The blood moon game reminded me something frank lepore said once, and it really stuck with me for some reason; your decks need to have basic lands of each color equal to the amount of colored pips in your most color intensive spell of that color. Ex: if your deck has a cryptic in it you need at least three basic islands, if it has sheoldred you need at least two basic swamps and if your only white pip is on swords, you should put a single basic plains so that you can fetch or draw into.
That is well reasoned. It's still very much a guideline, because if you are on 5C, running double island, mountain, forest, swamp... is going to be more harm than good.
On the other hand I just laugh each time opponent plays a Blood Moon. Playing 5c with no basics BTW. However I play in cEDH where tons of mana dorks and mana rocks are the norm. Unless Blood is serious part of your metagame I would just not bother adding that many basics to your deck myself in 4 or 5 colors it losses you the game quite often and that is coming from a 100 card format.
i was so confused looking at that atraxa bloodmoon deck but the fact that cgb knew what was going on right away and analyzed it all is why we need him to play more timeless
I've been playing the standard modern random midrange deck in timeless. Not really seen any " combos" yet. Strongest play I have seen is a turn one The One Ring. Uro is strong. Oko is annoying. Format is fun so far though.
I don't think there are actually that many new combos with the timeless format, keeping in mind except Khans cards, no new cards were actually added in Timeless that wasn't already on historic. It's really the cards that are banned in historic that may be combo fodder (off the top of my head, thoracle, time warp, nexus of fate. Intruder alarm at a stretch) Keeping in mind counterspell and memory lapse also both got unbanned, delver and delver adjacent decks (probably the ones with bowmaster) may just keep the combo decks in check. For the time being, I think this might just be the bowmaster format until it gets restricted, then it'll become the Ragavan format, once that gets restricted, maybe there won't be QUITE as many delver decks (I mean, fetchlands + unalchemied DRC + treasure cruise is still a house). Then we might need to worry about combo.
Doubt they will give wild cards for cards made restricted unless it's literally only playable in Timeless and/or not already been banned somewhere else.
I like the idea of the timeless format. Would definitely watch those! I don’t play standard anymore but I always watch the standard vids to see cards I might be missing in explorer. Might try timeless!
idk, I tend to crush bowmaster decks w/ UR aggro, and I don't even have ragavans yet. I've casted treasure cruise straight into sheoldred and still won w/ it. Decks nuts.
I find it very funny that some plays with the fetch lands implies dealing yourself massive damage, being at 12 hp at turn 2 from your own cards, but with a perfect manabase that's just wild :)
I got a few things to say(nobody asked),reprieve and lapse are better than counterspell, binding is better than push and void rend, rusko and shelly aren't really good, and divine purge is better than veredict. I'd recomend playing tef3, and DRS(splash an azban triome for domain and DRS G activation) Rusko and delve spells are really a nombo and discard spells aren't that good in timeless because often times you are going to be trading 1 for 1 and topdecking. I think esper is either a lurrus deck or a tef3 deck, I've seen some shelly/the one ring esper decks but they just lose to every other good card in the format. Anyway in this format good doesnt cut it, you cards have to be better than good, still not a bad build for your first time.
In the 1st game, the sentinel is actually very good at pressuring, and allowing decks to attack in the late game. People have been playing it all over, most notably being a very high pick in vintage cube.
we just love watching you have fun so play whatever format you enjoy. But i would absolutely love to see some Explorer / Timeless content. Standard feels so stale
I got into M:tG back when Invasion block was released. At that time there were just a few formats: block, standard, extended, and type 1 with extended being my favorite. As someone that has been watching you mostly for your standard content, i welcome you covering timeless for it reminds me of extended. there are just TOO many formats for me to keep up with. BUT... i am interested in 'what are the newest cards/decks in standard' and 'what are the new strats where EVERYTHING is allowed?'. every other format falls between these two extremes. i can dig this.
I don’t care for that format that starts with “A”, but I am excited about timeless. Get to play fetches, monkey, Bowmasters, brainstorm, etc. A lot of fun stuff to do!
@@cheezybastard8661 It does, but I’m still excited for all the other stuff we get to play. If it feels like alchemy is taking the format over then I probably won’t play it. Otherwise I’m all for the new stuff! I do wish they had the format without alchemy cards though.
