My Porsche Courtesy Car could prove VERY expensive ! | 4K 

Ok some highly-strung engines just don’t cope well with mileage (AMG Mercs, BMW M as you described) but Porsche engines generally do way better. Your financial maths only work if you do the oil changes yourself (massively devaluing any prestige branded car) or have a cheap car like a Fabia where a basic service is still only £250. You could spend £6000 on non-scheduled Porsche servicing just to increase the typical rebuild mileage from 125,000 to 175,000. Why bother? Better to spend that money on other items that tire with age such as new shocks and springs at 75k miles instead of waiting for them to collapse.

10,000 miles is still far too many. I'd strongly suggest changing the oil and filter every 3-5,000 miles, or at least every year, whichever comes first. Moreover, what most people don't know and what Porsche dealers don't tell you is that most owners are driving their cars in conditions that Porsche says are extreme and require halving the service interval. Extreme conditions include having driven in stop-start traffic, which is all those who daily their cars, and having driven on track.

@@neilturner6749 Quite simply, you're wrong. Engine longevity requires changing the oil and filter every 3-5,000 miles. Modern engines are increasingly complex and increasingly include components of questionable quality. We are seeing great increases in the numbers of premature catastrophic engine failures as a direct result of long service intervals. Many failures can be attributed to oil dilution and oil starvation issues. Porsche engines appear to survive better than many other high performance engines simply because most Porsches are driven regularly. However, Porsche engines suffer from lots of oil leaks as a result of the long service intervals. And the bore scoring issues that many modern Porsche engines suffer from are a direct result of oil dilution, which is greatly exacerbated by the extended service intervals. Yes, the 9x6 and 9x7 engines had design flaws that greatly increased the likelihood of problems, and warming engines from cold by idling them exacerbates those problems, but regular oil changes would have prevented most of the extremely premature engine failures. Porsche knows this full well but has stuck with ridiculously long service intervals nonetheless. Fortunately, despite most owners sticking to Porsche's service schedule, many Porsches aren't doing anywhere near 10K miles a year. But some are doing more, and I see plenty of such cars where owners have further extended the service intervals. Some owners ignore Porsche's service schedule and change the oil more regularly, and those are the cars you want to buy. You certainly don't want to buy the cars that have done more than 10k miles between oil changes. And you also don't want the cars that had their first oil change after many thousands of miles. Of course, most first owners who don't plan to keep the car beyond the manufacturer's warranty period don't care. And Porsche only cares about the cars surviving the warranty period. However, it's also worth noting that even mass market manufacturers that offer much longer warranties on much more ordinary cars are falling foul of their extended service intervals. As a general rule, I'd recommend changing the oil every 3-5,000 miles, and otherwise adhering to the manufacturer's service schedule. For most Porsche owners, this would mean doing one additional oil and filter change every two years. And for owners of older cars it is very likely to pay dividends.

Honestly you must be mad not to change your oil at least every 200 miles or every time you stop for fuel, whichever comes first. I prefer to change mine every 100 miles to be certain and I've never had an engine failure in my 1.2l VW lupo. For extra protection I use vegetable oil or baby oil if I'm feeling flush. Remember, engines are expensive. Oil is slippery.

@@BlahBloo-vd1hq🤣, absolutely 👍

After my 640d GC was hit in 2021, I was given a 840dx coupe as a loan car. I bought my 840i GC last year😂.

@@k17sher the six series GC was a far more beautiful car than the new eight series in my opinion . I’ve owned both of them .

That’ll be Harwoods then 😜👍

In fairness, we've seen Ped wash a car before... 🙈

Oy 😮😂

@PetrolPed I only say it out of kindest, Peter! You know it's true! 😄

@@rotorhead5006My metallic black Boxster had the softest paint I’ve ever had on a car…..it was terrible, washing it was a worrying event.

@harrycummings6501 I can imagine. Seen too many horrors at dealerships, and elsewhere, so don't let anybody loose on my cars now!

I know right 😮

Is this available for other brands like MINI owners clubs?

If you are a member of PCGB you use 98/99 Ron fuel you can buy Esso fuel to put in your mower. Other Esso fuels, I think the discount is less. I think you can join PCGB if you don’t have a Porsche. I’m sure there are T&C s on the website. Membership is circa £70/75, so you would need to use a lot of fuel to recoup this in a year. But there are many other benefits to being a member if you own a Porsche.

