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Atsu starting off with genuinely sad news about his mental health and getting cheated on is genuinely sad. Like those are REAL topics, personal or not. But then to use that to spearhead all of the flailing, libel and just UNECEESARY drama that has pretty much either been patched up or blown over, just to rehash all this shit is crazy. IDK who's on his side anymore but it really looked like he blamed EVERYONE in the community and if that's how he wants to go out, that's all onhim
Which makes people think that he is spiraling and that he needs help. Many people are trying to help him, Gacha is being really nice, Artonecy too. Keep in mind, dude was flamed, wife cheated, none of his friends reached out during that- this can fuck up an individual BAD. I wish he actually go get help and listens to Gacha Smack, we know how Atsu is, he lies, even his mods does. He literally needs to change his environment entirely. For someone spiraling it is expected to do that. Because like you said, its effed up.
@@selenastratsukino7695 And even Dicktone was trying to give him an advice to stop all the bs because Atsu is clearly in an awful state. Like, just make an apologize to the people he called out and threw under the bus. However, this guy decided to make things even worse by include more people in his docs. I hope he won't do anything dumb to himself after all of these.
@@cyramiko6601 he wasnt doing that cause he cared he was doing that to save face because the reality of it is that he wished for this to happn to Atsu hes two faced
@@rodgerrodriguez3621 There is "context about everything" and 5 hours + of videos lol. Most people are not terminally online consuming content non stop. I legit have around 1 hour per day free so I would need minimum 5 days worth of free time to listen to everything and that is also assuming I will waste all my free time on drama lol
Its crazy that Atsu demands evidence for Brax accusations when atsu himself loves to subtweet(accusing other cc) with BELEIVE IT OR NOT, NO EVIDENCE LOL.
Agreed, but Nothing is going to help him, bc even the person he loves and being in relationships with for 10 years cheated on him, if I were him I think there’s no moving on for him.. he need someone to be with him but there’s no one..😢 #pity
Big respect for not adding to the dog pile. It's refreshing to hear a wise and nuanced voice to what happened. People fail to see this completely zoomed out.
He is a real father in real life, not saying all father figure is a responsible person, but to be a good father is to be a responsible person, so yeah ig he is a real responsible person who think bigger than these drama, he knows many real life problem is much much bigger to think of than this childish drama.
He is the most sane cc I have ever seen. He handles everything perfectly.Just doesn't go online and brag without knowing context and researchs about them. And his content is also really good and intellectual.
Well its nlt that hard reflecting and understanding the mistakes you made, yet many people fail at it and instead end up making a bad decision that makes things hundred time worst Yeah honestly more people should folllw Smack's advices on that
The Mike Tyson’s advice plus with your “Get shot straight to the top and they are terrified of the fall, but the good thing for the people who fall all the time, is that they get back up” that is inspiring and based as hell smacky
This is why I love you Smack. Truthful, Blunt and also wise. I wouldn’t also give attention to Atsu since he just has his own intention. Seems like he is really unstable now and I know from studying psychology a lot seeing the situation now he just does things emotionally
That’s why even though if you don’t like the person or like a person we at least need to be friendly/humble.. When you’re an asshole all the damn time and act like you have it all cause everything is going well for you, in the end it’d end up coming back to you in the worst way..
Bro felt whatever situation tectone had gone through after being painted as a villain and he’s already losing it. He tried taking everyone down with him including his friends and claims it to be the tectone route lol
Its crazy that Atsu demands evidence for Brax accusations when atsu himself loves to subtweet(accusing other cc) with BELEIVE IT OR NOT, NO EVIDENCE LOL.
It takes a fair deal of maturity to step up and apologize when you're part of a group of people that have done some questionable shit (regardless of who did what). It seems like he never considered that as an option at any point, but hopefully he can learn from this and stop hurting people in the future.
Especially a group of ppl who just ignores stuff, backseat others lives, doesnt own up/step up. Def not the best. Now that his "friends" didnt reach out to when at his lowest, thats gotta be a wake up call and he"ll have to spring clean his friends list soon.
I think you missed the parts where Atsu does NOT want to get acquaintance with his old "friends" anymore and he also want to quit his CC career. Basically that entire group is full of snakes that only cares about themselves so this shit will happen sooner or later anyway. Brax was just the trigger.
I have not seen any of his "friends" have his back only comments in YT, Twitter, reddit, etc. No matter what people type or say online none of us really knows the CC. The fact that not one of his friends/coworkers had his back that he has interacted with irl and became closer to was a pretty big sign for me. I do hope he gets help and re-evaluates himself and the people he calls friends.
