They probably feel guilty about their own actions. I get this DAILY from my own mother. She keeps threatening to order a pizza 😂 so I “take a break” but it breaks my heart.
I feel part of the issue is how the lady basically said "I do the best for my kids by not buying store bought. Everything in the store is poison." Not every mother can devote hours to cooking. Thus they feel shamed. Honestly we should find a better way to support and not judge other mothers.
They take it as a personal attack. Someone asks me where my kids go to school and I say they’re home schooled and they take it as a judgement on THEIR choices.
@@annm3064no one would care that she said that unless they believed it was true deep down. When vegans say meat is murder you laugh and go on your way. You angered because your bacon habit is being “judged”.
It is so crazy that people have just accepted that ultra processed foods are terrible but still think you need to feed them to your kids so they have a “healthy relationship” with “food”. How about we expect more from big companies to stop making poison and stop supporting them until they do!
I heard Cameron Borg say that he can’t say if seed oils are good or bad because they are not food. That it’s the same as if someone asked him if chair is a good or bad food. It is just wrong question for those substances 😂😂😂
@@christineharrington5550 I posted in the Cuteservative group under the recipe thread but you should be able to find it if you Google "the pantry mama sourdough hot dog rolls"
Same 😂 but my kids wouldn't care about the smile. I think it would be fun to get the kids to help and maybe use miniature cookie cutters the same size as the goldfish. So instead of goldfish we'll end up with a zoo 🎉 I'm excited to try it out.
I LOVE your podcast! I discovered it last year some time while diving deep into Biblical Parenting. Since the interview you did with the author of "M is for Mamma", I have watched/listened to almost EVERY episode, AND I went back to watch the episodes from before I tuned in. Seriously I've learned sooooo much. The knowledge I've gleaned from your show has helped mr become a more present mother to my 4 children, a more intentional wife and homemaker, a healthier individual, as well as working to improve my family's health. Im not 100% organic, gluten free or seed oil free yet, BUT we are making great strides for change in our houshold. I'd say we are 80% there. Thank you for what you do in bringing the information to the forefront to be shared with the world.
I just want to say this podcast has really changed my life! I started listening to you in October of 2023 and have learned so much from you and the guests you have on. I went vegan from the age of 20-26 because of how poorly animals are treated in commercial farms. When she started to describe their living conditions it actually made me cry. I started eating meat again almost 2 years ago due to health issues but was buying the poor quality stuff from the grocery store. When I found your podcast I got motivated to find a local farm to buy meat from. I was able to find a regenerative and humane certified farm to buy beef from that’s only an hour away from me. I also started exclusively buying grass fed butter, tallow, and milk. I still have a lot of progress to make when it comes to the cheese and bread I use but the switches I’ve made in the 8 months I’ve been listening to your podcast have had such a big impact on my life. I feel so much healthier and literally never crave snacks or sugar. Thank you so much for all the good information you put out into the world!
Having a stocked pantry with full freezers is the easiest and healthiest way to feed your family! Every time I am getting low on those things, my grocery bill goes up and meal planning is stressful.
I have to admit…I was irritated when I saw her homemade goldfish reel. I thought, “this woman has way too much time on her hands!” But, I am really glad I watched this episode. She did a great job explaining why we should eat real food vs processed food, and explaining how it’s actually very economical. And I appreciated that she encourages people to start off tackling one thing at a time. All in all, the advice she gave was very practical - which is not the impression I had of her at first!
Excellent interview, ladies! Working mom of two here, and I can absolutely attest to repeating recipes until they become routine. Saturdays are for sourdough around here. I learned a lot from Farmhouse on Boone on how to use sourdough starter throughout the week as well as other recipes from scratch.
I'm in awe over this interview with @gretchy. I appreciate all the interviews you do, Alex, you are helping the world become a better place by bringing these topics and valuable people to help educate all of us. Following her now, I already do some things but I am ready to do my next new thing. Feeling very inspired to get fresh flour with my new grain mill I'll be ordering next!! Thank you, both!
When I seen the short, I came here, found her channel and subscribed. Im with this mum. Good on you Gretchy for making your kids a healthier alternative. All a bunch of lalas that honestly don’t deserve to have kids if they just complain about HEALTHY FOOD. Lazy bunch of knobs.
