idol" saved to my phone but I always thought it was a real person!!) I haven't listened to many (really any) Chinese Vocaloids, but man, I really gotta start
My fav Vocaloids are : 1. Yohioloid 2.Piko 3.Kaito 4.V4 flower 5.Oliver 6.Cul 7.unity Chan 8. Lily 9.Gakupo 10. Otamachi Una I also love about a million other Vocaloids I just love Vocaloid suprisingly I don't really like Miku don't hate me
I absolutely have to agree with you that the deeper female Vocaloids are better then the cuter and higher pitched ones. I personally love all 6 u mentioned but I have to add Meiko, Luka, Ia(Rocks specifically) and One(I know she's not an actual Vocaloid but who cares!), Kanon(she's the older sister and has a deeper voice), Merli(Absolutely stunning vocals), Sachiko, Mew, Avanna, Sonika(When used right is pretty decent), Mirram(again when used right), Sweet Ann(When used right), Prima(is god tier when use right), Gumi(only Adult and Power is best), SeeU(can be pretty decent), Clara(when used right), Maika(fav Spanish vocaloid ever), Galaco(is pretty decent when used right, newer version is better than the prize version), Yuma(one of my favorite boys), Kiyoteru(Rock voicebank all the way!), YOHIOloid(fucking amazing!), Rana(is actually surprisingly really good), so is Chika, Cyber Diva is fun, Yuzuki(Lin vocal is best), Dex is awesome, Unity-chan is pretty good as well, Stardust is one of my favorite Chinese vocaloids, Cyber Songman is awesome, Uni is cool, Matcha is amazing, I love Lumi as well, Mirai is almost as good as Meiko, Haruno Sora Cool is awesome as well, and Mikoto Hime is amazing! Then again I take the time to listen to all Vocaloids looking for the best songs for each and every single Vocaloid, unofficial or not, to listen to.
I had no idea v4 flower was considered unpopular, I mean, from what I've seen, she gets a lot of praise and for good reason. She's hella awesome. Awesome video btw more people should make videos like this 👌
I'd consider vflower a bit more popular nowadays, with producers like ghost, niru katsiju and kairiki bear using the voice bank!! Many popular songs, or at least, many songs that I've come across recently use vflower's voice bank ^^ but, yeah, I'd agree that out of all the unpopular vocaloids, vflower is my absolute favourite!!
I'd also consider Una Spicy to be pretty popular. Una Sugar us definitely more obscure, but I think there's more potential for her than a lot of other people think.
I'm really happy to say that in the months after releasing this video, I've been seeing V4 Flower and Una both becoming way more popular, and that makes me so happy!
B B I mean fair. I like her design it's simple and nice but I get why someone wouldn't like it. But my comment was more about her popularity in general
I like the lower female voices more, too! You hear so much of Miku's and Rin's very high pitched songs. My favourite unpopular Vocaloids: Mayu, Piko, Nekomura (but I don't like her Hello Kitty design and think she's actually a brat), Yuzuki Yukari, Prima, Lily, flower & Hiyama Kiyoteru (to me he has the best male voice!)
How could you forget Gachapoid, Rana and ZOLA Project's Wil, Kyo and Yuu. My precious vocaloids. Always the most underrated. Also Sweet Ann is the most underrated. Someone needs to start a petition to reverse the fanbase's "SatAnn" mindset.
