MY issues with Vivziepop 

The only reason background characters are so diverse is because they are oc made by animators and fans who were put as easter eggs.

She's married to the colours pink & red

Bro I saw a fanart of striker's scraped desing and OMG. DUDE WE COULD HAVE HAD DILF STRIKER 😭😭😭😭

Me when the other half of the color wheel is gone and I have to make a TV show :(

"The art is so bad-" Bro.. her old artstyle was genuinely so pretty and bouncy as an old fan of her YT channel. Like it was coloful and so expressive, but then this artsyle... Like what happened?? 😭

This is actually so true, every single character is a skinny little twink and then when people go at her for having no plus sized or non skinny characters people are like “Well there was this one character that showed up in this episode-“ and the you check and… they were there for like ten minutes tops. (Like Mimzy) Also tell me why color palate and design wise every single character looks like a twelve year old’s edgy gatchalife oc 😭

calmest most relaxing rant ive ever heard

I hate all of the characters with daddy issues like omg

As a big fan of hazbin hotel, I think you had a lot of good criticisms. I'm also kinda bothered by almost every character being extremely skinny/lanky, it's even worse that there are other body types in the background because it shows that they *can* draw other body types and features, they just choose not to 💀

5:15 you're so real for that Both Hazbin and Helluva are praised for diversity yet it really doesn't go any further from LGBT rep.. the main cast of men are all twinks and with women, sexy hourglass shaped, which is really saddening to see since they tend to be the least talked about characters yet their merch sells in an instant when their sexualized

Viv has the taste of a Tumblr 15 year-old In comedy and character design.

I agree with most of this, but I think her reasoning for lack of diverse/unique main characters is because even before the show, her fictional world had a fandom. People are attached to these characters, and they probably wouldnt like any drastic changes

The most painful part is that there are unique and diverse characters in Vivzie’s work they are all just relegated to be one offs or background characters :(

They don’t even look like demons! They just look like edgy insect-shaped twinks that have wolf faces or horns sometimes 🤦🏾‍♀️. And don’t even get me started on SATAN’S design. Everything you said in this video was spot on. These shows (Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss) could be good, but the art kinda sucks.

Dawg why does a pretty large sum of characters in all of Vivzie's creations have daddy issues? like, I know it's her choice but not every other character needs daddy issues. I wouldn't be surprised if whoever owns Alastor's soul is his dad because of how overused the trope is 💀

Unpopular opinion: garten of banban has a more diverse cast then hazbin hotel or helluva boss tbh

finally see someone talk abt the lack of different body shapes in vivziepops art 🤩

On the DeviantArt thing, Vivziepop has had most of her characters since she was in high school, and quite a few have barely changed since them, which makes their designs a lot more embarrassing since it seems like she’s so stuck in the past that she didn’t even think to try and improve her designs over time 🤦🏽‍♀️

THE MOST CRAZY THING IS SHE WENT TO A ART SCHOOL O.o

the sad thing is that she cut the only diverse character she had from the cast (mimzy), she cut the only blue character she had (baxter), and she cut out not her only, but one of the only non human looking creatures (crymini) she has the ability to create a diverse cast (on her timber project there was three main characters, one of which was a chubbier girl named maggie, she's super adorable too) she just like doesnt lol i still love this show though, and i love the artstyle and that is why i watch videos like this, so i dont make the same mistakes when i draw in her art style

Vivzie clearly has favorite types (bow tie and suits) but man. Wish she could vary.

i swear i watched this video in a dream and idk how to explain it😭😭

I don't want to hear anyone say " because they're demons" have a look at smt then

when you were talking about diversity in the cast, one instance i was reminded of was the fact that alastor was supposed to be a creole person.... you can see how that turned out

Some of my thoughts: 1. Why are the background characters not only more diverse, but why do they have better color palettes? Tbh Miss Zilla from HH looks like the main character compared to everyone else’s bland color palette. 2. I hate when fans who say, “oh it’s Viv show she can do what she wants” every single time her art is criticized. Isn’t the whole point of a TV show to appeal to an audience? 3. If you’re not going to make the characters’ color palettes anything other than red, could you at least make the hotel another color so the characters don’t blend in with the background? Or at least make it a darker red? 4. The animation in the pilot feels more natural. Idk how to explain it but it feels like the characters are more real. They all have different ways of moving. Charlie moves more slowly while Alastor is energetic. That’s missing in the final show. It feels more corporate. I know that probably wasn’t their choice though

Tell me why the gay and straight pairings can have as much sexual tension as they want but the ONE lesbian couple cant have any romantic OR sexual tension at all

3:25 literally the only two i could recognize were alastor and angel dust, and that's just because there was the slightly different color like the skin or shirt! I could not recognize the other two!!!