That’s too funny! It’s actually a lady that lives and serves her family just like me! My oldest son is 8 and does not consume sugar at all, along with the rest of our household. I cook literally everything from scratch myself, and I have for years. I get so many rude looks and comments every single time we say “no thank you” to sugar or processed snacks at kids activities. And I suppose that’s the division of me from her… I WILL NOT bend just because we are at a kids bday party. I do however just pack our own snacks, and or bday type treats instead, and my kids don’t feel they are lacking at all. :)
@@annm3064 I think if you are making versions of Oreos or goldfish everyday, cooking for your family would be your job. However I don’t think cooking from scratch means you have to be a SAHM. I think her tips to start with simple stuff first is great and add in what works for you because doing something is better than doing nothing just because it can seem overwhelming.
I really liked this interview and do think you can start with small changes that build over time. As a working mom I often feel overwhelmed and lack time (and trust me I’m not sitting around watching tv at night), so I think keeping things realistic for me and my family is crucial. We’re all doing the best we can and even if you change just one thing, that’s one step in a good direction.
I don't know where you're located, but I'm in Metro Atlanta and I can get a organic, free-range chicken (5-6lbs) from Aldi for $15. Costco has similar prices for me too.
We are in that boat! Do your best with what you have, and let your heart be at peace. With that being said, I try to cut out whatever we can to try to afford the better meat. From what I can tell, the grass fed beef is the best as far as healthy meat is concerned. Go that route and nix the chicken, and buy the best eggs you can afford.
Yes, I don't know how people can say that it doesn't cost more to eat well when they are spending so much on a single chicken. But then again, they are influencers.
I am loving these Alex! I’ve already made the switch with some products…sweet treats made from scratch at home, with natural sweeteners. Mayo from my backyard chickens, homemade marinades and dressings, sourcing local raw milk and more. I love the inspiration I’m gathering from these guests to keep pairing into the health of my family!
Such an inspiring interview, thank you Alex for another great episode!!! Newly SAHM and on a super frugal budget aspiring to give my family the best - thank you for all the info!!! 🙏❤
💯 spot on. We are the sickest nation in the entire world. Its like big pharm and all about 💰 💸 and who's pockets are being lined. No offense to Gretchy, but there are MANY people in the US that eat this way. She just happens to be on the internet sharing how she lives her life. And look how beautiful she is!! And her skin is glowing, her hair healthy, etc. 👏👏👏
Alex, I'm not sure if your guest will see this question, but what about the issue of bone broth often containing heavy metals such as lead? I'd be happy to incorporate bone broth into my family's diet but I'm concerned after doing some light reading about it.
I love Gretchen’s content and I love Nara’s content too. I think they say Gretchen copies her because her video execution is exactly like Nara’s, not because they both cook from scratch haha. The voice tone, mannerisms and even words are the same. Nevertheless, I do love Gretchen’s content and I don’t compare them
The thing is, don’t go around telling people about your eating habits, they don’t understand. I have a 4yo, 2yo and pregnant. My kids still don’t eat any of those processed foods either and I cook from scratch. But I don’t lecture my Friends about it
I find it strange that Alex assumed that the reason the guest received hate from Nara’s fans was bc of race. Not everything is about race, Alex. Also, Nara is just as much white as she is black.
Wasn't there another new rag that went after Gubba Homestead? It'd be fun to see her transformation as well... Thanks Alex, for another awesome episode!
@@vintagebeliever5023And making goldfish doesn't take much time? My family has a similar recipe, takes 12 hrs to make. We don't even bother trying to cut it into fish, just squares. The last time it was made, was 6 years ago because it cost so much and took a full day. Would've been more productive keeping the kids busy, cleaning after them, and spending time on house chores.
@@MysteryExodusBeing a working mom, I know how much free time there is. Do you? Since there is apparently so much hate for non-crunchy and non-almond mothers?
