'[My son] didn't deserve the way he died,' Florida mother denied abortion recounts experience 

What god? That Republican creation that keeps their people scared and under the control of the cult?

But we don't want to change the corporate for profit health care and big insurance industry in this country. Yah, we are "pro-life".🙄What a joke.

This is exactly what Putin wants, a weakened democracy, divided society, diminished education, theocratic bigots and weaker healthcare. He wants to destroy our society. And... Thomas lined his pockets! Where is the problem? MAGA!

@@deborahrivera6064 right? it's amazing how pro lifers are only pro life before they're born.

Yes, this is completely unacceptable. This is why patients and doctors need to be making these decisions together without politicians interfering.

Imagine the pain of the baby. To us, it's an amount of suffering that lasts less time than a movie. To the baby, it was his entire lifetime.

@@mynameisworld No one deserves this. Milo deserved better. I hope all women can stand together and remember stories like this when it's time to vote. It is our responsibility to ensure that this unique kind of cruelty never happens again.

@@CaIypsoJ Yes, this is the REAL political interference they talk about. Politics interfering with family life. or in the baby's case horrible death.

​@@nannie2846It's the death panels they claimed the ACA would establish that never happened. These are all too real, even when their laws claim an abortion to save the life of the mother is legal.

Pro-death and anti-rainbow baby

anti choice fr fr

And profitable for the medical industrial industry. Extra money for high level care and the added bonus of life long trauma caused by the states wrongful intrusion on a personal matter It’s not t about “ the babies”. It never has been. It’s about power, 🧑‍🏫 t and control

Neither the family, the mother, or the child should have had to suffer like that. Our constitution forbids cruel and unusual punishment. To me this was all that and more.

@@lynnjudd9036 Read some of the comments on this page. There are some truly horrendous humans coming out of the woodwork, since the interwebs gave everyone world wide access to each other.

Cruelty is the point.

She chose not to get an abortion. The whole story is a lie. Why do you people get suckered by every grifter?

It's what their cruel God apparantly wants, and now they're going to force those beliefs on you. Nice theocracy.

Really ?

White women voted for Trump in 2016. Support equal rights for men and you'll get more support from men.

​@@user-ij6vg8xq2rBlack men have been shown to be the highest percentage wanting to protect our reproduction rights so we already have that, thank you..

​@@Swnsasy You need every vote you can get, and denying men equal treatment under the law isn't the way to increase support.

​@@Swnsasyoakland, the bay area and surrounding democrat hoods..are not thankful for that ...right now. 😂

shut up

Very true.😞

I'm sorry we don't treat animals the way that women treat unborn child while they claim to have an absolute right to order the intentional murder of their child. Can you tell us what other right any of us enjoy which is absolute? What other one? Even the 5th Amendment says "No person shall be...deprived of life, liberty, or property; without due process of law..." Even here, our right to life is not absolute but the right to an abortion is according to people like you. According to your ilk, a mother who has an abortion can go from the abortion to the jury box in a case involving someone who claims they took another life to save their life and she could find that person guilty of murder and choose not to believe they acted out of necessity but no one can do that for her? That is absurd! Likewise, she can go from having an abortion because she believed "My 99 minute year old son didn't deserve to die that way" to sitting in judgment of a mother who smothers her 40 year old intentionally because "My 40 year old son didn't deserve the way he died..." This is a double standard that is NOT acceptable in a society that is based on the Rule of Law. There are a lot of people who believe a lot of things about their "rights" but there is NOT a single right, not one, that is absolute. Yet, you are suggesting there is an absolute right to abortions. The claim that "Force that fetus to term and then allowing it to gasp out it's life is absolute and utter cruelty." Just say what you mean because it is better if you do. You believe that we are a society based on the Rule of Man where men and women like you decide what is and isn't cruel and what you can do and what others can't do. It doesn't matter if people disagree with you, because you can be a juror who finds someone else guilty of murder when they say they were acting in self-defense after you or your family have an abortion because according to you your family has an absolute right to an abortion but others don't have an absolute right to self-defense. It would be interesting to see a conversation between you the juror who had an abortion and the mother of the person you convicted: You: I found your child guilty of murder because I didn't believe they acted in self defense and they don't have an absolute right to save their own life Mother: My son did act in self-defense and it was necessary for them to take a life to save their lives You: I don't care, I don't believe them and I request that the judge issue a sentence of capital punishment because your child can be deprived of the non-absolute right to life Mother: You clearly had an abortion, and claim that those of us who see it as murder can't judge it because it is an absolute right and not subject to the Rule of Law You: You are right, I can take a life in the case of abortion because I say it's an absolute right and not subject to the Rule of Law Mother: So what is subject to the Rule of Law and what isn't subject to the Rule of Law and instead subject to the Rule of Man or the Rule of You> You: Whatever I and those I vote for or crown say at any given moment. That's what!!!!! Get used to the Rule of Us as voters and jurors like your families did when we had monarchs

