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@sgtmajtrapp3391
@sgtmajtrapp3391 Год назад
The 5" Model 41 S&W .22 was the most accurate pistol I've ever owned or fired.
@davidkachel
@davidkachel Год назад
Same here.
@DeereX748
@DeereX748 Год назад
I have a 7" M41 and feel the same way. Having a number of '70's era S&W revolvers, I agree with Mr. Funk about the quality of the SA trigger pull he has on his M18. My M41's trigger is every bit as good as that, and the long sight radius adds to the precision available. I routinely get 1-1/2" groups at 15 yards, standing freehand. I'll have to try a few from a sand bag.
@frankbrowning328
@frankbrowning328 Год назад
I've got a 7'' model 41 and its the most accurate handgun I've ever shot. It shoots better than most people can hold it
@tomallen6073
@tomallen6073 Год назад
I’ve shot several, really drives tacks, I would call them the Cadillac of .22’s. I used to shoot bullseye matches weekly and have shoot many different.22 handguns including some of the high end euro imports and of all them the 41 is tops followed by the top high standard models.
@danbyers8462
@danbyers8462 Год назад
M&P shows the quality put in, not taking anything away from the others which have great reputations. Love videos like this HR! Great job!
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thanks Dan!
@Chris_the_Dingo
@Chris_the_Dingo Год назад
Nice! The most accurate .22 handgun I ever shot is my dad's old S&W K22 Masterpiece. That thing is insanely accurate. My brother has it now, since my dad passed away, so its still in the family.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
I wish I could find one of those for anything resembling a sane price!
@davidhamilton7628
@davidhamilton7628 Год назад
My grandfather had one with a long eye relief scope on it my cousin has it scene he passed
@doranmaxwell1755
@doranmaxwell1755 Год назад
Good for you.. keep it in the family I have a 1936 outdoorsman which is what they called the K22 before it was one. It goes with me most trips out shooting. I know that guys who claim to love the 44 mags I bring will end up shooting the little gun before the day it over. in actual testing best I could... the K22/outdoorsman will hold its own with about anything. couple of friends have older olympic grade 22 pistols that will of course beat it but... not by that much! At one time Smith claimed the outdoorsman or K22 would shoot 2" groups at 50 yards. not sure that is true and I can't do it but I can hit a soda can terrorist at 50 yard more often than not. When they shoot it people always say.."this thing was made in 1936?"
@doranmaxwell1755
@doranmaxwell1755 Год назад
@@hrfunk Any really cool guns I have that people think I paid a fortune for? they pretty much fell into my lap for one reason or another I paid $60 for my K22/outdoorsman his dad died and he just wanted cash. I even told him it was worth way more... The lie was.. I told him 'but not to me' My Python? buddy got it with about 10 other handguns for $400 each from a guy who inherited em and the gun store was lowballing him. Buddy brought it over and it would not even unlatch... he asked me to fix it. Who could put a sideplate on wrong? someone had ten minutes work and one new screw fixed it. 98% mint. Told the guy I wanted it. I had saved his butt at work a time or two and he said.. 'just keep it" I gave him the $400 he had paid but could have had it for free. Like you I am a table top gunsmith probly know less than you.. friends and friends of friends will bring me guns to look at. Some are way past my pay grade but some are pretty simple.. I never charge anyone but I will tell em 'the part is $100 say.. show em on the puter. they don't even want the gun anyway so say.. "give me $200 and it is yours" at this point I am glad to be between wives! LOL.. at 73 I may almost be done with that anyway LOL
@indycharlie
@indycharlie Год назад
This is an absolutely great idea ! I am also , soooo glad you are going to use a bench and rest during these . I " used " to watch a guy here on YT that would " freehand " all the " accuracy " video's he did . Drove me nuts . And he is a X military guy ?! There is a reason the USMC , Army and the services use rest when " zeroing " your weapon in MC Boot or BCT . Anyway , can't wait for the rest of this series . I am also shocked the M&P won !!
@notsosilentmajority1
@notsosilentmajority1 Год назад
Doing this video with only one type of ammo and calling it a "one and done" was a great idea. You're right, multiple ammo brands would have been longer and may have caused different scenarios based on the ammo, etc.. Of course, that also increases the chance of human error. Great job, more of these types of videos would be a good idea. BTW, although it wasn't my favorite firearm used in the competition, I chose the M&P simply because it was newer and probably had less rounds through it. Yes, I know that you can't simply go by that but for some reason that's what seemed right and that's how it turned out.