The Zola project loids are really good (I never really listened to them at the time.of this video, but Kyo's 'Donut Hole' cover as well as Wil's 'Full Course for Candy Addicts' have gotten me into them) Personally, I don't really like Rana's voice, too high pitched and childish for me but her design is amazing Neutral feelings on Sweet Ann as I've never heard any good quality covers using her. But I will 100% fite you that Gachapoid is the worst vocaloid ever created, both design and voicebank wise
@@imhyperer-P it was meant as a joke lmao But personally I know that many hate Gachapoid and trust me I hated him for a year or so until I somehow chanced upon his cover of the Tokyo Ghoul OP "Unravel". I mean, it's weird but I still find it cute (my ears are broken by now) Also, Sweet Ann is neutral to a lot, but many just keep saying that she's SatAnn, and even if I don't listen to her it's kind of annoying to know that there's a rarely-used vocaloid but everyone already hates her. And lastly, I forgot to include my most important two; Leon and Lola!! Yes, they're from the v1 era and their voices are crappy and robotic, but it was from the beginning of vocaloid and there's always something special about them. Also, it would be nice if you could check out Leon's cover of "Meltdown". It was quite nicely tuned, even though the technology isn't that good. Lola's voice always overpowers Leon's when they duet, but I don't mind it as it shows the progress of vocaloid somehow. I mean I love the v1 and v2 era the most, don't judge me my ears are broken as I've mentioned before... Ok I'm done venting bai~ (Hope i have not offended you in anyway by saying that gachapoid will always be my fav)
I like Kaai Yuki, I’m pretty sure that she’s popular in Japan or something. I like her softer voice and how she’s pretty nice in horror songs. I just wish she could have an English voice, because I really want to cover willows of wysteria with her (I don’t think I spelled that right), your opinions are great!
I guess it's GHOST and soup (its a nickname) who made me fall in love with Flower lol. And Piko is just my boi for some reason. I probably just haven't found good covers that use his voice properly but I guess his design made him my favourite and nit his voice. But I also hold this weird love for Leon and Lola, I can't even explain why I love them. I just adore their fanmade designes that look nothing like other Vocaloids, they're just so damn casual but so damn cute. And there's something in their robotic and not-that-human voices that just melts my heart. I guess I also like Tonio and Prima and Sonika
Ghost does amazingly with Flower! And I get what you mean, I absolutely fell in love with both Piko and Flower's designs! Leon and Lola are really cool too, though I sadly haven't been able to find many good uses of their voices. Also we stan SONiKA!
i really like, that my favorite fandom is not dead! my favorite unpopular vocaloids are: -otomachi una - mayu -rana - hiyama kiyotero -arslord -tohoka zunko -kaai yuki - eleonora -nekomura iroha (thanks to patchwork staccato)
oliver is my favorite vocaloid overall his voice is just so perfect for the types of music i listen to and just LAJFGJDJS HIS DESIGN IS SO SO CUTE OMG I LOVE HIM
Dude! I love Una and I'm so happy to finally find someone who openly says they like her design and her voice. I remember being in a call with some of my friends and our favourite vocaloid came up. When I said my favourite was Una a few of them said that they didn't know her and the ones who did said, "yeah her voice is nice but her design is s**t. Especially that hat" and I went on a rant to them about how she's supposed to be eleven and it would make sense for her to have a bright and colourful kawaii design. Let's just say that I'm very dedicated to the things I like and I'm really happy to find another Una fan.
I may be a little biased with her design, since I'm really into the whole Harajuku street fashion scene as well as 90s punk, but her design is one of my favorites. I love that they didn't try to give her some super serious or mature design, since that wouldn't fit with the 11 year old concept or her voice in general, but to be fair I can see why your friend would dislike the hat, as its a bit much lol but yeah, like you said it totally fits and its just a really good design
#1 Flower's voice power REALLY is amazing #2 FUKASE's voice sounds welcoming if used properly #3 UNI is cute design-wise but her voicebank sounds annoyingly childish thus, not matching her appearance. #4 Nekomura Iroha's natural vb sounds amazing #5 Otomachi Una's childishness that affects her voice sounds amazing! but for her design, **BIG-OOF**
1: I 100% agree, Flower sounds absolutely amazing in powerful and emotional songs due to their voicebank. I'm a particular fan of using growl with Flower like *THATS SOME GOOD SHIT RIGHT THERE* 👌 #2 I am highly picky with Fukase. He definitely has the capacity to sound really nice, but oddly enough, alot of the covers I have found using him feel the need to pitch the off vocal either half an octave lower or higher than the original, and I personally HATE THAT (like he's a voicebank JUST TUNE HIM TO THE RIGHT PITCH FOR GODS SAKE SHEESH) 3: UNI has an adorable design, I've only heard her voice a few times and agree with you, she sounds very childish, high pitched, and annoying and it's a total shame given her design 4: I personally love Una's design, but I'm just a sucker for that Harajuku-esq, punk mixed with Lisa Frank appearance, but I definitely get how it would be not so satisfying to everyone lol
@@imhyperer-P Fukase can be difficult to use if you make him sing too high or low, Like people, vocaloids have their limits as well, that is why people change the pitch of songs for him. People also do the same for Piko, Len and other male vocaloids as well, it's not just Fukase.
