My Opinion on the Future of WCA Events 

The only reason beginners do the quick events is that the time limits are always too harsh for slower events. Allow 2 minutes for square or 3 minutes for 4x4 and you'll have plenty of participants.

No one's going to watch a whole multi blind attempt either but every event doesn't have to be for the spectators

I think the wca shouldn't remove events they should add events

Smh the memorization technique for 4BLD and 5BLD can be very different and removing then makes platinum extra easy and hence makes such achievements less prestigious

I don't think people should care about spectator friendly events, at least at my country we are a small community and we compete because we like it and basically every competition is about the competition. BLD events are entertaining to those who like it and the fact that events are similar shouldn't be a factor and challenging on their own. Big events as well, it's only your opinion and if you don't like its fine they are similar but all completely different. Probably if you tried to get good at big cubes you can understand it's not just more pieces and only get good at one and become better at the rest. For us who do most events know the process of improvement and their own uniqueness. Again I don't think we do it for the spectators, we do it for our selves and that should be enough. Your tier events concept is completely uselless, organizers already chose what type of competition they are doing and you don't want to compete on a event then just don't pick it. That's why there are competitions like FMC Americas, the competitions with BLD events, and competitions based on the area where it would be held.

Besides clock, I think every event has it's place in the WCA. You have to remember that even though the competitions are moving towards spectator-friendliness, and being a "spectator sport", but you have to remember that a lot of the competition is also for the competitors themselves, and the interest of those who appreciate puzzles for the theory and what makes them a puzzle. You can't forget that it's not all for the cameras and for the ones watching. And honestly, if we remove those longer events and make it mainly focused around events that take less than 5 seconds or so, we have effectively made the equivalent of a cupstacking competition.

Let’s all make sure Sam never gets a job in any wca committee

I'm sorry, but I believe that you are totally wrong on the big cubes and big blind. And repetitive does now matter. And you should not remove an event just because other people are so far ahead of others

actually, we shouldnt remove any events because there is always people that like the events that you want removed

if 5bld gets removed someone's kneecaps are getting removed

I just learnt clock and I'm really enjoying it

Super late, but I have this great idea: 3x3 no inspection. It's like 3bld, but not blind. You start the timer, then take off the cube cover and solve normally. This would make 3x3 interesting again, as I feel the pros are now one-looking f2l, and ll is just easy to recognize.

Very late but I disagree with most things said in the video. We definitely shouldn’t remove events because of the people who enjoy those events and put time and practice into them and the event tier system seems cool but I think we just need to accept that cubing is and always will be a niche hobby so making cubing competitions interesting for outsiders isn’t realistic.

people try to remove events without properly trying them and given them a real go like clock for example i wanted it removed without even trying it because of youtubers always using it at the but of the joke. I tried it and its one of my favourite events

I think tier 2 events should be less common in local comps but they definitely should have them at nats and worlds

Stanley do be crying watching this

#1x1forwca It’s are job to do promote this so it reaches this to the wca

I think that before someone develops an opinion on these things, they should practice that event for a good amount of time. I think just saying to remove events because just one person is the best is invalidating the effort that the record holders put towards these events.

Bro big cubes are literally like the best wca events behind like 3x3. Big blind sorta makes sense but I don’t really care cuz I don’t do blind so I don’t know how repetitive but keep big cubes fr

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Honestly I think clock should stay. in my opinion clock is very spectator friendly because One its very fast, and Two for what you said about people not being able to see whats going on, that adds a factor of intensity because spectators know someone will finish any second and they dont know who it will be. Also, you said scrambles take forever, but they are acually really fast because you scramble in a pin order that stays the same every single scamble. i personally scramble clock in under 20 seconds and I dont practice it much By the way you dont need 3D print cube covers just litterally use anything big enough to cover it thats easy to take off anyways, to end, I enjoy clock, and i dont think it should be removed

Hello! Nice video I only have one question. What is FTL?

