This chair is incredible. I just took delivery of the Zody LX Upholstered in Charcoal with the lumbar and dual posture. It is the best chair ever made. The seat is very comfortable and spacious with no contoured edges. I was skeptical about the lumbar before ordering but once you get used to how it adjusts and fit it to your back, it is super comfortable and really supportive. The lumbar is not intrusive like the Fern's IMO. The recline is super smooth and the dual posture functions nicely. The arms are very well made and adjustable, they also definitely get out of your way if you want that. I just wish there was a headrest option, that would make it absolutely perfect. I also wish there was more back stops for the recline, other then lock and full recline. Other than that, this chair is superb! I would honestly rate this chair 9.5/10.
Michael, thank you for sharing your experience with it. I would agree with a lot that you said, but if you're someone who likes even moderate lumbar support, I can't see how this chair provides it without being used in the forward tilt or perched position. But like all chairs, it is a personal preference! Please come back after a few months and report back on your experience. Would love to know your longer term rating on it. -GK
I will update as time goes on. I would compare the lumbar support and firmness to the Freedom. I think the LX actually has firmer support. But it's rock solid, I can absolutely feel it. I'm pretty surprised you feel it's not adequate. I'll admit I had to raise the lumbar support higher than I thought but it's definitely solid and firm. I know we're all different, but I know you guys like the Amia which IMO has virtually 0 lumbar support.
I completely forgot this chair even existed. It reminds me of the Amia, but perhaps it doesn't have as much flexibility and adequate lumbar support. Not sure if this chair will be sold in the UK, as Haworth seems to have very limited options, in comparison to Herman Miller and Steelcase.
The LX is a wonderful and gorgeous chair, just the PAL seems much less aggressive than the original, and you really miss Fern's flexibility on the back.
So I’ve been eying a HM embody or areon for a few weeks , never could decide. I like the forward tilt function and think it would be useful for me. I make custom knives and work from home in my shop. Usually 12-16 hour days , a lot on the computer using fusion 360. When I’m not doing that , at times I’m hunched over assembling things. So the tilt function appealed to me. But the Aeron just never sat well with the always correct posture. Then tonight I saw the other video where they reviewed the Zody 2. Went and looked at Haworths website and am confused 😂. There is the classic and what they call the zody office chair. It appears to have all the same functionality of the 2 and LX , is that correct? Would probably go with the knit either way. Just not a lot of detail out there and I only see what they call the zody 2 and LX for custom orders. Thanks for any help. I guess I’m a chair junky now. I can’t stop watching chair reviews. Love your guy’s website and videos.
When it comes to building the best most comfortable seats, I think the winner goes to car manufacturers. I tried too many office chairs and each one disappoints me and that includes the overhyped Aeron chair. Some car seats like in the 2014+ Nissan Rogue, was designed with NASA engineers on zero gravity seats, I drove in those seats for 6 hours with no complaint of back pain and aches. Plus it comes with side air bags.
The Aeron isn't really the best office chair to use as a general comparison, since mesh is very polarising compared to foam and the hype is for ppl who like to feel suspended, instead of cushioned. The Leap v2, Amia or Fern are better choices. Those seats you find on cars are designed to keep you safe and also have some level of comfort. None of them would be suitable for an office environment, because they lack a lot of basic features, such as height adjustable armrests, lumbar support and a flexible seat/backrest.
How are you comparing driving to sitting at a desk? Totally different use cases for those chairs, and it makes no sense to say that car manufacturers know how to make more comfortable chairs than chair manufacturers.
@@StardustLegacyFighter I’m sure if car manufacturers wants to add height adjustable armrest, they could if necessary. Adjustable Lumbar support has always been available on car seats and fixed lumbar supports were always carefully considered by these manufacturers. Car seats have more cushion and recline adjustability too. It just takes DIYer to modify the car seat to fit an office environment.
@@tiberianexcalibur Car manufacturers have no idea what is suitable for the office environment, it's not just about designing a comfy chair. You'd need to do a hell of a lot of DIY to get a car seat to work as well as a high end office chair, when it literally makes much more sense to get a Lifeform or Neutral Posture chair instead. Those chairs come with a lot of padding and a ton of adjustments not found on car seats whatsoever.
Pretty comparable with regards to the firmness. Luxe might be a bit more forgiving in the tailbone region if you're sensitive to that. The Luxe doesn't have any real flex in the seat though, so for that reason the Leap seat might be better if you move around -GK
I tried the original zodi couple of months back and its like basically lying down in the upright postion. Cant believe this is one of the largest selling office chairs.