@@benweirich4176 I invite you to consider that Oracle of the Alpha summons the fucking Power 9 (banned in just about EVERY format) into your deck. "Alchemy won't take over the format." What a fucking joke that is. 😅🤣🤣
@@cheezybastard8661 Meh, the power 9 is suprisingly tame when locked behind a 3 cost 2/3 flying you have to play first. In a format that's more than 50% Some combination of Leyline combo, Minion of the Mighty or Discover combo. Most games are effectively over before you even cast Oracle. If anything in Alchemy is a problem, it's Fragment Reality.
@covertgoblue Sauron's Ransom to fuel the graveyard is solid with Dig and cruise. Mystic sanctuary strong too. I feel like we can get away with running a low land count too, 22 lands with 2 lorien revealed feels good so far. I am also enjoying fragment reality vs all the 1 drops, blood moon, and sneak attack. Though I feel that Dark Bant built low to the ground is the way to go. Oko, Bowmaster, Dig and lots of interaction. Veil of summer is really solid too.
Timeless best format on arena fight me. I've waited for this format ever since I learned about nexus of fate (yes I'm one of the degenerates who enjoys nexus of fate) a few years ago. :DDDDD Really hope we get FOW it's a great spell to keep a format healthy
I fully enjoy watching you play Timeless but have no interest in playing it myself! I'd rather you play it like once a week or once a month, just enough to show some cool stuff that we can enjoy for those of us who never will play the format.
This is awesome I don't think it will all be bowmasters because you have access to everything so honestly it's a chaos format where everything can be seen if you build your deck right
I love the idea and i will mess with it but im not getting more than 1 copy of any of the broken stuff theirs like 10 cards i think will be restricted within a year atleast. Bowmaster, deathrite shaman, dark ritual, necropotence, karn, bloodmoon etc
If they get restricted, you get 3 wildcards back (if you have 4) anyway. So you end up in the same place as if you just got 1 copy (well, having 4 copies also better if there are ever no ban list events that arn't also open access). There are exceptions to this where these cards are legal in other arena formats, but for those particular examples you listed you'd get your wildcards back (except mabe Karn? Pretty sure that's still legal in historic). I think the bigger risk is that if Timeless just doesn't turn out to be that good of a format, then you'd still lock up 1 of each wildcard for cards only playable in a format you don't then want to play. But you run into that same risk with getting 1 of everything anyway.
Hey guys, i've been playing magic on and off since 2000. Just recently decided to give Magic Arena a try but i haven't played magic for about 4-5 years. Is there a nice standard control deck i can build? That's just my favorite type of deck. help is much appreciated :)
Azorius and Esper control decks are still pretty big in the meta at the moment, though takes a lot of wildcards to play them (because all the boardwipes are rares).
@CovertGoBlue 2:00 When you are asking what word to use for something that is so defining that the only real counter-play to it is itself, that word is degenerate. People use the term degenerate in a lot of different ways, but the true definition of 'degenerate gameplay' is some form of gameplay in which it forces all other modes to 'degenerate' to itself. So when something is so strong that to beat it you have to use it, that means that thing is 'degenerating' gameplay, and can be called degenerate.
Are the moxes and tine walk and other cards conjured by alchemy cards not here? That seems odd considering they have done 90% of the work to get that working
Probably for balance reasons. They'd completely dominate the meta. It'd be vintage, without any of the glue that holds the format together (FoW, FoN, Flusterstorm). If you look at Vintage decklists, almost all the decks are playing 1 of each mana rocks in the power 9, and the majority of decks are playing 1 of each of the power 9. Almost all the interactions that happen in the format are just people trying to stop the 1 gimmick of the other guy's deck (oath of druids, tinker , paradoxical outcome, doomsday.. whatever while trying to position themselves to go off with counterspell backup). Without all the free/1 cost interaction (I mean, there IS spell pierce, yay?), all the fast mana would just mean the format would be just a bunch of linear decks trying to go off as quickly as possible. Especially in the absence of the cards that provide alternatives to this (Bazaar of Baghdad for dredge, Mishra's Workshop for lock peices etc).
Man this format was fun for day 1 while everyone was figuring it out, now I see the same 3 decks every single game and the people piloting them are SOOOOOO SLOW because they dont even understand what they are playing
the main reason i dont play timeless, is that the "Magical Archive" cards are all rares ... even if they are normaly uncommon or commons ... they want me to spend like 20 rare wildcards on UNCOMMONS ... no f them
it's funny that a mostly control player is saying that tibalt's trickery players aren't playing real magic. lol. also the legend rule changed years before the original khans.