He died in excruciating pain. What a horrible law made by a horrible government. So sorry for her and her family.

​@@forgetitfolksabor n is not murd r, it is healthcare i don't know what is so difficult for You to understand it

Of course they don't. Their only concern is to force women to give birth, they don't care about the health or welfare of the child they claim to protect. If they did, they wouldn't fight against programs to help that child after it is born. That child doesn't matter again until it reaches the age of 18 and can be sent off to war or forced to spend the rest of their life in corporate slavery. At that point, what matters isn't the child itself, but corporate profits.

They don’t care. It’s about their profit

Plus huge medical bills from those 99 minutes of suffering. This poor family.

she mentioned how it wasn't covered by their insurance.

Its also about 15k-30k just to give birth. With insurance its still 6k AFTER insurance covering.

Self deleting is illegal. Do you also advocate for the ability to do that?

It belongs to Trump!

As a man I don't have the right to use my body to murder somebody else. When you live in a society you don't have the right to do whatever you want with your body you can't murder other people you can't murder your children. Sometimes people are forced into taking vaccinations they don't want this is wrong but stopping people from murdering children is not wrong. Men are forced by women to go to court against their will and then take DNA from their body against their will and then forced to work a job they might not want to work against their will to take care of your child they might not want to take care of against their will. Men were forced to fight in wars while women got to sit home So let's not pretend like men in America in the west are trying to control women because we don't support murdering babies.. Look at the three of the countries that support abortion all the way up to birth these are countries that control women. That would be atheist humanist North Korea atheist humanist China and Israel which is 80% atheist humanist. In China a woman can get an abortion all the way up to birth but then again the male government forces women in China to get an abortion against their will. In Israel a woman can get an abortion all the way up to birth but not without a Jewish man's permission. Those are examples of men controlling a woman's body making it illegal to murder another human being is no more controlling a woman's body then telling her it's illegal for her to murder at 40 year old innocent woman standing on the street corner on top of all this we live in a constitutional republic with a representative democracy. The Constitution is the supreme law of the land. The Constitution and the scientific method proves that murdering children is a violation of the Constitutional right to life. If you don't want to live under a constitutional republic maybe America just isn't for you. I hate the idea of children born in the United States to illegal immigrant parents are automatically American citizens. But I would never support a state ignoring the fact that they are. If we just pick and choose the parts of the Constitution that we want to follow whenever something becomes stylish then the Constitution becomes useless.

It belongs to the gop.

@@TheRealCrimdor No one is censoring you. Or are you just AI?

​@@JoeByeDumb you obviously didn't see the video. Those topics were discussed - her family was not rich enough for her to travel, she was beyond that threshhold to get an abortion. The doctors don't want to risk their freedom. Since her life wasn't in danger - she could not get an abortion as an exception.

@@JoeByeDumb i bet your mom and dad are brother and sister.

