My Partially Blind Son Didn’t See The Murder He Was Jailed For | Guilty Bystander | Channel 4 

He wasn't that blind that he could wander around, in the dark with his mates getting drunk and causing trouble and vandalising people's property. He may have an issue with his sight but that does not make him innocent. Mr Newlove's wife and 3 daughters witnessed the attack and saw the damage all 3 (+)of them did. If he can't even take responsibility at this point, bearing in mind this took place 15 years ago, and his mother is still patting him on the head and telling him it's not his fault, then there isn't much hope. A fully grown man is dead because this boy and his mates decided to get drunk, start vandalising people's property and when confronted, decided that grotesque violence was the right response. Then they ran away leavng a man dying in front of his own house. Whether he landed any kind of kick or not, if that was me, I would still feel responsible and would find it difficult to live with the consequences - that I hadn't helped/intervened. Rather, this boy/man, and his mum decide to try and avoid any responsibility for the catastrophic results of their actions and to add insult to injury, use a disability to try and water down his responsibility. I rememver the case, and remember that they were all laughing in court. If he wasn't responsible and was scared to intervene, why the shallow approach in court, and denial of responsibility to this day? Why no remorse? I don't even have to watch to know what his mother will say. If that had been me, my mum would have been embarrassed and mortified that I was involved in such an incident, in any way. Never mind absolutely beyond angry. Yet this boy (now man)'s mother is still telling him it's not his fault. No wonder he ended up the way he did if that was/is her approach to parenting.

This is why Jordan found himself in a gang, kicking a man to death. His mum has enabled him and made excuses for him, all his life!

Sad that she's trying to use a disability.. Everything she's saying is to minimise her sons thuggish behaviour which left an innocent man dead..

A blind lad was out at night so how could he see? I don't think the mum has any compassion for the victim. Her son was there and clearly isn't deaf either. Minimising her sons involvement is ridiculous. The victims family saw what happened didn't they? Also why was her 15 year old drinking on the street? That isn't something every teenager does and reflects her parenting style.

Jordan might be on a life licence but he's still alive! Would she feel the same way about the law if a group of teenagers kicked him to death?

You are going to be very hard pushed to find anyone that actually believes any of this and offers any sort of sympathy. It sounds like prison is exactly where they should be.

" when he got sentenced, he looked at me and the Jury " I thought he couldn't see . just a poor excuse from a poor parent. Should have brought him up better love.

His mother said that he could not hear because he could not see! Well, some parents are blind to the faults of their kids.

She is full of it, no way a kid with eyesight as bad as she is making out can walk off in the DARK by himself eating chips and not trip up over curbs, where is his stick? Dog? If he can't tell where his mum is how does he find his friends in the dark? It's such bs.

"His eyesite was that bad he didnt hear what happened" Yeah that makes sense. Jail the hooligans, im not sure what youre hoping to achieve but trying to get the public to feel sorry for a hooligan and his pals who kicked a poor fella to death isnt gonna work.

She's really thinking everyone's going to tow the rope with what she's saying.. She's absolutely Full of it and she lacks so much compassion for the victims

She’s absolutely thick! He can’t hear because he can’t see. He heard her when she called him though.

Reading the comments here might be a wake up call for Jordan’s stupid mother.. Your son murdered a man and now your son is free, let go and accept that justice was done

As a visually impaired person myself (40% vision in one eye) the fact that his mum is using a disability to say that her son is innocent is sickening. Also, not every visually impaired person has a guide dog or uses a white cane.

Her wilful ignorance of her son's responsibility in this horrific crime is an insult to the Mr Newlove and his family. No shame.

Bullshit he was that blind.. Could still see his chips...

Lol she actually thought she was going to get sympathy from this.

Parents need to take some responsibility as for saying he was blind and couldn't see so why was he out fishing and drinking what a great parent

“This isn’t just about Jordan” correct…..it’s also about an innocent man brutally beaten to his death poor bloke

Did she not worry her son was not in when police rang her at 01.30

I remember this horror in 2007. It was heartbreaking for the Newlove family. It was a MASSIVE case in England at the time. He'll be out of jail now. But I agree with the jailing of gangs.

She deluded as are a huge number of these Joint Enterprise parents...Stuck in denial and struggling to come to terms with their failings and the fact they raised monsters.. Felicity Gerry a class act though and her presentation in Jogee v Crown was exceptional work and shes clearly brilliant..