A very good idea of mine. Just be Jayden McNeill and do every event.😂😂

EDIT: I see now that later on in the video you say they shouldn't be removed and should be tiered instead, but to be fair you didn't make it clear at all that you didn't want them removed in the first 11 mins of the video lmfao One thing which I highly disagree with is the sentence: "the events that need to go are..." we do not need to remove more events. Feet made sense, but Clock is having better hardware now and also more people practice it. it is also not looked down upon by non speedcubers, (feet had this problem where the general public were disgusted by it) so the one event that makes the most sense to remove, shouldn't be removed. hence we shouldn't remove 7x7, or 5BLD etc. I think it's absolutely stupid to suggest that we should remove an event with more competitors than clock. Even though 6x6, 7x7, and 5BLD might be a little similar to other events, they were introduced to the WCA early on and removing them would basically just be a complete kick in the balls for people who now practice them and like them. Also can I mention that 5BLD introduces +-centers into the solve and they have to be solved a little differently with different commutators. also the only competitions where clock is almost mandatory to be held is Championships and big events. the big events tend to have a LOT of time with strict cutoffs especially for clock so no problem there. Championships also deal with it okay. Any talk of removing events is honestly gonna end in disaster, we should add events like FTO. I believe the WCA has room for about 2 new events. Also have you ever even watched advanced 4BLD solves? It is honestly so satisfying to watch. any argument to remove an event because it's not a spectator friendly event is just a bad arguement. Would you rather a fun event that isn't spectator friendly (clock as an example) or a not fun event that is spectator friendly (possible Ghost cube might be an example because of how hard it is) Your argument about how we should remove 4/5 BLD because they are not exciting to watch are bad, because with that logic MBLD should go straight out the window. (it can be up to like 50 mins of memo lol and it's just 3x3 BLD over and over again)

I genuinely would like gigaminx added

What is your main cube at sq1?

Maybe host events for certain puzzles, not for a competition, but to officially log times in a leader board

my ideal list of future wca events: ---NxN--- 3x3 2x2 4x4 5x5 6x6 7x7 ---NxN SPINOFFS--- OH Feet FMC 3BLD MBLD 4BLD 5BLD ---NICHE PUZZLES--- Megaminx Pyraminx Skewb Square-1 Clock FTO All Events all events should be added because its like the most impressiive looking one up there with mbld, and there are a lot of all rounders and records could happen all the time because no one is top class at all events fmc can be not optimal as long as its less than 80 moves and you're doing it fast mbld should just be 2 cubes, remember all events is about speed

What is FTL in Feet??

My thoughts I think team blind is fun but hard to organize Mirror blocks has way to many versions Don’t remove 4x4 and 5x5 lol Void cube is going to be like ‘lock lock’ 1x1 is impossible I think tier 2 is a good idea. Magic, we forgot about. Fto hardware is bad but popular

About redi cube. Redi is intuitive, but unlike clock, there is place for development of your solves. I personally use 3 methods depending on scramble. 1st method: LBL - intuitive method. Step 1: First Layer Step 2: Pairs (solve F2L edges and orient top corners) Step 3: ELL (not just sledges, a bit harder - there are simple algs for Z and H perms. Pretty intuitive tho) 2nd method: TAL (Two Adjacent Layers) Step 1: First Layer Step 2: Adjacent Layer (solve 2 pairs + edge in between) Step 3: L5E (you orient last 2 corners with 2 moves and do one alg for l5e) 3rd method: Top First (yep, strange, I dont use it often, but its kinda fun) 1st step: Top (1 corner, 3 neighbouring edges, and 3 neighbouring to them corners) 2nd step: TL (Two Layers) - use this top to solve two layers like after the 2nd step of TAL 3rd step: L5E (same as TAL) And there of course could be more room for improvement - some things with tons of algs like ZB in 3x3. And in clock there can be no algs at all.

what is FTO?

About what you said about removing big cubes, why not just take out 6x6 and 7x7? If your problem is that they are all the same, you can just remove almost every big cube. Also, 5x5 is very spectator friendly and doesn’t take too long. So I don’t think it makes sense to remove ALLLLL the big cubes

We also 3D print square-1 covers and for clock we can pretty much tell how quick someone is going by their flip split

I dont think all events have to spectator friendly cus those events can be held in another room

I think with the new Clock puzzle, we should at least have some time to break the records of new people to enjoy it. But if the general consensus stays the same, then it's sure to go eventually

All NxN cubes are staying!!! I say get rid of crappy square 1.

Would be very sad if 5x5 were not an event. 6x6 and 7x7 are a bit much though. I think master pyraminx, maybe even professor pyra at this point, FTO and master FTO. Adding some cuboids could be cool, and helicopter cube. There's so many good puzzles out there. Most aren't really speed cube ready, but also adding events to WCA allow speed cubes to be made to meet the demand

I think up to 6x6 is what i want to keep but 7x7 is to long in my option

7:31 disagree. As a beginner, 4 and 5 were my favorites! They were simple enough to pick up and learn, and felt completely different. Low cutoffs made me switch to maining pyra (now I main 4 again), because my 2:30s on 4 and 5:15s on 5 meant I got 2 solves per competition.

If they remove the wca events there will not be any more wrs tho coz if you remove the harder events or the events that take longer the WRs are gonna be the same at one point and wont ever be broker for many years.