I’m old school. 10:000 miles is the max I would do without a service. I could be wrong but I believe manufacturers just want us to ruin the engine within 100,000 miles.

How was the 959 & 718 spyder?

@@jamesarmitage8399 :-) Clever dick! The Spyder was wonderful! Thanks for asking.

Did you watch the Video? My 05 Boxster S had oil change intervals of 20,000 miles or two years. It was later amended to 12,000 miles or one year. Bear in mind the oil capacity is 8 quarts.

Great cars but sadly it was a press car 😢

I've been given a low-spec golf as a courtesy car from OPC.

For six years in a row my local county council boasted that they had not raised Council Tax, meanwhile the very structures that they were responsible for are failing. You get what you pay for.

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Thanks for sharing!

Glad you enjoyed it

I agree, you couldn't pull your foreskin back with that engine it's wheezy and gutless. Hard to believe it's the same lump in the Golf GTi.

Getting the garage done first 😂

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Agree with the cleaning, even if only a quick sloosh with a soft mop in a bucket and cold hose over the wheels. Learnt from riding motorbikes in winter the salt corrosion is terrible.

You want to stay off the drugs mate.

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Dealers tended to fit air ride on their demos but only the insane buyer would’ve specced it on a 2.0 Macan - it was way too much £ as a % of the cars value and took it up into V6 money. I say “took it” as ICE Macan is now done for the EU market, I believe.

@@neilturner6749 curious cuz I've had 4 of these as loaners, only one of them had it

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Pete's is 2.5 but I get what you are saying

Yep big continuity error 👍🏻

Check out the trees, no leaves

Noted that but, not the end of the world. Nice to see again what it used to look like!

😃yeah took me months to notice it on my wheel! I use the manual shift paddles so rarely that the auto-revert back to full-automatic mode never bothered me.

Peds wasn’t in for a standard 2 year service, his car’s from 2018 or 2019, so was scheduled for a “Major Inspection” based upon age. He should’ve made that clearer.

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Glad you enjoyed it

Apparently if you take out the extended warranty, fitting tyres outside the dealer network can invalidate the warranty. Remember Block exemption does not apply to manufacturers extended warranty.

I’ve never heard of exhaust voiding a warranty, except maybe on the exhaust itself.

@@hbullockyep if you’ve only changed Cat-&-OPF rearwards (ie back box) that doesn’t impact warranties.

@@robinoconnor1203 i put Zunsport grills on my 718 and was told it invalidates the warranty.

I’ve never heard of a cat-back voiding a warranty. But start messing with headers and cats, or intakes and tunes, and you are playing with fire.

I think that level of discount is for R17 Southern Region members and may not apply to all

Noted, thank you.​@@pmgsussex

For every day usage and normal driving, I defo agree with the Audi being 90% of a Macan but for use as a driver’s car, the Audi barely hits 60%. In this guise, the Macan runs rings around the Audi all day long. Courses for horses, I guess.

That’s the way to do it. ❤ Good for you 👍🏻

Cool story bro

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There are treatments available the the soft top 👍

Sadly though , a non-Porsche service history inside the warranty period is curtains for your used price.

Ah 😢

Surely not, actually taking the biscuit, I would actually refuse it 😂

Picanto? 😉

Strange… Porsche Colchester only provide Porsche courtesy cars… I’ve had Caymans and Boxsters. Recently I had a Macan S after requesting one as Mrs Kramer has a Macan on her list of possibles to replace her current truck.

Yes. Well spotted 👍

Thank God, thanks I’ll stay on the trancs!

Yep. Same with any premium car.

Yep. Good spot 👍

Cool, thanks

Always great to have a community of like minded people to interact with. I have only been to a couple of events but impressed so far. There are also some online groups and forums you could join. On Facebook for example. Just be ready for a complete spread of opinions 😂

@@PetrolPed thanks, I don’t really do Facebook or Forums as like you say, too many varied opinions from people who don’t really know too much. As a huge Porsche lover I thought you would be part of the club. It costs £85 I believe and could save you that on your next tires maybe. I’ll look in to it more, thanks