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My Hero Academia Author HATED for Endeavor FIASCO 

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My Hero Academia's author Horikoshi has been at the center of some online drama recently after people read the latest chapter of MHA with Endeavor saving the day in his fight against High End. People didn't like that Endeavor (who had a history of being terrible to his family) was portrayed in a good light. So a small group of people decided to send some hate towards the author of MHA. Some people think Endeavor should be allowed to be redeemed while others think not. What do you think?
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@Tokyosaurus
@Tokyosaurus 6 лет назад
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@lilhaloturtle
@lilhaloturtle 6 лет назад
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@tezsneed1274
@tezsneed1274 6 лет назад
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@Wez_art2
@Wez_art2 6 лет назад
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@clairenime
@clairenime 6 лет назад
Tokyosaurus Oh! I'm on that Amino! We're Almost reaching 100,000 members! #PLUSULTRAforHorikoshi
@集中豪雨
@集中豪雨 6 лет назад
You're late Tokyosaurus
@JustinY.
@JustinY. 6 лет назад
Let the dude do what he wants, it's his manga anyway.
@clairenime
@clairenime 6 лет назад
Justin Y. Your late.
@keanohsu6896
@keanohsu6896 6 лет назад
Hey dude
@Gio-ym4uj
@Gio-ym4uj 6 лет назад
Justin Y. How are you able to do this? Stop dude, get help, talk to someone.
@SweetCake8
@SweetCake8 6 лет назад
Justin Y. Exactly my man
@garchompelago
@garchompelago 6 лет назад
Justin Y. Notice me senpai.
@veridian4433
@veridian4433 6 лет назад
Threatening an author over a fictional guy that just saved the day using some dope fire techniques _Sounds logical_
@Whorlando
@Whorlando 6 лет назад
Hopefully horikoshi will get more love than hate thrown his way
@Foogi9000
@Foogi9000 6 лет назад
Mha fans can be Autistic
@einzweichschein
@einzweichschein 6 лет назад
foogi A troll spotted. Have you had share of happiness this day?
@Foogi9000
@Foogi9000 6 лет назад
Nope I've been dead inside for years
@ReptarTheUgly
@ReptarTheUgly 6 лет назад
The thing is they aren’t fans, they’re hateful fucking SJWs, feminist, snowflakes. Just ignore them. They don’t fucking buy the manga or support him.
@NagaYamiyo
@NagaYamiyo 6 лет назад
As a Hero I've respected Endeavor, but as a father & husband he digusted me... But I am glad that with the whole becoming #1 he's started to wake up and realize the wrong he has done and how he wants to fix things anyway he can. Maybe he can never redeem himself but the fact that he's realized the wrong and wants to at least try to repair and change, shows a definite more human side of him.
@mactony4
@mactony4 6 лет назад
Its just like Bill Cosby the actor on TV and the man were world apart, aside for him redeeming himself.
@derekwoods6330
@derekwoods6330 6 лет назад
Nagato Yamiyo what do you mean by hero im curious
@justinbryant2361
@justinbryant2361 6 лет назад
Sometimes when you're at the top you can look down and see the carnage you left behind. Some people the Get to the top don't care about the people that they hurt along the way. Others see the devastation, pain, and misery that they cause and want to stop others from doing the same thing they have done
@namegoeshere5220
@namegoeshere5220 6 лет назад
Nagato Yamiyo Respecting the art but not the artist? How logical and mature of you. "Now let me type a 20 paragraph essay on why you're wrong and I promise only half will be violent insults directed at you." Someone on Tumblr, probably.
@NagaYamiyo
@NagaYamiyo 6 лет назад
Derek Woods I mean by his job being a Hero. During the Stain/Nomue incident he went in immediately and he temporarily teamed up with Torino and without a second though charged into the rest of the enemies without hesitation and quick thinking of how to counteract the regeneration, when that one lady was taken by the one flying Nomue he immediately gave chase and saved her. When it comes to how he does his job you can't help but respect him. At least that's my view...
@BakaryD
@BakaryD 6 лет назад
These people make anime fans look bad
@GenericNameeee
@GenericNameeee 6 лет назад
The Boss Manga fans, but yeah anime fans aswell!
@bigboss6145
@bigboss6145 6 лет назад
Well there are cancers in every community.
@joel_joa
@joel_joa 6 лет назад
Again
@mars8799
@mars8799 6 лет назад
The Boss this isn’t the first time this happened lmao
@xlllNIGHTMARElllx
@xlllNIGHTMARElllx 6 лет назад
It's fucking fiction, why are people caring about something that is written and drummed up by an individual. It's like me getting upset about a popular fan fict author making +18 sex scenes about MCU Spiderman+ Shuri (this is actually a thing my gf was reading it) and that's just as, if not more distrubing cause their underaged kids.
@buggy5258
@buggy5258 6 лет назад
People who are hating Endeavor's development are pretty much saying a person can't change for the better. It's like saying a drug addict will always be just that and that they shouldn't even try to change.
@BlackLynx4607a
@BlackLynx4607a 6 лет назад
I agree with you, except for the fact that being a drug addict isn't AT ALL comparable with directly abusing your family physically and psychologically.
@buggy5258
@buggy5258 6 лет назад
BlackLynx4607a Yeah it was the first thing to pop up.
@bushidorox
@bushidorox 6 лет назад
Because that's exactly what these people believe. They don't want regret or redemption; all they want is to tear down what they hate.
@Yal_Rathol
@Yal_Rathol 6 лет назад
the irony being that believing that makes those people nigh identical to stain, because he also believes that brutal punishment is the only solution to a flawed person and that people cannot change.
@bushidorox
@bushidorox 6 лет назад
Wouldn't surprise me if these people actually idolize that guy.
@jonathan7skyfire
@jonathan7skyfire 6 лет назад
Why do people gotta hate the author I love the character development
@Yal_Rathol
@Yal_Rathol 6 лет назад
jonathan Tavira- Alcaraz i'm gonna be honest, endeavor's arc makes me really uncomfortable, which is a sign of great writing because it means it's triggering conflicting emotions in me.
@gamingwithkingmoon9276
@gamingwithkingmoon9276 6 лет назад
just watch the fucking manga and shut up hatering like some bitch nothing wrong with the manga Yal Rathol
@gamingwithkingmoon9276
@gamingwithkingmoon9276 6 лет назад
he might not continue my hero academia because of u guy hateing
@gamingwithkingmoon9276
@gamingwithkingmoon9276 6 лет назад
nevermind yal rathol
@MOZZQUESTVANYALI
@MOZZQUESTVANYALI 6 лет назад
If anything the fact he can make people root for endeavor should be celebrated rather than hated.
@shekuwow
@shekuwow 6 лет назад
Sometimes I hate this fandom. Like this dude puts so much effort into this story and people are so quick to shoot him in the foot with insults if they don't get what they want. It's disgusting. He guy puts in so much work.
@HELLO_KORO
@HELLO_KORO 6 лет назад
Fr the shows great but the fanbase is toxic
@meerkatphantom5499
@meerkatphantom5499 6 лет назад
You don't know how much tocicity this community has. People who hate Mineta get so triggered when you say his your favorite character or suggest he should get his own arc
@GregCaldwellPlays
@GregCaldwellPlays 6 лет назад
It’s every fandom of anything
@shekuwow
@shekuwow 6 лет назад
MeerKat Phantom I would *love* to see Mineta have his own arc. Yeah he's the classic anime perv character but he still an integral support character and he fucking hilarious
@shekuwow
@shekuwow 6 лет назад
Greg Caldwell That's true.
@kevinvargas274
@kevinvargas274 6 лет назад
Honestly the manga is not near the end, the author can do what he wants. Endeavor still has time to change *BUT IS HE GONNA?*
@saruidol
@saruidol 6 лет назад
Endeavor can change alot of things...... *BUT CAN HE DO THIS?!*
@alphaxfang
@alphaxfang 6 лет назад
endeavor already change when he ask all might "what is symbol of peace?" his old self will be too prideful to ask a help/favor/guidance from all might...
@saruidol
@saruidol 6 лет назад
*Its a joke bruh* -_-
@bigtram5312
@bigtram5312 6 лет назад
Kevin Vargas nice pewds reference
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
Kevin Vargas Mha is pure garbage
@Mambo-Jambo
@Mambo-Jambo 6 лет назад
Oh, come on! Bakugou told Deku to kill himself and bullied him for ears, but everybody's fine with him becoming a hero.
@nocturnecz3965
@nocturnecz3965 6 лет назад
Not everyone, there's plenty of fans who hate his guts. The characters in UA don't know about that, so of course they're fine with it (he got in after all, that couldn't have been easy), and his previous school was a toxic enviroment that only saw how powerful his quirk is, so of course they're fine with it too. It wasn't just Bakugou who bullied Izuku there, you know. His parents themselves admitted that they've not been the best parents, letting him grow up the way he did, but they're happy with how much UA helped him, so they're not complaining either. That's the thing though, UA doesn't tolerate Bakugou's shit and is generally a much better enviroment, with people there being actually his equals and not just "extras" (his words). He's gradually changing because of it, and it's very visible. The person who told Izuku to kill himself wouldn't have tried to lift Kirishima's mood after he felt guilty for saving him, he would have never even attempted to tell Kirishima how great his quirk actually is when he's feeling depressed about it, and he would have never ever accepted his help in the Bakugou retrieval arc. It's just Kirishima, just one person, but it's still better than no one. His character development was also seen very clearly in the remedial course arc, with him recognising that the same thing happening to the brats is the same thing that happened to him. He's the one that told the rest of the course-takers how the kids are feeling and the way they should try to help them, because he knows that that's how people should have helped him. He's even able to give the kids actual advice based on his character growth, and that's just amazing considering who he is. PS: Wow, I didn't expect to write so much. Oops. I just love Bakugou's character development okay? Horikoshi handled him beautifully and I applaud him for it. He's changed so much, and it has been done so well, that I don't like people saying he's still the bully he started as. He's not. Just because he didn't get one big redemption arc like most anime assholes doesn't mean he hasn't changed. He just changed like an actual person would, slowly, over the course of the entire series. (I'm not saying I like Bakugou, he's still an ass, but he's a much smaller ass than he was at the beginning and I won't tolerate people who just ignore his entire growth like it hasn't happened at all.)
@julianadams3710
@julianadams3710 6 лет назад
I think bakugos disgusting and doesn’t deserve to be a hero but alright
@AlexStarkiller1
@AlexStarkiller1 6 лет назад
He's also a child who has been getting better since like day 2 of high school, whereas Endeavor is a grown man who needed to get everything he ever wanted before reflecting on his actions.
@JasonGodwin69
@JasonGodwin69 6 лет назад
Mambo Jambo SJWs like that because they are bullies.
@Kekkai_
@Kekkai_ 6 лет назад
Bakugo hasn't "bullied midoriya for years". The only time bakugo is hostile around midoriya (and everyone else if you pay attention) is when it's about being a hero. He is shown to keep to himself otherwise. There is evidence he is an asshole but he isn't a bully. I don't think you know what a bully is.
@ZonoYT
@ZonoYT 6 лет назад
Why does tumblr have to ruin everything?
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
Zono Can't ruin what was already trash
@BabushkaKoi
@BabushkaKoi 6 лет назад
The Icon That’d only work if BHA was trash. It’s actually one of the better shonen stories to come around, imo.
