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my issue with the APEX RANKED system 

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@waterboi614
@waterboi614 7 месяцев назад
The rank system basically went back to old apex where you have to get kills instead of placement for rp. It's really interesting because last season you had to win games now it's the total opposite again to rank up. I think the system improves skill in a way.....
@procarson
@procarson 7 месяцев назад
I can see it improving skill 100%. You have to take fights with teams if you want any real RP and looking back at last season it was still too much placement points being handed out a majority of the time. Like a change I thought to go against the ratting situation, you had to do X amount of damage to your true amount of placement points for whatever you got so someone couldn’t just get 0 damage and 100 points for second or something to that extent, I know that would be extremely hard to implement but it would be maybe something to look into and still allow kills to me a majority of the points you earn
@michaeldettore5224
@michaeldettore5224 7 месяцев назад
No more ratting through rank which is good. Shouldnt get rewarded for hiding all game
@spencerwheeler1075
@spencerwheeler1075 7 месяцев назад
You also got points from participation I believe 5 for each
@procarson
@procarson 7 месяцев назад
I just need to get good at the game and adapt to the newer system that’s pretty much it I just like to complain too much. It’s just so weird seeing pros in pred lobbies getting 25 points for a 2nd place still lol
@thsxi
@thsxi 7 месяцев назад
No you shouldn’t go positive simply from placing high. Apex is the combination of placement and kills and ranked should reflect that. In season 17 they made it so that you go positive no matter what and look what happened, everyone ratted to master. Trials were just a bandage fix.
@procarson
@procarson 7 месяцев назад
I agree season 17 was an awful idea for placement over kills that was proven by 1.5 million masters in pc alone. Although ALGS is the most competitive form of Apex and a lot of teams are focused on zone now since you can’t sit in zone and craft red armor after the changes so it’s going to be even more focused on playing zone looking for placement along with kills late game. How the ranked system is right now is not the same as the most competitive way to play the game. Getting 10 kills with any placement is more rewarding than playing for zone and late game kills combined a majority of the time. The system is allowing players to just run at everyone to get as many kills as possible because they know placement will get them nothing in return. HisWattson got second the other day in Pred lobbies and got 25 RP. My brain doesn’t think “oh yeah that’s the correct amount of points he should get.” I don’t think it should be as much as it used to be because that would allow ratting inside ring to be a thing again, but that high skill of a lobby playing against other pros going for #1 in the world should reward a little more. How much I have no idea but everyone is going to tunnel vision on kills and nothing else and that is fun for some but not everyone.
@thsxi
@thsxi 7 месяцев назад
@@procarson well as unfortunate as it is you cannot reasonably expect a ranked system to match that of a professional tournament where vast sums of money are on the line. In lower ranks like gold, the players are neither good enough to play and there’s no real incentive to play like that. Only once you get into high plat and diamond do you see people playing like that because getting more points at that level is much more difficult. Not only because the penalty is greater but the players are also at a much more competitive level, and because it’s much harder to gain points so sweating it out for even a few more points creates a greater incentive on top of the fact that each game you risk losing so much. As for those that get high kills, in 2 weeks time you won’t see that happing. For now people are still getting into their ranks so you have better players in lower tier lobbies, as you can imagine, they’re better so they’ll get more kills and rank up faster, as they should. As long as the match making works correctly once ranks stabilise, it will be very difficult to get high kills because there will be no one significantly better than everyone else. If they do then they should get more points and rank up faster to get to their appropriate rank, because they’re better. Skill in a battle royale is dependent on both kills and placement. Ratting to top 2 with no kills doesn’t mean you are skilled if you can’t shoot for shit. Your gun skill can be amazing but if your game sense lacks, 1. You won’t get anywhere near a win and 2. You won’t get high kills because a BR isn’t linear. Both were of these players are shit. Only those that combine both are good and should get high ranks. If you want to make the getting of high kills mean not a lot we can go back to season 13 system where until top 10 kills are worth only 1 point. HisWattson getting top 2 with 25 points means a he didn’t get kills but that would mean others did, so who is better the one who didn’t or the one who did and still got similar placement. [edit: just because he got the top 2 doesn’t mean he deserves more, ranked isn’t meant to be participation trophies, just because you put the hours in doesn’t mean you should get a rank because you “deserve it”, skill is everything] Him not getting kills could be a result of a poor drop, dead team, bad positioning, may factors however each of these is a skill issue on his part. A battle royale is not linear, a many great things could happen, you could get lucky or unlucky and you have to anticipate that however the better player will make best of a bad situation, and bad player won’t, that’s what separates them. Who’s better, a squad of timmies who are too scared to fight anyone or a squad of diamonds who go around fighting and killing people but place lower? Assume this is casuals, it’s obvious who’s better. Assume this is ranked, it’s obvious who played smarter, doesn’t mean they’re better though, and rank should be determined on who’s better. If they can kill all those people clearly there better and should earn more points for that, until they reach a rank with players of their skill.