Educate yourself on what ACTUALLY occurred with this family before drawing a betting man’s conclusions.

@@JoeByeDumbfair points

@@pamschneider8493 what would you suggest I do fly into her State interview her personally, than go to the hospital interview the doctors. Than go to the courts petition the hospital to access the medical records so I can see if everybody's telling me the truth I doubt the courts would Grant me access. Do you think it would be logical to believe what MSNBC is telling me MSNBC who is overwhelmingly biased in favor of abortion MSNBC that has a reputation of constantly lying and being intellectually dishonest What I'm doing is going on the unlimited information that I have and I'm coming to the best conclusion I could based on the limited information I have access to

There are, unfortunately, many more men than just SCOTUS justice's involved in this war on women.

Vote Blue, for our freedoms and sanity as women!! Vote Blue, for men and women who TRUST women to make decisions about their own bodies.

So let me get this straight she's so upset that she wasn't able to get a doctor to rip the limbs off her baby until the baby dies in agony because she didn't want her baby to go through the pain 🤔. The radical left doesn't care about the 70 million babies that were murdered over the last half a century or so all of a sudden they care about a baby feeling pain. You got the right to use your body for many things but not to murder another person. You may not like the fact that a human being at the fetus stage of life is a person but it's a biological fact proven by the scientific method I would suggest anybody who doesn't want to live under America's Constitution leave America By the way the radical left supports abortion even if a woman wants to get it a day before the baby's going to be born just so the baby can die and complete agony having a slims ripped off even if the mother thinks that's hilarious. The left supports abortion under any condition. Selective abortion is murder.

​@@JoeByeDumb said a whole lot of nothing

@@wooshydog I said a whole lot of informative things , unlike yourself who did nothing but express your feel feels, evidently out of intellectual frustration.

@@JoeByeDumb and yet your comment got deleted Whole lot of nothing

@@JoeByeDumb the baby was born only to have died anyway, it had personhood and it was breathing air before it passed She wanted a abortion to prevent that suffering How is abortion bad but pulling the plus of a brain dead relative isn't???

And yet a million fertile women move there a year lol

​@elijahobviously1288 where are you getting your info from. Please provide proof

@@jaleaha1114 Census bureau, although the precise number is more like a couple hundred thousand. I was being facetious.

@elijahobviously1288 And your implied premise is that women move to Florida particularly because they love the laws and (lack of) healthcare there? Most people move because of job opportunities, family, or nicer weather in the case of Florida. Your comment does not make any sense in the original context.

​@@elijahobviously1288 From the census bureau: In 2022, the 60-to-69-year-old age group represented the largest share of people moving to Florida from other states, according to the data, taken from the U.S. Census Bureau's American Community Survey. The second-largest age group moving to Florida was people ages 50 to 59." So the two most represented groups are postreproductive, retirement age people.

@@JoeByeDumb typical MAGA supporter. Always looking past the simple truth searching for a conspiracy theory to use 😡

​@@JoeByeDumb forget the fact her body is nun of your business. Period.

​@@JoeByeDumb what you are describing is abortion done after 10 weeks. FYI - that type of abortion takes several minutes in total. From the woman entering the office and exiting - barely 15 minutes. And most of that time its just to wait for the painkillers to kick in. During that type of abortion, they go for the head first because its the largest part. So death is quick as a bullet. So lets compare - barely 5 minutes with immediate destruction of the brain or 99 minutes of slow agonizing suffocation? Plus, at that period of gestation, the fetus does not feel pain because to feel it you have to have consciousness. And that part of the brain forms by the 28th week! So there is no pain for the fetus either way.

Right

There shouldn't be abortion laws, except possibly in the case of late term abortion, but I'm not sure those are even necessary as late term abortion is rare and typically don't happen except in the most extreme circumstances.