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
Bob Kane Mha are for virgin weebs
@NotAGrabbaghoul
@NotAGrabbaghoul 6 лет назад
The Icon You say this like your not a virgin yourself
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
Audible Chocolate Better shounen stories my asshole this series is trash
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 6 лет назад
Endeavor = Emboar
@HoduAphrodite
@HoduAphrodite 6 лет назад
Just Some Guy without a Mustache I like your logic
@PS-th9jc
@PS-th9jc 6 лет назад
Emboar used Endeavor! It's super effective!
@derekjohnson9891
@derekjohnson9891 6 лет назад
Still love you mustache senpia!
@joshuamanjarrez6321
@joshuamanjarrez6321 6 лет назад
PS 1998 Endeavor is actually a special move
@PS-th9jc
@PS-th9jc 6 лет назад
Joshua Manjarrez Endeavor is physical actually.
@sama69
@sama69 6 лет назад
Of course it was Tumblr
@YourBuddyTom01
@YourBuddyTom01 6 лет назад
zaria henry he’s trying to redeem himself and he hates what he has done, it still doesn’t excuse what he has done and it doesn’t excuse the ‘fans’ threatening the author to die
@aronestone100
@aronestone100 6 лет назад
And twitter.
@jehjeh7
@jehjeh7 4 года назад
Sama always tumblr
@oikawaoijosukeoilinc.1876
@oikawaoijosukeoilinc.1876 3 года назад
Indeed
@gameboyblue2515
@gameboyblue2515 6 лет назад
People are mad that some actual realism is being put into the story
@sburbtube6766
@sburbtube6766 6 лет назад
pretty sure in the real world children dont forgive their abusive parents after they became the #1 in their job
@gameboyblue2515
@gameboyblue2515 6 лет назад
sburb tube it's true that a lot of fathers are not good people. Did he redeem himself, no. But he can still be forgiven and accepted. It's good to see
@josephmaseko4143
@josephmaseko4143 6 лет назад
sburb tube he's not been forgiven buddy.
@gameboyblue2515
@gameboyblue2515 6 лет назад
Joseph Maseko I said he can be, this is the start of the process bud
@josephmaseko4143
@josephmaseko4143 6 лет назад
gameboy blue replying to the other guy my friend.
@ChamberK-1
@ChamberK-1 6 лет назад
Horikoshi doesn’t deserve the hate he gets. The only people hating him are over sensitive idiots on tumblr and Twitter anyway, but he still doesn’t deserve it. He’s a great writer.
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
Zeco117 Your right but he does deserve hate for creating such an awful manga
@xato-1
@xato-1 6 лет назад
The Icon bait
@vaginalarthritis1753
@vaginalarthritis1753 6 лет назад
I will agree he doesn't deserve death threats but great writer is pushing it.
@briguy7044
@briguy7044 6 лет назад
The Icon i bet your one of those people that just likes to crap on everyones interests I personally like MHA and I think it is an awesome manga and anime. Dont be jealous because someone can write a better anime or manga that you ever could
@midhatsyed1034
@midhatsyed1034 6 лет назад
Poor Horikoshi :( I hope somewhere in the fandom of MHA supports him.
@chrisludwig4729
@chrisludwig4729 6 лет назад
kids need to grow up. A deeply flawed character can still have heroic features. Doesn't mean you have to forgive him. Children of messed up parents can still have some positive feelings towards them. Sorry boys and girls, the world isn't so simple.
@redwing1766
@redwing1766 3 года назад
Ye the point of his character is that he can’t be the number one hero because of how flawed his family life.
@jameljointss
@jameljointss 6 лет назад
No one should ever come at an author like this
@zyguy8009
@zyguy8009 6 лет назад
So people don't like good writing...?
@SkaryMisfit
@SkaryMisfit 6 лет назад
ZyGuy I think the hate is completely underserved but I do think the endeavor situation is mishandled. The chapter framed his abuse as a good thing because he was the only one who was trying his "best". And it's pretty ick especially with recent events going on in Hollywood.
@imcurious5898
@imcurious5898 6 лет назад
NorthTwo The chapter didn't frame what he did as a good thing. It just provided a reason why he did the things he did.
@SkaryMisfit
@SkaryMisfit 6 лет назад
I'm Curious Wrong. We already knew about his motivations a while back. Also here's the exact transcript: "That's why he gave up so quickly and basically went insane...abandoning kids he doesn't care for...and driving the mom to the breaking point. Give up and run you...he never gave up!!" You can't read that with intercontexuality and see it as anything but a framing device for sympathy and redemption
@SkaryMisfit
@SkaryMisfit 6 лет назад
I'm Curious also I'm using the official Viz translation for this which is looked over and checked with the Jump editors themselves
@ardaxus
@ardaxus 6 лет назад
Yea they like DBZ
@hellatze
@hellatze 6 лет назад
2 option. 1. Drop the manga 2. Keep read No need to sent threat
@venor2612
@venor2612 6 лет назад
^
@shpambypamby3113
@shpambypamby3113 5 лет назад
Damn, this is actually profound as hell
@cvox607
@cvox607 6 лет назад
i remember the days when characters that killed hundreds and sometimes billions would get redeemed and become fan favorites without any drama......and they don't even face consequences for their past and the people they hurt forgive them instantly........i guess abuse is worse than genocide lol
@PrinceRevolver
@PrinceRevolver 6 лет назад
C Vox Frieza comes to mind.
@manuelcabeza5527
@manuelcabeza5527 6 лет назад
Prince Revolver Frieza doesn’t count he still evil but naruto is most what come in mind
@cvox607
@cvox607 6 лет назад
freiza to some extent , vegeta , sasuke , scar , pain , obito the list goes on
@PrinceRevolver
@PrinceRevolver 6 лет назад
Manuel Cabeza Frieza is evil. He still redeemed himself. Exactly why Beerus allowed him to come back to life.
@HornyAndDepressed
@HornyAndDepressed 6 лет назад
Vegeta
@kynshii
@kynshii 6 лет назад
Endeavor is a pretty bomb character but to threaten someone because your show isn't on your level of standards shows how pathetic people are. They won't do it in one's face but their keyboard warrior status is God level
@BuChidot
@BuChidot 6 лет назад
Dragonball fans be like 😂
@kynshii
@kynshii 6 лет назад
ChiWesley Cooley lol
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
Tony Brown Mha and dbs are pure trash
@lisabarnes924
@lisabarnes924 6 лет назад
Damn my keyboard warrior status is novice. I need to grind for more levels... ._.
@kynshii
@kynshii 6 лет назад
Lisa Barnes lol hey if you want to be God level then you gotta send death threats and troll ppl hardcore 24/7
@portalmanHUN
@portalmanHUN 6 лет назад
Endeavor is too 3 dimensional and complex for the shonen baby crowd.
@sburbtube6766
@sburbtube6766 6 лет назад
the problem isnt that he is complex, but that his family could forgive him too easy...
@Addvant
@Addvant 6 лет назад
sburb tube no one has forgiven him yet.
@novelgiani
@novelgiani 6 лет назад
sburb tube Not wanting someone to die is forgiving them? What fucked up logic is this?
@mrfirepantsftw6529
@mrfirepantsftw6529 6 лет назад
Dami Fash I’m starting to think half of the MHA fan base has autism by saying his family already forgiven him, like not wanting your dad to die = forgiven 🤔🤔🤔
@beepist5000
@beepist5000 6 лет назад
M L 3 dimensional charater doesnt equal good charater or good writing.
@ithinkwerebrothers
@ithinkwerebrothers 6 лет назад
I actually loved the new chapter I mean endeavor is trying to be a better person so I was glad to see his fight against high end
@carlfletcherjunior9076
@carlfletcherjunior9076 6 лет назад
i think we're brothers ikr he even said he wanted to make his son proud
@lostcapital2591
@lostcapital2591 6 лет назад
I can’t find it anywhere, where did you read it ?
@doctorbadtimesphdinmemes2671
@doctorbadtimesphdinmemes2671 6 лет назад
LOST Capital www1.readheroacademia.com/manga/boku-no-hero-academia-chapter-190/
@Rydigion
@Rydigion 6 лет назад
until dabi came in, DAMN
@yaboi2130
@yaboi2130 6 лет назад
yabu 72 yeah, shit is about to go down, i cant even imagine what horikoshi is going to do with dabi in the next chapter, but hopefully he turns out to be a todoroki, that would be insane
@cvox607
@cvox607 6 лет назад
wow........to think some 12 yo girls in tumblr screaming in their tags will become this big
@carlfletcherjunior9076
@carlfletcherjunior9076 6 лет назад
Tbh
@nanana6559
@nanana6559 6 лет назад
I hope that Horikoshi doesn't really take this to heart. If he actually become despressed again and contemplates suicide, that could be a pretty serious crime. These "fans" should seriously stop acting like a 5 year old kid and just let Horikoshi do whatever he wants. PLUS ULTRA FOR HORIKOSHI!
@GuilhermeR979
@GuilhermeR979 6 лет назад
Nadia Nuramelia z
@matnx7393
@matnx7393 5 лет назад
Yeah! Horikoshi San Go! PLUS ULTRA!
@hyena234thekids7
@hyena234thekids7 3 года назад
PLUS ULTRA!😁
@traplover6357
@traplover6357 6 лет назад
He's a Hero for a reason. Just with a same dark past.
@moiztariq7012
@moiztariq7012 6 лет назад
Traplover7 just a fun fact
@moiztariq7012
@moiztariq7012 6 лет назад
Traplover7 replace all of dabi's wounds with flames amd see what it makes
@millyrock935
@millyrock935 6 лет назад
where does it say he raped her?????
@moiztariq7012
@moiztariq7012 6 лет назад
yo what if the huge mistake shotos siblings were talking was endeavour burning dabi
@maxxvii2037
@maxxvii2037 6 лет назад
Traplover7 Being a Hero is just a job in this universe
@tyronehasanopiniondealwith3703
He's has one of the coolest character design in BNHA Imo!
@fkdonaldtrump7194
@fkdonaldtrump7194 6 лет назад
I agree
@arthoormoorgen9492
@arthoormoorgen9492 6 лет назад
Idk why other (mostly) characters designed not very cool with a weird quirk IMO.. but I like midoriya & endeavor character design. One of the best anime today
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
tyrone has an opinion deal with it His design is trash just like the wannabe Japanese hulk all might
@genericname9994
@genericname9994 6 лет назад
The Icon Well it is your opinion....even though it's wrong.
@michaeleanthonyjr
@michaeleanthonyjr 6 лет назад
The Icon Care to back up your opinion with reasons? Or are you just hating because people like something that you don't?
@thearisen7301
@thearisen7301 6 лет назад
That sounds like good character development to me. It makes me like him actually. To have a guy that's essentially a villain see the errors of his ways and try to fix them? Yeah that's good stuff.
@mdudegamer
@mdudegamer 6 лет назад
Exactly. Plus, it makes more sense than some other characters who had changes of heart in fiction- Endeavor did it all because he didn't think he'd ever be the number one hero, and once he did get that position he had to look back at what he'd done without the excuse of "well it'll all be worth it once my kid's the number one hero" so he decided he needed to try and make things right.
@Commanche123
@Commanche123 6 лет назад
There's development sure, but looking back on all the damage and actions Endeavor has done is nigh irreparable. He's broken his family's relationship with him that it's not even a family to begin with. He can spout all he wants on how he'll magically "atone" the physical and major mental damage to his family all the while act all calm and collected. But how he'll atone it is just gonna be a once in a blue moon progress that he'll have to take it to his grave. I've known a lot of friends and acquinatances that had situations like Enji and none of them have been forgiven or ever will tbh. Heck, one is already 10 feet under and was never forgiven. Not to say every domestic abuser are irredeemable, just very arduous to mend the relationship bridges.