Sigh. I'm getting tired of wealthy people telling me to "just cut your streaming services and you'll be able to afford organic." Well, we don't have any streaming services, we don't even watch tv. And, oftentimes, I can't make a purely organic haul as much as I'd like to. It's a little more nuanced than that. I'm not picking the crappy, $4.99 tiny box of organic blueberries when the non-organic are often BOGO and 4x the size. And believe me, I'm well aware of the fact that blueberries are on EWG's Dirty Dozen list, but when my husband works a hard manual labor job, I have to give him more than 10 blueberries in his lunch. Lady, you just focus on getting healthy, free range chickens from your parents, and I'll keep my eyes peeled for the marked-down, manager special cuts of meat at the only grocery store in my town so I can save money, thank u. And before anybody comes at me in the comments I appreciate what this lady does for her kids and think it's absolutely DUMB that she got cancelled for making homemade goldfish crackers.
You don’t have to be wealthy to pick good quality food. People always have some kind of excuse. Have you searched all your options? Costco? Aldi? My husband & I can make an organic grocery haul for the week from Costco for less than $200. There’s nothing wrong with being 70/30 or similar.
@@JMagnoliaSalas The closest Costco is about an hour away. Doable for sure. I'm not sure if my family needs a Costco membership yet - it's my husband and I and our 1 year old. How much do they cost? Yeah the prices of organic berries is wild! And the raspberries always get moldy!
@@schmellen88 our 1 & 3 year olds inhale the blueberries. We get the pesticides free ones, it's $12 a bag for a 5lb bag. You can also do $10 for a 5lb of organic strawberries or mangos. Since it's an hour away you can buy 2 bags at a time. We use them for everything- oatmeal, smoothies, out of the bag, muffins etc and go through a bag in 2 weeks. I would highly recommend the Costco membership, they carry a lot of great organic options at good prices. Organic carrots, mangos, veggies, rice, beans etc. It is worth it.
@@schmellen88 As a single income family ourselves, I thought the same thing. But I drive an hour now once a month to do my grocery shopping for our family of now 5. I buy from costco and natural grocers (all organic) and spend probably $600ish a month on groceries. We buy our meat in bulk from a local farmer once a year with our tax refund along with 2 gallons of raw milk every week. We do not make a lot of money at all. We are on the low end of the spectrum but making things from scratch and not buying snack food has saved us SO much money on groceries. I used to spend over $1000 on groceries. Now I do not and it has saved us in this economy. We do a 90/10 lifestyle honestly but even being able to do a 70/30 like someone said above is still better.
I grew up like this in a small village in Mexico. Not because my mother was very health oriented, but because we were poor. My dad a was farmer and mom was very resourceful and an amazing cook. She raised chickens, had fruit trees and a vegetable garden. We lost that when we moved to the States and were introduced to readily available and convenient groceries. It's funny how now we find it difficult to return to a more primitive life and renounce the unhealthy conveniences of modern life.
I cannot stand the goldfish craze. What's in them that makes moms so crazy to defend them and makes children light up like crack addicts when they see them?
YES!! You totally get it!!! ITS A DRUG!! In the ingredients they list "autolyzed yeast" and "spices" both are used as cover terms by the food industry for MSG. MSG is an excitatory neurotoxin, it creates addictive behaviors and literally damages brain cells. It's actually hard to research because the food industry lobbies have done A TON of funding to flood the media with propaganda about MSG being safe. They even have industry funded studies claiming it's safe. HOWEVER, i started reading medical literature due to a loved one having dementia and I realized they use MSG to induce dementia in mice!!! Also used to induce diabetes and obesity. 🤯
When it comes to cost, I have seen it myself that investing in higher quality whole foods is absolutely cheaper at the end of the month. I did the whole low fat, sugar free, lower calorie versions of everything in an effort to be "healthier", but I was always hungry and needed a little something more to feel satiated. Since switching to regeneratively farmed food, full of it's natural fats, my husband and I have both lost weight, we're rarely hungry between meals, and end up spending less each week on groceries.
LOVE these guests, Alex! I'm 24, and my health journey is at the stage of making more and more things from scratch! I'm already making my own whole wheat bread from scratch, and it's soooo much better than storebought bread. I want to get into making my own sourdough, salad dressings, mayo, flour, etc, but it all seems so daunting, and I only have so much time after my 9-5! 😭 But when you have guests like Gretchen on, I can go through their material and get inspired on how to do it myself! Also, I think Erica Komisar is _exactly_ right: some "mom guilt" and "mom shaming" is GOOD, because it should galvanize us to DO BETTER for our _children's_ sake! That's good!! Modern women just don't want to hear that they could be doing better, and that the lifestyle of convenience they're living now is harming their children. But they don't want to take that, run with it, and DO better! That's sad. I'm inspired, not ashamed!