My biggest gripe with the artsyle is the 8 twink in suit designs we have. Like why are so many of them Twinks in suits lol.

You can REALLY tell all the designs (mainly in hazbin) she made were made in highschool, it brings them and the shows their in down by a lot

good points yet man cant even lead by example i am not even a fan of hazbin but the sht about diversity is such a non issue, nobody is obligated to draw everything and while it is mostly appreciated to have this shit isnt necessary. and my guy be sayin this while having ocs with no distinctive body type or features.

This small channel is so good, these rants are actuallt so calming to listen too while i paint or animate, thank you for blessing my ears!!

by the thumbnail i was expecting an obnoxious loud voice (like me frfr) but your voice is so angelic not to mention how well it compliments the song in the background!!

Fair. Viv style is something I love but I get why people don’t like it. Great video man, and really great art. It’s a crime you don’t have many subscribers, so I’m going to change that. Take my subscription.

Sorry if this is unrelated, but the thumbnail is so freaking hilarious for no reason.😂❤

Having an art style that doesn't click with the person can be a huge turn off for some people. Animation is art, and the whole point is looking at it. If you don't like looking at it then it would make sense why you wouldn't watch it. You also do make some good points about character diversity and color diversity. A huge critique about the shows art style is that the character almost blend in the background. The "it's hell" comment is a lame excuse to not explore different color pallets for the characters. Especially since there are demons in folklore that are not red. Heck I think even purples would look amazing and bring diversity while still fitting the vibe. The point is that color diversity and body diversity really is just bare minimum of mastering your art style. Even shows that are extremely stylized have diversity in the characters not only in body and looks but also colors. Of course there are always exceptions to the rule, but this is just not one of them. And even so you know what they say about exceptions, they don't make the rule.

So, a few notes. Whether or not you like the style is up to you and that’s fine. I agree Vivziepop could have done a lot more in terms of colour pallet and shape language and surface stuff but (While I am not a superfan) I seem to have watched more of the show than you said you did and I enjoy watching the lore videos. The reason for all the red; they are in hell. It’s the pride ring. Everything is red themed. Other rings have different colours. The fish ring (I forget what sin) is all a turquoise/blue colour and the characters (while still skinny) have different themes and shape language. I think Viv really wanted to stick to the theme and make that clear which limited her choices a lot. It could have been better but whatever. For the ethnicities thing, I think Viv did a decent job. Once again, its not perfect, but she put effort into it. I feel like I have to be careful here because I don’t want to be accidentally racist but characters do have features from their ethnicities. In Hazbin hotel, Vaggie is Salvadorian, has darker skin and a hooked nose. Velvette also has darker skin and at one point is shown “dressed down” and naturally has really curly hair. There are others but I cant mention everything about everyone. It’s harder to talk about the diversity in Hellova boss because most of the characters are not and have never been human so they aren’t tied to human places of origin. There is diversity within types of demon, such as Loona being a hell hound, Stolas being Goetia, whatever Striker is, etc, and they all have different character designs, shape language and themes. Beyond physical design choice, the voice acting is really good and the character’s personalities are interesting. The plots are fine and the songs have good moments and bad. I personally like hazbin hotel better than hellova boss. In the end, your opinion is still up to you. Honestly I’m just playing devil’s advocate (lol) and giving Vivziepop a bit of defence.

BASED!!!!! One thing about it that irks me about it is how cluttered the designs are. Why does Husk need all of those spots on his wings???? It looks like a NIGHTMARE to animate, and I'm surprised that it hasn't caused the death of a poor animator yet. There are just too many useless details that don't translate well into a cartoon like this, and it makes the whole thing an absolute eyesore.