Man can stay away from the group to eat his chips and go for a wee by himself but he can't see. Wake up love will ya

The ignorance of this woman unbelievable 'literally' !!!

But there was blood found on his shoes? Come on

His eye sight wasnt good enough to see his mate and probably himself kill an innocent man but his eye sight was good enough to be out on the piss with his mates, ridiculous

She has absolutely no shame or remorse. Clearly believes her son is the victim in all of this, no genuine regard for the innocent man murdered on that day.

To quote his mother “Looked at me and looked at the jury”

If you can kick a football you can fix a RAF tycoon fighter jet

If he's such a sweet innocent boy with a disability then why didn't he try and stop the beating? He could of saved that man's life but it was dark he couldn't see because he's blind. I'm really sorry I don't believe this for a second it doesn't matter who done they where vandalising people's property, getting drunk and for fun beating a family man to a pulp and it must of been some beating if he died!! We need way more information on this because a post mortem would of taken place etc. Maybe I've been watching too many true crime programmes but I hope this is a full programme because they're so much information missing.

What absolute bs. He couldn't see his mum in a brightly light police station, but could stand alone eating in the dark and then go for a pee. Missing out is that 9 were arrested, 5 charged yet only 3 were found guilty.

A mother's love knows no bounds, so completely understand why she's trying her best to help her son although I do think she's misguided

These teenagers attacked check this out "two disabled" kids(how ironic ) at a bus stop, and another group of two lads ,they were on a rampage that night, it's all on Google,they had previously been sitting on Mr newloves car ,and swearing at him ,and other residents had there properly damaged in the street,his three daughters told the court what happend,this documentary is an embarrassment,also he was sat laughing in dock and mocking proceedings,and then cried when sentenced,had blood found on his jacket,and was denied parole for drinking and gang activity in prison.hes so blind he went to a normal prison,the chips were borght after the group kicked Mr newlove to death,he was seen as one of nine attackers by eyewitness,sorry love the scummy lil sh*t is bang to rights ,and if he's blind it's called karma.

My ex tried to play this card after hurting someone quite badly. They know what they are doing. This is bull.

She's just as guilty for me for trying to make an excuse for him. He killed a family mam and ruined life's. Lock him up for life

His eyesight is so bad he didn’t hear anything??? 😂😂😂😂 babe his hearing will be elevated due to the lack of visual ability, not impaired

“His eyesight was so bad that he couldn’t see or hear anything” oh aye, I get the argument he may not have been visually aware but he was deaf an all? Bollocks. There’s no way this all went down so quickly & quietly that he heard nowt.

This so horrific on an innocent family only standing up on themselves

He was laughing and joking in court. She maybe would get more sympathy had she known where her blind son was at night time. Allowing him to hang around with someone who had just been let out on bail for an attack is hardly responsible parenting. Eyewitness accounts saw him there, he had blood from the daughter on him. If he was so disabled why was he left on his own for long periods of time?

If my loved one was killed by a group of animals and even one of them gets off because he didn’t directly physically get involved but was a there as a support or any manner in which is energy contributed I would want that person to suffer consequences too

She says the football thing like it goes in her favour. It really doesn't She's either so full of grief she misses the point is is being disengenous. It's not a moral argument it's a practical one. I also sensing some very strong fatherless energy from this too. Gets the noggin joggin 🤔

The system is corrupt as fuck imagine that been ya dad a group of little helmets do that and then the sentence gets squashed in others words someone loses a loved one whilst a bunch of rats get to walk free

What a miscarriage of justice, hope the blind lads ok

I have Keratoconus & have since I was a Teenager...I have had 3 cornea Transplants (all rejected) I amniw registered blind.....But I can't Agree with this Mother!! Her Son Would have seen this happen....I had/have it So bad but I can see Movement and Some colour!! I would definitely see a man being kicked to death!!! Not like a fully sighted person would see it, but i would know what was going on..... His Mother is Wrong In what she's says!!

*All mothers declare their vagabonds, angelic personified. Does anyone feel sorry for the Van Victim? The man who died isn't even being discussed. Sad how victims are forgotten and criminals are sympathised to .*

He should be kept in prison for life along with the others that killed Gary Newlove. No if's, but's or maybe's!!.

