Great vid Phil, before my first trip to Thailand I remembered reading "Private Dancer" and chuckling to myself about the protagonist in the book confidently thinking, "That guy is such a simp" and "That'll never be me acting like that". Well after my trip, I was "that guy" (without the sad ending in the book).
Yes, somebody else commented about that book. In my opinion, it’s OK but fits into the usual Thailand holiday romance novel. They all seem to have the same plot line. And it is hopelessly outdated because of the introduction of the smart phone. Thank you for your comment.
Tried a few times with newbies, giving advice, they need to make their own mistakes, they are love bombed and fall head over heels with the young fit girl they met in a bar, and oh yes, “she is different” but until they work out what’s going on for themselves (with loads of denial) you let the be 😊
With bargirls and most Pattaya girls, the fire only burns hot while you are boots on the ground in Pattaya and spending some money on this girl. As soon as you leave, the fire will go out and she will find new customers in short order
@@JohnMarkwick-t3v I hate to say it but 99times out of 100 you are right. Even seasoned veterans like me have been caught out for a bit until reality wakes you up…
Great Video. Many expats I have talked to when discussing Bar girls, and GoGo girl relationships always have the same advice. "SHE IS NOT DIFFERENT" If a Newbie 1st timer to Pattaya says he has met the love of his life. She is different and she loves him. YES I would probably not be able to control an outburst of laughter. But then I would help the guy NOT lose any more money!
So many “han$um men” that visit the Kingdom are very inexperienced with woemyn. Being previously married for20 or 30 years does not make one experienced with woemyn … 😂🤡😵
If you spend enough time in beer bars you will meet all kinds of girls. They are not all the same just as the guys are not all the same. I sampled the goods for 15 years and had Thai and Phillipino girlfriends who were University teachers, nurses, waitresses, hotel receptionists, office workers and bargirls before I met the Mrs. Take your time and enjoy the journey. You never know who you might meet.
@@LePubPattaya You should go Phil. Get out of your comfort zone. English is spoken a lot more in the PI than in Thailand so maybe not so much of challenge.
A) MY girl is different B) I am a sexy man C) I can speak, read & write thai almost perfectly D) the sun revolves around the earth --- Cheers from Hua Hin !
Excellent video. You are right though some farang / Thai relationships do work but you have to work at it and meet the cultures half way - I have been married to my Thai wife for 18 years now and if anything we have grown closer together. I learnt my lessons early with regards to women. Avoid the hard nuts and those who have been in the bar scene too long as you are asking for trouble. True love grows slowly on firm foundations.
Thank you for your comment. It’s interesting that the vast majority of people replying on this video. I’ve had successful relationships with girls. They have met in bars. And yet you never hear about them, you only hear about the scammers.
Great video - Mind you, I currently have a longish term Thai 'friend' who I see every trip and, imo, is 'different'!! Unusually, in my experience, she is completely transparent about her business model (in other words, she lets me know if she has a customer / where she is staying etc ) This works well for both of us as I like the honesty.
@@LePubPattayaYou shouldn’t ever apologize to “strong and independent woemyn”, as they are horrible creatures that need to be called out, and no self respecting man wants anything to do with them … 😂
Interesting vid, Phil. Some thoughts: 1. It's refreshing to hear a Westerner pronounce "Pattaya" correctly! 2. Your girlfriends have been different, right? I would be intrigued to hear how you have found them. 3. Money is always the bottom line. If a guy wants to "donate" 10,000 baht to a female friend, and that's nothing to him, up to him.
Thank you for your comment. This story isn’t about me and it doesn’t really include any kind of experiences that I have had. But I do listen to customer customers talking about their experiences over the years.
@LePubPattaya You're welcome. I figured that it wasn't about you. It seems like you've dated some good women who didn't work in bars. Not that all bar girls are bad.
@@dubsdolby9437 yep I played away from home last trip and heard myself saying “she’s different”…. Finished after 6 weeks of me leaving when she was obviously boom booming customers whilst swearing blind she wasn’t- so seasoned campaigners still get caught up with it all…although looking at myself in the mirror I ask myself how I could have been so stupid…. Probably because I have a heart and wanted to believe it
Girls here kind of change there attitude when they get to 35+ , once the regular encounters start to dry up they start to look for something more permanent
@@LePubPattaya unfortunately I’ve met many bar girls that are devious, manipulative and play with emotions to extort money. Although I found a good wife Thai women think differently and her and have ups and downs because western thinking and Thai culture are hard to blend…
I read some comments about asshole bar owners in Pattaya recently on FaceBook. Watching this makes me realize that you are a "different" bar owner Phil!
@@Steven-t9s well what’s the confusing part then , my philosophy is that bars are old generations not new , I consider myself 54 last of that generation town will change now … bar will be less and less … it’s changed in my decade plus being here and away from old Pattaya , some see it some can’t ….. that’s life
@@LePubPattaya is there a more "famous last words quote " in thailand for a farang to say ,i think not ,mite as well get the douerie ready for mumma and puppa in Issan and the pig on a spit (payed by the farang of course )for the wedding .
Spot on Egg! Definitely the best Patts/Thai type video I've seen. Many Thai girls are different, although IMO we need to step out of our conventional western thinking to see it and that can take a bit of time and experience.
Brilliant Phil, I could not agree with you more. By the time you are in your 50's you should be smart enough to make the right decisions without the flack from the peanut gallery. Cheers
Hi Phil. I’m in my 50s. Back in 2010 I met a dancer in one of the first gogos on LK metro. I am still with her, but not married. It has not been always easy and is pretty expensive but I made the choice to keep it going. I think anyone in this situation needs to maintain a certain level of attachment in order to deal with the nasty surprises that these TGs conjure up from time to time. Then, from that place of detachment simply decide if they want to keep going or not. Over time it gets a little easier to predict possible problems and see them more objectively.
