"My Lectric XPeak High Step Wobble GONE" 

I just bought the XPEAK and I am going through this issue . Did this fix the wobble ?

I actually had somebody comment that said they have two Step-Tru XPeaks and they did my fix and they said it work great no wobble at all now

Well, you gotta understand from a company aspect 1st you have to admit there’s a problem.then your liable 😀 Thanks for watching

So did they send you one?

@@kristirudolph7504 They didn't. Instead they sent me saddlebags.

Yea i have noticed this too, with flat out. It can really depend on the tires. If they have a lightweight side wall, its easier for them to wobble it seems. But if you have good tires, you shouldn’t feel the flat out. For example I had a lot of problems with flat out in Vee speedsters, but Arisun Big Snoothy 26 work fine. Make sure its the sportsman formula, its more runny, The multi purpose stuff is more clumpy.

Did you change your name? If you did I really like it

@seniorebikenation I used to be Gary’s DIY adventures but I changed it to Garys E bike adventures along time ago.

@@GarysE-BikeAdventures your answer says @EBikeBuilder Just wondered

@@ebikeandadventures no, that’s another creator 😀

@@sidsteverson1005 the only problem is you might have a hard time finding the bearing Wired bikes has bought up everyone they could buy, but try on Amazon. I’ve had luck on there

I would imagine they’re going to have to do something. The problem does exist. That’s why I tried to find a solution that was an off the shelf solution I have emailed my contact there and they do watch my videos so they are aware of what’s going on. Other than the wobble, the thing is an awesome bike.

I’m trying real hard, Quinton 😁

he is

So i have the same bike as you and with no dampener installed ...I have a basket / rack on the back and I ride with my spare battery in the basket and a small messenger bag filled with stuff . I have a really dangerous wobble like this . I cant ride with no hands because i have to be planted on the seat and hands gripping the handlebar for dear life . one bump while riding will completely throw all the balance of the bike off and this thing becomes so dangerous to ride within a split second it goes wild wobbling . I would like you to try riding at speed and shaking the handlebars left and right a couple inches . If I do this right now my bike goes into a violent death wobble . Please try this out and let me know if there is any wobble with the part you had installed . Ride at speed and shake the handlebars left and right and i think this would be a good test to see if this product works . Sorry for a long winded comment but I dont know what to do at this point . I wanted to get rid of the bike because of this issue but i cant sell this thing to someone knowing they are going to eat %$#@ riding it . the wobble is so bad on these lectric stepthrough xpeaks that ive been questioning the integrity of the welding at the bottom of the frame because eventually that wobble is going to keep testing that weld and its going to weaken and break and if that happens at speed then lectric lawsuit comes into play . How did this get past their R&D team ? LOL WHO SIGNED OFF ON THIS BIKE TO BE SOLD LIKE THIS ?

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@@CMS-THEQUAD I bought the whole assembly on Amazon, upper and lower and put the whole thing in the bearings on these bikes are awful. The top bearings are just loose ball bearings at least the bottom one has a little bit of a sleeve, but I can tell you they’re not waterproof. They’re actually the same inside the wheels just loose ball bearings with barely any grease on them.

I am actually in contact with Lectric. and you can put any handlebars you want on it with the set up

So many good choices out there, great to have options.

@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Thanks for your response, Gary. Is Lectric committed to adding the required part needed on the XPeak from this point forward to be able to fix/stop the wobble?

@@_80210 not sure their claiming the complaints are minimal for the amount of bikes sent out.

@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Thanks, Gary. I've seen enough of the wobble issue from others here on RU-vid for me to pause and give hesitation. I'm going to look more into the Wired Freedom and the soon to be released ECell Five Star. Both have bigger batteries, bigger motors, duel suspension and from what I can tell, no documented wobble issues. Thanks again. I really enjoy your informative videos!

As many people that want to see it, I have twice as many that don’t want to see it. I used to do very detailed installations and would get criticized all the time. But I’m more than happy to help people if they ask.

Awesome I’m so happy to hear I couldn’t convince Lectric to send me a used step-through so I could try it. I’d like it shot it fixing the pedal problem too. Again awesome guy. I’m going to shut it out to as many people as I can. Thank you for letting me know.

Where is the link where you bought the headset?

I got rid of my chain ring & chain & bought a new pair of diamond cut crank arms hanging down with the cadence sensor disconnected. The saddle is as low as it goes & I ride it as a slow speed motorcycle with no problem. It's a fat tire 20" folding bike & at my age, I got a block & a half with pedaling only so what's the point of ghost pedaling & your feet will hit the ground on 1 side at least I would think.

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I would rather have a step through, but I ordered this in a step over because they all flex I was hoping with the mountain bike rating that it wouldn’t, but I knew in my heart that it would I have five step throughs they all have the same problem with the flex not wobbling though one did have a wobble, but I put a steering damper for a motorcycle on it I think this is a much better fix than having that ugly thing on the bike

​@@GarysE-BikeAdventures flex, sure. I'd expect some too. the xpeak seems to resonate though... with the frame vibration just building on top of itself making tiny vibrations become much larger and extend for a longer time. mimicking speed wobble. a headset damper might kill the resonance. might not. Will be interesting to see for those willing to test. i don't see enough qualities in the step thru xpeak to want to hold on to it that hard vs return it. and it still will have front wheel clearance issues that would require playing with the fender to deal with on top of whatever remaining flex issues even if the damper gets wobble under control. I'd rather cut my losses and get a better designed bike that can do what it's advertised to do and what i need it to do.