As much as I love her work (in story writing and a few character designs) I can’t disagree w/ the fact that almost everyone looks the same in design, color coding, anatomy, etc. Like for example you look at Alastor in the scene of his radio tower in ep 2 in his fight with Samsung tv. You can barely make out his skinny twink figure in the already red room. While she does add different anatomy to *some* characters, like Vortex, mammon, or Asmodeus, the rest are skinny 5 foot twinks. That’s it. Of course with background characters it’s a bit harder to make designs but most of the Animators have their own hellaverse OCs that they’ll animate into the background. They’re still bland, the imp ocs, hellhound ocs, and Goetia Ocs are all the same just with different haircuts, clothing, and jawlines. While I only have a few characters for little mini comics I like to work on, I still have color and Anatomy Variety. However I do take Inspo from Vivienne’s artstyle in places like the eyes, hands, hair, and *sometimes* I’ll draw the bodies like she does but that’s it.

Your art work is very calming. Also I 100% agree with your takes. Especially the part about different facial features and racial groups I'm also so tired of whenever people redesign the character and make it really good. The fandom acts like they dox Vizipop herself Like the characters are fine but it need some work and this is somebody who has watch every ep (so far) of side show hellva boss. For example why is a bounty hunter who also works at a ranch is a twink? Like make that make sense

I totally agree with you. Also I love your OCs and their stories! I want to know more about them.

I don’t think the color palette thing is that big of a deal. That could easily be passed off as a stylistic choice- there’s tons of media that includes limited colors that works well stylistically. Main problem for me is diversity, like you said. All the (main) characters are skinny, and honestly there isn’t even much ethnic diversity. I do really like the shows though- the writing definitely isn’t bad. It Can be a bit choppy at times though (especially in hazbin)

As much as i love her shows this is so real😞 i mean there is a character with an afro but most of the time her hair is styled in different ways and you only see it in one episode.

Thank you for making mention about the color palette and body shape!! Just because both shows take place in hell doesn't mean that their main colors need to be red, like look at the background characters. Those suckers aren't just red- they are a hole bunch of colors!! Plus the main cast can sometimes just blend in to well. As for the body shape, there isn't anything against making slim/thin characters (I'm saying this as on of my own characters ended up with the vizipop body- I HAVE A REASON BEHIND IT I SWEAR.) but if all of your characters just end up as a copy & paste body shape wise- It's very bothersome and makes it hard to tell them apart.

oh my god this is a great take. also i love ur art and characters

Ok to be fair, as much as i agree that it's not great when artists don't vary their body types, it's also...not straight up a requirement for artists to vary? Don't get me wrong, it's A LOT BETTER when there's a variation (culturally as well), because of representation for different people, but the whole "deviantart art style" or "too many twinks" argument- it's not your world and we can't force artists to draw anything. Should the palette be a little more varied? Probably yeah, but even there, if someone doesn't like what she creates, instead of trying to stigmatize her whole style and choices, why not just avoid her work? I don't think she's being offensive when she chooses not to make bigger body types for her main cast, hell I'm chunky and I still don't mind the twinks or not seeing more characters like me in there (also she isn't thin either for most standards, so maybe she has my same problem with art - I'm uncomfortable with my body shape - or simply didn't want to change her ogs too much, not all artists like to redesign the same characters 50 times like i do lmao). Obvious statement, but this really all boils down to opinions and preferences, of course, still as an artist with my own reasons to not be super varied (body type wise at least, even if i have 0 problems drawing characters that belong to others that are beautifully chubby), it's not super great to see someone else getting always criticised about the same things about her art style (click on any video talking about hazbin and there's the same 5 points repeated with different wording). If you dont like the show or the artist, ignore it-. I'd understand hate or exposure if she was doing something offensive, but she (for now) isn't.