@PPISAFETY
@PPISAFETY Год назад
Back in the 80's and 90's, I shot on the police department pistol team. We competed in both PPC and indoor Bullseye competition. Bullseye was all shot at 25 yards, and we had a rimfire event and a centerfire match each month. Initially the league rules only allowed revolvers, so like most other guys, I shot a K-38 and a K-22 which were both fine revolvers. The biggest challenge was the rapid fire event, having to thumb cock the pistol and get off five shots in 10 seconds offhand while still holding the shots in the black. I credit the discipline instilled by this competition with improving all my other shooting. But in the mid-90's the league rules changed to allow semi-automatic pistols. In centerfire, I went with a Colt Gold Cup to avoid having to thumb cock the gun, and to take advantage of the larger hole punched by the .45 ACP, which would often break a scoring line on the target and pick up a point or two. But then I went on the hunt for a decent .22 automatic for the rimfire match. I started out with a Ruger MK II Target with the 5.5 inch bull barrel. It wasn't bad, but the stock trigger made it hard to do really well with. I then went with the Model 41 Smith and Wesson with the long barrel. It was the most accurate .22 I had ever fired, before or since. The problem was that mine was finicky about ammo, and steadfastly refused to feed/fire anything other than CCI Green Tag, which I couldn't always get. I finally went back to a Ruger, which was a .22/45 model with a Volquartsen match trigger. If I did my part, that gun would stay in the 10 ring at 25 yards. It liked Federal Gold Medal Match, but oddly enough also liked super cheap Winchester Wildcat. Go figure. My favorite non-match .22 was a thoroughly disreputable looking S&W Model 18 that came to me in a trade for $150. It had been treated to an awful re-bluing job, but man, that revolver would shoot. I used it to keep down the crow population in my neighbor's vineyard. Shots at 40 and 50 yards were absolutely no problem, but a crow is a tough bird, so pretty soon I went with an old Model 15 loaded with wadcutters for my pest control chores.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
It is just extremely cool to make long, accurate shots with a handgun! By the way, I have found that Winchester wildcat ammunition to be fairly accurate as well.
@tomahawk1911
@tomahawk1911 Год назад
Good video Mr. Funk. Totally agree on the best iron sight shape, square rear notch, sharp corners on the front.
@ctsnider88
@ctsnider88 Год назад
I hope you keep this series going. It is eye-opening.
@mywrkout1
@mywrkout1 Год назад
Really enjoyed this! Looking forward to the series. As in this video,sometimes we are really surprised at what a particular firearm can do. Thank you H.R.
@marcjacobs423
@marcjacobs423 Год назад
Very interesting, these comparisons ! Looking forward to a future lever action's chapter and also the 45Colt handguns.
@dorisjohnson8857
@dorisjohnson8857 Год назад
Enjoyed this test very much. My best target .22 pistol is a Ruger stainless MkII 6 1/2 " slab-sided barrel. It will do 1" at 25 yrds off the bench, also with Wolf ammo. Look forward to many more of these tests. DJ
@kentuckybowl-o-sticks
@kentuckybowl-o-sticks Год назад
I CANNOT BELIEVE you're using the Wolf ammo! I was going to post a comment recommending that people try it, with the caveat that every setup is different (even my bipod front-to-back location seems to play a part), and thus may yield different results. Note that I've only used the Wolf Match EXTRA which, based on pricing, is a step up from the Match TARGET. In my Ruger Precision bolt-action, it beats EVERYTHING, including all the Eley I've tried (though I haven't tried ALL the Eley), up to and including two varieties of Tenex (which is STRANGE, since the Wolf is PRODUCED by Eley!), a few varieties of Lapua (though Polar Biathlon came close), etc. One likely competitor that I HAVEN'T tried is the Lapua X-ACT which, based on PRICING ALONE (MSRP over $40/50, but should be available for $30/box) , had better be the BEST, since the Wolf can be had for 1/3 the price!
@B_R_
@B_R_ Год назад
H&R model 950 22lr is the most accurate handgun I've owned, more so than my m&p 22c and ruger mark II. Made in '82, 5.5" barrel. The sights are big and easy to see and the da/sa trigger is excellent. Everyone who touches it shoots it well, which makes for a fun/good experience for every level of shooter. It's balanced just right and easy to hold steady on target.
@roykiefer7713
@roykiefer7713 Год назад
Howard, I am going to LOVE this series . . . thank you, and I urge you to produce similar videos. I, too, was amazed with the M&P’s accuracy, although my M&P 1.0 9mm 4.25 inch barrel police model has consistently been a surprisingly accurate (in comparison to other polymer / striker autoloaders). I’d add a quick word for the Smith M18; I own a 1947 or ‘48 S&W K14 Target Masterpiece (cambered in .38 Special, with a six inch barrel). It is superbly accurate. Obviously, it predates MIM parts, CNC machining and the other excellent, modern, cost savings innovations. BUT real ARTISANSHIP (imho) supplants all those things. When K Frames left Springfield, Massachusetts, a few decades ago, they generally were both exceptionally high quality and very accurate.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
I wholeheartedly agree. Those were some great old wheelguns. I'm not sure. We'll see you there like again.
@donaldlivingston970
@donaldlivingston970 Год назад
Enjoyed the video. I believe this is a great idea for a video series. Looking forward to seeing more of them. Keep the great videos coming. I like all of them.
