My sister tries to guess which Servants are gender-swapped in Fate/Grand Order [LIVE] 

"yo Francis can i get your spirit origin for a sec"

I’m pretty sure it’s heavily implied that’s what actually happened as well and it brings up a lot of questions.

More of the servant being his perfections of genius, form, personality etc. The Mona Lisa but with all his intelligence and technical craftsmanship.

@@DracoSafarius nope it simply just that he want to look like her it that simple so he force himself to take that form as a servant

@@hikarihakai1285 Not really. Servants get everything from the person and myth/beliefs about them. In Da Vinci's case his sheer pursuit of perfection, and the belief that the Mona Lisa represented physical beauty perfection makes the servant version a conglomeration of all the perfections in the perfect container (Mona Lisa). It's similar to Van Gogh, but differing scenarios to set it up

@@DracoSafarius Da Vinci Profile, Bond 3 - Golden Rule (Body): B Possesses a body that is perfect and beautiful, like a goddess. Leonardo gained this skill when he "redesigned" his body into the female Mona Lisa.

You can claim that, but at the end of the day, the Servant's name is Van Gogh. ;)

@@pokedude900 so was Vincent Van Gogh's sister. Van Gogh is a last name.

@@adrastos8401 Also just done for servant designation, since the abilities are more Van Gogh. Event she appears in even has her recognize she's Clytie

Actually it more proves the point that this man has no idea what he's doing. He picked pictures that gave very little in the way of clues and provided almost no hints. The whole thing feels exceedingly NOT thought through. You're not wrong but ...

If it wasn't for Fate, I wouldn't know most of these people. Never learned any myths in school and only know the ones I do because that have enough influence for someone like Disney to make a movie based on them. And we basically didn't do much of World History and our American History was basically, "this is what the war was about, these are the results" for most of the class.

Good ideas, but I didn't have any of that prepared, lol.

No, as I understand it, they were believed to have been intersex. Biologically neither male nor female. This is different from being trans, where one has a clear biological sex but a differing gender identity.

​@@pokedude900 after checking Wikipedia I'm now more confused but some modern scholars say they were trans but there's just alot so yeah

@@Iplay37 Those "modern scholars" say a lot of stuff to push certain narratives. You're better off doing your own research or talking to actual historians

@@MW_Asura theres really no narritive to push here, d'eon lived their life as a spy that while typically fulfilling masculine jobs, i.e. fighting in the 7 years war, was widely notorious for being very androgynous to the point there was a bet going in london on their sex, they were later in life assigned the legal gender of female. The awkward part comes from the post mortem in which the surgeon certified that D'eon had male 'organs' she also had 'remarkably full breasts', if you think this is some kinda narrative, take your own advice, do some research, its in D'eons official biography written 1888.