@@yesplease.7433 it's different to me if they shift up or down by an entire octave, what gets me is when they go half way. I work with UTAU alot, and there are 100% times where the pitch has to be shifted, but going half between octaves has always been off-putting and just doesn't sound good to me (not just with Fukase, I see this alot with Nekomura and Flower as well, and don't enjoy it with any Vocaloids. That's actually why I'm not a huge fan of Neru or Haku either)
Fun fact: CUL's voice is sampled by Eri Kitamura, voice of Sayaka Miki from Puella Magi Madoka Magica! And CUL's voice sounds a lot like Sayaka's, too! Kitamura also sampled her voice in a later Vocaloid named LUMi. She has a lighter and more breathy voice compared to CUL, but still sounds pretty amazing. I think both CUL and LUMi are absolutely beautiful in their own ways! I like a lot of the obscure and unpopular Vocaloids, but some that I really like (besides CUL) include Sachiko, Matcha and Asaoka from the 575 Project, Yumemi Nemu, and Tohoku Zunko! I think there are Vocaloids that are more controversial than CUL, such as Mirai Komachi's voice sounding a lot like CUL or Rin or Gumi or Kanon, depending on who you ask, or the original designs from Spanish Vocaloids Bruno and Clara. I would love to see you dig deeper in the Vocaloid lore throughout this series.
I absolutely adore that u mentioned Azuki and Matcha! The 575 Project is really nice and I like both other designs, I honestly can’t decide on who I like more but, for now, I love both Azuki and Matcha!
Hiyama Kiyoteru is my favourite underrated vocaloid. His V4 rock voicebank is sheer perfection and no one can change my mind. He's so great I luv him ^¬^ Edit: Oh, I also really like Lumi, her voice is honestly beautiful
Me fave 'unpopular' vocaloids are •Cyber Diva •Piko •Cul •(dont judge) Big Al (Yeah im gonna die) •Lily •Fukase (dat not right, is it) And •Gachapoid Heheheheheh
@@dr.cocobuthumanized6134 Ki/oon is not updating him because he was a financial flop. They messed up his marketing and he didn't sell well to begin with. A big oof they did for his marketing was make people unable to use his pre-release trial. People who downloaded it were unable to use it and not allowed to publicly post anything made with it.
I first discovered cul by listening to her cover of circus monster, I swear to god that i have repeated the song over 200 times and i made all of my friends listen to that cover. I was so so so amazed by how perfect the tone matched the song!!! I seriously recommend everyone checking the cover out it’s insane!
One of the first songs I ever heard from CUL is "Aishitte hontou baka". It's a Puella Magi Madoka Magica fan song depicting the tragedy of Sayaka Miki, who is voiced by the same person who sampled CUL.
I know the video is uploaded in 2018 but I'll just leave a comment. Actually Flower is popular at least in Japan. She had live performance in Nico Nico Chou Party 2017 and 2018 . They even organize a DJ night based on Flower's songs. I think Flower is also popular in international fandom because I have seen people use her vb to sing in english. Also Una is very popular in Japan . She had a live performance in 2018 nico nico chou party. She kind of take Gumi's place in Vocaloid's song ranking .Like Fukase , she is popular among Japanese fans but not internationally while Fukase is popular among International fans but not the Japanese.