The woman is deluded and I believe in joint enterprise. At anytime he could have called the Police but chose not to. Therefore, equally responsible and needs to pay for it.

Sad she can’t see what her son did. No one’s feeling sorry for you, he was obviously part of that yob. Don’t try and use his ‘impaired vision’ as an excuse. Obviously can see enough to go round terrorising the neighbourhood.

They got off lightly.

Guilty he and his friends killed a man at home

I wonder what really happened? The court transcript will probably tell a very different story.

15 year old boy attacks a dad.

On the whole, I find UK sentencing too lenient so I have little sympathy for those complicit in a crime who do not stay on scene to help the victim and/or call the police.

Sorry but this wasn’t an isolated incident. This group had a history of violence and this young man’s history was littered with violent crimes and intimidation

Surely he would have glasses if he sight was that poor ?

Never their fault always someone else - did not want his chips taken then conveniently needed a pee then seen nor heard nowt -aye right - full of pee more like -

What everyone on this video is failing to mention is that this gang terrorised the Newloves neighbourhood endlessly. They then, with no care for the consequences kicked and stomped on an innocent man, to the point where he had bruises of shoe prints on his body. This was a sickening attack and even if Jordan didn’t participate, he would have heard the commotion. He is as guilty as all the others. Rip Gary.

The only blind person here is his mum.

The worst thing is they have withdrawn joint enterprise from the statute. It did encourage bystanders to intervene.

Shame a responsible man defending himself and his family from danger even

"Jordan's eye sight was so bad he didn't hear anything that happened"....

As a parent of a deaf child, always keep tabs on we’re they are and who they are with. If I don’t like the group I will tell my son/daughter so. The mother can protest the child’s innocence all she wants, but was she actually there? Was she the child’s eyes? Like I’m my sons ears? No I’m not. Jordan will only know truth about what happened that night and the mother wasn’t even sympathetic towards the gentleman who was murdered.

They all used to live near me in Warrington, they were all wrongens and all deserved there sentences it was only a matter of time before something bad was going to happen around that area, how can he be blind yet be out at night come on some ones dad and husband died, all deserved longer than what they got doesn't matter about there ages.

A responsible man taken so soon

She showed no remorse for Mr Newlove, just excuses for her son who kicked a man to death. Such an example of a bad parent raising a bad kid! Jordan didn’t get a long enough sentence, should have been life as should the others.

He Sees What He Wants To see ?

I realise that it’s a really complex legal issue and that there will be loads of exceptions to this law but if I’m honest none of these examples make me disagree with the law

"Kids eyesight is so bad he didn't see or hear anything" I didn't know eyes made u hear I would stand by this law like the guy said if it wasn't the case people would just get away with murder left right and centre. If the two said noone else was involved it was just us then that would be different and I'm sure if it was just the two they wouldn't bring an innocent blind kid down with them I'm sure there would have been mention the blind kid wasn't involved but there wasn't noone would bring their pal down if he was innocent.

Does she think visualy impaired people can't kill? Also, there is too much missing information from this

the mum says her son is blind so couldnt see or hear what was happening?? hmm

If he could see well enough to be allowed out independently without any assistance required he sure as hell would have seen enough to be able to be involved. No one believes this kid stood there dumb as a door nail knowing nothing doing nothing and completely helpless. She would have done better to claim he was bullied and threatened into taking part because they picked on him for his blindness. At least then she may have fooled a couple of people. I cant decide if she knows the truth and is making excuses, or if she genuinely believes everything her kid has told her because she believes hes an angel. Most reasonable parents would say 'he made a stupid choice spending time with older boys, drinking, and being influenced by the wrong people which put him somewhere he shouldn't have been', but instead she makes it seem like everything that happened is 100% normal and a day to day activity for all 15 year olds. Honestly locked up is exactly where he should be. One day he'd end up as an abuser with the excuse 'boys will be boys'.

I'm so sorry to her but I believe her son is also just as guilty. You are the company you keep!

Why is he smirking in his police photo like he thinks it's funny that a man has been beaten to death

1,30 am blind sons out pissed get real , And mrs new love and the daughters fantastic family beautiful family. That blind kid could hear the stamping and kicking and laughing as they killed him outside his own house .

Google shows everything, her son was laughing and joking, with his killer friends in the dock from beginning to end, apparently,this documentary doesn't say that.and says he cried like a baby when sentenced.hevwas also denied parole for his conduct in prison,gang activity and alcohol consumption ,he wouldn't have gone to a prison if blind in first place ,surly!