@willrogers3793
@willrogers3793 6 лет назад
Always been a fan of a well-executed redemption subplot. Darth Vader and Prince Zuko are 2 of my favorite examples, and their redemption arcs (or in Vader’s case, redemption moment) are a big part of why I love them as characters. If MHA’s author can pull off something similar with a character we’ve all been conditioned to loathe like Endeavor, then he deserves some serious kudos.
@jjilatt123
@jjilatt123 5 лет назад
United Steaks Endeavor's well aware of that, which is why he will never ask for forgiveness. One of the first things he wonders when he becomes the no. 1 hero and starts contemplating what the symbol of peace really is, is if he's even worthy of calling himself a hero after what he did to Rei (his wife). He makes small gestures to try and make up, like leaving Rei her favorite flowers (which he remembered from her telling him once) at her hospital and leaving peacefully when her doctor told him it wouldn't be a good idea for them to meet, but he knows that what he did is inexcusable and all he can really do is move forward and try to atone the best he can. Endeavor since becoming the number one hero has become one of the most interesting characters in the series. His long, long path to redemption is one that could turn out ti be very interesting.
@Tokyosaurus
@Tokyosaurus 6 лет назад
Do you want to see Endeavor redeemed?
@tsukiyo4511
@tsukiyo4511 6 лет назад
Tokyosaurus yes that way the hatred can stop
@shadowhunter-mi5su
@shadowhunter-mi5su 6 лет назад
Tokyosaurus I do want. Though this is not really the way I wish it, but I am satisfied with this. I am just wondering about the eventual outcome between the relationship with his wife.
@PrinceRevolver
@PrinceRevolver 6 лет назад
Tokyosaurus Yes. People legitimately act as if no anime character has been redeemed, lol.
@clairenime
@clairenime 6 лет назад
Tokyosaurus Yeah Thus hate is stupid
@carlfletcherjunior9076
@carlfletcherjunior9076 6 лет назад
Yes
@unknownimpulse1315
@unknownimpulse1315 6 лет назад
Sasuke,vegeta and Itachi were all literall genociders. They make Endeavor look like a saint. If they can somehow be forgiven then i'm pretty sure Endeavor can as well.
@Manganization
@Manganization 6 лет назад
+reality / , zero. You can argue that he killed Itachi and Orochimaru, but Orochimaru pretty much was absorbed and Itachi more or less killed himself. Even Naruto has zero kills. Sasuke has only ever killed Manda, and Boruto has more kills than Naruto and Sasuke combined, by killing Momoshiki.
@Milo-ge6bx
@Milo-ge6bx 6 лет назад
Unknown impulse 13 now we throwing shade at itachi I bet u didn't even read/watch his storyline or u wouldn't have compared him to endeavor
@paulosalles9206
@paulosalles9206 6 лет назад
Myron Pearson Itachi killed his entire clan minus his younger brother, reason doesn't matter he still did it. It is not the intent behind the action but the action itself that is judged.
@kharyan2
@kharyan2 6 лет назад
Eunro what? Bro sasuke has hella bodies. He killed all those guards at the 5 kage summit
@JayJay-mk9xg
@JayJay-mk9xg 6 лет назад
he killed danzo tried to kill bee killed itachi tried to kill juubi and the 9 bijuus inside of him and tried to kill all of team 7 and all shinobi nations.
@chaolayluu
@chaolayluu 6 лет назад
All these people hating on endeavor are probably newer anime fans who arent used to complex characters. Good anime usually isnt black and white and is generally grey and that's what I love about it. When you think of morality as this definite thing where some people are solely good and some solely bad, you lock yourself into such a closeminded and hypocritical mindset
@sburbtube6766
@sburbtube6766 6 лет назад
THE PROBLEM ISNT ENDEAVORS CHARACTER ARC, but his family probably easily forgiving him
@chaolayluu
@chaolayluu 6 лет назад
sburb tube I'm pretty sure his family didnt forgive him, theres a difference between wanting him to not die in battle vs forgiving him for his past deeds. It could happen in the future but I doubt that's what's going on right now
@killuazoldyck1876
@killuazoldyck1876 6 лет назад
Charlie Liu Lol we’ve all watched many anime what endeavor has done is unforgivable PERIOD
@Rr4wrRr
@Rr4wrRr 6 лет назад
sburb tube No one in his family has forgiven him. Natsuo clearly hasn’t forgiven him. The mother isn’t going to burden herself with the things Endeavor has done to make it easier on herself. Shoto respects Endeavor as a hero, not as a father. Y’all whores needs understand that. Shoto has yet to even been shown forgiving his father. He just prayed (at least it looked like praying) that Endeavor would survived because keep in mind, that he is still his father.
@chaolayluu
@chaolayluu 6 лет назад
pink diamond if you've watched alot of anime, then you should realize that the conclusion from one chapter or one episode is not the actual conclusion. Whether you like endeavor or not, dont base your assumption that one chapter is all it takes for his family to forgive him. I'm tired of all these people hating because of the outcomes of one chapter ffs. Good stories take awhile to get good resolutions so calm your tits. If this is bad for you dont try tokyo ghoul or berserk
@HeliosThor64
@HeliosThor64 6 лет назад
The only people hating on him are the SJWs and Tumblr warriors that clearly don't understand what the hell is even going on in the current arc. Horikoshi is not trying to redeem Endeavor. He's trying to make the reader understand that, despite his flaws, Endeavor is someone that's trying to change for the better. He's trying his best to become both a better hero and a better person.
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
HeliosVenomMage64 SJWs are cancer just like the mha series and manga
@realcyrox5779
@realcyrox5779 6 лет назад
The Icon you are cancer, because you are shit-talking the series under every single comment i see. Get a life!
@TheKungas
@TheKungas 6 лет назад
lol, there always have to be the scary boogeyman for you people.
@ssugar_52
@ssugar_52 6 лет назад
"People disagree with my views so they must be an SJW" It depends on how the arc ends... if all is forgiven suddenly because he's "trying" then the hate is probably right (although i dont condone directly attackIng the author). Being the number 1 hero now shouldnt mean Endeavor can now be a good person. he ruined his family because of his selfishness of wanting the best hero family. getting what he wanted doesnt mean he can just come back to redeem himself now. This arc may just reflect the authors potential negative ideals in the end...
@HeliosThor64
@HeliosThor64 6 лет назад
+KPPQ Except none is forgiven, so idk what you are talking about. It's like you didn't read a single thing I said. Endeavor is in a position where he needs to improve as both a hero and person, and that's exactly what he's doing. Like I said, he's made mistakes. That doesn't mean he can't improve from them. That's what Horikoshi is trying to get across, yet somehow, people (mainly the idiots on Tumblr) think he's trying to redeem him, hence the backlash.
@shahaansalman3286
@shahaansalman3286 6 лет назад
I have always wanted Endeavor to end up redeeming himself, it makes for a greatly realistic character arc of a man who has committed many wrong doings and he has slowly begun to realize that he must fix them. Honestly I find this moment to be one of my top 5 Hero aca moments.
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
shahaan salman Emboar is a trash character just like mha
@FBI_Metal_Slime
@FBI_Metal_Slime 6 лет назад
The Icon bait
@cvox607
@cvox607 6 лет назад
DoomsdayKing0307 no....he's just trying to make himself feel better lol you'll find him praising the hell out of boruto....and bashing mha in every vid related to them why???........well you can put 2 and 2 together
@shahaansalman3286
@shahaansalman3286 6 лет назад
DoomsdayKing0307 I don't know what your talking about, but Boruto has gotten far better. Not to mention the manga which is actually pretty great rn.
@hortensia668
@hortensia668 5 лет назад
Endeavor is litteraly one of the best written character in mha, the mha fandom is so toxic
@KatsuImagitian
@KatsuImagitian 6 лет назад
I mean sure Endeavors a piece of shit who honestly did a unforgivable act like domestic abuse (unintentional or intentional I don't remember exactly). But c'mon people it's no new thing when characters like Endeavor get development or "redeemed". Horikoshi is writing a story a narrative this is still fiction, let the man do his thing.
@RabidMouser
@RabidMouser 6 лет назад
Katsu Imagitian it’s most likely the sjws getting mad over this. They don’t believe that people can be redeemed and once they label you as a villain (for any reason) you’re basically less than a human to them
@KatsuImagitian
@KatsuImagitian 6 лет назад
John Ryan Yeah that's the thing. We're supposed to hate him because we know from how Todoroki described his past but when I say unforgivable personally I'm a little confused as I don't remember correctly whether Endeavor actually beat his wife and drove her to her unstable mental state which would be unforgivable or it was something else that drove her crazy?
@ridwana4037
@ridwana4037 6 лет назад
John Ryan But he did triggered that event to some degree. But that doesn't mean people can't change. Endeavor has changed after the events on the story (school tournament, All might's retirement). People can't change in a second. It takes progress. So for those people who can't accept that people change, they can go fuck themselves.
@ridwana4037
@ridwana4037 6 лет назад
Katsu Imagitian He slapped her because she told him to take it easy with shoto. But on the manga, he's shown to care for her to some degree. Like with the flower vase.
@KatsuImagitian
@KatsuImagitian 6 лет назад
Ridwan A Thank you.
@ArynBacklogDragon
@ArynBacklogDragon 6 лет назад
The people hating Endeavor's redemption and sending Horikoshi threats thinking that horrible people can't change are because they themselves are horrible people who don't want to change.
@nonsense-nonsense1
@nonsense-nonsense1 6 лет назад
I think it's more along the lines of Endeavor being excused for his actions just because he became a good person. People have a right to not forgive if they were affected by the abuser.
@pedroj3432
@pedroj3432 6 лет назад
WonderInNonsense but he was never excused of his actions just because hes trying to redeem himself or because he saved the day lol You people are mixing shit up. Plus just because they dont like the character development of ONE character, they have a right to make death threats etc to the author? That is what shouldnt be taken lightly and shouldnt be excused because its happening in real life and not in fucking ficticious drawings. I would sew anyones ass for threatening my life and would have no remorse about it. Its not something a normal person does
@pedroj3432
@pedroj3432 6 лет назад
OttoeCamn yep, exactly! Couldnt have said it better myself
@TheGATG0bBlin
@TheGATG0bBlin 6 лет назад
OttoeCamn Bro wtf it’s not even that deep they just think Endeavors a rapist wife and child beater and it was all over nothing really lol my hero academia fans are hella sensitive
@ArynBacklogDragon
@ArynBacklogDragon 6 лет назад
Jaden Stewart here's the thing: if you think endeavor shouldn't be redeemed and don't like what Horikoshi is doing that's one thing. But people sending ACTUAL DEATH THREATS OVER A FICTIONAL CHARACTER are the actual horrible people.