I actually didn't find out about the Flower DJ Night until a few months ago, and was very happy to see Flower being more popular than I originally thought. As for popularity in Japan, I did address this with Lily, and explained that as an American, I am only really aware of popularity among the American fandom. I do appreciate you pointing this out to me however, as I had no idea that Una was also more popular in Japan, and I'm glad to hear that given the quality of her voicebank!
Personally I really like the Utau Mawarine Shuu. Compared to a lot of other utau/vocaloid voices his is just so smooth and realistic, it almost sounds like a human.
Oliver, V4 Flower, SeeU, Fukase, Piko, Dex and Daina, and.....Otomachi Una!! These are my favorite lesser known Vocaloids. We can’t forget the memelord!!
gumi is my favorite and will always be my favorite. her english is AMAZING. like scary realistic at times. also i grew up with a lot of her songs before i really new what vocaloid was ( echo, copycat, again, all that emo shit)
My favorite unpopular vocaloids: *the meme squad* Every chinese Vocaloid Otomachi Una :3 IA Mayu (i'm not crazy it's just my opinion) SeeU Yuzuki Yukari (aaaah she's the best lol) OK yes some might be quite popular but it's not like they're from the mains or something -_-
Since I wouldn't consider Piko, flower, and Una unpopular nowadays, I'll list some of my favorite Vocaloids who _are_ underrated. -VY2 Yuuma -The ZOLA Project -Mayu -Arsloid -Avanna -Dex!!! He was my first Vocaloid!
i actually prefer flowers v3 design, now i love v4 flowers design and i'm so glad flowers company is kinda embracing the idea that there are two versions of flower but i liked the more feminine look on flower. v4 flowers design looks a little more childish, she's got bigger eyes and all and i liked the more mature look, since it matches a lot better with her voice. i love flower though, i think flower would probably be the first voicebank i'd buy if i could ever get the money to buy one, but i'd probably wait for a v5 flower and hopefully an english voice bank, i know producers like ghost have gotten her to sound alright in english but that requires a fuck ton of work since you have to autotune so much. also i don't know if i'm crazy but i don't actually see flowers voice as that androgynous?? maybe it's because singers popular in the west are usually metzosoprans (which i'm guessing is flowers ideal vocal range) so i've always seen her as female?? on a more serious note one thing that bugs me about flower stans is questioning her gender and **INSISTING** v flower is genderfluid or non-binary, it's a fine headcanon i guess but flower is very female and just because she's got short hair and barely any chest doesn't mean she's not female?? the idea of the design is to encapsulate the idea of what the voice sounds like, it's androgynous but is still female. everyone can have their on interpretations of flower, but telling people they're wrong is when the line is crossed. edit: headcanons are great for v flower!! i'm mostly talking about those who cause drama and insist their idea of v flowers identity is wrong, sorry if i seemed gatekeepy or saying that having headcanons for flowers gender identity is wrong!!
I love both designs, the whole Gothic mature design of her v3 is really beautiful and I still love it. And with Flower's voice, while I usually hear it as androgynous I agree 100% that it can be highly feminine as well. I headcannon flower as a trans boy myself, but I realize that she is cannonly a girl and while I can think what I want, that's just limited to my own thoughts ^.^
@@imhyperer-P i respect your headcanon 100%, i'm mostly bringing it up because people get so upset about it and have arguments about it, it really bugs me. i'm not saying your headcanon is wrong or that it's invalid!! sorry if i sounded kinda rude about the headcanon, some people online just start arguments and cause drama, it's so unnecessary. but yes v3 flower just has that gothic edge that i love. i feel like flower would definitely become more popular in the states if she had an english voicebank though
@@rosehandelman don't worry, I totally agree with you and you didn't come off as rude at all! I also hate when people try to fight that their headcannons are fact when that's simply not the case (though I still respect headcannons, but it is a pain when people take it too far) I actually think a mix of the v3 and V4 designs would be really cool, like to take elements from both to make something new, especially since v3 was more gothic while V4 is more punk. I think it'd be interesting to see the results!
