@@dustyswords296 ahahaha man i was extra nervous during the coaching, usually i play a bit more aggressive on my own. I wanted to use the coaching to ask a lot of questions I had previously. I never played against cho as fiora so i wasn't sure how to approach the matchup and unfortunately only have 20 games on fiora vs 100 on shen. Rewatching this now is making my skin crawl with how passive I played the matchup and lack of cc anticipation for my w.
@@eug4684 yeah i figured ive been coached before too, it def makes people nervous 😆 Fio definitely a champ that takes a lot games too, im almost 100 games on fio now
This seems like a situation where the player doesn't have the mechanics to play the champion, it looks like he's trying to turn a steering wheel and he's over correcting and fighting against the car each move. If this is just from a lack of games it can be a case of putting 200 games in on Fiora. She's a very difficult champion to play properly and even pro players shy away from the pick in favour of something with similar rewards but easier execution such as Camille. If ELO is his only goal, his Shen seems much more worth his time and effort, he already has 100 games on it and a very solid 60% win rate. Can definitely shoot through platinum with that.
Fiora is a champion who benefits mechanically from click accuracy and general fundamental micro skill as well though, so she's a really good champion in order to express and improve those skills which will apply to your play as a whole much better than learning other mechanical champions like maybe yasuo or Irelia for example
I agree, Fiora is champion designed to fight. if they want to sit back and farm and come into the game at 16 a monster may as well play something like kayle.
Honestly Silver elo into low gold used to be kind of difficult for me, but manageable. After watching your videos silver and gold elo is crazy easy! I had no idea that macro was such a huge part of the game.
@@Matt-ww9wv i dont think thats the problem if you see from this u need the mechanics to carry hard, hes only wining because hes fiora, you should be going 5-0 in lane every time
Macro can solo win games until diamond tbh. You don't know how many teams I see get an ace, have a chance to just straight end. Then go baron instead...
I started watching your vids about a month ago and have started seeing improvements when asking a lot of the questions you ask when evaluating what to do next.
This, along with your other videos have been extremely informative to watch. I was in iron for a long time and was always mad that I couldn't climb out. I stopped playing ADC and mid, started watching your vids and playing top lane, watching how to freeze waves, when to back, how to take trades, etc and now I'm in silver! Still really low, but I still have a ton to learn but I keep climbing and it feels great! Thanks NEACE!
@@moneybuas4942 strat: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jZAG1pYSHd0.html result: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Fn23YF83WQE.html .... almost forgot- Have fun!
@@moneybuas4942 "Teaching a Gold player Wave Management!" From 2 months ago, "Gold play learns LANING and MACRO!" 2 months ago, as well as any of the videos that say things like "learning fundamentals" will most likely show you as well.
NEACE's macro play was really good for this Fiora, but his client doesn't have the mechanical skill, the mental, and the confidence to play fiora. Fiora is a champ that represents how many hours you put into her. He didn't really understand his dmg very well. I feel as if he could snowball way harder if he just had the confidence.
Watching this guy on 3 item fiora still walking back on trades instead of just shitting on whoever walks in front of him was a little frustrating, but it was nice seeing you direct him to the win.
Hey, Neace your content has been amazing for me to watch I am not even able to play ranked yet I have been playing for about 2 weeks now and your videos help me understand what I need to be thinking about while playing the game
Hey, I discovered this coaching vids recently and they are amazing!!! There is not much macro learning stuff around so thank you very much for sharing! Greetings from Argentina! Keep on with the good work
This is a great example of a match where practically every player is in the correct elo. Some players will learn from that and some won't even know it's the truth.
I know this is kinda late, but going into a brush doesn't reset the vital, you have to go out of the vital range before it can reset or wait for the timer
I'm terrible at this game. Can you tell me why he keeps going back into the brush? Is it a mechanic that's tied to fiora that needs to be reset, or is it minion agro?
@@moneybuas4942 fiora her vitals reset then, you should try and reset it when the vital is in a bad spot (if the vital is north or east, it will always reset to south or west and vice versa)
@@moneybuas4942 both, he did it for vital reset, and to hold the minion wave for a freeze, when you go into bush minions loses aggro and you get less damage taken rather than walking away normally. Also if you walk away into your tower one might follow you and ruin your freeze if you're on the edge of tower range
Hey Neace!. How do u choose the people you coach?. Is it random? How much do u charge. Gold 3 currently. Been watchinging your RU-vid Vid for years. Even when u went to Fortnite. Response would be Great. Keep it up!👏👏
Thank you for another Fiora Coaching! I love it and it helps me a lot I guess. Please more Fiora! > Have a Question, i have a 40 Ping and want to OTP Fiora. I feel like i can't parry all the thinks just with reation time cause of the delay. And some ppl you can't predict cause they make it randomly cause you are Fiora. There must be a thing i can do, but what? Can someone help me? (Already have 150MP)
I duno what to tell u buddy if u cant reaction parry on 40ping then your reaction spd just ain't good enough. Try anticipating them using cc will make it easier to react, e.g as neace said if Lee qs in he could be looking for a kick so perhaps parry preemptively, it's much easier to react if you are alrdy thinking and considering what the enemies next move is. Or perhaps consider moving to Korea I hear they have good ping there
It's always possible to comeback in low elo games, everybody just needs to get rid of the loser mentality, so frustrating to see players quitting for nothing, sometimes it's just the comp, when you go more late game based than early and fot that should we press yes on the FF? Hell nah!!! The ff function is OVERATED
Neace, I need some help please, I am from South Africa and would like to get some coaching from you, I just need help with regards to time zone, if it says 4 pm on my booking sheet and I book, is that 4pm my time or your time?
Hey dude, just hit F12, and copy paste this into the little area to the right of the blue " > " thing. var videoElement = document.querySelector("video") var audioCtx = new AudioContext() var source = audioCtx.createMediaElementSource(videoElement) var gainNode = audioCtx.createGain() gainNode.gain.value = 3 // double the volume source.connect(gainNode) gainNode.connect(audioCtx.destination) Don't worry, it will go back to normal as soon as you close the browser. I chose number 3, usually is good enough. But you can change it to any number like 2.5 for example
In general it seems like he lacked a lot of game knowledge. There were things where Neace told him what to do and he asked why because he didn't understand, such as why Fiora can just walk up to Cho and he can't do anything about it. The matchup just really favors Fiora yet he played it too passively.
@@forrestforce that + you are scared that you would take a bad fight and fk your lane. sure fiora vs cho should be a fairly easy matchup where you can be bold af, but if you haven't played the champ a ton, ur always kinda scared to go in no matter the matchup
That guy would benefit/improve so much if he went to a second account and learned fundamentals, micro stuff, trading, positioning in lane phase and overall, understanding how much of hp you can give in certain times, recall timing, mouse clicking placement (he's clicking too far away from his champion), there's a lot to improve here, and that's why I used to play, of course, I wanted to win, but when you focus on your mistakes and see your improvement is a great feeling.
Discord's streaming and voice chat have a delay though, so by the time neace told him to let go he already went in. I agree that it was painful to watch though
This guy doesn’t do the QW slideparry? Damn I got a headache from watching even though I’m sort of a starter lol. Plus Cho Gath’s knockup is very noticeable well maybe I just play way too aggressive lol
I'm watching this game, and I'm thinking, "This is fairly decent for Bronze." Neace: "What Elo is this?" Student: "Low Gold." Me: "Pffffffffffffffffffft...!!!"
Neace I hope you still have plans for wildrift. You can get a big following at launch. Dont take views before launch as what will happen post launch. Just be consistent. Mobile gaming is the future whether people laugh at it or not, these mobile games have huge viewer potential.
This game was really interesting... Judging by this laning I thought he was bronze but his teamfights were actually pretty good and maybe better than mine as silver 2 (apart from not using ult enough)
Rabbadons really scales well after having other items. You dont need voidstaff unless they will be building mag resist. If they have tanks, look at building void. Try a mana sustain item first, like tear or lost chapter into their pertaining items
@@astrogaser8015 it's a mind game. If they are stacking Hp items on their team, then you need to buy a liandries, if they are stacking magic resist grab void. If they are all squishy, grab that rabbadons. An easy trick I use to know what items to buy is this. If my team has 3 or more magic damage champs, I know the enemy team will PROBABLY pick up alot of magic resist. If I have 3 or more magic champs on my team, I quickly buy void staff. It's being proactive rather than reactive. You're already shredding through the magic resist as they are buying it. That rule also depends on your elo. If you're really low elo, your enemy team might not know to even stack mr vs a heavy magic damage team
Also, I dont know if you need rylais on anivia. She already has alot of cc, denial, and slows (the slow from her ulti when she charges it up fully) Liandries also has that awesome affect of doing more damage to enemies who are ccd or slowed. That works off of your q/r. You dont really need the rylias
For me, one of the most frustrating things to watch was the way the player walked back and forth with no intent. Moving around is can be good if you are trying to make it hard to anticipate where you're going, but this guy kept moving without any reason. By the time he needed to react he wasn't in the position he needed to be. Sometimes it's fine to stand still. Especially if you're out of range of enemy attacks.
You can tell he’s mechanically challenged on fiora. I’d stick to tanks until you’re comfortable with playing something less forgiving, fiora is difficult. If you spam her at this rate you’ll never climb. After watching further, he doesn’t understand how strong fiora really is. That’s top 3 most broken champs in LoL he’s gotta play her like one.
@@esponjososugarbaby yeah these are the picks I would recommend for sure. Easy to pick up, but you can develop over time and get very good with them. Very strong top laners
Well, she had one of the easiest matchups imaginable. Fiora shits on tanks, and every other immobile top that she can dance around. In addition, all of their cc is predictable. You always know when the Cho knock up is coming, when the Ori lit is coming, and when the Panth stun is coming, so it's very easy to block it. The hardest thing to predict is the Lee kick, but that doesn't really matter, since it's unplayable for Lee even if he gets to kick her. Edit: tbh the Lee kick isn't hard to predict either, if you understand the champion. But Lee players might play mind games vs Fiora, to bait out the block. Since this is gold I don't think the Lee is competent enough to do that though.
i literally can't win lane against fiora... I don't understand it. She heals any dmg I deal to her, and she has a gap closer. How do you win against a fiora in lane? Can't possibly trade....? (plat btw)
I hate it when we ace in match, and all my team wants to do is take Baron... Like, just push towers and inhibs. When we have taken Inhibs, they'll be too busy dealing with super minions to challenge a Baron. And then it's auto win. Baron is something to duel for or take at the right timing late game, not something you take after a teamfight. At least IMO. Superminions are WAY too important to get going IMO.