Do one thing at a time. I'm starting this journey as well. Sometimes we have to take short cuts since we work full time. But if we work at it it will eventually come to be a routine for us. Don't get overwhelmed, you've got this! Sending hugs and luck to you ❤❤
I agree with a lot of this however I just want to say that food like anything can become an idol. I have multiple ferments on my counter, raw milk and homemade yogurt in the fridge and sourdough rising, but you better believe I ate an Oreo at grandmas house today, ha!
People should be going after parents who feed their kids a majority processed food diet rather than a mom who's trying to feed her kids as healthy as possible. We live in a twisted society where people don't want their feelings hurt and don't want to be held accountable for anything
I’m a SAHM and I cook all of our meals. Not every single thing I use is from scratch tho. This is my beef-no pun intended-with people like this lady talking about ancestral diets and how we used to eat. What people fail to mention is that these people lived in tribes and they literally worked all day preparing foods TOGETHER!!! Or it was large families living on a generational farm-It wasn’t just one mom who had other things to do and get done. Like, the likelihood that this lady stays home all day long doing nothing else but cooking, planting and harvesting foods all day is very unlikely . People like this are no different than any other influencer who puts out unrealistic lifestyles and makes money off of it. Again, all this to say, I have 20 chickens, 4 turkeys, a milk share for raw milk and cream, get grassfed meat from a local farmer, and have fruit trees and berry bushes and I still do not make everything from scratch because I wouldn’t have time to literally do anything else!!!! That’s why I’m calling this lady out! Lol 😂 she’s doing this for her job!!!
Not a valid point. We have dishwashers, we buy our clothes, we have countless things in our modern life that make this lifestyle doable for everyone. It's a matter of learning and being willing.
@@amandahughes7509 dude, I have chickens( both for laying and meat birds), turkeys, fruit trees, berry bushes, on my two acres of property-it’s a lot to maintain. Do you have anything remotely like that? People think stuff like that just runs itself and it doesn’t at all. So, the likelihood that this lady runs something like that, or greater, cooks from scratch , parents effectively, is a present wife and runs a you tube channel is highly unlikely. It’s just reality. I also live out in the country-so I have an access to a milk share and to grassfed cattle. But that’s my point, I have neighbors who help me maintain that lifestyle-just like tribal/ancestral people had! Most people do not have farmers for neighbors.
She's freely admitted that she's very blessed because her mom does all the farming side of things, she's JUST doing a few productive things (chickens and a small garden). It is very important to specialize, because YOU are right. You cannot do it all!! You can't grow wheat and garden each veg, slaughter cows AND be a five star chef. That's why we have butchers and bakers and candlestick makers. :) Hope that helps.
@@alyssamurphy2002 exactly-my whole point is ancestral diet/living is not a one-man show. You have to have help. People who live in cities or the suburbs don’t have a ton of access to people skilled in that type of living nor do they have the space to maintain stuff like that on their own. And , like I said, it’s a lot of work to maintain even something minimal out in the country. I mean, chickens and their eggs have a lot of predators. You have to process your own meat chickens. Gardens and fruit trees are susceptible to molds, frosts, rots, and animals that eat your shit. You have to mow and maintain your acreage. I think people think it’s easy and that everyone should be able to do it. It’s weird.
I'm also SO GLAD that it's getting more and more accessible even if it's currently for the wealthy, because in a free market, eventually the plasma screen tv or iphone can wind up in the home of the poorest people! It takes time, and I'm thankful for all the crunchy hippies and crusty farmers before me so that I can at least buy Dave's organic bread and Ezekiel bread until I can afford to get a grain mill. I'm thankful for deer meat and quail from friends. It does take a LOT more effort and time to cook whole meat and wash hair and feathers off.
It truly amazes me how a mom who is just trying to feed her children and learn how to fuel them in healthy ways is deemed a "bad mom" or "mom shaming" but I see moms posting themselves feeding their kids McDonalds and the comment section is full of praise. I don't think either parent is better, but we should be aware that most companies DO NOT care about our well-being. Nobody cares more about you than yourself and people seem to forget that. :) loved hearing her point of view!