Democrats had 40+ years and multiple opportunities to codify Roe v Wade, but didn't because it is unconstitutional. It takes away the rights of an unborn child

This is a heart breaking story, no doubt. As heart breaking as it is lets look at some facts, Whilst Florida has draconian laws about abortion, there are many states that have sensible laws on abortion. Did this young lady go off quietly to one of those states, Or in May last year did she make a public display of her plight assisted by the media for democrats political gain. She certainly could of afforded to go anywhere if she had received money for her story and her "Go Fund Me" enhanced by nation wide publicity . She had the opportunity to do what was right and humane.

​@DOWNUNDER. Clearly, you did not listen to the whole interview, and yet you chose to comment anyway. They talked about her inability to pay for an abortion somewhere else , and the struggle they are having now with therapy and medical bills etc

@@DOWNUNDER. Translation: Don't talk about your plight. Tough cookies, go off quietly somewhere else and "handle" business. Definitely a Rethug.

​@@DOWNUNDER. So by your facts....she is responsible for finding the help that should have been readily available had it not been for wrinkled old white men dictating a woman's right to her body. By your facts she has the money, time and resources by travel to wherever to get help. By your facts she along with democrats are the blame. Got it....GTH

Yet "Republicans" pretend to be for small government while demanding the government be in the womb, in the doctors office, in the family home, in the bedroom, in the pharmacists office, in the insurance office, etc, etc etc.

If you don't want anyone in your womb just don't put sperm in it during ovulation. Super easy 👍

​@@elijahobviously1288 men need to have self control

@@wooshydog Let's not be simps lol. Both men and women need to have self control.

@@elijahobviously1288it’s not simping to say women should have bodily autonomy.

The fallout from not allowing abortion include possible health concerns, mental health challenges for not just the mother but all family members, possible dissolution of a marriage that can lead to all kinds of problems including poverty, possible suicide, the pain and suffering of extended family, altered decision making about future children in case this happens again, and so much more... Trump and his scotus cronies and his maga minion party are sick.

wdym she looks healthy to me

@@elijahobviously1288 Mental health is a major factor in physical health. And when someone is suicidal, being dead is not being healthy.

@@user-gl5ls6di3t So let me get this straight: "The GOP destroyed ANY POSSIBILITY of a healthy result for the mother" because "the mother was sad that her baby died" which is the GOP's fault because "if the mother had ripped the arms and legs off her baby she would have been less sad". And all of this is supposedly destroying the woman's chances of a healthy outcome because "mental health is a major factor in physical health"??? Hey it sounds super logical to me man. Just confirming...

​@@elijahobviously1288"what do you mean, comrade? Her body looks perfect for breeding!"

No no no you’re confusing a baby that’s postbirth with a prebirth situation. Prebirth: “We will dye for that person’s well being! There is nothing more important!” Postbirth: “K good luck kid you’re a vile sinner now.”

Save the Babies, Democrats are MONSTERS, lol

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

The Democrat Frankenstein LABORATORY, lol

​@@Thomas-il8ph It appears you find amusement in their pain.

@@t.h.8475 you Support Biden, who showers with his daughter Ashley, according to her diary. Lol Well, they don't call him CREEPY JOE FOR NOTHING, And You Support him, lol Creep

All the money given to Clarence Thomas would be better spent for these families.

Very well said. Excellent description

Yeah I can't believe republicans invented Potter's Syndrome /s

You're right. No one who actually cares about life would accept what happened to Milo.

A lot won’t cover it or only cover a few visits, if you’re not ill with a DSM pathology.

Most insurance will not. If yours does, you are one of the fortunate few and likely wealthy.

yes, this woman obviously doesn't know what HER OWN insurance will cover. You of course, know better. FFS

I know many that don't, mine included. It used to, but it is another thing we have lost due to conservatives.

coverage of psychological/psychiatric therapy is very, very spotty with insurance companies.

But that can't be the only answer we need to protect women's rights to make these decisions