@tasogarerubica
@tasogarerubica 6 лет назад
So I'm wondering how many people caught the subtle hint on chapter 188 page 8. Where Endeavor's thought of his problem with overusing his quirk leading to lowering his motor functions, as his past memories past by. What I've taken from that scene was that he initially sought after his wife, not just to "create" his master piece offspring, but find someone who would allow him to cool off from his quirk. Help him to achieve his goals to verge that gap, climb the unscalable summit. This is when the flash back during the All for One, On for All he had comes in. His "endeavor" left futile leading toward a wrong turn at the bend. The atrocities he's caused for the his own despair cannot be a valid excuse, and man it really was a loss in humanity to a point. His eyes during his lunacy is a great example of it, Shoto had them too. But after seeing All Might's true form, witnessing that summit crumble before him. He attained it... That unscalable summit served to him through a silver plater after All Might's retirement. The frustrations he felt achieving his goals, not through his own efforts initiated the change within him. When he had the chance to talk to All Might, his eyes were far different from the ones of malice. This is where and why Hawks came in. Horikoshi needed a character who saw the back of the number two and effort he's put in. Be the one to give the credit to Endeavor's efforts. All Might can't fill that role, and Hawks really got the personality to fir that role. This whole arc isn't to redeem Endeavor for the disgusting fucked up shit he's done, it's to showcase his character arc and growth. To bring this character to not fill the role of the symbol of peace, but a symbol of endeavoring through the times of the loss of that symbol of peace. Well it really depends on how Horikoshi plans to play out how Dabi fits into all of this. But yeah, have no idea how to wrap this rant out... Used to hate Endeavor, but he's grown on me. The depth Horikoshi has given him is a big part. Also sorry bout using endeavor so often, that words is him and what he stands for.
@jaromirverwer9912
@jaromirverwer9912 6 лет назад
hyo shimizu Thanks. People seem to read over this..
@tasogarerubica
@tasogarerubica 6 лет назад
Jaromir Verwer Maybe it's from the past destain they've acquired on Endeavor. Bakugo was a though pill to swallow at first too, and Horikoshi managed to give him nuances that furthered his character arc. Seems he's trying the same with Endeavor too. If Horikoshi pulls this off, he might be a hell of an author.
@link732
@link732 4 года назад
Yo but the part about Endeavor being a symbol of endeavoring through the times without the symbol of peace was deep. I have always liked his hero name. Like dude how bad ass is that? Endeavor. you can read into that in so many ways.
@ggdatboi
@ggdatboi 6 лет назад
Imagine telling an author how to write his own story LMAO WUT
@jameswhite6056
@jameswhite6056 6 лет назад
GG Dat Boi youve probably done similar shit b4. There are cults that believe this is channeled
@mathieul4303
@mathieul4303 6 лет назад
Actually it kinda happen with mangakas and they are called editors. But they aren't like theses crazy people on Tumblr or Twitter
@ricocav
@ricocav 6 лет назад
Lol, Kishimoto redeemed a bunch of murderers in Naruto but redeeming an abuser crosses the line apparently...
@pedrogomezid
@pedrogomezid 6 лет назад
Rico Cavalcante BNHA is a lot more grounded in reality
@Lonewulf321
@Lonewulf321 6 лет назад
People were mad at that as well
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 6 лет назад
And Dragon ball redeemed a planet destroying mass murder.
@TreeTats
@TreeTats 6 лет назад
Rico Cavalcante When Kishimoto did it, tumblr crybabies was still wearing diapers.
@ricocav
@ricocav 6 лет назад
Nine Really? I didn't even know that. I thought everyone was just fine with it. Still, it's a fictional story with fictional characters. Why do these people get so mad about it?
@RenkoBocchi
@RenkoBocchi 6 лет назад
You know you're not a real fan if you send death threats to the author.
@pedroac95
@pedroac95 6 лет назад
Wait why vegeta, piccolo, sasuke, hisoka are loved in the animr community? They made even worst things than endeavor
@relic5752
@relic5752 6 лет назад
Pedro Marín Well, technically Piccolo Jr. whose biggest crime is killing a dog that was pouncing him iirc
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
Pedro Marín There all trash edgelords just like the weeaboos in the anime community
@little_academia
@little_academia 6 лет назад
so true...
@BetaRed
@BetaRed 6 лет назад
Relic 575 Didn’t he throw a little boy into the wilderness for a couple of months and destroy the moon?
@ardaxus
@ardaxus 6 лет назад
I think their reason is child abuse is a real problem unlike the others, still not a valid reason to attack him
@goofiestflower9405
@goofiestflower9405 6 лет назад
That awkward moment when you get mad at an author for doing his job well and developing characters
@Cheezbob325
@Cheezbob325 6 лет назад
My Hero fans: vote Bakugou, a character who bullied Midoriya to the point of telling him he should kill himself and never once showed remorse for it, as the number one character in the popularity polls. Also My Hero fans: Endeavor did terrible things to his family and isn't allowed to have a redemption arc. Obviously what Endeavor did is quite a bit worse than what Bakugou did, but I'm still sensing some real hypocrisy here.
@nocturnecz3965
@nocturnecz3965 6 лет назад
Different fans. I doubt the same people who despise Endeavor to the point of sending death threats due to his possible redemption are the same people who love Bakugou. They're probably the guys who bash Bakugou at every chance they get. Those people exist too, you know. He's not universally loved.
@randomtrashcan2704
@randomtrashcan2704 5 лет назад
@@nocturnecz3965 @Kalashni Cock some of them are dabi and toga stans though so still pretty hypocritical
@CJCroen1393
@CJCroen1393 5 лет назад
@@nocturnecz3965 That's where you're wrong. I mean yes, there are fans who hate both -like me,- but most hardcore Bakugou stans I've seen _loathe_ Endeavor with a fiery passion. In fact, the most common accusations anti-Bakudekus and anti-Bakugous get is "I BET YOU LOVE ENDEAVOR AND MINETA DON'T YOU!? YOU'RE JUST ONE BIG GIANT ENDEAVOR AND MINETA APOLOGIST!" and I'm like "...Because clearly it's impossible to hate more than one character? I hate Bakugou 'cause he's an unrepentant bully, I hate Endeavor because he's a horrible parent and I hate Mineta because he's a sexual harassment lawsuit waiting to happen".
@DarksideXL
@DarksideXL 6 лет назад
This goes to show how the MHA community is Toxic. Threatening a Author just because he gave a character some development smh 🤦‍♂️
@ardaxus
@ardaxus 6 лет назад
Darkside Gaming *NOOOOO HORIKOSHI IS SUPPORTING CHILD ABUSE WHICH IS A PROBLEM THAT IS POPULAR IRL, WE SHOULD STOP HIM FROM SPREADING CHILD ABUSE THOUGHTS ON EVERYONE* -Tumblr _Warriors_
@anthonyalire186
@anthonyalire186 6 лет назад
Every anime community has a little bit of toxicity not just MHA
@DarksideXL
@DarksideXL 6 лет назад
Some guy 707 but still MHA is Toxic and you gotta accept that
@flightlesscoffeebirdboy9655
@flightlesscoffeebirdboy9655 6 лет назад
Any community has their toxic group especially when they come from TUMBLR
@DarksideXL
@DarksideXL 6 лет назад
The Symbol Of Justice lmfao like throwing Hot boiling water in a child's face at the tender age of five isn't worse than how Endeavor treated him. He's bad too for Treating Shoto pretty harsh in training but she's just as worse.
@Kevin-irish
@Kevin-irish 6 лет назад
His personal actions should not reflect his hero duties, iron man is an alcoholic, antman was one time a wife beater, nothing is black and white with hero's, the whole point of endeavour being brought into being no.1 and being the new symbol of peace, he is slowly realising that it isn't power and ultimate power that makes a hero or a set of rules that one must follow, upon being no.1 his goal is complete and he hates how he has become it And everything he did to his family was for nothing. If he reached number one through shoto in his mind it would have been worth all the bad things but it wasn't, he had tunnel vision where anything was worth it for beating all might. But it's gone... He has to come to turns with his life and actions and ultimately find out not what makes a hero but what makes him a hero. The no.1 hero .
@Kevin-irish
@Kevin-irish 6 лет назад
Btw not condonding abuse or anything of that sort, he should be punished for them. But right now the world needs a symbol of peace in endeavour, no doubt that he is just a place holder of that title for now, no doubt the author is planning a big future for endeavour where he gives up his hero title and tries to right his many wrongs. Or he will sacrifice himself to be the hero he always wanted to be.
@henrydikes6704
@henrydikes6704 6 лет назад
CaoimhinOhOgain you hit the nail right on the head there.
@Kevin-irish
@Kevin-irish 6 лет назад
eron kun doubtful as shoto was the last child he had so many many years has passed since he last abused shoto (that we know of) and even more years since he started making children with shotos mother. So I say it's kept all under wraps by the family since he is the no.2 hero. Might come to light in future or all the pain inside endeavour will be his punishment for the series.
@y0ink934
@y0ink934 6 лет назад
CaoimhinOhOgain Tbh it deadass reminds me of Sasuke when he finally killed Itachi and didn't know what to do anymord
@bigchungus3563
@bigchungus3563 6 лет назад
but the manga and anime film Koe no Katachi is so loved. Shouya bullies Shouko physically and left an emotional impact on her (as a result of her disability), though he has redeemed himself. What people don’t understand is that facing your problems doesn’t pardon your sins. All it does is that it prevents you from making the same mistake again, and perhaps even becoming accepted as a human. Despite Endeavor’s history, keep in mind that his profession is saving others, so underneath his sometimes violent actions is someone who, at the end of the day, wants to be the best at helping and saving others. His sins will forever be a part of him and will never go away, but at least he is changing
@fablihakhan904
@fablihakhan904 6 лет назад
God Endeavor and Todoroki’s story is one of the most realistic takes on an abusive family in the entire anime. Shoto does not get over his issues overnight. He still suffers from fear and self doubt. Endeavor realizes his stupidity in neglecting his family for power when he realized he was always running after a hollow image of power. Shoto might kinda hate Endeavor but still cares a lot. The slow burn road to make peace with the family for both of them. And how Shoto sees himself in his father and can therefore be someone who could probably see his father’s side of things. S
@veridian4433
@veridian4433 6 лет назад
I just wanna see Dabi reveal himself as Endeavor's son
@cestalia
@cestalia 6 лет назад
Oh boy, same. I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER
@SpaceDetectiveTravis
@SpaceDetectiveTravis 6 лет назад
Same
@MegaKenny9
@MegaKenny9 6 лет назад
Same same. Wonder how everyone's gonna react after that seeing as though he just properly became the symbol of peace
@roguestar0313
@roguestar0313 6 лет назад
same
@SuperHurricane
@SuperHurricane 6 лет назад
Pretty sure Endeavor had one wife and kept track of his kids.
@fate2785
@fate2785 6 лет назад
Maybe a character can't be redeemed for what they did, but if a character genuinely shows regret and actual change from where they were before, and tries to become a positive force in a world, they can at least be tolerated, and perhaps respected. Maybe somewhere down the road of possible redemption, they can be accepted, using their past as a lesson to become a better person in the present and future? Things like this, especially this character, point out a sensitive issue that is controversial even in the real world - The change and regret shown by people who have done horrible things and want to change. We don't know, and I don't know, whether we can trust people like that to be better. My stance on this is tentative, but while i don't think he should be forgiven just yet because he's shown some regret for decades of abuse, I think that there is a small chance he might change for the better. Above all, the author should not be sent hate for portraying such a character, but rather actually praised for presenting and bringing forth such a complex and very real reality that we sometimes see, and go through.
@hyena234thekids7
@hyena234thekids7 3 года назад
Like I'm pretty sure endeavor will live in their old house alone while Shoto,Natsuo,fuyumi live with Rei in in the house he built for them permanently.like seriously,The physical and mental abuse he did to them for years was cruel and unforgivable.i'm acknowledging he's trying,I will give him that but that doesn't excuse, justify,or forget all the trauma, PTSD And pain and mental and physical scars he put on them. I highly don't want him and rei to get back together,like getting back with your abuser is never a good or healthy idea.the PTSD alone will mentally hurt her. Like I think it's good he's trying to change but seriously what he did was awful, inhumane,and evil as hell.