That is what my family always taught me: when problems arise, reflect on your own actions first, and more often than not you’ll see that it was your fault all along Can’t assign fault to yourself all the time by default, but it’s where one should always start from
I love your stance on this and the Mike Tyson quote especially. It's very mature and if Atsu is willing to listen to any creator, I hope he listens to you.
Tbh I’m so glad I found you because your approach here was amazing. Your words taught me something important too. I loved this video with you being so open and honest. Beautiful sir.
Yoo man I ran into your stream last night on twitch while you were giving people great advice on accountability and health. I just wanted to say I took what you said with consideration man, it wasn't just motivating hearing you words and wisdom yesterday it was meaningful and eye opening man, I hope you know I appreciated it even if I wasn't the one that asked the questions, some, if not all your answers you gave us were genuine and more than plausible. I reflect a lot on my decisions and character so I can definitely say I got a lot to work on and what you had to say yesterday was what I needed. I hope you know you're a real one G ✊🏽
I love you for this GachaSmack, thank you for addressing this drama in the right way. You are a mature dude and it’s easily reflected through your words. Atsu is definitely going through a lot and it shows through his doc. He definitely did not handle this situation correctly.
I feel you especially on the friends having some backbone. They watched their friend get burnt to a crisp and kept quiet. Just watching the cowardice was crazy to me. I'll be damned if my people did me like that. But I will say that from a different perspective, if he was truly innocent in a sense of not actually lying and manipulating to the degree he was accused of. Its a bit hard to come out and admit fault to something you know you didn't do. Because we have to admit the truly egregious accusations he had were never proven to be true. Him blacklisting people stayed at rumor level. Him having power at hoyoverse stayed at rumor level. His wrongdoing was refusing to network with people for, lets admit, dumb ass reasons. But I will dial it back to say I'm a strong believer that people that are in bad situations must strive to see how they were at fault for letting the situation happen. Because if you don't you are doomed to let it happen again. So I'll have to say majority of your message I agree with.
Some things he did were proved, he had everyone against him on many accusations like being manipulative and badmouthing Brax, I think he could and should have apologized for it because he know he cannot defend himself from these claims given all the proofs, while I agree its hard apologizing for something you've not done, he apologized for nothing Instead he reflected the blame on everyone I dont know how close he was to his friends but he blamed many there from being fake friends because they didnt defend him or even admited some of the things he did, can be considered betrayal or just honesty, but he decided to turn against them definitely, so did he with Brax surprisingly because they talked and clarified everything like adults so that they could move on Honestly.. I just think Atsu managed to get everyone against him with that one, and sadly that mean no one is gonna stand up to defend him on that, first because there is nothing to defend anymore, secondly because there's no one left to defend him
@@Lew98765 i honestly don’t think this last document was a good move either. If my friends were to throw me under the bus to defend themselves I wouldn’t address it publicly. He bit off more than he could chew mentioning all these people.
@@AnimeGeniuss well his friends didnt really try to bring him down either, I just think they didnt defend him or said he may have been a bit manipulative/said bad things on Brax back when the previous drama happened, which was proved by screenshots of a private server anyway The problem is that he apparently kept some grief toward them, I can get that no one really defended him and he didnt like that but he kinda earned that drama, his decisions lead him to this situation, so no one defending him is sad but he also have to take some responsabilities, but instead he started blaming everyone in his last document even people who literaly did nothing and that obviously forced everyone mentionned to react Like even Dish who's not into drama had to defend herself Trully a weird move
I think in this whole situation, everyone involved was wrong to a degree. Some things they did were valid while others were not and, in the end, Atsu was the one who lost the most out of all of this. It's really sad how this whole thing broke friendships, burnt bridges, and completely turned the community upside down. It can be boiled down to some high school drama type stuff, but because it put so many careers at risk, it became a high school drama with repercussions instead. Atsu shouldn't have tried to take everyone down with him. There's nothing wrong with pointing out things he believes are incorrect, but he also needs to take accountability for the things that he did as well. Or at the very least, don't be upset when people fire right back at him. I think what he has gone through is terrible and I wish him the best for healing, and I think getting off the internet is the best thing he can do in that regard. Brax feeling isolated and not getting the chance for exclusive deals and speaking up about it is not a bad thing and he has the right to stand up for himself. I don't like how he denies his part in Atsu's viewer count going down. The "covid buff" went away like 2 years ago and anyone can see that the situation was the main catalyst for it. I'm happy that he's very successful now but