@keithtate1241
@keithtate1241 Год назад
Definitely enjoyed your accuracy test and would love to see more. Thanks for the video and have a great afternoon 😊.
@cliftonwhittaker260
@cliftonwhittaker260 4 месяца назад
Yes, I did enjoy this, HR. A good fun day at the range and it made a good video. WMT ammo was a good all around choice, too. I expected that HS Sport King to do better but the sights kind of handicapped it. The Ft. Campbell Pistol Team used HS handguns and so did a lot of other military marksmanship teams. They were hard to beat. I still have my M-18 4" S&W. Don't think I ever shot groups with it but it was death on tin cans and I did in several squirrels and rabbits when I happened to have it with me when the opportunities came up.
@YellowHammer26
@YellowHammer26 Год назад
👍👍Loved the video, this should be a great series. I really like that model 18 and you have a really nice collection of 22 handguns.
@mikereinhardt4807
@mikereinhardt4807 Год назад
Great video! I have my dad's hi standard model B and I know what you mean about the sights. I also have my grand dad's bird's head grip S&W in 22 short and it seems all handguns of those eras have the same rudimentary sights. I guess shooters than were more instinct shooters. At any rate keep them coming and I would most definitely like to see accuracy tests between different category of firearms...
@glenmo1
@glenmo1 Год назад
Wow I love that high standard.. I purchased about 20 years ago a Browning Buckmark .22 lr ..4in barrel .. one of the nicest factory triggers to ever come out... Extremely accurate...
@alfontana6242
@alfontana6242 Год назад
Thanks for you video. The most accurate 22 lr Pistol I own is my 25 + year old Model S&W 41 with the 5 1/2 inch heavy barrel. I have obtained groups well under an inch at 25 yards with low cost 22 LR ammo. I had one lot of 22 lr HV Blazer bulk ammo that would deliver consistent groups well under an inch at 25 yards sometimes just one ragged hole. It is not picky on ammunition and hardly ever jams.
@BrokenBarBox
@BrokenBarBox Год назад
Fantastic test! Yes, I’d love to see more like this
@gw3598
@gw3598 Год назад
Great test I do not own a 22 handgun and was very interested in the results. I would not have guessed the M&P would have won. But I believe your testing criteria was valid. If I buy a 22 I'd strongly consider the M&P as well as a K frame revolver.
@billemond6695
@billemond6695 Год назад
I enjoyed this HR... and I would have bet on the Model 18. Yes, more of these please.
@georgewacaser4559
@georgewacaser4559 Год назад
Heck yeah, more of this series please. Love all my firearms, but have a special affinity for my 22LRs, especially the safe full of pistols and revolvers. In my case my SW model 41 is the one I shoot best.
@TheJoeshExperience
@TheJoeshExperience Год назад
Any time I take someone shooting especially for their first time I take my S&W 422. Always a confidence booster when they can hit the target!
@tomallen6073
@tomallen6073 Год назад
I would’ve not expected that result either, like you I have many .22’s including a colt frontier scout and a high standard. I would’ve put my money on the 22A or high standard. Sights play a large roll. Would really like a S&W 41 but never can justify the expenditure, maybe someday. Good to see other enthusiasts and their collections. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
@rudolfyakich6653
@rudolfyakich6653 Год назад
I would have not laid a bet on the S&W M&P either. I have only owned one rimfire handgun purchased in 1982. The Ruger Single -Six. It's part of my varmint hunting battery. It was originally a 9" barrel. I had cut to 7.5 to make it a perfect fit into a Bianchi flap holster. New sights were installed. The front is a bead that allows for precise alignment. On a central Oregon ranch the landowner asked me to thin out the ground squirrels that had so much burrowing that is fence fell over. The Ruger was warm as I kept it up for two hours. I think 30 yard at the most and down to 10 yards. Still need to watch out for irrigation equipment beyond so not all opportunities were taken. Going to pick up a Ruger LCRx 3" in .22 WMR today at my LGS.
@larkinoo
@larkinoo 10 месяцев назад
I had to watch this vid again Howard. I have been into .22 pitsol { uh, misspelling intended } shooting lately. I have a great old gravel pit on BLM land I can ride my quad out to only 4.5 miles from my driveway. I have literally blanketed the ground there with spent .22 shell casings. All my other various casings come back home with me to get recharged to make the trip to the pit once again. Anyway I wanted to comment on two .22s I have been shooting lately. One is a Browning Buckmark and the other a S&W .22 Victory. I have other .22 pitsols but these are my two favorites. Now I have owned two model 41s in the past but hands down my favorite .22 is the S&W .22 Victory. I like it better than even the 41s I had. I was considering putting one of those " purty " Volquartsen barrels on it but reallized what a wonderful stock barrel I had, so decided to keep it. I did dress it up a bit with some very tasteful bead blasting, a Tandemcross trigger and Halo charging loop, and some LOK grips. OOHHH Howard.......it are purty ! And I think the stock sights are wonderful on that gun. I do have a Burris Fastfire III red dot for it also but I actually do my best shooting with the stock open sights. That .22 is wonderfully accurate !! But I also very much enjoy my Browning Buckmark UDX. It also is a very, very accurate .22. I also put LOK grips on it and dare I say it..........I did the Higgis Flip on the trigger and replaced the guide rod with a better design. Fun gun !!! Fun guns !!! Doug.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk 10 месяцев назад
That sounds great Doug! I’ve been wanting to try a Victory Model for quite a while, but I just haven’t gotten to it yet. I don’t believe I’ve ever shot a Buckmark either, but they seem like very nice handguns. There’s something very relaxing, and just plain fun, about shooting .22s. I probably need to do it more often. Thanks for the comment!