@@cellsafemode good points, while i applaud 👏 the fix Gary has found- i still think…. You shouldn’t have to buy a 100usd headset to fix a design flaw of the bike. Lectric should be thanking Gary for doing their testing for them! I would be interested to see if it fixes the wobble on the step through. I don’t think lectric is going to put a 100usd headset on the bike anytime soon though, maybe they should R&D their own anti wobble headset. Or just design a non wobbling bike in the first placewould be best. But I’m glad that headset solved the problem and Gary is able to ride his bike.

@@AJF4Me strange maybe they’re trying to fool everybody into buying this one because they don’t have the other one in stock anywhere

@@mauriceoneill-thequietstor4535 this is the top bearing. This is the one you need to stop the wobble. The other one is a whole set, but you don’t need the whole set. This will do the job and it looks like you get it early August or you could even pay extra to have it shipped in July. amzn.to/3So1W6B

@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Ordered. Gary, thank you so much for the quick response. I like the bike and want my wife to be able to ride it as well.

@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Hi Gary, I fitted the hellbender and it didn't work. Have adjusted tire pressure, locked suspension. Still have a wobble. So annoying. One question I used the factory setting for the hellbender shims. Did you? Also noticed when I hold the front brake on and rock the bike there is a little movement in the upper bearing cap (the piece that fits directly onto the bearing). I wonder if the bottom bearing is allowing this play?

@@mauriceoneill-thequietstor4535 if it’s rocking, you definitely have playing it. You either need to tighten it down more or it could be something with the bottom bearing I put the pair in. Just one question and I don’t even think you could put it in without doing it. You moved the race on the top right.

@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Thanks again, Gary. The wobble remains serious. The bottom bearing is a noticeably bigger diameter that the upper and therein I believe lies the problem. The shake is insane and can come at speed after a bump or when staring to peddle. I have taken the baskets off and the violent wobble disappears. However there is a minute quiver that doesn't appear to develop any more severe. It is strange one. I will order the bottom bearing and let you know how it goes. BTW did you adjust the shims at all or just used the factory setting for the hellbender? Regards Maurice.

@@jtjohnston1970 I did install both, but you don’t need to to cure the wobble problem. Just put it in because it’s a much better bearing.

the box i was sent, doesn't feel rated to contain an ebike. it's not double thick cardboard like most ebike boxes. no handles either. fedex is not going to baby this thing packaged in this box like it is. i fully expect this to fall over on its side and be man handled... and definitely taking damage on the way back. but that's on lectric. my stuff is photographed and packaged as well as it could be given what they provided.

@@AlexJTastic unfortunately the step-through are worse the step over would be a better choice

@@AlexJTastic if you would please, can you use my code when you buy it it doesn’t cost you anything, but it gets me credit with the company lectricebikes.sjv.io/oq6rvn

The bearing is super easy to put in, but which are you getting the step over or the step through

@@GarysE-BikeAdventures step over i like more and think it’s will handle better in wooded trails and rough terrain

@@robertcarazo8839 you will be absolutely fine then If you end up buying it, this doesn’t affect you at all, Would you please use my link? It helps out my channel. lectricebikes.sjv.io/oq6rvn thanks in advance

I have an XPedition also and put probably 30 pounds on the back of that and I’ve never had a problem, but I also don’t have the factory forks on it. I have a suspension fork on it.

Was just wondering if the cargo bike wobbled. Thanks for the answer.

Dumb question, but have you checked the head nut on that make sure it’s tight because those things are notorious for being loose and if it was loose, you could’ve lost bearings because the bearings just float in there

I believe if you only put the top bearing in, which is the one you need it is the same one, but I’m not 100% positive. I just know that it’s extremely similar. I had both those bikes apart before the bottom bearing definitely is not as the XPeak as tapered fork it’s available on Amazon. You can always return it if it’s not the right one.

@@GarysE-BikeAdventures any slim chance you can find the time to provide me with the top size and bottom size measurements on the Xpedition? So, that I can work with Cane Creek and bike mechanic on getting the right parts. I don’t have the capabilities, calipers or know how in measuring the post inner dimensions. I’d greatly appreciate the short cut if you are able ✌️

@@tonyvpounds32 Tony I would have to disassemble the fork area to do that. But I can tell you I’m pretty much sure it’s the same top as the XPeak but Lectric uses ball bearings just free floating, but I did replace mine with this set on Amazon amzn.to/3Q70zb3 maybe that will help you. Fork is 1”1/8 straight tube. Hope this helps

@@GarysE-BikeAdventures I appreciate you taking the time for reply and attachment links. Thank you!