@solo-monn
@solo-monn 6 лет назад
The latest chapter was lit in my opinion
@solo-monn
@solo-monn 6 лет назад
Formerly Anonymous 😂
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
DatMemeBoi Your opinion sucks the mha manga latest chapters are awfully boring
@FBI_Metal_Slime
@FBI_Metal_Slime 6 лет назад
The Icon bait
@mob-kun4754
@mob-kun4754 6 лет назад
DatMemeBoi So do you enjoy trolling people🤔🤔🤔🤔
@Palladinium21
@Palladinium21 6 лет назад
Nice one
@MuffinYoBusiness
@MuffinYoBusiness 6 лет назад
I don't understand why every is so upset with Hirokoshi about Endeavor, there have been both Super Heros and Anime/Manga Characters written in a similar way to Endeavor yet no one understands that. The whole point of this arc is redemption for Endeavor and him trying to understand what it really means to be the number 1 hero. Darth Vader is a perfect example of what's happening right. He kill almost all the Jedi at the Jedi temple, even the younglings, he's killed thousand of innocents, he's even killed his own master but yet he was redeemed in Luke's eyes after he killed the Emperor to save his son. People need to relax and let the man tell his story he's not even done with the arc yet he's getting death threats over this. Just ridiculous.
@zenithstrikerz1720
@zenithstrikerz1720 6 лет назад
I agree but I think Hank Pim, the original Ant-man, is a better comparison as he is hated for his actions towards his wife (he hit his wife once and has forever been hated for this one act). His whole character is him trying to redeem himself after he and his wife (the wasp) divorced but the audience at large tend to ignore his attempts at redeeming himself and continue to hate him for his past mistakes.
@MMasaomi
@MMasaomi 6 лет назад
This is for the people that seems mad because of Endeavor's arc. My father was abusive when I was a child, but time passed and he's not abusive anymore, he recognized his mistakes and did his best to be a better father, he's my father after all,he left wounds in me but I can't hate him and things are better now. He's an human being. I know other people who had abusive, alcoholic or absent parents but none of those people wants them dead. Mi point is: people and family relationships are complex,they are not black or white, but more like gray. I think Horikoshi tries to represent that in his story, but it seems SJW don't get it because they don't interact much with people. If you don't like Horikoshi or BNHA because it "triggers" you just don't read it but please don't send him death threats, you are basically hurting a real person because of fictional characters.
@lordcvs
@lordcvs 6 лет назад
It's honestly pathetic. Going after an author for trying to develop a character in their story, you know these people have to be no older than 13. If they are, then what a sad way to live. Getting triggered by a fictional characters development. BNHA is incredibly well thought out in my opinion, and I feel that Horikosi has been doing a fantastic job at redeeming Endeavor throughout the last few chapters. Anyways, thank you Tokyosaurus for bringing this to light. I really hope that this does not discourage Horikoshi from continuing with the manga, because it is definitely one of the best manga I have read.
@hypethedude2595
@hypethedude2595 6 лет назад
Lord CVS Wrong they are like 7 year olds or younger mentally im nearly their age and ik how to make sense neither they are 7 year old mentally or 13 year old salty shitheads personally after endeavor said he was proud of shoto i liked him as a character in evolution from a person who cares only about power to a person asking for forgiveness
@maibignutt6434
@maibignutt6434 6 лет назад
it's really pathetic. it's just an ANIME. they should really stop being so sensitive to such a little thing...
@CommentEnthusiast
@CommentEnthusiast 6 лет назад
senpai sama actually it’s a manga
@maibignutt6434
@maibignutt6434 6 лет назад
ZDimensional oh yeah lol my bad
@low-keybi6539
@low-keybi6539 6 лет назад
ZDimensional Its both, it's a manga and an anime lmfao
@CommentEnthusiast
@CommentEnthusiast 6 лет назад
ClaraRose :3 no it’s a manga with an anime adaptation
@low-keybi6539
@low-keybi6539 6 лет назад
ZDimensional Yea, so it's both
@wesleyvl8572
@wesleyvl8572 6 лет назад
I want endeavor to be a hero
@stephaniech6625
@stephaniech6625 6 лет назад
It’s so funny that the mha fandom hates endeavor so much but worships the ground bakugou walks on, even though you can argue that bakugou is a similar level of shitty person for bullying someone for 10+years and telling him to commit suicide
@revolvingworld2676
@revolvingworld2676 6 лет назад
Stephanie Ch Um, no. "Similar level" my ass, bakugo is nowhere near that bad.
@ardaxus
@ardaxus 6 лет назад
Idc I love both lol
@stephaniech6625
@stephaniech6625 6 лет назад
RevolvingWorld if people hate endeavor and mineta bc of their moral high ground then liking bakugou is hypocritical, just sayin
@stephaniech6625
@stephaniech6625 6 лет назад
The Symbol Of Justice yeah me too, a character doesn’t have to be a good guy for people to like them
@ardaxus
@ardaxus 6 лет назад
Stephanie Ch a character being hated is a sign how much good his character is written lol
@oversol5469
@oversol5469 6 лет назад
I’m so far loving the endeavor arch. To take a character set up to be hated and being making him more understandable and human by have this opportunity to change his ways and hopefully others opinions of himself. It reminds me of how Zuko worked hard to gain team avatar’s trust in Last Airbender.
@68Tempest86
@68Tempest86 6 лет назад
Zuko didn't abuse anyone though... honestly I'd rather not see Endeavour redeemed, the idea that abusers will change if you just give them the right opportunity is a dangerous idea to spread. Of course sending death threats to the author is still stupid and 100% not okay though.
@j0doe1
@j0doe1 6 лет назад
Toriyama and Kishimoto justify characters who killed millions of people, shinobi terrorists, and someone who assassinated their own clan (before you comment, I'm just making an example. Yes, I do know that Itachi did it for the village, but we don't know if that was what Kishimoto had always planned), but defending a domestic abuser is out of bounds. Disclaimer: I am not supporting domestic abuse, but at the same time I am also not supporting mass murder, terrorism, and killing all of your clan.
@lancevance6346
@lancevance6346 6 лет назад
Exactly. >A little talk no jutsu reforms a guy and justifies his action and everybody sympathizes with him because "omg,sad love story,much cute couple". ( I'm referring to Obito for those who didn't the the hint.) >Giving a character an actual arc for development to understand his change of heart, and everybody loses their shit.
@bdletoast09
@bdletoast09 6 лет назад
Yes, it's indeed a matter of reliability, because people are idiots and when something touches close, they lose their shit.
@Likeaboss5656
@Likeaboss5656 6 лет назад
Jorrel Doe The difference here is that killing dozens or even millions with magical ki blasts or bloodline techniques is clearly fictional. Domestic abuse is simple and all too real, and people can actually relate to that. The outcry might not be justified, but those comparisons you're drawing are not similar.
@eduardocb31
@eduardocb31 6 лет назад
I think people took domestic abuse more serious than killing planets and clans because it’s something we do see very close in our daily lives. But I do understand your point and also agree
@Adrian-fz7kg
@Adrian-fz7kg 6 лет назад
I really believe that originally Itachi was planned to be just a villain. Even if he was ordered to murder his family, did he really have to torture Sasuke?
@FackuIkari
@FackuIkari 6 лет назад
How dare the author give development to a character that needed it? how outrageous
@d3anims97
@d3anims97 6 лет назад
I feel like the people who hate this are those who are out of touch with the world and just harbor bitterness cause people are/were mean to them. People do come to realize that they are bad people and try to better themselves. Its teh same as the people who project their childhood bullies onto Bakugo and hate all the hints of his own growth. Its sad to see fictional character having more growth and maturity than the real people that read them
@pedrogomezid
@pedrogomezid 6 лет назад
D3AniMs realizing doesn’t mean you shouldn’t pay for your abuse
@TheMinecraftDinoman
@TheMinecraftDinoman 6 лет назад
ya ,but the man also shouldn't be torn apart on live TV for all the world ,and his family to see. Not only would that stunt shoto's growth as a character, but also cause the whole world into chaos.
@d3anims97
@d3anims97 6 лет назад
Who says he isnt/hasnt. His family hates him. His wife, if anything just forgives him out of her own healing/recovery process. Shoto may smile now and then but its not like he's buds with the guy and naturally, not many 15-16 year olds want to see there dad butchered on live tv regardless of how they feel about him. Point is while a few good deeds doesnt excuse what he's done, if he doesnt start changing, how will he change? and people seem to have a problem with the fact that he's started teh road rather than staying horrible. Yet they love Chisaki, a child abuser and murderer and all there mass killing villains
@billcipher2604
@billcipher2604 6 лет назад
Endeavor is technically a child abuser so it's a rather complicated situation. But death treats are wrong for almost any reason.
@zonamaster4763
@zonamaster4763 6 лет назад
BILL CIPHER i dont really see training your child as abusing i will actually want to being train to be strong with some physical paim rather than growing weak
@unknownimpulse1315
@unknownimpulse1315 6 лет назад
burning your childs face is 10× worse than hitting them tbh(i meant what his wife did)
@kennethsatria6607
@kennethsatria6607 6 лет назад
death treats are awful
@Michael-bn1oi
@Michael-bn1oi 6 лет назад
Unknown impulse 13 he didn’t burn his child’s face, his wife did
@bruh1704
@bruh1704 6 лет назад
Endeavour never touched shoto because he was so important, the mother poured boiling water because she saw his flames on shoto.
@riccardocarlini1746
@riccardocarlini1746 6 лет назад
Just a small group of shoto fangirls hating on endeavor, this is actually ridiculous, what's next? Hating on toriyama because he made vegeta redeem himself even tho he used to destroy planets and enslave people?
@javaadsportal6362
@javaadsportal6362 6 лет назад
I’ll be real, my dad abused me and my mother as a kid, I had to call child protective services for it to stop, since I’ve grown stronger and older he knows he can’t do anything like that anymore, I hate him, but he’s my dad. He’s a piece of shit but I don’t want him to die. Shoto, I could only imagine feels the same way. Endeavour is flawed and resented but he’s growing. He’s not the man he used to be, he knows where he stands and what he did wrong and he’s moving towards a future where his children and his wife accept him. Whether you like it or not, this chapter is his starting line, his chance to become the hero he aspired to be, and to take that weight of feeling defeated off of the people around him. Sure I saw the character during the sports festival and thought “what a piece of shit” but when I saw his fight in the Hosu incident it opened my eyes. ENDEVOUR IS A HERO WHO SAVES PEOPLE! DONT FORGET THAT!
@javaadsportal6362
@javaadsportal6362 6 лет назад
If my dad apologised for what he did, I’d forgive him, if his apology was genuine. Don’t get aggressive with Horikoshi for wanting to change a character, besides it’s been more than 10 years since the flashbacks!
@CactusTraveler
@CactusTraveler 6 лет назад
Horikoshi will be attending Comic-Con this weekend. None of the keyboard gangsters will have the courage to voice their hatred in person.
@lalalalisa41
@lalalalisa41 6 лет назад
Tommy Sunset They're honestly hypocrites. Saying abuse is wrong but hurling hatred and death threats is okay? (-.-)
@hyena234thekids7
@hyena234thekids7 3 года назад
I would love to see them try,all the true Mha fans will be there
@shobureiki
@shobureiki 6 лет назад
Liking the character of Endeavor ≠ liking domestic abuse. People are almost never black and white. That's what makes us human. Some of my favorite characters are ones that I started off hating, but eventually grew to love as they themselves grew as characters. This day and age is SO PC that they would rather have characters be one dimensional propaganda billboards, as opposed to characters with REAL flaws and REAL problems.