@billhoppe2991
@billhoppe2991 Год назад
I really enjoyed your test. I think we all have fond memories of our first 22. Thanks
@dennisl4000
@dennisl4000 Год назад
Thanks for sharing, the results are interesting for sure. I have never benched my 22s nor tried to pair them with specific ammo. I do find it disappointing that the groups were not tighter at that range and agree that sights can contribute to that. Having put many rounds through my New Frontier , I find it amazingly accurate and at some point put some red nail polish on the front sight to help with the sight picture. I would suspect my S&W 41 is probably my most accurate 22 handgun and is far more accurate than I am. At some point I want to put a MRD on it and do some testing.
@deaconblue949
@deaconblue949 Год назад
Hi Chief! I do like the shooting comparison testing, and I'd love to see you get your hands on a S&W Model 41, a Colt Woodsman Match Target, and a High Standard Victor to do some further testing. I think that you would really enjoy it as well. I own all of those as well as a few others and I really enjoy taking them out and trying them against one another. I put red dots on all of mine as I'm getting older but it's some of the best fun to have on the cheap.
@Ed-ig7fj
@Ed-ig7fj Год назад
Thanks for a fun video. I can't get to the range as often as I'd like (who can?); watching this video is the next best thing. Oh, I was born in 1955, and I learned to shoot in 1966 with a Colt Woodsman and a 1911 re-barreled in .22 cal. Perfect for an 11-year-old boy! --Old Guy
@hawkeyeinthehouse2995
@hawkeyeinthehouse2995 6 месяцев назад
Thank you SIR for a video that's very close to my HEART. I'm a ADVID target shooter of pistols and rifles preferably in 22lr because there are SO MANY really NICE COOL old 22lrs pistols and rifles, so cheap to shoot without busting the BANK. I've got a Hi-Standard Sport King SK100 with a 6.75" barrel, 5.5" S&W model 41, Browning Buck Mark Bullseye/ Silhouette (got both barrels 7.25" & 9.5") and a interesting old single shot Czech target pistol with a 9.5" barrel. Keep up the GOOD WORK PROMOTING THE 2nd AMENDMENT.😉😁👍🙏 I NEED TO DO A 19:27 LIKE YOU DID WITH MY TOYS.😁👍
@ernesthercher5193
@ernesthercher5193 Год назад
I have a HS Victor that is most accurate. I used to shoot at empty 45acp shells at about 20 feet. I hit quite a few. The problem was then finding them in the grass. I finally found one with a perfect hole through the center, still have it.
@samhicks7568
@samhicks7568 Год назад
I enjoyed the video, and I hope you do more. Thanks.
@aaronwilcox6417
@aaronwilcox6417 Год назад
I've got that same HI Standard sporting. It's been in wild places and provided many meals. It's been kinda replaced by an new Ruger MKIV tactical 22/45 with red dot.
@chrislang5659
@chrislang5659 Год назад
Always nice to see what folks shoot the best!
@zogger5281
@zogger5281 Год назад
Nice video! I think the ammo/gun combination (if the gun liked the ammo that was used) is a major factor here. I was surprised the Model 18 did not do better. My 18-2 loves LRN and hates FMJ. My most accurate pistol is my Magnum Research 1911G with a Nelson Custom 22 Converter. Thanks for doing this test!
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
@007twm
@007twm Год назад
Great video. I enjoy these comparisons and did think the S&W model 18 would have been the winner. .22 shooting is some of my most enjoyable range time. 👍
@3Pillers
@3Pillers Год назад
Really like the High Standard Sport King. Looking forward to more in this series.
@freedomlover8535
@freedomlover8535 Год назад
Fun video! Thanks and keep up the great work!
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Will do. Thanks for watching!
@mikeks8181
@mikeks8181 Год назад
I shot a M& P compact for the First time two weeks ago down in Texas with some Military Friends. We were shooting for Fun at 25 yards Offhand! None of Us Received Your Results but, NOT One Magazine Shot Ever Left the 7 Ring! I Was Extremely Impressed by the Reset!!! Banging away on the 12 Inch Steel Target As Fast as Any of Us Could Master?!?! The Four of us went thru Over Two Hundred Rounds! It is my Next Purchase!? Hope mine Upholds the Quality and Accuracy of the one I shot! I was also Blown away by the Revolvers Accuracy! Still CAN'T Beat Old School Handcrafted! Thanks For Sharing This Video
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
You're welcome Mike . Thanks for watching!