With all the junk people feed their children now a days, it is refreshing to hear someone actually researches and take the time to feed their children healthy. Thank you
I recently uploaded a few pieces on content on making foods at home to avoid crappy ingredients and save money. Most of the comments are great, but it’s amazing how triggering it is to some. I started out explaining to some why it IS doable, but what I’ve decided is that many enjoy the excuses, and that’s okay. My content isn’t for them. It’s for people who want to do better. 😊
Excellent point about whether you watch TV yet complain you don’t have time to make wholesome food for your family. I’m sick of the lies women are telling themselves and the excuse making. As a homemaker and mother I hear justifications daily from my working mum friends. Watching women like this SHOULD make others uncomfortable and ideally drive them to change.
So true what she is saying! My dad grew up in Mexico in a small ranch where all they ate was what they grew themselves or could afford to buy from nearby other families. They raised and butchered their own chickens, pigs, cows, drank raw milk, made their own cheese , grew their corn and made their own nixtamalized masa. My grandmother and aunts would grind their corn on metates (flat volcanic stone similar to a molcajete.) because they had no electricity. He grew up a very simple but beautiful life! I was fortunate enough to experience some of that life myself as a child spending my summers in the ranch and watching my aunts do this. We also had no washing machines so had wash clothes by hand! 😅 Many of the elders there were so healthy because they ate so natural. No fast food or any processed food because it didn’t exist there at the ranch at that time. My dad always said this to me growing up that eating processed food is bad but I didn’t think he was right until now I realize that he was 100% right!
I love all of this, however, how the heck do you afford all the local beef/chicken, raw milk, raw cheese?! I make so much from scratch but I can’t afford $10 a pound for local ground beef! I have two boys and a husband that eat a lot!
Start with what you can afford and work up from there. Progress not perfection! We prioritize local beef, tallow, lard, and veggies. Then the rest we buy conventional. We have 3 kids 6 and under with #4 on the way so we could never afford to go raw dairy with how much we consume. Hopefully at some point I'll be able to work some into the budget but that's a ways off.
I audibly laughed at minute 47 when she said we had to remove the conveniences like getting Chick-fil-A for dinner. As I’m happily listening to this wonderful podcast eating my Chick-fil-A for dinner 😂
I totally agree with her on everything but I was getting so paranoid of everything that my cortisol went up and I over worry myself for everything I see in ingredients because I think of my child.. I worry for him but then realize I have God and He won’t forsake us he has our back that is why we pray for our foods. But I do what I can so I can give my family the best. The only problem everything is so expensive especially local….
It's super hard for me. I started doing so much more cooking and so much less processed food, but the extra time and dishes to reheat that food on the stovetop was just one more thing that added stress for no reason, IMHO.
I was with her until she mentioned the microwave. I have four kids home with me while I work full time from my home office and I meal prep for myself and my kids. I’ve done the work to make us healthy lunch options on the weekend but I don’t know how else you’re supposed to warm your food for four children when I only have so much time during the day. But hey if it works for her great! I’m just not in the space or time with my family to get rid of our microwave 😂
@@katemiller7874 I would be willing to listen to that argument, but she just seemed to be against anything that makes her feel like it's too convenient.
My main issue with people like this is that they make it so all or nothing when making some smaller changes can still have a significant effect. It doesn’t have to be so full-on and overwhelming. For example, pick 1-2 things you eat frequently, and find ways to make them healthier, meal prep one hour a week and store the food in the freezer/fridge. I live in a small studio and no garden, on a low salary, so I couldn’t do most of this but I do what I can that works for me - mostly not organic, but better animal welfare where I can, and no fast food etc.
I’m so happy that you’re talking about birthright! I started taking them with my fourth pregnancy and this is the first time that I haven’t needed to take any iron with my prenatal vitamins. I love it!
I agree we should be eating organic, but a lot of people can't afford that. Especially if we already don't pay for extra bills such as streaming services. The only reason my husband and I are able to eat meat is because of food pantries!
I used to make everything from scratch and now I make nothing from scratch but still eat organic. There are so many organic dye free foods that are now available that weren't available back them. Both are not disordered eating. Your kids always prefer homemade delicious from scratch food if you can afford the kitchen time to make it.