I mean you probably can't distinguish them because you've never watched the shows. I'm not the biggest fan of Vizziepops aesthetic and yes the color scheme of the shows are very repetitive because everythings set in the same theme of hell and thats how she decided to portray it. However, clearly most people don't have issues distinguishing her characters because theyve spent time with them and associate personalities and events with them. As well as voices, how they emote etc. Not all characters are nor have to be designed like mascots. Yeah mascot like characters thaf focus on instant recognitizability one site through color design is great for making them universally memorable but theres nothing objectively wrong with going for other kinds of experiences. Its hard to see the form of criticism as of much value considering ofc you can't tell the characters apart when you've had almost no experience with them in the medium they exist in. For me once I watched her animation, alot of the annoyances of her stuff kind of work in the actual product better than expected. Its not like I think Vizzies work is even that impressive or perfect. It deserves critique. But alot of criticism seems to come from people who just aren't into what its trying to do in the first place and are uninterested in engaging with it for what it is. Instead bringing in their personal subjective and often unimaginative rule set for "good and bad" which is fine until you start assuming what you find as flaws are actually failings of the work even when its possibly more down to taste than the subject of the criticism or are so bothered that a piece of media exist that doesn't appeal to your personal guidelines. Cleary alot of people find the similarly colored characters very memorable and interesting so they don't really have that flaw function wise. You simply don't find them memorable or appealing and it makes sense. But it also feels a bit less valid compared to if you engaged with it more than on a surface level and reached that conclusion. How can you say you're mad that you don't know why people like a show after admiting you know nothing about the show? And I say all of this as someone who thinks alot of Vizzies characters are cringe over designed and ugly tumblr esc, but I wouldn't call them bad or unmemorable or all the same.

Bro your designs are so nice fr. I love colour coordination and as much as I enjoy Helluva boss (It's more of a junk food sort of thing yk?) I hate the constant use of red. And most of the main cast designs feel like the character artists were having some serious art block when making them.

I'm just addicted to this show cuz I like to imagine how better I could do lol

It’s not even the fact that twink bodies are the issue (which in this case they definitely are) but when making a character design the most important thing when making their appearance/body type is to make sure their personality and character fits it! Striker for example, is an assassin and knows his way around a ranch. He easily over powers multiple trained assassins of the show (especially at once), casually lassoed a big ass pig, and can take multiple stab wounds near the kidney. And overall that with his cowboy/western macho persona taken into account as well.. A MAN LIKE THAT WOULD NOT BE A FUCKING TWINK😭😭 there should be some muscle and robust builds for someone like that not someone who’s organs are stored in his forearms and his ribcage not being existent? Holy shit. Husker too. He should at LEAST have a beer belly and at most having a full on chubby (and probably fluffy in that case) dad bod It really makes me thing that Vivziepop makes character designs for which are the most convenient to her and her team to draw rather than any actual passion towards her characters at all. Which might not be the case but she surely knows how to make an impression.

I adore the shows viv has made but SO MUCH can be improved, and you said a lot in the most chill way ever and I love you for that dude, everything about this video is so therapeutic despite it being a rant

I've always complained when a company interferes with a creator's artistic freedom, but in this case they should have given vivi less creative control. She only did the series of her dreams when she was12 years, the problem? she was 12 years old, she never thought about polishing anything she did when she had the mentality of a goblin, in fact it even got worse like the retcon of vaggie being an angel.

I miss her old style honestly, she used a lot of different colors and actually made her characters have diversity in body shapes, not to mention how expressive it was. I find when the show came out all the characters were simplified down from her old style to a more production friendly style, and tbh helluva boss actually seems to have more character diversity than hazbin

So first of all that thumbnail caught my eye because lmao. And second of all if you think both shows are obsessed with twinks you'd be right aside from the designs, all twink characters are shown as appealing and seductive, angel dust is a corn star, and there's this guy called chaz that is good in bed as the show loves to imply and lots more, they're usually overly flirty giving bedroom eyes to the camera and characters, making innuendos and all that stuff, there was an episode where one of the girl imp assassin disguised herself as a boy and wouldn't you know it everyone was telling her how hot and amazing she is while in the disguise. So for context me and my boyfriend really like muscular men we both stopped watching helluvaboss because we got turned off when muscular background characters most of them are portrayed as rude jerks, and not only that but they also usually gets slaughtered in the most gruesome ways by the hot topic squad (main cast) but when a twink dies like chaz i mentioned earlier, it's suddenly off screen, the story is good but not good enough for us to keep watching if it means more twink worship and buff dudes dead.

I think that the characters are so skinny because Hell is supposed to be at least a little scary, so with more sharp angles, and using the fact that skinny build is used a lot in horror characters, they can achieve that but making in subtle enough to where the characters don't look straightforwardly horror-scary. Oh and before you mention the plot plz watch the show. Or don't because apparently the simple cartoony art style is too much. And don't mention character creativity if you don't know their story and/or personality.