@MrZonacat1
@MrZonacat1 Год назад
That was a fun video. I would like to see more like this. Thanks.
@Goldenwithaleash
@Goldenwithaleash Год назад
My most accurate .22lr pistol is my Colt Woodsman Match Target. From my limited research on the serial number, I believe it was manufactured between 1939 and 1940. My dad picked it up sometime in the 1960’s when he left the navy. I don’t shoot it much as it’s in beautiful condition and I have other .22 handguns but when I do, it’s a real tack driver.
@clintrockabar8100
@clintrockabar8100 Год назад
Excellent comparison video, thanks for sharing! Definitely impressed with the M&P. I'm still kicking myself for not getting one before the handgun sale ban here in Canada, as I use an M&P for Canadian Police Combat Association competition, and a .22 would have been a great way to extend my practice budget with the more affordable ammo. Thanks again, HR, and have a great day!
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Same to you Clint. thanks for watching!
@davidnancarrow6158
@davidnancarrow6158 Год назад
Another very well-done video sir! I enjoyed the content and certainly appreciate your hard work in producing these quality videos for us to enjoy. You make it look easy, but I know from experience what it takes to set up the camera shots, the post production editing and taking the time from family and friends to pursue your passion. I always look forward to your productions.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thank you, David!
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 Год назад
I agree, David. And in this video I was thinking, this is why hrfunk was a good firearms instructor -- he walks through the shot groups, the discussion of sights types and what each person's eye may be drawn toward, and why the groups ended up looking as they did. He mentions trigger differences. And he walks us through it patiently. Reminds me quite a bit of another favorite on YT, GunBlue490.
@mikek8089
@mikek8089 Год назад
S&W model 41 is a great bullseye gun, and I wish I had one! Right now for my bullseye .22, I shoot a Ruger mk2 with a Clark trigger and a BoMar rib and sights. I also have the same on my Gold Cup. Nice to have the same sight picture on both bullseye guns.
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 Год назад
My Sport King was a jamomatic. Its only saving grace was the large square front sight the previous owner had installed on it. A decade ago I finally purchased a spare magazine and to my surprise it solved the jamming issue. They are fun pistols to shoot and I love the rapid barrel removal and field stripping. These features alone place it head and shoulders above any Ruger MK series pistol.
@ImGdiddy
@ImGdiddy Год назад
High Standard pistols do not have a feed ramp as most other pistols and rely on the feed lips of the magazine to position the bullet into the chamber. Adjusting the magazine lips will solve feeding problems. There is a tool available that will do this, but it takes a bit of trial and error to do the adjustment. Having a working magazine to use for reference is a big help. Most non factory magazines are not properly hardened and will get out of adjustment more frequently than genuine H.S. magazines.
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 Год назад
@@ImGdiddy Thanks, but I eventually decided not to attempt any further repairs on the old mag. Instead, I now use it for training purposes so stud nets learn how to clear jams. At that mission it excels. 🙂
@yokoshemp
@yokoshemp Год назад
I bought a S&W Victory .22 because it was relatively cheap ($350). It is my most accurate handgun. It out shoots my original Python, S&W 629, and Kimber Gold Match II. So a variety of top of the line from major manufacturers. It also shoots very well for me. That is off hand outside blasting catfood cans at 25 yards. I was very surprised at the rapid fire accuracy as off hand and rapid fire is generally not the best test of accuracy. A S&W Model 41 is on my wish list.
@vicsage83
@vicsage83 Год назад
I was eyeing a Victory as well after my ex purchased one as her first handgun. I went with the Ruger Wrangler instead and I still wonder if I made the right decision
@jimchambers7548
@jimchambers7548 Год назад
I love shooting 22lr in rifle and handguns. I've owned and shoot a couple that you showed, all are super nice plinkers. But I've always found that no matter the brand our action that CCI ammo works. Great video 👍👍
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thanks Jim!
@terrywadsworth5645
@terrywadsworth5645 Год назад
I've found that CCI MINIMAGS 40gr solids has the best combination of reliability and accuracy in semi-autos . I don't often carry .22lr, but when I do...MiniMags...😉
@ogbobbye
@ogbobbye Год назад
to me it is obvious that the pistols you did best with have sights that are similar to what you use most. your eye is more accustomed to that sight picture. if you were to spend several days shooting just the target sights your group would tighten up but then after your groups with the M&P and the 19 revolver would open up. it is all about the balance between mind and body IMO.
@HOOSIERDADDY385
@HOOSIERDADDY385 Год назад
Thank you for the video.
@bluesfanman1
@bluesfanman1 Год назад
My Ruger 22/45 with a bull barrel is my favorite plinker. I have a Volquartsen trigger and a Burris Fast Fire 3. Super fun.