I'm sure Ted Bundy's mum said he's a good boy in complete denial.

Garry newlove forever resting in safe hand always

Jordan's mom is a hypocrite. She and her son get a second chsnce at life together, a privilege her son took away from Garry and his family.

That "he was eating his chips away from the rest of the group as he thought they might take them off him when it happened" bullshit is right up there with "the dog ate my homework" 😐

If I had a partially blind 15 year old I wouldnt a call from the Police at 1:30am be the first I know where they are, if he can hang with mates at the park, get himself some chips and wander the street with other thugs all unaided his eyesight cant be all that bad. If there was just a hint of parenting then he would of not been there to get nicked.

Just walk forward..he heard my voice? But he outside drinking alcohol and buying chips 😭 lock him up for fake blindness as well

Rip I hope. He get a good bed in heaven 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

As well as others teenage troublemakers at that day.

Regardless of the disability, rehabilitation or treatment is in most cases way more useful than letting potentially violent prisoners out of jail aged 30 something who have been psychologically damaged even further by the institution. What does it serve society or anyone if we condemn everyone who commits a crime, or is at the scene of a crime like this. It is horrific what happened to that man, it is tragic and it cannot be taken backever, still I don't believe that making it worse does the family or the victims memory and justice. Should someone be held in full responsibility for something their friends did? Research on the bystander effect shows this, many people have been known to not intervene to help vulnerable people who were murdered across the street from them by people they knew it's a well supported phenomenon that describes how around 60% of people witnessing a crime in a group dont help. So 60% of you guys judging are included in that. It is also possible and more more than likely for some individuals that they may freeze when part of a group that is witnessing a crime or standing by. Anxiety levels and adrenaline responses of fight or flight may also cause a person to freeze; a secondary trauma response or survival mode to witnessing the violence or traumatic event, a shut down. Research has also shown that children who witness parents or adults that attack siblings but don't target them, can be equally psychologically traumatised by the experience. Wherever the responsibility luys, surely it is better to rehabilitate than to condemn people (especially children), to an even longer life of crime, like it or not that's what the legal system does. That's what the prison environment does in most cases exacerbating violent tendencies and antisocial behaviour and then they let them out to do it all over again. The only good that can come from this is rehabilitation for those who can be helped. Otherwise folks, you're paying taxes to make the situation potentially worse because the likelihood they'll get a job on release after cases like this is minimal and so turning to crime again is the easiest option all whilst you're paying their benefits. (Just something to think about).

My partner himself has been found guilty of murder because of joint enterprise even though the prosecution has agreed he didn't inflict any of these injuries. Before this happened I was like alot of people niave that there are so many people in prison doing sentences of life simply by being associated with someone who did do the crime. All my boyfriend did was get out of the car at the wrong time and that's him in prison for life. Someone who didn't get out of the car was found innocent, simple as that. Whilst every case is slightly different its really sad to see that people think leaving negative comments, if YOUR family member was in this situation would you appreciate it? No1 should die at the hands of anyone else, however no1 should be held accountable for someone else's decision.

Did this gang of kids do things similar but obviously not as severe before this incident?

To be clear jordan did not commit the crime he was simply their when it happend and due to his eyesight could not of known the full extent of what happened, well thats the argument at least

He can't see but can look straight at a camera for a photo ?! Give over.

They were honestly just responsible young girls his children protecting trying to protect their lives.

A wounded animal,what about the poor man he helped kick to death.

Should have been sent down for longer!

The mum is delusional

If you actually have a look at keratoconus vision on google, it's quite clear they can actually see.

Jordons eye condition is called eye -am-awee- fannie

Pathetic. Accept what your son did and move on with your life

Daft mare.

I don’t care about a mothers love blah blah. Your kid is involved he pays the price. He might have stood there supporting the act not ever landing a blow, you still were involved and deserve consequence

The bus took 16 minutes today after i went to finsbury park

I wonder- this would be a good idea for a mystery story- or even a thriller. If a person was a witness- a very close witness to a crime or was somehow nearby- and they were deaf and blind whether they could be held accountable or not.

Let me get this straight... her lovely murderer son could see when a fishing float went under inficating a bite qhen fishing but coukdnt see a mans gead being kicked.... pull the other one love