@kyreebankz6518
@kyreebankz6518 6 лет назад
Tripping
@eopkennels3286
@eopkennels3286 6 лет назад
Imagine someone the world loves but his family hates .... like if you get the point
@sfgiantsfanmike
@sfgiantsfanmike 6 лет назад
It's like no one remembers Vegeta was a 'Richard' initially. 20+ years of development later one of the most popular DB characters. Hope Endeavor gets rhe same
@elpopman2055
@elpopman2055 6 лет назад
sfgiantsfanmike they humanize his Chracter.. But it will take awhile for him to be redeemed like Vegeta. It's just like when Vegeta mentally broke down after Frieza defeated him and Confess to Goku How Frieza Betrayed the Saiyans and cried for the First time. That moment humanized Vegeta... but he was far from redeemed.
@sfgiantsfanmike
@sfgiantsfanmike 6 лет назад
ChouHQ 2500 exactly, hope Endeavor gets the time to get the development to be redeemed.
@kappadarwin9476
@kappadarwin9476 6 лет назад
Vegeta flipfloping in the Majin Buu Saga pissed me off to no end. It made any development he had for the rest of Z meaningless.
@SkipperGin
@SkipperGin 6 лет назад
sfgiantsfanmike And Vegeta was far worse to boot. Endeavor is a domestic abuser, Vegeta destroyed entire planets populated by billions while laughing. But Tumblr is apparently cool with Vegeta, going by how many pictures of Goku pounding his ass they put out on the regular.
@dandywizard1843
@dandywizard1843 6 лет назад
Vegeta should have stayed somewhat villainous. Now he’s just a hero I guess. The end of super took his character in the wrong direction.
@HoduAphrodite
@HoduAphrodite 6 лет назад
Literally this is Endeavor s predicamemt: great hero but horrible dad. He is the example of a hero that isn t a good person, but because he is a good hero in his job Shouto cant help but admire a part of what he does
@despairwaffle6798
@despairwaffle6798 6 лет назад
I'm loving this redemption ark. People just won't accept that even the scummiest people can change.
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
Despair Waffle Garbage arc
@despairwaffle6798
@despairwaffle6798 6 лет назад
The Icon Miss me with that bait shit
@ardaxus
@ardaxus 6 лет назад
SJW cant change tho
@hypethedude2595
@hypethedude2595 6 лет назад
The Icon no you
@vaginalarthritis1753
@vaginalarthritis1753 6 лет назад
I can accept that as long as it's executed well, and it isn't here unfortunately.
@aldosantin1485
@aldosantin1485 6 лет назад
Endeavor is a bad father and I know how Shoto feels. He probably still hates his father, but he does respect him as a hero. Its not good to see him die, no matter how bad he really is. Also we don’t know how things turned out with Dabi stepping in. Maybe karma will get the better of him or perhaps not. Horikoshi does not deserve to be treated bad. He’s trying to give character development and people are flaming him for that? Characters are sometimes like people. They either change or they get too old to be their former selves. Why can’t endeavor change and become a better person.
@krs1297
@krs1297 6 лет назад
Pizza Jango shoto called him dad and was worried about him in the chapter
@bushidorox
@bushidorox 6 лет назад
So?
@verdurite
@verdurite 6 лет назад
Kendall Simington so? Doesn't mean that shoto has forgiven him
@MayasMotivation
@MayasMotivation 6 лет назад
Some people don't believe that people can change. Criminals will always be criminals. It's like the saying, once the vase is broken and you try fixing it. The cracks remains. But in real life, people change. They may not be perfect but that's what you call being human. Many people forget that MHA strives from the real human elements as one of its core storytelling.
@bharlyy4177
@bharlyy4177 6 лет назад
He is his father though, shitty as he is , and not wanting someone to die does not mean you forgave them.
@hdexotic1914
@hdexotic1914 4 года назад
bro am i like the only one who genuinely likes endeavor, accept for the whole father/husband ordeal
@Kim-pk3tc
@Kim-pk3tc 3 года назад
No your not the only one
@Enpatsu393
@Enpatsu393 6 лет назад
focking haters... don't threat the author..Grow up for god sake.
@JasonGodwin69
@JasonGodwin69 6 лет назад
Enpatsu393 SJWs are cancer. They'll do anything to SEEM moral to try and make people forget they harassed a child into suicide over her drawing Steven Universe fanart where Rose Quartz wasn't thicc enough.
@veronis
@veronis 6 лет назад
this is so disrespectful, telling the author to die over a fictional character, wow.
@veronis
@veronis 6 лет назад
Wilson 7397 sorry too lazy
@Wilson-lx5pe
@Wilson-lx5pe 6 лет назад
niu it's ok bb, i forgive you
@user-hi3jr2sc6z
@user-hi3jr2sc6z 6 лет назад
I actually love endeavor, you can’t change my mind.
@whatusay4980
@whatusay4980 6 лет назад
It's his manga. He can take it in whatever direction he wants. That being said it does seem like we are getting some kind of redemption for Endeavor though I think people are expecting a different kind. People seem to be under the impression that Hori is going to have Endeavor completely forgiven which baffles me because if you've noticed he always brings some kind of punishment to those that stray from the path of a true hero and Endeavor definetly did for a long time. Endeavor might be recognized by his son as a hero but never as a father and I don't expect forgiveness but rather acceptance that people can try to change.
@CanterlotCrusader
@CanterlotCrusader 6 лет назад
Andrew Martinez Exactly. It seems to show that Endeavor will never be forgiven, but he’s still his father and one that is trying to change. It’s about reconnecting and hopefully forging a new life for the future of the family. Like Endeavor said, he wants to be a hero and a father his son can be proud of. That is a straight up declaration that I want to earn both roles, rather than just be handed them.
@jayterra2585
@jayterra2585 6 лет назад
I've seen ppl justifying what Todoroki's mom did because it was Endeavor's actions that pushed her towards it. If we see a flashback of Endeavor being abused by his dad or something, will that suddenly justify what he did to his family?
@henrydikes6704
@henrydikes6704 6 лет назад
Jay Terra honestly to these tumblrinas. Probably not.
@henrydikes6704
@henrydikes6704 6 лет назад
Jay Terra And the worst part is that considering factual evidence, Endeavor was PROBABLY subjected to some sort of emotional trauma that made him emotionally unstable. Or at least that's my head canon, I'd love if in the next chapter we got some back story on Endeavor since he's slowly become my favourite pro hero of the series.
@valmcvalval3731
@valmcvalval3731 6 лет назад
Henry Dikes I'm not fully sure how to feel right now. He's a VERY grey character. But I think he can be redeemed. Regarding him probably being abused; most family abusers are known to have had hard childhoods too so that's there. But he still needs to take accountability for his actions. Let's hope this doesn't scare the author away from developing him a bit more.
@henrydikes6704
@henrydikes6704 6 лет назад
Val McValval yep, I think Horikoshi as an author NEEDS to flesh out Endeavors character with some back story.
@misssoso5859
@misssoso5859 6 лет назад
See? this is why I don't buy into this fake-woke, anti-abuse discussions that emotionally unstable idiots on tumblr and twitter claim they really care about. They actually just fetishize trauma and abuse! they just self-project on their favorite abused character and then they live out their wish-fulfillment fantasies and lose all objective, rational thinking in the process. Fictional trauma and abuse to them justifies bad actions of a beloved character, but if a character they hated turned out to have the same sob story and suffered the same abuse then it's all : 'omg! this character's past doesn't justify their shitty behavior! how dare they hurt my baby?". Ugh, what a bunch of moronic hypocrites
@tood7614
@tood7614 6 лет назад
Alright alright, I very well understand that these are fictional characters, but if there a father who, clearly, made some very bad choices (Endeavor) in his life to hurt others (todoroki and his mom) wouldn’t you rather see the Father and family’s relationship get better and heal, rather than just “ok Endeavor died, woo all our problems are solved”.
@lastbastion3333
@lastbastion3333 6 лет назад
Let me guess. They were Americans? Hahaha
@ninobeano7627
@ninobeano7627 6 лет назад
ShinySpiritomb 33 tumbr users
@GregCaldwellPlays
@GregCaldwellPlays 6 лет назад
You really had to go there? There’s other counties in the world
@lastbastion3333
@lastbastion3333 6 лет назад
Yeah but Americans get so triggered over shit like this. Yeah the dude abused his family in the past, but hes a different person now. Get over it retards.
@Morally_Immoral2
@Morally_Immoral2 6 лет назад
Probably Japan that fan base over there fucked up fairy tail not saying it was good but worse than it already was
@carlfletcherjunior9076
@carlfletcherjunior9076 6 лет назад
Probs
@rashaadsreign
@rashaadsreign 6 лет назад
He doesn't deserve this type of hate especially after writing an amazing story such as My Hero Academia.
@darknight-xe1ll
@darknight-xe1ll 6 лет назад
Rosé Gamer true i love mha
@ardaxus
@ardaxus 6 лет назад
Golden words
@nulllex0099
@nulllex0099 6 лет назад
I don't know, it feels like cultural backlash to me. Last time I checked, folks on the US and western Europe all are sensitive about child abuse to the point people like me or the Japanese find it, well, baffling really; we're taught that stern and strict parents will bring the best out of their spawn. Physical punishment isn't uncommon, whereas I'm fairly certain doing these things in the US/EU would be grounds for taking the child away from them. Now, don't get too worked up, I've seen just how mentally broken people can wind up as because we've got this mentality (not to mention Japan's severe, nigh perfectionist working culture as a whole has lead to a whole lot of suicides) in real life, but the thing is, this is a work of fiction, and fiction that feels, well, normal to me. Also, this arse's supposed to be the second greatest hero around. I'd say it'd feel cheap if he didn't save the day at least a handful of times, especially when he's simply powerful enough to do it.
@eileeng9317
@eileeng9317 6 лет назад
NullLex00 bless this comment
@CallistaRhian
@CallistaRhian 6 лет назад
Yup, inflicting corporal punishment on a child is legally considered a crime in some Western countries (this includes spanking)
@catalysts94
@catalysts94 6 лет назад
The thing is, there is a fine line between corporal punishment and abuse.
@nulllex0099
@nulllex0099 6 лет назад
Bonfire-Chan a line that's closer to punishment for us I'd wager. Still, I'm very, very glad the cultural norm chilled out as time passed; when my father was a child, my grandfather would whip him with a belt.
@Ravi9A
@Ravi9A 6 лет назад
Bonfire-Chan and endeavor is far away from the Damn line
@tangroro
@tangroro 6 лет назад
People who're angry at Horikoshi probably never been through abuse, I was abuse by my father, and I can tell you it's not as simple as "never forgive the abuser". My father abused me and my sister for almost 6 years, but before I grow up, before I can do anything to hurt him back, he apologized to us and changed to a better person, left me with anger and hatred that have nowhere to point at. It's painful and it's not fair, but he's not the same guy who abused me anymore. It's really like Guardian of the Galaxy 2, rarely have I ever seen anything actually captures that kind of realism of abuse. That's just how abusive family is, I can tell you how often I wish the worst fate upon him, but at the same time, he's still my dad who works hard to support us financially, and I do care about him. It's a love-and-hate relationship
@henrydikes6704
@henrydikes6704 6 лет назад
tang roro how do you love him if you wish bad things upon him. Your Dad has changed and is trying to be better, I think you should support him as much as you can.