@anthonyross9276
@anthonyross9276 Год назад
I think this series is a great idea!
@jamestoth1256
@jamestoth1256 Год назад
Very good video. Hope you do more comparison's. Take care.
@chrispratt4516
@chrispratt4516 Год назад
Love this type of video, would love to see more videos like this one. And like you, I would have lost money if I placed a bet on the most accurate gun out of all of those I would have thought the S&W 22A for sure.
@tomtruesdale6901
@tomtruesdale6901 Год назад
Very nice video H R. My Bride has a S&W MP-22 compact and I and her find it to be a very fun to shoot pistol. I also enjoy shooting my Glock Model 40 in 22. Both 22s are fun and MUCH cheaper to shoot then their 9mm/40S&W big brothers. My most accurate pistol was a government issued S&W Model 66 with 4" barrel; it would shoot 1/2 dollar sized groups at 15 yards during qualification.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Very cool! You have got to love an accurate wheelie!
@tomtruesdale6901
@tomtruesdale6901 Год назад
@@hrfunk I shot it one day at 100 yards on a B-27 target and put 4 out of 6 in the upper body and then got cocky and tried head shots and put one just to the right and one just to the left of the head. Great trigger and it broke like glass. Loved that pistol but lost it when we switched over to S&W 6906s.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Too bad it got away.
@christopherbishop4927
@christopherbishop4927 Год назад
Funk Sir, I would love to see more of this type of video from you, absolutely. I was rooting for the High Standard 1st and the SW18 2nd. For all intents and purposes though I am not surprised the M&P won based on trigger time and muscle memory !?!
@maxmccain8950
@maxmccain8950 Год назад
I’ve got two of them that’s just about a tie. First is a 1970’s S&W model 17. It’s the gun I learned to shoot handguns with. I put thousands upon thousands of rounds through it and got very proficient. Then comes a Ruger mark II. It is scary accurate when I do my part. Nowadays I shoot a Glock 19 with a conversion unit on it. It’s not as accurate as the others but it’s the gun my granddaughters like to shoot. They’re spoiled. Anything I can do to spend more time with them, I do. When they get a bit older I’ll put the 9mm slide on it and give the guns to them when they get old enough. Any 22 is just plain fun to shoot. Thanks for another great video sir. It dredged up some memories from way back.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
You're welcome Max. Thanks for watching!
@cliffhouser9138
@cliffhouser9138 Год назад
I would like to see more comparison videos. Thanks Howard.
@bencrane8505
@bencrane8505 Год назад
Very interesting. I would’ve put money on the model 18 or the High Standard, at least they tie in the cool factor.
@Wyoming_Gramps
@Wyoming_Gramps Год назад
I hope you do more of these. Nice video.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thanks Earl!
@mikemcmanus116
@mikemcmanus116 Год назад
Great video and looking forward to more.
@larkinoo
@larkinoo Год назад
Fun video Howard ! .22s are a lot of fun.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thanks Doug!
@easyfiveOsink
@easyfiveOsink Год назад
A 9mm pistol comparison will be most interesting. For me it's a four way toss up between my BHP, CZ 75B, RIA 1911 and my S&W 5906.
@bobyocum1432
@bobyocum1432 Год назад
Great test,Definitely enjoyed the video.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thanks Bob!
@garytru563
@garytru563 Год назад
That was really interesting. Thank you.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
You're welcome Gary. Thanks for watching!
@romans6two338
@romans6two338 Год назад
I've had the S&W M&P 22 Compact for years and I enjoy plinking with it on 10 inch steel plates and just overall cheap practice. Nice cheap ammo and it's fun.
@JustScottPaid
@JustScottPaid Год назад
Another fun one! I'd be curious if the Taurus tx22 would rank with these? Thanks for sharing brother! 🇺🇲👍🇺🇲✌️🇺🇲
@drummer0864
@drummer0864 6 месяцев назад
I think your difficulty of the sights as you described is valid. Getting on in age doesn't help the situation. I think a proper set of sights on the High Standard, and the 41 should make both of those guns shine over the other ones. Traditionaly those guns are used in compition all over the world and set up correctly, will smoke the others. I'd like to see you do three five shot groups and take a little more time to line up each shot. Adjust your sights, because at ten yards you can see the holes and subconsciously, you're making adjustments. Or, move the targets out to twenty or twenty five yrds. On the revolvers, mark on of the cylinders so you can keep track and test to see which five are the most consistant and use the best five for your test. Just my thoughts.
@danoneill2846
@danoneill2846 Год назад
My Ruger MKII 6 7/8 " is a tack driver If I recall you have a Colt Woodsman ?? They are also very accurate !!
@larryeddings3185
@larryeddings3185 Год назад
Interesting accuracy comparison between some fine handguns.