No, you do not have to ride around with the extra weight. I was just trying to prove the point that it could take the weight that was what was initiating the problem. in the rims on this bike are not tubeless so tubes are required

No, the XPeak has a tapered fork the one on the XPremium is straight i’m sure if you called Cane Creek could probably get you the right one.

My emails in my description if you want to send me some information I’ll look into it

I had the forks unlocked there $400 forks I’m not gonna lock them out 😁 thanks for watching

Me either..I love this bike and wanna keep the baskets on my highstep as I carry my yeti cooler bag with water and lunch to work that weighs around 15 or more lb..I just put up with the wobble...thanks, for everything

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I'm confused. Is this link for the visco headset? Nowhere does it say visco on the headset or in the description.

@@webesailingaway sorry about the confusion I didn’t post a link I figured people would ask and I would give it to them www.amazon.com/dp/B01EIR0WBM/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_M72VMH0HWDZN2WWNSQ8G?linkCode=ml2&tag=garywebster-20

@@Douglas-Prime-hb2yx not really understanding what you’re asking it’s a suspension fork

No shock fork on front with a "450 lb" capacity??​@@GarysE-BikeAdventures

I've never ridden an Xpedition. Elsewhere i have read people complaining every piece of minor road debris hit is transmitted to handlebars as relatively profound. I also know there's not a "450 lb" motorcycle made that doesn't have front Shocks. So now, as one guy described it, a "death wobble" at 20mph+, and a shocks-less front end, to-boot. That' what I was asking. You seem to imply at slower speeds the wobble is not a factor. >>> 🆗️ @GarysE-BikeAdventures

@@Douglas-Prime-hb2yx i’ve never incurred a wobble on the XPedition and the front fork works out great on it. They come when they rigid fork but I did put a suspension fork on it.

Great. What fork did you put on it?

Like I said, I’ve never experienced the wobble on that bike. The guy may have a loose headset those bikes were notorious for having them too loose. I’ve had mine apart so many times I know it’s fine. 😀 it’s honestly one of my favorite bikes. It’s definitely my favorite 20 inch bike.

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I guess it depends on the weight you’re carrying, people have told me they’re running both baskets and have no problem. The only time I had a problem was when I had some good weight on the bike, but I have not experienced it since putting this on, but I have not run the front basket since I do run the rear. Hope this helps.

@@GarysE-BikeAdventures I already bought this bike and wondering if you think I should return?

If you have the step over, you may not have the problem at all and many people with the step through. Don’t experience the problem. Most of it is because of weight on the baskets. And quite honestly, you won’t even feel the wobble unless you ride with no hands on the handlebar.

​@@GarysE-BikeAdventures I do use the back racket, so thats important to me, this delayed me getting this ebike, sadly..

@@joellee6142 I do use the back rack but I was getting a wobble with 18 pounds on it before. now I put quite a bit on it and I get no wobble at all with the hellbender again not a problem if you have your hands on the handlebars with the step over.

I called lectric and they reimbursed me for the part and labor. Just had to send the receipt

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@@GarysE-BikeAdventuresThanks, my XPeak High Step is coming this Thursday. Definitely going to look into this upgrade.

So to tell you the truth, I talk with creators all the time. I’m not in a position where they’re giving me bikes yet I can get a discount usually about 30%. so I was going to buy it but I didn’t know what it was when I saw it this morning I said a 20 inch bike from electric for over $2000 I’ll pass I don’t care if it’s got a belt drive or not. What happens if your ghost peddling with the belt drive you’re stuck in their world at that point Lectric is entry-level bikes I don’t think anybody that wants to spend $2200 or if you get the long long range batteries probably gonna be in the $2500 range maybe they put it out in a 24 inch bike that would’ve made it more interesting.

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@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Thanks Gary!

They are heavy, those generic Chinese cells, i think the 52V 20ah upp batteries weigh more!! than my 72V 20AH with the big 21700 samsung 40t3 cells

That’s what it is

OK Thanks

Gary, how much should it cost for parts and labor approximately?

@@dancuarta the part is about a hundred dollars not really sure what they charge for labor, took me less than an hour to do

Unfortunately, they would not send me a step through so that I could try it on. So I have no idea if it’ll cure it on that, I am being told by other people that it does work. I wish you luck, my friend. It’s pretty easy to put in.

ok i slow down the video and realized that the grates were crisscross so no tires could fit in. however i do remember when they were like that, very dangerous .

@@GarysE-BikeAdventures appreciate that, thank you

@@tw5315 actually Lectric was very glad I found an answer I’m actually going to there unveil the first week of October their paying to fly me out and paying for my hotel. I’m gonna get to tour their facility and ride the two bikes that they are introducing for next spring. And I believe they have been working with customers that had a problem.

I was waiting to see if it will work on the stepthru. Thanks for posting. We are waiting for the box to return it.

Yeah you’re probably right the website had said 8 pounds that’s why I got the thing from in the beginning so when it came in at 6.5 I didn’t question it

Charlie C, this is not that kind of channel. I glad Gary took the time to prove his point!

Honestly, it’s a really nice bike for the money, and it seems that the only ones criticizing the bike are the ones that never had a chance to try it