Help I love your characters so much i got *so* interested in the speedpaints

These shows are supposed to be for adults but the way she's having them made for is teenagers specifically edgy teenagers who learned about adult stuff & Viv doesnt even try to truly make it clear the humor and anything is fitting for not these teens.

Okay I´ll gotta be honest. lets start with the first point of that video. Color pallets. Yeah you are right that they seem to have all the same Color pallet, but this doesnt necessarily need to be bad. because it kinda makes sense that most characters have red in there, it takes places in Hell afterall, and the color pallet guessing game, doesnt tell how good character design is. a character could have the exact same color pallet like Peter Griffin, and people would still say it is peter griffin bc he`s known more. besides i can debunk your statement that you cant do the same with Hazbin Hotel, because if you know the characters, you could tell them appart by those color pallets, upper left is Alastor, lower left is nifty, lower Right is charlie, okay upper right is a bit tricky, but my guess is Husk. Color pallet is important indeed, but much more when it comes to esthetics and the world the characters are set in. if we are talking about unique characters, sillhouette is much more important, and vivziepop does quite a good job when it come to those. the only thing I 100000% agree on from this video is that there isnt enough variation when it comes to body type. but other than that i think she does a pretty good job. This is really simply just criticism, or much rather my take on this. nice video, still liked.

I agree with the body diversity and using just a little more green and blue but the only thing is that all of these characters are set in hell and if you look more at the angels in hasben hotel they are a lot more but still very chill rant

literally almost all of them look like they were made in one of those paper doll flash games or in picrew with the same body base and like maybe 6 torso and leg variants. the majority are the exact same tall legs, tiny torso, long arms, big hands, shoujo slenderman build. and it wouldn't even bother me as much if they drew EVERYONE like that, but no, there are members of the supporting cast who have thicker legs and more meaty bodies. so why can't she do any of that for the main cast? is it bias? is it unwillingness to actually use body shape language in a meaningful way? what's going on? imo it kind of aligns with how the characters are written, too. in a vacuum. not to be in a story, not to be around people, not to react, not to interact with things. a bunch of cool and edgy ideas slapped on a base, then made to have a bunch of funny one-liners and the occasional angsty backstory drop.

Cohesive colours are good but its super easy to slip into the habit of using the same 3 colours 😭 ive slipped into it by accident and now im working hard to get out

Hazbin and Helluva are the shows that when I watch it, I am not very proud. the show makes me uncomfortable or overwhelmed because its either too much red or when you see heaven (her portrayal) it's just blues and purple. as for uncomfartable, it constantly has sexual themes that it just rubs me the wrong way, soo if I watch it I have to skip a lot, that I just gave up on the shows as a whole

i love ur art omg

tbh my worst beef with hazbin is how it romanticizes SA (also whats up with vizie hating lackadaisy? girlie....)

When I saw hazbin hotel, I was blinded by al the red and pink colors (yeah yada yada they're in hell IDGAF) Its visually blinding and I had to pause every single to see the background characters.

Viv does need to chill on the red for HH

I would like to politely disagree. I personally have not seen the show, only a few clips from edits and such. But I do know that there is a reason why Vivzipop chose to use a strict color palette and shape language! The red characters that you have been talking about are in h3ll. They have darker colors, and are desaturated besides the bright reds and magentas. However, the other main ppl (the antagonists im pretty sure) are angels, they are in heaven. The angels use more light colors and blues and purples. They also have much more soft and round shape language! The reds and blues are easy to distinguish and can therefore portray clearly and aesthetically, the two different sides. There is a reason the characters are designed that way, the designers know what they are doing, it was not a mistake. Also, the characters are not meant to be distinguished by color or shape. They are distinguished by body language which I find really interesting as a beginner animator myself. I can see why you wouldn’t know that because you haven’t watched it, but the characters can easily be told apart simply by how they move and interact with others. At least that is my opinion from the little I have seen from the show. I haven’t watched it since I know the plot is messy and I also just don’t agree with some of the messages in the film, but I have nothing against the art. Plus, even if you don’t enjoy the art, that doesn’t mean others can’t! Vivzipop has chosen to express their characters in their own unique style! There is nothing wrong with that. And I have a question, why does someone’s artstyle make you hate them? There are artists whose artstyle I dont like, but that isn’t a reason for me to hate the artist themself…. So I don’t really understand that bit, could you elaborate more on that?