I read it twice. Once as a tourist and then when I bought a bar, I read it again. Mr. Lether clearly has good insight into the bar industry pre mobile phone, but smart phones have changed everything and this is outdated.
I think it all depends on what the guy is looking for. If you're looking for real love and a real commitment, you're not likely to find it in the sex tourist areas of Bangkok, Phuket or Pattaya. My Thai GF is not from any of these areas. She's educated with a master's degree, has her own car and house and comes from a family that has money. 95% of Thai women are not involved in the sex industry. You just have to know how to go about finding a good one if that's what you want. You have to also realize that every Thai woman is going to be interested in your money to a certain extent, especially because the women are often responsible for their parents as they age. So if you get involved with a Thai woman, you basically are getting involved financially in some part to the care of her parents. This is not exclusively a Thai thing but very common in Asian countries. The problem with many westerners in Thailand is that their social circle within Thailand is often very small and so they think every woman is a sex worker.
It might take more work, but I think you are better off trying your luck dating nurses, teachers, girls with a government job etc basically girls with any sort of profession that is not part of the tourist scene. I think your chances of success would improve.
Thank you for your comment Peter. This video is not biographical. It’s not about me, but I agree with your comments although I have to stress I have had friends who have dated girls in all these professions and almost all the relationships haven’t worked. I have also had friends that have married our girls and been successful.
@@LePubPattaya yes agree in the end it comes down to the individual girl. I am a little biased having been married to a thai nurse for the past seven years. We live part time in Australia and Thailand. I sponsor her with a partner visa so she can work in Australia too. We will be sure to visit LePub when we are back there in January. Cheers
I’ve seen the odd time where these things work out if the guy is permanently based in Thailand and the woman wants a life change and isn’t a true wrong un in some way. Generally a bad idea but who knows right? Guys just need to make sure they don’t get fleeced like it’s shearing time.
Thank you. I don’t open the criticize of people on this channel because my content is simply my opinion, but I really do get fed up with a negativity about Thai girls and relationship sometimes. Most if not all of these people that criticize have usually experience the same.
Well said egg. My travel buddy who has been probably over 30 times to Pattaya always says, "if you know you are geting turned over and having fun...you are not getting turned over"
Of course ladies just looking for their security.Just got to be careful of your bank balance and watch your back especially in Pattaya.Proberbly have to move to her family in Isaan if you can stand the family and quiet county life.Of course if you go back home you will have to sponsor them to keep them.Find lady more serious and affordable in the Philippines again if you can live in the provinces.
@@matthewharris3993 I went through the same process, 13 years married after meeting each other in 2007 in Phuket. Now she is a uk citizen and she earns the money
@@LePubPattaya I wonder if it's a different breed of women now compared to 15 years ago. Women are more technically switched on and knows how to make money more easily...
I like the way you are not afraid to challenge widely held views in Pattaya. I have found the same old attitudes of many guys about women, money, love and life in general to be rather in Pattaya. Many will get quite upset if you challenge their opinions.
Mmmm my Thai wife is different 😮. Well no different when it comes to nagging, but knowing a few gents with Thai wife's in the UK, I don't know many that end in divorce but I have heard some stories and they revolve around drink, gambling and other men. At the same time, Thai men and women have a high divorce rate and I know my wife's son is dating a Thai girl and I know for a fact they are not suitable together and we are discouraging them from getting married..
I been going to Pattaya for 30 years and made a lot of friends with bar girls. There are a lot bad ones who just want to use you. But there are a lot of good ones. Remember if you and the girl seem to get on well and have a connection. It might work out well long term. I also notice that bar girls, maybe 10 years ago, were just career bar girls. But there seems to be a lot more now, who are well educated and been in normal jobs before. But the salary is so low, so they are forced to try working in a bar, to earn more money. These ones tend to be the ones, that you could click with and develop a relationship. Don't always believe the saying, ' You can't take the bar out of the bar girl!
The only ones I believe that their girlfriend is different are the guys who have lost their heart (and usually their money) to a Thai woman who was born a boy...
I know what you mean it can happen but if you're going to have the same girl why not play the game enjoy yourself treat her and have a great time or go to Amsterdam
**Great video Phil** I couldn't agree with You more on this subject. It is "up to you" as they say in Thailand. It is up to the guy to determine if his girl is different. Hey...what is that place you're walking around? I don't recognize it.
@@LePubPattaya "This is completely a made up character." You said it yourself. Give us an example with a home town and a name. We can take your statement seriously. Anyway, that is my judgement and not speculation. Have a nice day.
@@LePubPattaya No you are wrong. Let the readers arrive at their own conclusions. Problem is some expats have been around so long, their opinion is gospel. I'm sure all your fans will give you a like. I recieved one and it was not shown. This might be a new experience for you. But I first came to Thailand in 1988. I think I know what happens here. Really I mean you no ill will. 😉
@@PeterBrenyou are absolutely right. It’s opinion. My whole channel is my opinion. I’m just following your argument and your opinion is that because you’ve been here since 1988 your opinion is worth more than mine. I never set myself up as an expert on anything, never. I’m wrong sometimes, but I took exception to your “don’t waste your breath “ comment. Just don’t bother commenting if that’s all you have Peter. Just go watch someone else. Cheers. Phil