@procarson
@procarson 7 месяцев назад
@thsxi I respect that response 100% and can agree with your statement. Better players should get up the ladder way faster. I’m obviously not the best player so I have to use wattson as an example but it just feels weird seeing him place 2nd and meaning almost nothing still. Something I simply have to adapt too and get better at.
@FamTaco
@FamTaco 7 месяцев назад
How many games did it take you to reach gold?
@procarson
@procarson 7 месяцев назад
I’m not sure off had I went from silver 4 to gold 4 in a day playing with a friend a week or so ago I think? We both gained like over 3k+ RP extremely fast. Very first day I played I got to like bronze 2 with a different friend though if that gives you an answer at all. I can check later if you want an exact amount though!
@FamTaco
@FamTaco 7 месяцев назад
@@procarson ok I’m just checking if I’m making good progress lol, last mid season I switched to controller and it was going well but at the start of this season it felt like AA wasn’t helping out so I switched back to MnK have you noticed a change in aim assist this season?
@procarson
@procarson 7 месяцев назад
@FamTaco I haven’t myself and apex hasn’t dropped any updates or blog posts about AA being changed yet. It feels pretty normal to me but they do plan on changing it in the future. They didn’t give us an exact date but they did say they wanted to make it more balanced, how they do that I have no idea lol. If you’re soloq any progress is good progress! The season definitely got harder with the changes to ranked but that’ll make players better that stick with it and progress more up the ladder!
@gabeitch3067
@gabeitch3067 7 месяцев назад
1v1 me
@procarson
@procarson 7 месяцев назад
You’d win by default I promise💀
@JoshBrowardTVyea
@JoshBrowardTVyea 7 месяцев назад
I'm constantly dying within 5 mins of landing but I must say it's been hella fun
@procarson
@procarson 7 месяцев назад
It definitely feels more fun than last season I’m just struggling with those 8th place games with still negative points. It’s just a mood killer I swear lmao
@sheafields6566
@sheafields6566 7 месяцев назад
I’m not having that problem ?
@procarson
@procarson 7 месяцев назад
I’m just bad or have terrible luck on rotations. Prolly the first one though:/
@JesseMannino
@JesseMannino 7 месяцев назад
me and my friends said low masters i think we will hit low diamond atp im losing 40 a game bc of wraith and 20 bomb 4k pred banner frame it js pisses me off
@procarson
@procarson 7 месяцев назад
I’m thinking the same for me as well. Back when this ranked system was in place I was low diamond. The game is in a better state though so I can’t get too upset
@jamesfolsom7850
@jamesfolsom7850 7 месяцев назад
Bros mad he can’t rat 🐀 to master this season
@procarson
@procarson 7 месяцев назад
Literally hit it last season with less than 500 kills and less than 30 wins. Made a video on how I hit it you should check it out on my channel:)
@getgotornot
@getgotornot 7 месяцев назад
​@@procarsonthat's ratting...
@procarson
@procarson 7 месяцев назад
Did you watch the video or we just assuming I ratted after having a positive KD the whole season as well????
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