Alex, you are really making it difficult to ignore your ads 😂 but back to the subject matter... I am now going to look for a local source for pasture raised eggs, chicken, beef, milk, etc! THANK YOU
I grew up eating like that. And I have struggled with severe anorexia most of my life. My sibling as well. My mom had a healthy body image, but her relationship to food was much like this one. I do not think this mom should be shamed. I do think there is a valid reason for concerned reactions. Personally I agree with most of her nutrition choices but I also think a more balanced approach to food would have been better for my physical and mental health
This is one of my big fears with my children. Did your parents explain to you about why it’s healthy and all that? I already find my 6 year old son asking if something is healthy and I really try to get that out of his head and for him not to worry about it, but because our family has chronic illnesses I always strive to make us healthy food and avoid processed foods.
@@alyssamurphy2002yeah I would be curious as to what else happened in her life to leave to eating disorder bc eating healthy, whole unprocessed foods and if it’s explained what foods are absolute poison (McDonald’s for example) then with other foods there should be predisposition to eating disorder…🤔
my in laws get ANGRY that im picky with my childrens diet. i love this lady, God bless her for doing what is BEST for her childrens health! im excited to listen to the whole episode
I’m both terrified and inspired. This video popped up in my RU-vid feed and I clicked it- the first 30 seconds I was like omg this is me but I haven’t taken the leap yet! So I went vegan along with my family about 7 years ago thanks to documentaries like Forks Over Knives convincing me that this is the healthiest and best thing to do. I have been feeling the past year or two that we are doing the wrong thing and slowly we have introduced a little bit of dairy back into our home, and I’ve started making meat for my family but I haven’t been able to bring myself to eat it! I’m still so torn between what is the real truth! I do believe processed is bad but is dairy good? Is meat good? I guess I have a lot of research to do (again) but how to decipher truth from lies?!!
They feel like we're crazy bc the opposite of watching and paying attention to what we eat and what our children eat require effort they dont want to consider. I received backlash as a cloth diaper advocate.
I don’t feed my kids junk food or keep it in our house and I have noticed that when my kids get access to junk foods at friend’s houses, they binge and overeat because they feel like it’s their only chance to eat the fun foods. That’s where the eating disorder enters in. I don’t know what to do about it but it’s a big problem that these two are glossing over like moms are exaggerating or making excuses.
Kids are going to be kids I don’t think that means they’re going to have eating disorders I would be happy that they are eating clean majority of the time and have a good starting point. When our kids become adults they can choose how to live but I do think planting seeds of information are harvests you’ll get when they’re older
Yes dear this happens. This happened to daughter’s first boyfriend in college. His parents restricted his sweets so much he’s huge now. He could not control the sweet intake. She broke up with him because he treated his finances the same way he treated food and alcohol. Gorging. Everything in moderation dear. Try making goodies at home with monk fruit or stevia. It might help them. I would not be 100 percent restrictive with children like some of the zealots on here. I raised a boy and a girl who are 26 and 28. We always had candy and sweets around. They liked it at the time but barely eat it now as adults. My daughter is no sugar now. My son rarely eats dessert. Very slim and nice looking. You are the only one with sense that hit on that. I commend you the others are so willfully blind. I hope this helps.
Man. Here I was thinking I was doing everything right by not buying ultra processed foods and getting our meat from Good Ranchers. Apparently, I still have a lot to learn. But this is good. I’m always hunting for things my daughter and I can do together. I think she’d love a gardening class. She and I can learn these lost skills together.
I LOVE THIS EPISODE! Thank you, Alex. So much. This is exactly what I needed to hear right now in my life. God has been putting it in my heart and mind to change my lifestyle and its been so overwhelming. I love all of the questions you asked Gretchen and her suggestions on how to start with one thing at a time. So so good ❤
I'm listening to this while looking at my half-eaten bag of goldfish. I've been eating the same bag for close to a month now, it's not optimal tasting but cute enough to have become decor. Yes, I'll still finish the bag... eventually.
I like the tip of getting good at one recipe and then moving on to another one. But the microwave thing is not going to happen in my household. I use my microwave to make and reheat healthy food. And always in glass, not plastic. I love my microwave so much I'd like to get a second one to speed up reheating foods for supper.
I’m on board with everything, but this lady just seems cocky and condescending. Alex is so warm and welcoming, this women seemed like she had better things to do.