@Bob-lt5hf
@Bob-lt5hf Год назад
My two most accurate 22LR handguns are the S&W Model 41 and S&W 617-6 shot revolver. I also own a Ruger Single Six and Single Ten, and Ruger Wrangler. The issues I have with the Ruger SA's is with the sight picture. Due to my eyes and I have to wear tri-focal lenes makes shooting accuracy very difficult. This is not a revolver issue but my eyes are my eyes! Back in the day when I competed in 22LR bullseye match my go to was my Browning Buckmark Target! I wish I never traded it in for another firearm. Great video and as alway's awesome shooting.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thanks Bob!
@grassroot011
@grassroot011 Год назад
I got that Colt Frontier Scout in '63, my second revolver in .22. Frist was an old H&R trapper, nine shot. made in the twenties.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Those are great old-time wheelguns!
@scott78731
@scott78731 Год назад
That was fun. We always learn several things, not just the focus of the video. I was mainly watching your bench set up - a folding table and pistol butt on top of two sandbags. Was that sturdy for you? What's your opinion of putting the pistol frame on the bags? Now I want to take my 22s to the range and figure out which one to use in the 2023 Turkey Shoot ar our club. I won a turkey with the Model 617 6" last year. You also introduced the concept of same ammo to pick the most accurate pistol, then experiment with different ammo on that one pistol.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thanks Scott! I rest the butt of the grip on the bag because the recoil impulse more closely replicates the results that might be expected if the shots were fired unsupported. It’s “sturdy enough.”
@Just1Guy1000
@Just1Guy1000 Год назад
I had a very early model 22A with the 7" barrel. Also picked up a 5" bull barrel for it. That was back when I could get bricks of .22 for I think $5/1K. I shot that gun so much that eventually I wore it out, and S&W replaced it with a new Victory. Can't complain about that considering I got about 20 years of enjoyment from it.
@strshooter7399
@strshooter7399 Год назад
First off, I just found this site, and I’ve watched a few of your videos. Thanks, they are informative and entertaining for me. Accuracy of any firearm (pistol/rifle) seems to be always an approximation. One day with all conditions being close to the same, you get tight groups, and then another time with the relative same conditions not so tight… . So, nothing is really absolute with accuracy comparisons. Still, I enjoy the testing you did, thanks. I’m not one who shoots at 10 yards, 20 feet, 50 feet distances. Sure, I’ve read where most firearm confrontations occur at or less than 7 yards. But I’m not shooting my .22 LR Ruger Competition at 10 yards. I’ve always thought 25 yards is the minimum to shoot for accuracy evaluation in a pistol. That’s my take on it. If I’m thinking of using a pistol (whatever caliber) to train with for “self defense”, then sure maybe at a shorter distance might be a choice I’d consider. Still, 25 yards and greater, knowing your firearm is accurate out to that distance is a absolute confidence builder (for me). Enjoying your videos, and this is by no means a negative review. (I agree that the fiber optics sights are great for relative accuracy, but precise target shooting with open sights? Maybe not so much, but a great boon for combat (if that’s the right term) shooting trying to pick up that front sight… . Thanks
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
@anthonyguidas2012
@anthonyguidas2012 Год назад
This was an interesting idea, definitely like to see more 👍
@rimfirejunkie7427
@rimfirejunkie7427 7 месяцев назад
I had a 22A and shot mountains of ammo through it. The weak spot is in the design where the bolt slams into the back of the breech. That energy is transferred through the locking block and will eventually crack the frame over top of the trigger. SW replaced mine with a Victory. On paper the Victor is a better pistol, but I miss my 22A.
@amoseaton9854
@amoseaton9854 Год назад
Good stuff. These days sights are everything for me.
@johnh4957
@johnh4957 Год назад
Great idea and presentation. Nice and short, included all entries in 1 video so immediate results, doubt more shots would change much, shows importance of good sights and trigger, using rest and 10 yards minimizes shooter/environment influences, again nice, wouldn't change a thing except to change calling it an accuracy test to a precision test.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thanks John!
@John.VanSwearingen
@John.VanSwearingen Год назад
Proper bullseye guns with great ammo (and high quality sights) make a huge difference. My Marvel conversion shoots sub-inch at 50 yards with Eley Club.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Very cool!
@darreldwalton8763
@darreldwalton8763 Год назад
Toss up between a few. Model 41 Smith, High Standard Victor, vintage Smith K22.
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 Год назад
Thanks hrfunk, I liked this one a lot. Great to hear your thoughts on the different sights, and which ones are more instinctive/easier for you to use. Is your favorite a plain black set, with defined right angles etc? I'd imagine that if you like the crisp black metal silhouettes, the fiber optic's dot would be distracting, not sharp or right-angles enough for what you find easier to resolve. Since I spend much more time on RDS, if I use irons I prefer that glowing blob up front, it reminds me more of the RDS dot reticle. Plain black iron sights are very slow for me to resolve. That M&P group was very impressive. And each of the others was precise, even if the groups were a bit shifted from center. The flier oddballs seemed to me like typical .22LR finickiness, firearm vs ammo, and ammo consistency itself.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thanks Sean. For pure target work I prefer the sharp, square sights. If acquisition speed becomes a factor, then fiber optics, dots, etc are my preference.