@henrydikes6704
@henrydikes6704 6 лет назад
tang roro how do you love him if you wish bad things upon him. Your Dad has changed and is trying to be better, I think you should support him as much as you can.
@tangroro
@tangroro 6 лет назад
It's complicated, people who's not from a abusive family can't really understand that, I love him because I acknowledge his hard working and I do have happy memories with him, but I will *NEVER* forgive him for what he did to me
@henrydikes6704
@henrydikes6704 6 лет назад
tang roro well that's not cool, but I know nothing about your situation. I too, have had a dark past with my Dad, and although no abuse happened it was still very unhealthy. That being said I hope that you and your father are taking strides towards a better future and can someday be a whole family again, I personally haven't been abused so forgive me if what I'm about to say offends you but, Isn't the word NEVER, a bit dramatic.
@Pipopowitz
@Pipopowitz 6 лет назад
Twitter and especially Tumblr are the cancer of the internet.
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
Pipopowitz Mha fans are the epitome of cancer
@darknight-xe1ll
@darknight-xe1ll 6 лет назад
Pipopowitz twitter is ok tumbler the most
@xato-1
@xato-1 6 лет назад
The Icon *broly as banner*
@seosoz
@seosoz 6 лет назад
It's bc tumblr is so filled with sjws and morons who think being depressed is cool and special.
@priscillam.t.6215
@priscillam.t.6215 4 года назад
LEAVE THE MAN ALONE AND LET HIM DO WHAT HE WANTS WITH HIS CHARACTERS
@kylekrupa9476
@kylekrupa9476 6 лет назад
What the people who are flinging death threats are missing are 1. It's a manga and is purely entertainment. I mean I love MHA, One Piece and recently gave Black Clover a shot, and I think what people forget is it's a story. I understand if some issues within the story relate to your personal life but at the end of the day, it's fiction and the Author is a human being like the rest of us trying to make it in this crazy world. 2. If the people have been following to the themes in the story, the public has been wavering on the topic of heroes. The seeds were planted in the Stain arc and the Attack on the Camp and All Might's retirement have made people skeptical about the future of heroes or if they are even necessary. Endeavor is now the #1 hero and has a sketchy past. IT WILL COME TO LIGHT. There is a lot of foreshadowing, the news crew are on the scene after the High End Fight, with Dabi's appearance and if the bombshell of him being Endeavor's son is true, then expect lots of people to loose faith and heroes and for the profession to not be as highly praised as it was. Seriously people.....use your brains and think.
@garchompelago
@garchompelago 6 лет назад
sends threat because the story isnt going the way they want. its 02 X Hiro fiasco all over again. Majority of the anime community is toxic, this is why people make fun of anime fans.
@elpopman2055
@elpopman2055 6 лет назад
Benz Quizon Feather River that id an ignorant thing to say. the Minor side of the Fanbase is Toxic.. do not insult The True Fans By Claiming that Majority of The Fanbase is Toxic.
@elpopman2055
@elpopman2055 6 лет назад
Dragonoid Fox no that is the minority please stop being ignorant.
@HeroOfJusticeYT
@HeroOfJusticeYT 6 лет назад
"actually no I'm not being ignorant I'm just saying the truth I have been part of the anime Community well not really part of it " that right there puts a giant hole in your next few statements also what do you mean by anime community cause each anime has their own community, ive never heard of the steins gate community losing their shit over something like this
@skelitonking117
@skelitonking117 6 лет назад
To be fare the author of Darling has some huge cucking issues that he projected onto his series; it was inexcusable how people reacted but if he didn’t use his own manga as a way to demean himself and actually make it decent it probably wouldn’t have been so bad.
@dragonoidfox838
@dragonoidfox838 6 лет назад
Actually no forget I might getting a pointless internet argument because I was never leave anywhere I'm just going to leave it at in my opinion yes my opinion the anime Community as a whole is terrible
@brokenbagel798
@brokenbagel798 6 лет назад
"OMFG CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT?!" "IN MHA?!" "IN A WELL-BUILT, WELL CONSTRUCTED MANGA?!" "IN ENDEAVOR?! "IN THE FATHER WHO, BY ALL LOGICAL MEANS, CAME TO REALIZE THAT HE SHOULD MAKE AMENDS WITH FAMILY AND NOT HAVE AN ESTRANGED RELATIONSHIP WITH?!" "I DEMAND A RIOT!" Literally the logic behind the hater's motives.
@hyena234thekids7
@hyena234thekids7 3 года назад
Mind if I give my two cents on endeavor and his redemption? I'm just so torn.i want to give him another chance but like he physically and mentally abused his youngest son and his own wife to the point of insanity, Heavily neglected his other son and only daughter to the point where he can barely remember him,And even potentially abused his eldest son,Touya,To becoming a serial murderer(Dabi)and forced his wife into a loveless marriage.he didn't treat his kids as children,he literally treated them like science experiments,called his two eldest sons "things",and overworked Shoto to the point where he started vomiting (all when he was literally five years old).
@MrLuizilla
@MrLuizilla 6 лет назад
Just because Endeavor has done horrible things, doesn't mean he isn't capable of good deeds. Should his past be ignored, or forgiven? Absolutely not! Can he be redeemed? Maybe, but it's going to take a lot of time, a lot of apologies and a lot of sacrifices.
@kennethsatria6607
@kennethsatria6607 6 лет назад
He seemed to want to make up for his abuse in the recent chapters... I mean really some abusers have a sense of twisted love so what's to say he can get rid of the harmful stuff considering he's been so humbled by defeat/unwanted/default victory
@vasile-vladivanovici9430
@vasile-vladivanovici9430 6 лет назад
Meanwhile, Kratos' change into a better individual is being accepted even though what he did is on a whole other level of unredeemable.
@KiraDidNoWrong8274
@KiraDidNoWrong8274 6 лет назад
Vasile-Vlad Ivanovici well yeah he did but i think endeavor hit a lot closer to home for people
@CanterlotCrusader
@CanterlotCrusader 6 лет назад
Vasile-Vlad Ivanovici Guardians of the Galaxy 2 had two abusive Dads in Ego and Yondu, but no one threw as much as a fuss. Ego is a bad one that one must cut ties with, but Yondu is one that is complicated to explain, and even harder to forgive, but there was that love there and that’s what showed through.
@josiaht5687
@josiaht5687 6 лет назад
Bro9650, he got his ass wooped by cell, super buu and jiren tho.
@mathieul4303
@mathieul4303 6 лет назад
Bro9650 Same with Killua. He is a murderer and still, he's popular.
@LxJ3F3
@LxJ3F3 6 лет назад
Sasuke killed a bunch of samurai but I don't think anyone not even the people in Naruto world gave a shit about that lol Dio is another one his whole reason for even existing was to make the lives of Jonathan and his descendents a living hell yet people on the internet have turned some of Japanese quotes into memes
@waifoo4300
@waifoo4300 6 лет назад
Hirokoshi has yet to miss a beat in delivering deserved characterization. What sad human being wouldn't want to see an endeavor redemption arc? Seeing him go from terrible abuser to stubborn doof trying to make things up to his family would be so satisfying- I don't doubt he will be punished, but I also don't think he deserves to die or spend the rest of his life depressed. Yes, he left scars. A lot of family members do. Im not saying what he did was right or defending his actions, but he deserves a second chance to redeem himself and prove to his family that he can be a good father.
@MrHoneuma
@MrHoneuma 6 лет назад
He deserves punishment, not redemption. What he's done gets people thrown in prison in the real world, and he deserves at least that.
@cartoondimensions
@cartoondimensions 6 лет назад
Honeuma Tsubasa why not both ? In a way to have a "redemption" you must first have to get the "punishment" from what you did
@joaogarcia6170
@joaogarcia6170 6 лет назад
@@MrHoneuma what does punishment bring ? Does it help the person to become better ? Does it solve the problem the person is struggling with ? Then what good is it for ?
@CJCroen1393
@CJCroen1393 5 лет назад
Unpopular opinion: While Endeavor's objectively a worse person, his redemption is being handled better than Bakugou's. Because Endeavor had the decency to feel _guilty_ about it and try to make amends. Bakugou is redeemed because...he...got kidnapped once, I guess? He apparently doesn't have to feel guilty about the years of bullying and emotional torment he put Midoriya through or even apologize for it, not even the suicide dare. Nah, he told the League of Villains he's not joining them so that means he's a flawless perfect angel now and literally every bad thing he's ever done in his life must be completely forgiven and if you still hate him you're basically Monoma! Oh yeah, he did feel guilty...about All Might losing his powers...which wasn't even his fault. But the bullying and _telling an innocent kid to kill himself over something he couldn't control?_ Nah, that's all cool. Totally doesn't ever need to be brought up again, apparently.
@kursor52
@kursor52 5 лет назад
@@MrHoneuma What is redemption for if no one deserves it? If Endeavor doesn't deserve it where do you draw the line for who deserves redemption?
@Heelydon77
@Heelydon77 6 лет назад
It is honestly ridiculous that there are people that take a fandom to such a point, where they blind themselves to understanding that a manga character is not a real life character. These people are so ridiculously missing the point about the amazing writing Horikoshi is doing, is sparking emotions in them - that is why he is so popular - but when they mistake these feelings for real life rage and frustration instead of an artistic one, then they're just wrong.
@IIKazeII
@IIKazeII 6 лет назад
I don't understand how could be so cruel for a manga. I know that a lot of people hated Endeavor for what he's done and you have a right to but honestly this is getting out of hand. Why threaten the creator about his characters and the way he handles them just because you didn't get what you wanted? It's not your story, your art, your character. If you wanna still paint Enji to be the bad guy then we're a FanFiction to fit your needs. There is no good justification that anyone could ever give that makes it right to threaten Horikoshi. Enji is far from being redeemed guys. His arc still holds so much room for him to grow as a person and while the things he's done in the past cannot be changed, he can try to change himself now to prevent the stuff that happened back then from happening in the future. You have to remember that Horikoshi is writing these characters with the intent to still keep them as human as possible. Enji's road to redemption is something a real human would try to do as well had they been in his shoes and wanted to fix things. Another thing that made me upset was hoe a lot if people reacted to when Shouto yelled at the TV that he was watching while Enji was fighting High-end. You have to understand that that is how a real human would react when seeing that their father might just die. It doesn't matter how much shit they put you through, at the end of the day that's his father. Please remember that Shouto also respects Enji as a hero for all the things he's managed to accomplish during his career. He may hate him but wishing death upon him isn't really something Shouto would do. Guys, Dabi just came onto the scene so there is still a huge possibility that Enji could be exposed if our theory is correct. Chill out and enjoy the manga for what it is. Like I said before, if you really want Endeavor to be the bad guy still then write a fanfic.
@WeiYinChan
@WeiYinChan 6 лет назад
I wonder how many of them loves Bakugo even though he’s an abusive bully to Izuku. That said I hope Todoroki is not gonna just brush off his abusive childhood in the name of “forgiveness”. I want him to make it difficult for his father earn and fight for that forgiveness.
@CJCroen1393
@CJCroen1393 5 лет назад
Indeed. We need a balance here. Endeavor's growth as a person is...okay, but it shouldn't come at the cost of Todoroki's characterization getting...kinda ruined.