@@imhyperer-P definitely, i feel like v5 flower should probably lean towards a more alternative rock approach, like a more mcr vibe for her english voice. her most popular songs have a similiar style to that and if they went for that approach she'd probably blow up in the states. i'd also kill to see v flower at a miku expo or miracle mirai concert, gynoid would really have to advertise it and make a lot of deals with crypton. but it's not impossible, ia's not owned by crypton
@@rosehandelman it would be pretty cool to see Flower in a Crypton concert, but I honestly feel like CFM would make deals for using Gumi before they'd go with Flower. But at least there was the "DJ Flower Night" as well as Flower appearing in the more recent Nico Nico Douga Parties!
I’m not Japanese but I’m French. In France, Lily and Flower are a little more popular then Kaito. I don’t know if it’s every city but in mine, they’re more popular then Kaito.
For me my favorite unpopular vocaloids would be SF-A2 Miki (nobody mentions her much) Hiyama Kiyoteru (ppl only remember him by Kaai Yuki tbh) Merli (she's being overshadowed by her sister Aoki Lapis) Mew Chika Anon Kanon (ppl were hyped up by her release assuming that they could probably replace the kagamines buuut ppl forgot they existed) Galaco (i heard that she almost got cancelled because her vb wasnt that successful thankfully the community saved her and got new vbs) Arsloid (he is very hard to use probably why ppl dont use that much of him) Wil (the dark skinned dude, out of the three in zola project, wil is the most unpopular)
Kanon, Miki, Galaco, and all of the Zola Project boys (Wil, Kyo, and Yuu) are all amazing voicebanks! I personally am not a huge fan of Hiyama (very rarely do I find covers or original songs using him that I enjoy) and I wasn't really impressed with Arsloid myself, which is a shame bc he has a nice design. I'll have to check out the other voicebanks you mention!
@@imhyperer-P This song might change your perspective on Arsloid ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-blk-Oi29Owc.html And here's one for Merli as well ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a_QoqcsrRgc.html
I swear almost no one mentions Kiyoteru whenever there's a convo abt unpopular vocaloids, he's a good boi and he deserves more love than he has rn. *and people who say that Hiyama sounds like KAITO can go commit toaster bath*
These are such amazing choices! Some of my other choices for the top underrated Vocaloids would be Tone Rion, Mew, Mirai Komachi, and Haruno Sora! I especially immediately fell in love with Tone Rion when I first got into Vocaloid. Her voice was so unique and sweet and I loved her design, and she is one of my all time favorite Vocaloids to this day😄
Tone Rion does have an adorable design! I never personally got into her voice (too high and 'kawaii' for my taste) though I definitely get why people enjoy her! Also Stan Mew. It's so rare to find uses of her, let alone *good* uses, but she sounds so relaxing and mature and I love her monochromatic design!
Len used to be my favorite, and then I learned about Piko hehe. These days I'd say the four "Meme Squad" guys are my favorites (Piko, Fukase, Oliver, Flower), but Len, Haku, Anon, Kanon and Yuuma (Yuma?) are all close to my heart.
You included vocaloids from the meme squad but they're hella popular 💀 Also I know tons of songs by all these vocaloids, most of them were pretty popular. Well... Otomachi Una and Cul are pretty unpopular but other than that, I think these vocaloids are pretty popular.
With me, my favorite unpopular vocaloids would be Kiyoteru, VY2, Yohioloid, Kokone, Tonio, and Sachiko! I seriously can't get enough of their voices and I wish there were more original songs for them!
Dex is my favorite underrated vocaloid. His bank is easy to use and tune, and his voice can get SO bassy and deep, but can still be used for higher ranges. His counterpart, Daina, is okay. Not my favorite, but she’s good!
To be honest I stopped keeping count of new vocaloids. They're usually bland and not very interesting. But I'll let fukase and two others pass because they're voicebanks are unique and designs are actually decent.
I don't pay much attention to them, mainly I stopped at the V3s and a handful of the V4 loids. There's still so many that I hear about where I'm like "oh, they exist?"