I do hope he doesn't weaponize this whole drama because I think that's the last thing the community needs. I'm going to be honest here and say I don't like Tectone's content. I think it's very predatory and it only creates more toxicity. However, I do acknowledge that he has suffered quite a lot in the past few years and his ability to call BS is second to none. Being an asshole doesn't mean that you aren't human or don't have feelings and I think one of the big takeaways I have from this drama is that having some empathy does help. I hope he has found peace and I also hope that he doesn't milk this drama any further, since I think Atsu has already been through enough, but that's not up to me. As for the whole Pinkchyu thing with Atsu, I don't fully understand what that is about. But her response on Twitter (which I think got deleted? I wasn't able to find it again), was a bit concerning from an emotional standpoint. It's very clear that she also has had gone through some hard times, so I also hope she was able to recover and be able to move forward. I think the comments replying to hers were very uncalled for and very gross, dehumanizing her and just being horrible in general. Denying someone's trauma is never a good look either. As for other content creators like Dish and Tuonto, I don't know how I fully feel about their responses, but it just goes to show that relationships between most content creators are superficial to a degree. They might become more genuine overtime, but all of them know that PR is important. I don't blame them since this is their career and they have the right to defend it. Throwing other under the bus to defend it is something I don't feel ok with but again, since their career would be at risk, at the very least it's understandable but more morally questionable. I feel bad that Zyox and any other uninvolved individual was thrown into this whole situation. It just goes to show that being an online personality always comes with its risks and that you need to be ready and prepared whenever stuff like this comes at you.
Very well said. To add a bit more on the Dish and Tuonto stuff I think Atsu was a bit too harsh, I get your friends not having your back on certain aspects can be frustrating especially so with the predicament Atsu is in, but this is their livelihood, can't say I necessarily blame them for attempting to stay out of it, though people did spin Dish's tweet a while back pretty badly iirc. Also, while I sympathize with Brax's feelings, I can't say I agree with his overall document, I think he could have apologized better for the blacklist stuff at minimum, because that was a big narrative against Atsu when his first doc came out.
nicely said, and about tectone meh, I can see that the man's living his life, and he never really milking drama regarding atsu, most of the time it is atsu who keeps bringing up his name. So by right, tectone has the right to respond.
I dunno, man. I like some of your level headed points, Why should Atsu be the one to apologize when everyone was manipulative? Brax objectively confessed to lying, but didn't want to publicly apologize. Atsu's friends never spoke up for him, I'd at least hope my friends would support me until they knew the whole story. His wife cheated on him. He became suicidal. His friends were just as manipulative, Brax was a coward. This really was a bunch of grown adults acting like elementary school kids, and now someone got seriously hurt. I think a lot of the CCs in this community (including Atsu) suck, and are egotistical, selfish people.
heh ironic.. considering tectone and Co are preaching accountability out the wahzuu... theres an irony that these people should be held accountable but Atsu was made the scapegoat and cross bearer for these CCs sins when he ultimately did nothing wrong
Ok but the part about suicidal and stuff was just outright manipulation, idk how you don't see it. It felt eerily like James Somerton's apology with that part.
@@kaizenarias You may not be grasping the gravity of what he is about to lose in addition to what he has lost. Suicide following the destruction of your family/marriage and the destruction of your career/financial stability is not by any means difficult to imagine.
You are completely right, despite the fact atsu is in the wrong because he should have apologized and he sucks as you said, it is sad how his friends abandoned him the moment he stopped being useful to them.
This made me respect you a lot more! I really dont get why every single CC make video about this unless they are involved in the drama themselves with Atsu. Whoever who isnt involved just wanna farm clout and recognition
Smack I agree with you 100%. That being said, I'm no expert on the matter, but it seems like Atsu isn't ready or to the stage of realizing that he messed up... or he has too much pride to do so !!
I feel like everyone does have a fault. Even though atsu shouldn't have written it that way, but its true. Hes not a victim but hes not wrong either. I think everyone is valid to a certain degree and to make atsu say sorry alone is not going to stop anything. Hes also going through a lot just like everyone else. I think everyone who has participated should accept, acknowledge and have empathy for each other.
You need to accept YOUR own fault before crying to anyone period about anything. Life doesn’t go anywhere by blaming everything else regardless of how true it is. There’s an inner peace to controlling what you can control which is yourself.
Alot of his friends failed him. Tuonto in particular if i am being honest. Alot of shit happens and he is at the centre of it. Yet he just kept quiet and i can see Atsu really trying to helping him. From all of this drama, the 1 thing to learn is to choose ur friends wisely. Choose some1 who will take a stand and help u and will support u in bad times.