521 subs!? Bro you are so underrated…❤

Not related to the video but your art style is so COOL!!!!!! Very pleasing to the eyes =]

I don't know why but the fact that everyone is in a suit just....bugs me so much. So many characters, from so many decades, some demons, some literal concepts from the 7 deadly sins, but sooo many of them are in suits. As an animation student I just can't.

Its insane to me how I’ve seen roblox games have more diversity than hazbin hotel 😭

personally idc about diversity or that the characters all look the same. like not that i dont find it good to have diverse characters (talking abt helluva) but the show is eally good and im all the way up to apology tour (so basically the most recent episode) anywho beside that hazbin has a really good storyline AND its a bittt more color inclusive. anyways great video keep it up

great take and great art!?!? good job op

I personally love the art style itself but I can understand why someone dislikes it

my little unfocused multitasking brain tweaking cause im trying to focus on the voice instead of the guitar

Also, I didn’t recognize the Peter griffin but every Hazbin character

I enjoy your artstyle!

Awesome take 10/10 would watch again

The thing that frustrates me the most about viv’s color palette is how the lack of diversity also harms the characters. There’s a channel on RU-vid by the name of art at midnight who does analysis videos on movies and tv shows, more specifically about a character’s outfits or color palettes and how they’re essential in their stories/arcs. But when you look at viv’s characters, they don’t have a distinct color, it’s all the same. It doesn’t say much about their personality it’s just reds reds and reds and maybe if we’re lucky, there’s a small smudge of blue. Like is she allergic to the ocean or something?? Does she hate winter?? Like girl you aren’t gonna die if you use blues or purples for your characters.

I'm not 100% sure about this but i read somewhere that the characters (for the most part) have the same pallette or have colors that fits the ring they're from. its pretty obvious if you look at characters like glitz&glam, they're from the envy ring and we often see fish demons there. Ozzie is from lust ring, hence why he is blue. Mammon is green, and that's the greed ring. Imps are pretty much red anyways but hellborns have pretty recognizeable featured depending on where they're born and where their parents were from.I've watched all of helluva boss and hazbin and I do believe we will se more diverse character designs once the universe expands. Both Helluva and Hazbin is centered in the pride ring so no wonder we havent seen that much diversity in color palette

This man has the most calming lullaby like voice that can put even an insomniac to sleep but still calls this an "absolutely unhinged rant." Like, my guy, how does one sound so angry but so calming at the same time, subscribed :)

I seen the video and while i do think most of his criticisms are valid. I can't be the only one who finds this very "mean spirited" right? Now i haven't seen the shows either so of course my opinion probably doesn't matter but most of the comments just seems very harsh and not in the "critique" matter but just in general. Again nothing's wrong with criticism and i am in no means trying to 'defend' anyone but again I'm just taken back by most of his comments on vivziepop and is just like "well geez dude."

Hazbin hotel is a decent show. Comedy is not the best, soundtrack is fire though, and the character writing is also decent. But my biggest gripe is definitely the color pallets. It is so red I actually have trouble watching the show

Fizzarolli, Ozzie, Andrealphus, Glitz & Glam, Robo Fizz, Mammon, Chaz and Stolas at 6:58: So what the fuck am I?

did you make hte thomas jefferson miku binder thing

as a guy curently making concepts for my own comic i even try to add diversity in non eurocentric features. it will be harder since all of the characters are anthro charaters but i still try

prob weird but i like the art style, but i do feel like a lot of it feels samey kind of a shame a lotta ppl are so harsh to it instead of actually giving proper critique, u have good insight even tho i dont 100% agree

2:24, 7:52 The colour pallets is to keep matching with hell it’s intentional so it’s hard to find anyone who doesn’t have read in their design because their demons. Heaven follows the same but with whites and golds. They do some variation with the colour pallets as well. 4:40 ima agree they need more body types :”)

My opinion I love the character even if it’s twinkified it’s still great character and personally I love red and reddish pink😭 and I’m not an theatre kid but I lowkey love the song

Vivziepop is just… really bad at making art. Like both drawing and writing. For HB and HH, the plot and humor and art style are all just so bad and plain ugly. It’s especially pathetic because Vivzie has been this way for SO long, she’s been artistically stunted and hasn’t improved for years. I started watching/reading her stuff 5 years ago and it legit hasn’t gotten better since then, might even say it got worse.