Wouldn't dialling up the recline tension up prevent the chair from going down in the neutral position? That's what ppl do with chairs like the Aeron, when they want to be fairly upright, but don't want to lean forward with the forward tilt.
@@StardustLegacyFighter Not with the zodi. From the lean forward position, if you want the seat to go up to normal position, you need to lean back a bit. And once you lean back, the backs stuck there in the recline position. Soji provides the perfect upright position and next to that is Fern. I wouldnt use the zodi even if someone gave it for free. I saw one sell for 100AUD on FB market and he was selling it becuase of the recline.
Dialing up the tension helps you hold the Zody classic in a more neutral position, but you still have to work for it which can be tiring after a while. I know that is how Ryan used it -GK
As Ryan has suggested in a number of his videos, if you put Zody in a forward tilt and increase the tension, you can use it in an upright position. If you use it like that, it actually works out better than other chairs because it provides you with an active seating experience, which prevents pain and fatigue in the long run. If you are constantly sitting in an upright position for long periods of time, it will cause pain at some point.
@@ib78 Thats because that position is not comfortable for everybody. I have a chair that allows any angle of seat tilt and back rest tilt and I can only sit in that position for not more than couple of hours after which I have to go back. Let alone doing it on a chair while trying to push it back and holding it in that position.
Crazy how much white the Luxe has in its body. A Black/Aluminum combo would be great, but seems like the higher model isn't designed for somebody who is keeping this for a long time. Those arms (and body) will get beat up over the years.
I just got an office star progrid chair and I love it. How you come you guys have never reviewed it? It is such a common office chair, and has a ton of adjustments with a comfy cushion.
Has anyone else had problems with forward tilt (perched) mode on this chair? I order a Zody Luxe from Haworth and could not get the forward tilt to stay disabled. Each time I placed the chair in standard mode a second or two after standing up I heard a crack/pop and the chair would slam into forward tilt mode. Haworth replaced the chair and now the replacement is having the same issue. Sometimes with this chair I'm able to stand up and walk away but several minutes later hear the familiar crack/pop followed by the chair slamming forward into forward tilt mode. It's disappointing because I find the Zody incredibly comfortable especially when compared to the Fern which gave me nothing but back pain and was way to upright. If ordering a Zody I'd never get it with forward tilt due to my experience with it.
I think they mention it in their $12,000 desk setup video. I do remember explaining it was a bit of a "hack" or that in some way did not represent the standard, finished product you would purchase.
That finishing of aluminium isn't cheap at all, it's very durable and fares better than what you find on cheaper chairs. I do agree with the white, that would look much better in a darker colour.
I simply can't see how 1600$ for a chair is a reasonable price. HM gets away with it due to 10+ years of full chair warranty and their huge brand name, but the rest of them? The castors, base and gas lift can be sourced for less than 100$ from Amazon easily even when looking for decent quality stuff - Is a tilt mechanism, seat, armrests and backrest really worth $1000 or more?
Haworth and Steelcase also have 12 year warranty on their chairs and are a well known brand name too, just maybe not as popular as Herman Miller, but still respected amongst many chair enthusiasts. The R&D that goes into designing custom seats, backrests and the recline mechanism isn't cheap at all. As well as paying for the name, you're paying for the quality of the parts and the R&D.
No idea why you bring those points up. In the US/Canada, Haworth chairs share a similar, if not better 12y warranty (with some caveats, just like HM). Just google it to find out exactly what. Haworth is also a huge brand name, it just isn't as popular in media and, well wall street, but the volume is likely shared between the 4 major brands: Steelcase, HM, Humanscale and Haworth. There's also a lot of third-party compatible gas lifts, lumbar pieces, armpad caps etc either on Amazon US, ebay or other shops, and Haworth itself sells these parts for a slight premium, but with warranty. In my opinion, choosing between any of these 4 brands because of their warranty, after sales, build quality etc should be a moot point. Go for what you sit best in, what your wallet can afford, and what you like visually, and if it's from these 4 chair makers, you can go ahead confidently.
@@StardustLegacyFighterI just think it’s silly that they sell a simple cornet stool for $416+. It’s just a basic stool with wood top and chrome steel fixed legs.
@@andrewsaur9893 You can get same type of metal frame finishing on certain HM and Steelcase chairs, but it obviously costs more. How exactly is that cheaper than plastic?
Are you asking why other people want to spend this much? Or you just wanted to poo on other people's discretionary purchases? Or are you saying that we should base our chair purchasing decisions on your sitting needs? Trying to clarify your comment here.