I just found out about your channel recently because of the editor drama. I gotta say, Gacha Smack is my type of creator for sure. So charismatic and funny yet wise as well. Subbed man! Keep up the great work!
I do think self reflection is super important. As I've gotten older I've had the hindsight to realize that much of what got me into bad situations as a teenager were things I did to put myself there. I think you have some solid insight, and I'm glad you didn't get more involved than you needed to. Keep up the great content brother.
GachaSmack with a legendary response. Recently discovered you with the Jiaxin video, and loved your content ever since. Glad to see such a strong-minded individual with such good takes or statements! Much love you to you and your family! Keep it up Gacha on your grind and climb!
The way Atsu handled himself with the entire fiasco is like banking all of your stats on Crit Damage and no Crit Rate and instantly flopping with his AOE nuke in the CC community.
Interesting viewpoints in the video, I do love seeing people's opinions when those are well articulated such as here. I would also want to ask, though, with regards to the apology... What did Atsu *actually* do wrong, in a way that matters? Now that we know that people's livelihoods weren't affected, nor were they at stake, his misdemeanours seem to be... Being rude? At worst, excluding someone from social events? Sure, you can say that's not a nice thing to do, I'd agree, but at the end of the day... Who cares? This is no matter that deserves to blow up to the degree it did. I didn't even know Atsu existed before this whole thing, personally, but I can't help but feel like there was next to nothing he did here that deserved this level of vitriol, hate, and proportion. (IMO, ideally, he should not have responded at all. Who the hell cares if someone you - general you - met years back felt like they got disliked for no reason. Why even entertain this. This is adult life, not highschool.)
as a person who has tried to keep up with everything, atsu bad mouthed (to whatever degree) brax due to brax being paranoid or weird and that likely led to his friend group avoiding brax or not really caring about him. brax became paranoid and assumed that because atsu didnt like him that he was being blacklisted from events which is........not entirely true but is in a way. atsu did help brax land a contract with hoyoverse, but due to brax talking to hoyoverse employees about the drama atsu eventually said that he didnt want to be at events with him (he felt like talking to employees about this was a huge overreach over nothing). now from what I could gather these arent hoyo sponsored events but more personal creator events like tuonto hosted an event so brax wasnt invited (tuonto also at the time didnt like brax due to him accidentally doxxing his then girlfriend). now I dont really understand all the different events that brax was talking about (or even atsu) but from what I could gather the specific "exclusion" was from personal events
This is kinda how I feel, at least with Brax and Atsu, I recall seeing Brax's document a while back so learning that he wasn't blacklisted made me feel odd when that was Brax's main point. The shit talk (if you would even call it that) and picture things feel like nitpicks and don't seem like a big deal. Don't personally know about anything other creators and Atsu, and I might do digging into it later, since there is some stuff with Tectone and him apparently but in terms of Brax and Atsu stuff, I've yet to see anything he did that is worthwhile actually mentioning/scrutinizing.
TLDR ,atsu loves to subtweet(accusing people with no evidence),then brax responded with his bad experience with atsu(note that someones experience is not strong evidence).Now Atsu demands evidence for brax claims.NOW HE KNOWS THE FEELING WHEN SOMEONE GOT ACCUSED WITH NO EVIDENCE,MAYBE DONT SUBTWEET PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PLACE LOL. In present,he still does not acknowledge his own fault and blaming other people.
@@imanzulkarnaian8528 im like 90% sure brax subtweeted him first on his private account. brax subtweeted him after atsu told him that he didnt want to be friends
@@FremKnightLazI think you've displayed a lack of maturity here. As is commonly said, people with lots of influence must be very aware of how they use that influence. They cannot afford to use it carelessly and they also cannot afford to pretend that they do not have it. This is the reason why it is irresponsible for influencers to date their fans. And unfortunately this is the lesson that Atsu is learning the hard way with regards to the Brax situation. So here are the things Astu did wrong with regards to Brax 1. He called Brax a creep in his clique of big hoyo creators. Atsu said that he did not blacklist Brax but that simply does not cut it when he's doing. With his level of influence and control that might as well be blacklisting. 2. He actively discouraged people from interacting with Brax I believe when asked about Brax he said something like "I don't like Brax because he's untrustworthy and a creep and he spreads rumours and is using me to move his career forward but if you want to contact him, you can." That last sentence does not absolve him here. What he's doing is blatant and obvious. 3. He positioned himself as the gatekeeper of his friend group. Atsu claimed that there is no need for people to expect to be invited to parties or hang out with his friends. Additionally he claimed that he dislikes it when people use others to grow their platform. So he positioned himself in a place where he could gatekeep who interacted with who. But this was just a dumb move on his part.
