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My RO froze! - (also Q&A and info on building my RO and blower) Off Grid Maple Syrup 2024 

Samuel Wiltzius
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This was a record cold spell for boiling and it provided a number of new challenges. I also answer some common questions about maple syruping and provide information about my set up.
Chapters:
01:39 End of Intro
02:32 Day 1 summary
03:41 Day 2 start
04:45 Starting an RO at 8°F
12:32 Q&A - pan boil depth
13:54 Q&A - sap preheater
14:50 Q&A - what would I change on the RO
15:50 Q&A - variable speed fire blower
19:02 Q&A - refractometer vs hydrometer
19:47 Q&A - firewood size and type
21:54 Q&A - spreadsheets and references
24:10 RO froze up
29:27 Day 3 start/finishing
Variable Speed Blower Parts
motor speed controller www.amazon.com...
blower www.amazon.com...
12V transformer www.amazon.com...
Useful Documents
Data Spreadsheet link: offgridcabin.f...
RO parts list link: sap-calculator.numbers-parts-list.jpg
RO operation guide: offgridcabin.f...
500ml RO beaker chart: offgridcabin.f...
Hot Brix chart: offgridcabin.f...

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Комментарии : 5   
@ÁREAJ27
@ÁREAJ27 6 месяцев назад
Olá amigos que lugar fantástico!!! Muito bom trabalho e lhes desejo muita saúde e cada vez mais sucesso!!!
@austinsmith8498
@austinsmith8498 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate the question/answer time! One question that I like to know: What is the maximum concentration you can get with RO alone? And what is the limiting factor? Is it that after a certain concentration it isn't removing water faster than the boil rate? Or is the RO simply incapable of processing a fluid over a certain concentration?
@samuelwiltzius
@samuelwiltzius 6 месяцев назад
Excellent question - and one that is impossible to put an exact number on; the membranes can only tolerate so much ‘stuff’ before water can’t pass through - I’ve maxed out at 1250 ppm (this number includes sugar and minerals and the more minerals the lower the max sugar % that can be reached). For birch sap I maxed at brix 6.3 because of the extremely high mineral content. With maple, using this years data on ppm the theoretical max would be 22%, but 15-18% is probably more realistic as a max because as the % rises membranes fowl much faster and eventually flushing every 5 hours would drop to maybe even hourly. Warmer liquid may also increase efficiency but may not result in a higher % in the real world. Yes - I boil match. If I slowed the boil I would match concentrate production (GPH); which would give a higher sugar % but fowl membranes faster and decrease the amount of water removed each hour. For example I recorded about 4 GPH conc and 10 GPH perm at 7.5 brix vs. 10 GPH conc and 15 GPH perm at 5.8 brix I could run the RO overnight but I’d need an auto-off in case something fails and also temperatures would need to be above freezing. So far I can’t justify the risk of an unsupervised RO in my setup.
@user-zn5cy2yz6t
@user-zn5cy2yz6t 5 месяцев назад
I have 3 -100 GPD membranes and I’m running at 100 psi . But in order to get to .5 % I have to run it twice should I add more membranes??
@samuelwiltzius
@samuelwiltzius 5 месяцев назад
you can increase to 120-130 psi, add more membranes, or put both permeate and concentrate in the same barrel and run until you reach the desired brix. When I do birch sap I dump the conc. line back into the sap barrel and run until I get a fairly high brix, then move the conc. line into a pot until the pot is full and barrel empty.
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