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 Год назад
@@hrfunk Thank you!
@MrThomass281
@MrThomass281 Год назад
My experience, I have never been able to get tight little groups with fiber optic sights. Kind of the same experience you had. I would have put my money on the Smith Revolver. Great video
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thank you!
@HSmith-uk9hl
@HSmith-uk9hl Год назад
The first pistol I ever shot was at age 5; my Father's Colt Woodsman that he had purchased new in 1929. He was behind me with his hands around mine and only one cartridge in the pistol. I've witnessed him make some truly remarkable shots with that pistol. But it's not the most accurate .22 pistol I've ever shot. That honor goes to my Erma ESP-85 that I bought new in 1986. I enjoyed your video but bet on the Hi-Standard, a manufacturer that made some amazingly accurate target pistols.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
I don't blame you. I thought that one was a front runner as well. Thanks for watching!
@skipboyer1889
@skipboyer1889 Год назад
I have one 22lr handgun. A Ruger Mk III that someone put a mag release lever 0n. It is also a bull barrel. I haven’t shot that in a long long time. Mainly because of how expensive ammo is. I can make 9mm for under $2/50. 38spl for about the same. Good video though. I’m not surprised at the outcome since, for the last 20 years you have been shooting an M&P of some sort for duty…..
@vicsage83
@vicsage83 Год назад
My first .22 pistol was a Browning Buckmark Camper which I bought circa 2011…from the first mag, FTF. It kind of soured me on semi-auto .22 pistols. I did have some good experiences with the S&W Victory but wound up going with the Ruger Wrangler because I love revolvers (as I frequently mention) and the price was hard to beat. Unfortunately, long story short, I had to send the Wrangler back to the mothership and Ruger is sending me a replacement pistol. I just can’t win with .22 handguns 😂
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Too bad. I hope your new Wrangler is a good one.
@nealewatson5284
@nealewatson5284 Год назад
I have to agree with SGT MAJ Trapp. The most accurate 22 I have ever fired is a S&W model 41. There are many accurate 22lr handguns and one must try a wide selection of ammunition to find which one works best in a particular gun. The very first handgun I ever had was a German copy of the Colt Frontier Six and it was unbelievably accurate for a revolver that cost $46.00 . Point is, there are lots of tack drivers out there. How much fun can we have finding the best?!
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
A lot!
@BrotherPhilo1958
@BrotherPhilo1958 Год назад
This was a fun test!
@easyfiveOsink
@easyfiveOsink Год назад
This will be a good line of videos.
@JJ_SDWR
@JJ_SDWR Год назад
Interesting video HR. Have you ever considered doing videos comparing the groupings/pattern of various shotgun loads, such as 00 buck vs 1 buck vs 4 buck just as an example. Just curious. Always enjoy your videos.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
I haven’t really considered that, but maybe I will.
@johnherr3579
@johnherr3579 Год назад
Good morning HR. Nice idea for a series. You could do each caliber in your collection and then a shoot off for the best overall. Great choice on the Wolf ammo. It gives Eley performance at a much better price. In good rifles it makes 1 ragged hole at 50 yards. The first handgun I owned was a .22 single action, single shot Savage 101. Couldn't hit much with it. I started bullseye competition with a 5" bull barrel Ruger pistol. Eventually worked up to the most accurate handgun I've ever owned, a Walther GSP. The 50 meter factory test target looked like it was shot with a rifle. Would like to see you on Utreon. I'm subscribed to Forgotten Weapons and a couple of others there. They can post content that would get them banned here on RU-vid.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thanks John. I saw that video from forgotten weapons. I am contemplating moving to that platform. Stay tuned!
@johnherr3579
@johnherr3579 Год назад
@@hrfunk Let us know if you start posting on Utreon. I'll subscribe and like on both platforms to help keep up your numbers.
@bruceallen6016
@bruceallen6016 Год назад
Interesting test. Thumb up for it. 😎
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thank you!
@cfzippo
@cfzippo Год назад
Yep. These are fun!
@Jointlock
@Jointlock Год назад
I love this idea/series...........would love to see you do episodes with the calibers I shoot: .38Spl/.357 and 9mm
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
Thanks! Stay tuned.
@fauxpa61
@fauxpa61 Год назад
Would look forward to seeing more "accuracy" testing; fun video to watch.
@royseifert3078
@royseifert3078 Год назад
Please do more. I'd like to see 9mm accuracy shoot-off. Thanks for a very informative video.
@sw4506
@sw4506 Год назад
Great video! I really liked how you just used the same Wolf ammo and not a whole bunch of different brands. I’m curious to know if CCI Mini Mags would’ve been more accurate. Maybe, maybe not.
@hrfunk
@hrfunk Год назад
I have always found Mini Mags to be accurate ammunition, but usually not the MOST accurate ammunition. Maybe I'll test that at some point in the future. Thanks for watching Eric!
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