Rescramble should be an event. You get 2 cubes but 1 of them you need to copy the scramble.

For 6x6/7x7 the centres are distinct enough for me to consider it worth keeping both maybe you don't agree because you just make bars execlusicely. Clock is the only event I can see being removed to be honest. The argument to remove 5BLD 6 and 7 can also be applied to OH but not one wants OH to go. I don't think any event needs removal. The spectator friendly events are not 2x2, Pyraminx and Skewb. They are too short. You can't see what is going on. Honestly just being told the times as the happen without watching is the same experience. The shortest length where it is not too short is Square 1 and 3x3. There is a point where an event is too long to be spectator friendly but that varies. What about FMC? If we focus on spectators the event will have to go but it is very unique. All events are repeative to some degree the short events are the worst. They have 2 steps. Sq1 is all algs so that is too, but you are baised about that. For new events FTO is the only viable suggestion I have seen. No more short events should be added we have enough short event for the kiddies. For team events I honestly think team BLD is shit. It hard for me to explain but I think the way it would devolop would make it boring to do and watch and result in a event that isn't distinct. The calling system would be standardised meaning it a blindfolded person hearing a cross solution and then 6 words for f2l oll and pll cases. This would not be interesting to watch. It would only be about as distinct as OH which already uses the same method as 3x3 speedsolving just with a slightly different approach to ll. I think team BLD has a place as a fun unofficial thing to do with friends. Also how would you deal with NRs? I would say you would have to have people from the same countries competing together or else the records get messy. Which could be a little unfair on someone who is the only person from their country completing. Relays could work. Athletics(track and field for the Americans) is a sport to look at to model cubing after for spectators. Cubing isn't a team "sport" is an individual the only good to team events are Nations cup type of events. Lastly new formats need to be fairly simple. People suggest 3bld should change from bo3 and the mbld scoring system should change. But the simplicity of these is a benefit. Non cubers can understand it easily we don't want to lose that. PS Ivy is a even worse idea than 2bld it only has 30000 scrambles so a repeats are common and God's number is 8.

This isn’t an event but they should introduce multiblind average if they have enough time Make a mean of three for: The amount of cubes solved The amount of cubes submitted The amount of time taken For example: 7/10 56:09 6/9 42:20 10/11 59:59 Mean without rounding: 7.66/10 52:49.33 Final result: 8/10 52:49 The single will still be more important though but this is a good idea!

Hey everyone, what event do YOU personally think should be in WCA, I personally think that the Windmill cube should be an event

How about rediminx? OK, I only mentioned that because I finally solved the thing! :)

Summary of this video “everything except 3x3 and Sq1 is a bad event because it’s repetitive and screws up the schedule”

I dont fully agree with your thoughts... even the methodes on 5x5-7x7 are the same, the feeling to hold and complete the cube is a different one. A 7x7 still is spectator friendly, bc a pro 7x7 competetor will not take over 5 minutes on a 7x7. (even tho an interested spectator would spend the 5 minutes) 6x6 is lucky at some points but in the end the ability to spot pieces on big cubes gets worser the bigger the cube is. And thats why a 7x7 is something different than a 5x5 or a 6x6.

22:00 "Fmc is a team event if you cheat"

The tier 2 event concept is very nice in my opinion

Love your channel- really interesting high quality videos, keep it up!

How do you think rankings in team events should work?

4bld and 5bld are pretty much the same, I agree, but very different from 3bld, so I'd keep at least 4bld (it's also one of my favourite events so I'm a bit biased): memo isn't too long, and it's exciting to see the execution. Mbld same thing, watching the execution is great (of course no one watches full memo). I agree on what you said about clock (no one sees what's going on), but it's a unique tps event, funny to practice in my opinion. I disagree on 6x6 and 7x7, they're not similar to 5x5, centers are much more creative. Maybe I'd remove 7x7, but 6x6 in my opinion should definitely stay. I don't do fmc, it's the least spectator friendly event, but I underatand why it's there, so I'll keep it for people who enjoy doing it. I won't add any event for bigger or lower puzzles already in (so no master pyra, skewb, no kilominx, no square 2 or anything else similar), in my opinion big cubes are worth only for nxn (which are kinda the main twisty puzzles). I'd add instead popular non wca puzzles such as redi cube, 2x2x3 maybe, maybe some more shape shifting puzzles (but not 3x3 shape modes, just puzzles with different mechanism). Fto could be nice as well.