He's been addressed, of course he needs to reply, even if the reply is to not elaborate on it. You really gonna hold him "accountable" for this one? and not the one who tried to bring everyone down with him and tried to carefully word in a SA allegation??? You guys suck his soft balls hard before you even clicked the play button 😂
This has all the marks of someone wielding suicide for pity points and as a shield from criticism. It was immediately mentioned in his tweet and then again in the opening of the Google doc. This was almost certainly a very intentional and calculated appeal to emotion to draw people to his side before launching into a scorched earth 34 page screed. It's all consistent with his past emotionally manipulative and sociopathic behavior. He even had some of his own chat mods calling it out as such.
Idk usually people with sociopathic and or narcissistic tendencies don’t tend to attempt to take their life and I don’t think it’s fair to speculate about manipulation here considering the seriousness of his mental situation
@@xoxolrvtnz "usually people with sociopathic and or narcissistic tendencies don’t tend to attempt to take their life" Think about this for a second. You're almost there. A true statement in a vacuum but also completely useless and irrelevant in specific cases such as this when context and specific facts are known. We know for a FACT he has a history of slander and manipulation. All of which is consistent with the very 34 page document in question. Also even if we were give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's not lying or greatly exaggerating about suicide he's still wielding it in the most disgusting way possible before launching into a scorched earth screed. Invoking suicide is not a free pass to throw haymakers unchallenged but that's exactly what he's trying to do. "I don’t think it’s fair to speculate about manipulation" We don't have to speculate. He has a history of it and it's in our face right now. It's clearly working on some people, too.
I feel bad for him, not because he deserves it, but because he is suffering. He has done horrible things and hurt a lot of people and sometimes those actions have consequences, thankfully. I feel bad for him only as far as I would feel bad for anyone who is suffering. I hope he gets the help he needs and becomes a better person.
Its crazy that he demands evidence for brax accusations while he openly subtweets people WITH NO EVIDENCE AT ALL(accusing other cc of something without evidence)
I doubt he could make an apology like that, due to the circumstances. He did reflect on the situation, and came to the conclusion that he was wronged. Which, technically from an outside perspective, was true to a degree. It did seem like the main grievance for him was that his friends (one of which he considers a brother) didn't come strongly enough to his defense during the height of the drama, and instead hid or decided to stay neutral/fence sit. Had they strongly refuted a lot of the claims made of Brax and others, maybe public perception would be different. It was the 20v1 of the year before Drake and Kendrick.
Despite all the things Atsu has done, I genuinely feel bad for him with how his current state is. All he had to do was apologize, move on and make amends. Even teccy said he would've loved to have Atsu on his podcast. It would've been so fulfilling to see them talk things out.
This is why smack is my favorite. Right here man. Big facts everything you said. And the fact this is the route you chose to respond..speaks to YOUR character. But sadly people like Atsu arent built like this. Sad. You the man smack.
I think some context that people might be missing is that atsu helped brax land a very good contract with hoyoverse and did keep things pretty respectful between them in their personal interaction. now he was also telling his friends about brax and to what degree he bad mouthed him we will never know. sure atsu messed up in that regard but the situation isnt black and white. brax made mistakes jumping to conclusions in some areas, atsu made mistakes and not understanding his influence amongst his friend group, tuonto wasnt honest about having issues with brax and pinned it all on atsu, tectone calling atsu a master manipulator over things that he didnt do (back to my comment about atsu helping brax get a contract with hoyo). even if tectone backtracked or corrected those claims the damage was already done. just weird stuff all around my read of the situation is atsu didnt like how brax was approaching him, maybe said things he shouldnt have said to his friends which led to brax feeling alienated from people he barely knew, which made him paranoid about things that partly involved atsu and partly didnt (like saying he felt like his career was hurt by atsu despite atsu helping him get a contract), but he blamed atsu for all of it. like everyone hates atsu now but honestly I think most people would react the same way when most of the allegations against them are just conspiracies. if this whole thing is going to get sorted out people need to start over form the beginning about what happened and what went wrong and remove all of the conspiracy and looking for a villain but I feel like we're way past that point.
Self reflection and taking responsibility for one’s action is such a huge thing to have, for yourself and the people around you. Atsu definitely needs to. Also , suicide/attempts are extremely serious, but leading this entire document with it and going into what he did is wack
@@natediaz1863 When someone isn't steered in the right direction or feel they don't have any support, they'll lash out like this. I've seen it, I've felt it, and it's why I always try to at least help a friend understand where they were wrong before abandoning them pending on how serious it is.