@hyena234thekids7
@hyena234thekids7 3 года назад
Oh trust me,he is.shoto's making it complicated
@StackACat
@StackACat 6 лет назад
I honestly think ppl are upset about this whole redemption thing because in real life if someone abused his or her child/spouse, the real life scenerio would be to make sure the child/spouse is safe and to remove them from the situation. The advice always given to domestic violence victims is "dont stay." In addition, those that were abusers don't seem that capable to change that quickly as they have their own problems to work through. It is possible that ppl who are angry about this redemption arc are coming from that point of view. Also, while other characters have done far worst things (like kill a whole tribe, for example), those actions seem far less relatable, while domestic violence hits closer to home for a lot of people (PUN NOT INTENDED). I definitely agree that all the criticism the author is getting is a bit too much (and death threats are never acceptable), but perhaps this is where some ppl are coming from. Spoilers ahead: Edit. In addition, i think a big cue that ppl missed was the fact that endeavor reached the number one hero spot. Finally reaching his goal meant he no longer had anything to set sights on and this probably made him feel like he lost a sense of purpose. I imagine he probably started feeling regret and guilt with the way he treated his family when he got to the top and realized being at the top wasn't what he expected, or how easy All Might made it seem (perhaps potentially having to take on the role of symbol of peace scared him). Another part some ppl might've overlooked the significance of was during the recent fight when Endeavor started overheating and he had to make sure he didnt die from his own quirk. Im fairly certain it was mentioned earlier in the story, but I just wanted to point out the frustration Endeavor must feel everytime he has to hold back in a fight because of his quirks own weakness (and how much better of a hero he would be if he could solve this problem). Creating the perfect child is, in a way, a psychological projection of himself, the perfect hero HE himself could have been. Shouta is Endeavors 'if only', if he didn't have a weakness such as overheating. Of course, this doesnt excuse abuse in any way, but the author's subtle hints about the flower to the mom and Endeavors fight really helped me see the whole picture.
@gab3963
@gab3963 6 лет назад
StackACat I agree. He’s a villain many people have seen in their eyes (okay maybe not a villain to the public, more to his family), and no matter what happens I don’t think I’ll be able to forgive or like him. Many of my friends have and do like him, but I can’t bring myself to.
@yoursonisold8743
@yoursonisold8743 6 лет назад
+Gabbie Ski Do you know how many thousands of lives Endeavor has saved as the #2 hero? Calling him a villain is plain wrong. He might be a piece of shit, but compared to his good deeds, his bad ones can't compare. Sometimes heroes aren't good people. You don't have to like him. Just don't call him a villain.
@StackACat
@StackACat 6 лет назад
Yourson Isold It's a different kind of moral standard. Is the happiness of many more important than those of a few? Put in another sense; if someone murdered an innocent person and then donated food to 100 starving people, does that make his good deed erase his bad deed? To the dead person's friends and family, that's hard to justify. To call him a villain is probably the improper term, but just cause he's saved hundreds doesnt mean you should forget the terrible things he's done to his family either.
@yoursonisold8743
@yoursonisold8743 6 лет назад
StackACat I never said forget about them. I'd prefer he repent for it too. He probably will in some fashion, hence why everyone's so angry at Hirokoshi right now. But ultimately in a world of grey morals, those that overwhelmingly do good are the heroes and the good guys. Everyone needs to pay for their crimes, but not everyone will. The greater good can be upheld by bad people.
@Temujin18S
@Temujin18S 6 лет назад
StackACat People are just hypocrites there's nothing grounded when Itachi is shown constantly abusing Sasuke physically and mentally. Killing innocent children.
@kadenthemysticswordsman2340
@kadenthemysticswordsman2340 6 лет назад
I still love the my hero academia series no matter what
@darknight-xe1ll
@darknight-xe1ll 6 лет назад
general kaden kitsune the one and only persona user same
@CaffeineDeprivation
@CaffeineDeprivation 6 лет назад
Me too
@theicon7638
@theicon7638 6 лет назад
general kaden kitsune the one and only persona user Trash series just like its fanboys
@kadenthemysticswordsman2340
@kadenthemysticswordsman2340 6 лет назад
+The Icon well if you mean the people who sent the death threats you're damn right
@darknight-xe1ll
@darknight-xe1ll 6 лет назад
The Icon keep saying no one gives a fuck about you
@pippip4911
@pippip4911 6 лет назад
Endeavor makes me incredibly uncomfortable. But threatening the author is so wrong! We can critizise his way of storytelling, but people on the internet take it too far. I don't like the way he managed Endeavor story, though. I think it was creative in the beginning to have this villainous character be considered the "number two hero" because it showed that both sides had bad people, and not for getting a hero license it makes you automatically the ultimate good. It showed that the hero system in the story was flawed, and that was something i thought was going to be explored. I don't mind if he has a redeeming arc, but he has a lot of work to do if that is the case, as he made him incredibly hateable for most of the story. Im not even sure that as a reader i would be able to fully forgive him for the stuff he did to his family, even if he does something really heroic or gives up his life for saving someone. But hating Hirokoshi for that is stupid.
@Addvant
@Addvant 6 лет назад
His redemption arc isn't even over man. Of course stuff like that is hard to forgive but 1. He's a fake character and 2. He's attempting to make up for it. How would you feel if all the mistakes you made in your past clung to you like glue no matter how hard your tried to revert them and genuinely change?
@FeiFongWang
@FeiFongWang 6 лет назад
Somebody who would go so far as traumatizing his wife would never truly change. That's what I hate about this show, so naive, everything is so black and white and simple, it's sickening.
@Addvant
@Addvant 6 лет назад
Dapper Dhampir you say he'll never change but you call the show black and white? Hypocrite. People can change, your mindset is toxic
@ajax4676
@ajax4676 6 лет назад
Honestly I can't relate to anyone who dislikes endeavor he's the best
@FeiFongWang
@FeiFongWang 6 лет назад
The show is black and white because he's a hero, and they want to show him as a good person deep down, since he's a hero. I don't really follow this show or the drama surrounding it, I just stumbled across this video and thought I would share my two cents. I did read most of the beginning though, and I got the idea that the show was completely cliche and naive. The clips I watch on RU-vid tend to just reinforce this idea. And yes, I know people can change, but if a character's whole plot importance centers around wanting to be the best, and how that can bring about tragedies, then what's the point of trying to redeem him? To prove that in pursuit of being the best, the ends justify the means? Or is it just to show the kids that there are no truly bad heroes, and to respect authority? My Hero Academia really tries to parallel the real world with their themes and characters, so redeeming a character like this has clear implications. This show is so transparent, it's a wonder anybody over the age of twelve likes it.
@machine1685
@machine1685 6 лет назад
Endeavor has shown remorse for his actions and is actively trying to be a better person. A redemption arc is fine and I think it has been handled extremely well so far. The people who are sending and/or wishing death upon the author for telling a story about someone who has made mistakes in his life and is trying to make amends are being completely childish, to put it softly.
@TheIceLurker
@TheIceLurker 6 лет назад
People hate Endeavor for being a hero character that isn't pure justice like every hero in the series so far? It's not like they're even blowing over the issue, it's the main point of the arc.
@klavdiym
@klavdiym 6 лет назад
TheIceLurker main problem is that Endeavour didn't suffer for all the abuse. Retribution is earned, not given. He didn't go to jail, he wasn't beaten into a bloody pulp by his son or wife's friends or someone fed up with the abuse. He didn't lose his position as a hero because of the abuse or anything. That is why people have a problem with it.
@Saint0999
@Saint0999 6 лет назад
klavdiym still. It’s retarded. The author is not condoning it. It’s just an arc
@Jack-kn1mr
@Jack-kn1mr 6 лет назад
"One good act doesn't wash out the bad nor a bad the good"- Stannis themannis Regardless of what the man did to his family, he's saved hundreds or even thousands of lives over the course of his career as a pro hero. He was a shitty human, but a good hero. It's also not like he's suddenly a good guy and everything is right as rain we are going to ignore everything now. The whole trajectory of his arc seems to be him TRYING to make amends for past mistakes. That's what bha is all about if you think about it. Characters having the realization that the way they have been doing things up to this point is wrong and they need to change. For some like Shoto, it's easier for others such as Endeavour or Bokugo it's much harder.
@klavdiym
@klavdiym 6 лет назад
Niggaraqua Black I know, all I am saying is that is why people have problem with this arc, me included. Gotta earn your retribution.
@lionward8634
@lionward8634 6 лет назад
Thank you, so much, for this, Tokyosaurus. People who started threatening Horikoshi and taking this harshly are extremely short-sighted and I cannot believe they went out of their way to hate on this. Endeavor being a hero isn't him redeeming himself. Yes, he's shown that he wants to change, that he wants his son to be proud of him, but saving the day does in no way make up for the abuse he's caused. And Shoto cheering for his dad doesn't, IN ANY WAY, translate to him forgiving him for everything he made him go throw. NOT BY A LONG SHOT. I'm a victim of domestic abuse, and while I won't go into details, I'll say that, yes, I can understand, you can grow to hate your abuser, despise him, and even wish they were dead. Absolutely! I've wished my father was dead numerous times. But what people need to understand is that eventhough you can have those feelings towards someone who ruined your life, it doesn't mean you can't still love them or worry about them, even if you don't actively want to. Even if you wished you wouldn't care. That's just how things are for some people. You can't just take a case of abuse and use it as reference for EVERY OTHER CASE. Every victim has a very specific and unique set of factors that define their personality, feelings towards those who harmed them, etc. And Shoto worrying about Endeavor is absolutely okay. He's not forgiving him. He still hates him to a degree. But it's also his freaking father. He's lived with him his entire life. He doesn't wish to see him die. He doesn't want him dead. And. That. Is. Fine. I just still can't believe that people are throwing shade in Horikoshi's way for ACTUALLY writing a situation that's totally possible and sensitive. Any other mangaka could've made Endeavor save the day and have EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HIS MISTAKES FORGIVEN just because it's shonen and not, say, seinen. But Hori-sensei is actually writing this in a way I hadn't even dreamed of, and is making me, someone who went through a really rough childhood, connect deeply with Shoto's conflicted feelings while giving me peace with the fact that the whole Todoroki family is still getting development in the search for peace for themselves, wether that's with Endeavor changing for the better, as a human being, or just by seeing Natsuo, Fuyumi and Rei support each other alongside Shoto. And to add to that, now seeing Dabi appear and potentially reveal his identity? Seriously, people. Sensitive/Sensible storytelling, character development with a lot of passion and care by the author, AND now potential game-changing drama? What the heck else do you want? If you, for whatever reason, don't like where this is going, that's fine. Leave. Check out other shonen manga, there are plenty of options with heroic themes. But don't stick around, point fingers, and yell for no reason pretending you understand a situation when you haven't even taken the time to think about what's ACTUALLY going on in MHA. That's all I have to say. Thank you again, Tokyosaurus.
@hyena234thekids7
@hyena234thekids7 3 года назад
Damn bro you went on a whole rant, respect. Like I haven't forgiven endeavor yet but I am somewhat interested in where his character will go. Abusing your youngest child, neglecting your older children and abusing your wife to the point of insanity is something I personally find unforgivable and awful but he's getting slowly get atonement
@rivkisetya2368
@rivkisetya2368 6 лет назад
Fans should be grateful that endeavor got a redemption story arc. Some forgiven characters don't even have one (orochimaru after the war ended)
@PhoenixDragon90
@PhoenixDragon90 6 лет назад
He is still his father for him. No matter what he does not want him to die. Also endevor could start to fix all of his mistakes. Doesn’t mean to 100% forgive him but come on. So ya I agree with you.
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