I do agree with you when it comes to the art, It's honestly kind of sad cause I love the characters and character ideas And the whole plot of the shows are actually pretty well Made And I don't think the show is horribly written BUT GOD She literally can't use anything but red and pink- Like Alastor is supposed to be mixed race? I love Alastor he is my favorite character but like You cannot tell me there is any black in that character- He looks like he was a basic white boy And he has had like 15 years of character development! ???????? If they improved their art it would have been so much better 😭💀

I felt a little offended asking why I like this show, but you have fair points. Vivzipop’s designs and diversity suck. She could have done better. I wish she did. I will enjoy my delusions where she did do better lmao

This was a good video and you raised fair points.

I'm fine with opinions don't hate me for saying any of this Color: depends on the ring they're from (and how they died sometimes) because if you look at someone from a different ring they're not gonna be just the same colors and the main cast are all from the same rings Body-Shapes: Viv is not good at animating other body shapes but recently has tried making different shapes lately for respect Is The Show Rushed: Yes It Is Saying who let her have a show: Very disrespectful (I'm Fine With Opinion) considering how long she's been tryna make hazbin and people overlook a lot of good parts about the show but it's fine because you haven't watched neither or the shows and i know you we're tryna be rude I Am Not A Crazy Fan Or Anything i Honestly Give The Show Hazbin A 7/10 Because It has It's Flaws Which Is Normal And Helluva Boss 8/10 Because It Is More Well-Written And Less Rushed

idk if you got other comments of this, but lavendertowne's replacement hazbin redesign video, she mentioned as like quick text popups ; why all the fans saying in her og video "it's meant to be red, they are in the pride ring and in helluva boss, all the 7 rings of hell have different colors and whoever is from what ring matches the color of the background" feels like reverse engineering lore to avoid criticism (but in helluva boss, the greed and lust rings aren't JUST red and black, but still tons of characters blend in [mammon, verosicka, asmodeus, chaz) the replacement vid ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CjrPAnnXs5U.html basically the criticism of the og vid ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VoCFQcSxUPk.html

Oh boy.. Listen I understand if you wanna complain about plot or pacing or anything related to that but the artstyle complains lowkey sound like whining... Personally I don't think it's an obligation to have body diversity and you can't really be talking about body diversity and different body types when you have three dudes that have sort of the same bodytype Sorry if this sounded rude but it's just weird to me idk

how does bro make a rant so majestic with the guitar

new sub bro good content

you draw people so goobly

Unhinged is right, everyone has their own opinions on things and that’s fine. But don’t go ripping on someone else’s work without even putting forth the effort to give it a fair shake by watching more than one episode. The Hella verse grew over an insane period of time as a passion project supported grass roots style by the fan base. You don’t like the color pallets that’s fine it’s not your cup of tea, but it being hell is absolutely a valid rebuttal for this. Ever since color was an option for film red overtones and pallets have been used for hellscapes, and dystopian environments, not just in animation. Not everything has to be a dang rainbow, it’s hell it’s supposed to be dirty, grungy, and ugly. It helps it stand out and gives a jarring contrast between hell, earth, and heaven. It’s like the Wizard of OZ effect, going from black and white to full color. Your art is beautiful, but based on the three main examples in your video you don’t have much shape diversity either they all look the same body type wise. Their personal color pallets being the only major differences I see. To me this whole video came off as just a jealous rant that left a bad taste in my mouth. You think you can do better than Vivzipop? Then do it put in the effort to develop your own world, cast of character, story line, songs and voice actors. You think they just gave her a show out of the goodness of their hearts? No she worked her ass off to get the chance she did to get the deal she did. She likely pitched her work and was rejected so many times it would make your head spin before her show was finally picked up. I clicked this video thinking I’d get an honest well thought out critique along with the beautiful art to look at. Instead I got a weirdly entitled sounding rant with no actual supporting evidence to go with it. It actually took from my enjoyment of your art, because now I was looking at it through the lens that you yourself were using. It made them boring and dull to look at, but whatever. I like your style it’s got a very comic bookie Archer feel to it which I like. I hope you keep at it and continue developing your own personal style. As far as your critiques go for things? Do better I know you can.

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