I am sorry but I want to say that team blind and nations cup should not be added because .How will wca add it to our wca profiles

I agree with some points made here, however I don’t think any events should be removed. I don’t like clock personally, and don’t think it should have ever been added. However I realize that there is a community behind the event and it should not be removed. I personally love big cubes (especially 6 and 7) and would hate to see them go. I can see the point in tier 2 events, but all current events should stay tier 1. Team blind is a good idea in theory, however 2 good bld solvers could just teach each other their bld method. They would 1 look in inspection and destroy everyone with 7-8 second solves. Your point about redi cube being too intuitive can just as easily be applied to pyra, skewb, and 2x2. I think it would be a good event to add

Cool video

For the big cubes I dont think spectators can be able to see the cube when solving because usually cubers solves it under table Yes I agree that clock is a very troublesome events for organisers but I dont think that wca should removed it there are large populations of cubers doing clock events even and it is the simplest event in wca which doesnt required any algorithms but only logics to solve it it is kind of an interessting events and also now many companies making better clock in the market.

i would wish me one or two shape cubes like sq1

Please don't remove like,half of the wca events and many people like big cubes.

I feel like they might drop 7x7 or 5BLD, but I would love to see them add kilominx. If it is an official event, the hardware will quickly improve

22:22 how can we be best friends for life if the comp is 6 hours away

“People designing cube covers specifically for one event is stupid” He says, while solving a Squan.

i agree with removing 5bld, and adding kilominx, but i think events like clock and big cubes should stay, clock for its uniqueness, and big cubes because it encourages newer cubers/competitors to try more complex things.

should add kilominx, 2x2 and 3x3 mirror cube, 2x2 blind, 2x2, 4x4, 5x5 multiblind and all 3x3 side events like fewest moves and one handed solving have a 2x2, 4x4, 5x5, 6x6, 7x7

Also i think they will make a wca cube for competitors who wants to use it

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the only reason I would like mirror blocks added (or a blind cube maybe?) in the WCA is for blind people to be able to compete, which would bring cubing to even more people! sq-2 would be cool also

I agree to this video 100 % and feet should be added True if events are events are removed people will become sad for eg I was very good in feet and it got removed and I became sad...... And events like 4 5 6 7 their are the same in my opion 6 and 7 should be removed and 5 bld also block for sure because they are boring to watch but 4 bld and mbld us nice Events like squan ,pyra , skewb , and mega are nice becuase they are short and spectator friendly ... Finally I want to say that wca should add some more events which are more spectator friendly.

Mirror cube should be added because its not exactly like 3x3. Maybe you can't plan first or even cross bcause the shpe

I know people hate clock, but it’s truly one of my favorite events. I’ll be sad when it goes.

I understand clock, but I still do not think it should be removed even if it isn't spectator friendly, it is still very fun and one of the most unique events. The only other event that is worst (or would be) for spectators would be FMC, which I do not hate.

I think they should add master pyra

I do agree the edges can be tedious but they should still be. Avent

‏‪They should add blind mirror blocks with no inspection

"Thats something that would happened more, if it happened more often" - Cube Master 2020

I love the clock but. I get it doesn’t fit.

the reason i dont think FTO should be added is the lack of accesibility. theres barely any FTO producers that arent vintage. it would be interesting if moyu or qiyi made an FTO

Part of the problem with ivy cube is it’s just a pyraminx shape mod

They should make a mirror cube event

I think 5x5 shouldn't be removed or even considered. The methods between 4x4 and 5x5 are the same, but some steps diversify. 5x5 is even better than 4x4.

I think 3x3/OH/3BLD relay would be cool.

i feel like the wca should remove clock because it doesn't really fit with the others and maybe sq1 due to its lack of popularity compared to others like 4x4 but maybe they should add the unnoficial events (redi cube mirror kilominx) to the official events. also 2x2/4x4 OH seems fitting. 2x2 blind probably shouldnt be added because lots of people are gonna be doing it too quickly, and maybe 4x4 multi blind.

4 5 6 7 are fun to solve

If magic comes back the scrambled state shouldn't be the same every time

removing 5x5 and 4bld wth

Lol controversial indeed

Agree with you

At least we have sq-1

Tbh square 1 is the best event because it’s a great event to spectate you can tell when steps happen it’s fast and really interesting to watch, it’s got great hardware it’s just the best I mean it’s not my favorite but it’s a perfect event I feel.

I would add mirror blocks :D

5bld its one of the best events why someone would want to remove it? add 3x3 while juggling

i would love 2x2 and 4x4 oh tbh

11:45 things to add

I am a member of wca your ldea I good

Don't mess with my boy 5

They should add all 3 1x1 cubes like normal 1x1 the 1 layer pyra and the 1 layer mega

I thin) they should add 3x3 underwater

i really like clock because its really easy and im not very good at cubing

help clock please

when you realize the wca logo has the wrong color scheme: