My Teenage Dream ruined - Toyota 86 Review 

Supra review! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8gJoZtQFrHY.html

You tried to trade photoshoots for a car? No shit that didnt work out lmao

Hakone it's a mountain road with too many curves in Japan, so i guess it's pretty obvious that the 86 was designed for that type of roads.

Basically the car’s rad but LA sucks lol

I daily this and I can’t agree with most points. Re: the doors yeah but that’s a coupe problem not an 86 problem. Feeling like this was a tad biased.

Your problem is being in love with driving while living in a metropolitan area. You're just not going to ever be happy driving there.

I have one in LA. And none of these points really hit me except the doors.. I daily mine and traffic sucks. But traffic sucks in any car..

Owned a 2013 86 for the past 4 years. 140k km on the clock. No one talks about how reliable it is. I live in Dubai with extremely hot weather and the car has had no issues thus far. Slow in straight line but keep it in the high rev band on a twisty road with stickier tires, no one will ever say it's slow.

I'm mid '50s and daily driven one of these for 5 years. It's such fun and even in the urban situation it makes the commute more enjoyable. I even look forward to getting stopped at lights and navigating roundabouts. Best thing though, when you take it on a road trip: the seats are so comfortable you can be in there all day and get no backaches; it will cruise all day on the German highways at 100mph+ and very stable; great fun in the mountains and on the last trip there was space with the seats folded for 2 people's luggage and six 12 bottle cases of wine (try doing that in an MX-5/Miata). Such fun, such versatility.

Judging a car's value from the perspective of living in a congested California city? Even eating toast in a congested California city is a rotten proposition.

Use my 86 everyday no problem. Love it

My 86 is my every day car. Sun, rain, snow. Going to work, shopping, I fill it full of stuff for tip runs. It's great fun any time.

I felt a lot of the same things with this car. However, the car is a driving clinic. After a month or so the car changed the way I drove. Come to find out this car does a great job of making you a faster drive and later it was easy to add torque and power to this great chassis and I was left with what was a very good car for not much at all. I would love to let you drive mine. I have a new Supra and I love it but that little 2014 FR-S with its few mods does some things the Supra still can’t.

Dailying my frs is the best part of my commute. I’m 6”0 and I’m more comfortable in my tiny frs than my moms Accord. The seats also have way more lumbar and bolster support which helps me stay comfy in the car for a long time. It’s slow, but I’m not racing any one on the highway anyway

nice vid. it’s decided: still gonna get one.

I saw this edition of the 86 at an auto show and damn is that paint pretty

ITS SLOW we all know this for the past 8 years

I had a 2013 frs. Someone totaled it from a rear ending. I had the money ti get anything within 60k at the time, and i still ended up going back to a 86. The car is just fucking fantastic

best way to get rid of torque dip is headers and oft easy, and some sexy sound too!

I have a 2019 Toyota 86 as my daily. It's a very enjoyable daily, though I live in a Canadian city with practically zero traffic congestion to get stuck into. During the icy Canadian winter... it "accidentally" goes sideways with so much ease, and such amazing control while it's happening! Every other car I've had feels like they've had less turning control on ice going normally, than the 86 does sliding it's rear out! It's just an amazing car! But yeah... if you're not somewhere with curvy roads, dirt roads, or ice, then it won't be as easy to do (or acceptable to police) a lot of what makes the car so much fun. I'm pretty certain the torque dip is to help it be a better daily. It's in the casual driving RPM range you'd be in for general city driving, to which the torque dip adds fuel economy. On a race track, the 86 should never be in low enough RPM range to see it.

I'm a big fan of Mustangs but I have always found this car very appealing. It's looks really nice, comes well equipped, and forces you to become a better driver. There would be a lot of smiles per mile in this car!

6’3 and can confirm lambo doors would actually be more practical on this car 😂 but I have to say i love driving this car every single time it manages to put a smile on my face. You mentioned getting a ticket for flicking the back out but at leastttt I don’t get speeding fines 😂

Since I'm staying in LA, I review a RAV4: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2urVse_BN9w.html

I think this is def a nice car for a casual driver but who wants something fun for on the weekends. Not as a daily driver tho. I def plan on getting one

I daily a BRZ and absolutely love it. The only cons to me are blind spot visibility and stock tyres. Even on slightly damp road the rear can break traction while turning, but this taught me to be gentle and smooth on the accelerator, which I think is a good thing for learning to drive properly but may be bad for people who just want stability. Also I appreciate the fact that this car has gotten me to consistently heal-toe downshift on the road. I'd driven a few manual cars before and therefore could rev-match pretty well but never gotten into heel-toe. It's not that it's a necessary technique on the road, but I find heel-toe'ing makes it easier to race to an intersection and finish the turn before the lights turn red.

XD "Don't come to LA" XD I admit I was out looking for the first "needs more power" comment and did not find one. Good crowd!!!!

I daily my BRZ. I love the fact the I enjoy driving it without being too fast. I never got a fine ever since I got it.

I've owned an 86 in BsAs Argentina, same thing. The car has the most exquisit handling/ chassis, but streets over here are straight and boring. I went to some mountain passes in Cordoba ( 500 miles from BsAs) and LOVED the car over there. The problem was the sour aftertaste when I returned tu BsAs, feeling that the car didn't excite me as much as it did on the mountains. On the trip, I was accompanied by two Megane 3 RS and got the opportunity to drive them hard. I was blown away by the poise of the chassis and the power (86 struggled too much with the altitude). I recently purchased a Renualt Sport Megane and I am very happy with it. Very sad to let the 86 go, I still love the car, but untill i have the wallet to have it as a second car (plus a supercharger kit) I wont be able to have one. Once you've owned an 86, it isn't "goodbye", its more of a "see you later"

I didn't have much of these problems and unless you're a very large person, the back seats are adequate, but better suited to smaller individuals. It does need help with the torque however.

Ah Hakone the smell of sulfur in the air from hot springs, the green foggy forests, curvaceous mountain side roads. They really put thought into this car especially with the color. Definitely visit this place if you go to Japan

I got a 2013 frs as my daily and been loving it ever since. Sure theres no power til you hit 5k but theres something satisfying about revving the piss out of a car, go through 3 gears and only hit 80 mph. Not saying it cant use more power cuz well......I've got headers, exhaust and a tune on the next to buy list lol

Love seeing things from a non domestic car guy's view. Car looks like a good time. I love getting rowdy in my Camaro, but I have always wanted to try something smaller and see how well they handle back roads and turns.

So, I drive a 2014 challenger. 5.1 0-60, its quick, not fast like any new one is, but still, acceptably quick. I got to test drive a TRD 86. It was a little underwhelming when I floored it, but man could you rip around a turn. It put huge smiles on me everytime. I gotta say, I love American Muscle, but if I could afford to have that car, I would buy it in a heartbeat

I plan to get this car (sadly, no racing green color here in DE) next year and really appreciated your point of view. We do have some winding roads, so I should do fine. I am still considering the Audi S1 though :)

hell yeah!! Also daily a mk6 gti with stage 2 protune. More than enough for a fun daily. Planning to buy an na miata as a summer toy.

There's a lot of BRZ and 86 here in Brunei. The lack of ridiculous traffic here makes it really fun to own one!

What is that background music.. it reminds me of my childhood for some reason

I just ordered one of these, while thoroughly excited for it you have made me very aware of the need for a different car for my daily. thankfully i dont do city driving much but i can see how the cars playfulness can be an issue. Thank you for the review man!

I'm a NJROTC instructor at a high school in Dayton, OH, but I've lived in Cincinnati for a long time and just didn't want to relocate to Dayton. I know, that's crazy....

just got my gt86 2 weeks ago dailying as well, just perfect. For a sports two door coupe, I drive it hard sometime, not always. That’s the meaning of the JDM

enjoyed. thank you.

Great review, i almost got one after my 335i got rear ended and totaled. I drove one and then drove a 2015 WRX and there was no comparison, i had the WRX for 2 years and im now in a 2015 Cooper S. The first pull i did on the highway in the 86 told me what i needed to know, in Texas you have to be able to have passing power at ~75mph

What the background song is this?

Loved this video! And with the little back story 👌🏻 Just subbed. I never sub from watching just one video, but this is top quality content brother! You should be proud (and have a shit tonne more subs).

This car is a dream to drive in hilly Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Note to potential buyers the first thing I did to my car was swap out the tires I'm riding on a Michelin Pilot Sport a whole lot way better than the original tires Michelin primus. I highly recommend new tires as your first mod.

Short honest review, I liked it... wonder what would happen if you went through with it with mods 🤔 but you’re right, that traffic in a manual isn’t great. Keep up the good work 👍🏼

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who had a major problem with the doors. I couldn't tell if that was just a general problem with all coupes or if these cars are really just a pain in the ass to get into or out of.

Never meet your (teenage) heroes

Most of these points are pretty accurate. However, I think the Automatic actually addresses a lot of these issues - you can still get the tail out, but it doesn't constantly remind you of the lack of power the way it's advertised in most reviews as it downshifts before the torque dip in 95% of situations. You'll be hard pressed to do a burnout with the auto...and that's just the thing, it'll launch off of a green light as fast as you can ever want...WITHOUT TIRE SPIN. Coming from a manual GTI that would spin out the front tires and torque steer, my day-to-day commute is way smoother and quicker off the line, and better yet I can actually turn through an intersection with just a smidgen more enthusiasm and that's fun. I got jaded with fast-launch stop light driving - it is a cop magnet, it draws a lot of bad attention, and it's super dangerous with anything that's not AWD. My GTI was a gen 4 though so it's not the same type of comparison...but FWD is FWD. I'm in Bay Area though and I don't think I'd want this car in Texas or anywhere without some low speed twists and turns. LA probably same, no good there.

This is the first review that I've seen that hits points on why not to drive for logical reasons. My biggest worry is snow, but I've seen many videos on them doing well in snow, and what makes them such great cars. I'll get one within the next decade, but for now, I am happily personalizing my 2000 Camry. I am hoping that the 2nd gens will lower the value of the 1st gens to where I can purchase one. Shout-out to all the people who daily them!

Driving a VW Fox 1.4L, Living in germany in the hilly "Schwarzwald". Am a student here and I am saving my ass off to get this someday... I'll see what the future brings, first not-racing oriented review i saw so far. Thanks!

I still want one , I can’t think of another car I’d rather have for the slightly above 10 grand range.

I live in the mountains of NC and love mine. Plenty of curvy back roads to have fun on here. But if you live in an area that doesn't have fun back roads you should avoid the 86.

Very informative review 🥰

I used my 86 on daily basis. The doors are wider makes it difficult to enter at tight parking spot, but it is so much fun to drive than any other cars, the auto gear box that I have is so willing to revv and my car beats 90% of the cars on the road. I suspect my car might have tuned up without knowing.

Rear seats def work, friends usually fit back there telling the people in front that they can scoot back if they want. And power isnt really a big deal, if you want power this isnt the car for you, that being said, it's still pushes your head back into the seat if you know how to drive it, I do it all the time. It's a fun car overall and definitely recommend it. Especially in a 6 speed M/T

Since I don’t pay any bills when I’m 16-17 imma get a job and save up like 70% of my money to buy a automatic gt 86 by the time I’m around 18 1/2 or sooner

Awwww.. I do love my 86 everyday. Even in peak hour traffic I still think it’s a better drive than a torquey automatic. I’d go so far as saying I would have quit my job for somewhere closer to home if it wasn’t for it lol

I had a Prius and a heavily modded track Miata NC. After driving the Prius a REALLY appreciated the Miata (crazy fun car back road) and after a day in the Miata appreciated the Prius in traffic and parking at the grocery store. Spent $35k on both cars and cheap insurance/gas/maintenance. If I had to choose only one car: it would be a Golf R or GTI.

This was my dream car for very long too I love the looks of it and I still do. I Was able to buy it they only cost too much for what it is 17 to 23k for an 2015 model and they have quality problems. I bought a similar car tho. an s13 with 400hp instead I don't regret it.

That attempt at getting in the back seats was embarrassing, the back seats are definitely useable, I've had 6ft people in the back of mine on a number of occasions maybe a different story trying to get someone in behind the driver but definitely a useable 3 seats

The torque is easily fixed with a header and a tune. This car is a platform for mods, If you buy one of these and plan to daily it stock it probably wont be that thrilling. But with a couple of bolt on parts and a ECU tune and you have a car that feels as it should of straight out of the dealership. My BRZ is running FT86 catted header and full Agency exhaust the car is a a blast to daily! It sounds awesome with that traditional subbie rumble and now has a smooth power delivery thanks to the Stage 2 tune with OFT. This car with the 6 speed manual transmission is guaranteed to make you a better driver. These cars respond well to skilled drivers!

These sound all reasons for which I should buy this car. I live in the mountains, I don't have parking lots problems and I love this color combo.

Love my automatic with paddles so much fun each day I drive it

Personally love dailying my 86

I agree. I thought it would be fun to daily drive one, but that would mean driving it in the snow a few days per year in the Seattle area and driving it when the ground is wet, and it isn't safe for that. It is uncomfortable to get in and out of regularly. I traded mine in for a CX-5 after 9 months (and literally being unable to keep the car on the road in a snow storm) and bought an old Miata for part time use. If I were 20-26, it would be fine. Now I just buy used Japanese cars.

Uhm the complaints may be a problem where you live but I find it a joy to drive daily in Houston and great to get around town and still get compliments from ppl and Porsches drivers every day. Beautiful and raw live experience.

I have an FRS and I would also hate to drive it in Los Angeles. I live around Highland around the IE so it’s not that bad

“Highway” that’s where you’ve gone wrong brother

Fun video! love it!

I was trying to get a BRZ or this 86 but I finalized on a Honda Civic 2018 HatchBack Ex-T with Silver Body Color on Full Black Rims which I love

The rear seats are my favorite thing about this car!

A miata is not better than the 86. I daily drive my 86 and i live in fort Lauderdale. It s not bad if you get automatic. And its just as much fun as the stick shift.

Please tell me the name of the music that plays at the beginning

Damn that paint looks good. I live no where near mountains and DD an FR-S..... In the winter too

You should get an s14. Same kind of car but more punch

Great video!

Why’s this channel so underrated? I love this...

Im glad I seen this video. Im going to test drive one today but Im not sold on it yet. I do want a sporty car that will be fun on the weekends. I found from having small hatch only allows a-holes with bigger vehicles to have more parking space.

3:23 is that g eazy

the best daily is a prius. the best track car is a modded gt86

Love this review

I daily my 2015 frs in Canada. Snow is fine as long as you have winter tires. Just way easier to get a stunting ticket when the rear slips out 😂

Hot Wheels Highway 35 🔥

Why choose the Mazda over this?

All things aside, that color combo is absolutely fantastic!

This video only applies to people living in LA or moving to LA. Which was very useful for me. Besides New York, LA, and Bay Area not many other places have shitty rush hour traffic giving you a left foot exercise routine 5pm-7

lol i daily an frs. its an automatic tho, but even with the automatic i find fun with it.

There's no way that the Golf GTI Mk6 is more fun to drive than the Mazda MX-5 ND2 with its revised 181hp engine. You don't need to go sideways all the time in the MX-5 ND2 to have fun within legal speeds - just look at WindingRoadMagazine's POV videos or TheTopher's POV videos on that car. The only reason why you'd get the GTI is if you really need to haul more people and have more storage space for shopping. Get a model with a LSD, and add a Flyin Miata exhaust system and BBR Super 220 power upgrade to the ND2 and you'll have one of the most fun to drive brand new sportscars in 2019 with very cheap consumable costs (e.g. tyres, brakes and fuel) unlike Mustangs and camaros

Currently have a blown motor on my 2013 frs thanx to Toyota techs and the recall they performed in the valve springs. The silicone sealant clogs or bonds and melts onto the oil crack case I believe it's called, causing my engine to starve of oil leading to spin bearings and rod knock. Trying to trade it in as and finance a new 86 or brz due to the fact this is my 1st car and it was close to a complete track build and the fact of it being unfinished irks my OCD

What is the name of the song in the background?

You’re getting old Ben.

Goofy boy, only good daily in fookn LA would be a Tesla with autopilot😂😂

I am going to look at a 2018 Toyota 86 gts in good condition soon with not much kilometres on it. It is black, will be my Daily driver and I drive on highways often. Will probably end up buying it

when i drove a 2013 FRS/86 the clutch engagement/catch point felt really vague - it wasn't clearly defined at all and it made the driving experience odd. is that still the case in the 2020 version? or has the clutch engagement point been corrected?

Beautiful car, but I guess this is a testament to the danger of meeting your heroes :/

my neighbor back in 2012 was the sales manager at a scion dealership and when i walked in and wanted to get a tC (2nd gen) he tried to talk me into the 86. i didnt know the car was almost 7 grand more...i just told him it didnt do it for me.( this was after he gaves me the keys for the test drive and let me have a go at it) it was such a lackluster experience i didn't even think twice about it. and mind you this was back when i was a 20 year old who was very easily convinced that something was "sporty"...i mean come on, i bought a tc2. years later i would drive friends 86's and still to this day i dont get the appeal. maybe when theyre like 8 or 9 grand i can see the value but holy hell they have a really bad reputation now with all the recalls related to bearing issues. i honestly feel really bad for someone when i see a temp plate on a new brz going down the road, i can't imagine spending what is basically 5th gen zl1 money on a fucking sub 200hp rwd subaru.

I had my 2015 FRS for 2.5 years DD drove it 80 miles a day LA to OC granted mines was a 6 Speed AT and only added a K&N filter the ride is punishing on rough roads but it was rewarding to drive on curves. I eventually sold it.

I love the 86 as a daily, I loved taking it to mountain for cornering as well, but she lacked power for straights so I slapped a turbo and E85 into the mix :) (I will say tho I missed going through corners knowing I wasn’t gonna throw out the rear at full throttle so I bought a AW11 MR2 and hasn’t killed me yet :D)