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My thoughts on Doctor Who: Space Babies and The Devil's Chord. 

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Комментарии : 52   
@YTguySmithy-lk6go
@YTguySmithy-lk6go 2 месяца назад
The overall concensus is... It rhymes with hit but add a S.
@gurninator
@gurninator 2 месяца назад
Hits?
@shoutingstone
@shoutingstone 2 месяца назад
I've seen every episode of Dr Who since the Tom Baker era and while the quality has had it peaks and troughs with some very questionable episodes, Space Babies is the first one ive ever turned off without finishing
@grahamchalk4727
@grahamchalk4727 2 месяца назад
As someone who watched HartnelI when it was live show. As someone who thought Bill Potts (Pearl Mackie) was one of the best actors ever in the show. As someone who REALLY wanted a woman Doctor to work. As someone who switched off space babies after 20 minutes I have to say : I don't see any way back, or forward, from this unadulterated mess. Goodnight Doctor. You were fantastic.
@Vermilion73
@Vermilion73 2 месяца назад
Fan of over 50 years, walked away after Arachnids In the UK, came back for RTD2. Going away again. Never coming back.
@williamwatson4354
@williamwatson4354 2 месяца назад
Two episodes of the Doctor running in panic; not a great precedent. But my biggest issue was the camp factor. Farting aliens was one thing, but it was balanced by good drama. It appears the show has gone camp and that's a bad thing. There's a reason Horns of Nimon is looked back as a low point.
@tomsalinsky1
@tomsalinsky1 2 месяца назад
Ah yes. Gone are the days of Christopher Eccleston, whose first defining words as the Doctor were.... "Run!".
@teamicecream9015
@teamicecream9015 2 месяца назад
Really appreciate your mature and well-thought-out review. Good job
@ste_zace
@ste_zace 2 месяца назад
Also the scene where the doctor laughs at ruby after she got snotted all over just seemed mean , i cant recall the doctor laughing at the misfortune of his friend before
@liamversionone6491
@liamversionone6491 2 месяца назад
Ten laughing at Rose being a dog in Pete’s World
@kats_katspaws
@kats_katspaws 2 месяца назад
Good review 👏🏻 pretty much on the mark explaining the unexplainable
@ste_zace
@ste_zace 2 месяца назад
I was thinking that ep2 was too close the giggle both in concept and time between them
@daemoneveleigh7563
@daemoneveleigh7563 2 месяца назад
I think the end is coming...Can't see this show lasting..Its already been commissioned for 2 series but I can't see a 3rd coming...I think it needs to be put away for a while and hopefully a couple of years time it can have a totally reboot like it did in 2005 🙏
@robertrowles5450
@robertrowles5450 2 месяца назад
Dispensing with the timeless child bs hopefully. At the time RTD seemed to get how offensive it was, but now he's parroting it. Depressing. I wonder if RTD is going to go down in history as the man who both 'saved' and 'killed' DW.
@petecollins4925
@petecollins4925 2 месяца назад
I've just cancelled my TV licence after the last few episodes of this utter tripe. BBC along with the rest of MSM purveying the approved messages for a non-existent modern audience can kindly disappear to where the sun don't shine. Just my opinion of course, you do you, everyone's different.
@dazjackson1972
@dazjackson1972 2 месяца назад
Cancelled mine 3yrs ago in similar circumstances. Not giving the Beeb another penny - even BBC Blu-rays & DVDs are obtained on the "used" market.
@timpea9766
@timpea9766 2 месяца назад
Well said good analysis, and perhaps a little too kind.
@peterjermey7235
@peterjermey7235 2 месяца назад
I just want to point out that people complained endlessly about the farming aliens in 2005
@rozzgrey801
@rozzgrey801 2 месяца назад
Dr Who was an action adventure sci-fi show, but now it is a comic pantomime with awful jokes, shallow stories, no emotional depth or real sense of danger or any struggle to sort the problem out. Now the show is a shambolic virtue-signalling cringe-inducing lame joke. Dr Who will be cancelled before the end of this year. No-one wants Dr Disney and his woke agenda.
@stuunitt2947
@stuunitt2947 2 месяца назад
Could have shaved at least six minutes off the length of this video by just saying, "both of these episodes were absolutely crap! " 😂😂😂😂
@tomsalinsky1
@tomsalinsky1 2 месяца назад
But that wasn't my opinion.
@Knaveofspades6
@Knaveofspades6 2 месяца назад
The Doctor is no longer the hero. He's not saved the day once yet. It is now Moctor Who. Zero plot, no character driven dialogue, zero chemistry between them.
@tomsalinsky1
@tomsalinsky1 2 месяца назад
Saves the creature at the end of Space Babies and figures out how to get the babies to safety. Saved the day. Finds the chord to banish Maestro. Saved the day. Got the Anglicans to surrender. Saved the day. Did not save the day in the episode he wasn't in, sure. Maybe you need to rewatch the episodes?
@Knaveofspades6
@Knaveofspades6 2 месяца назад
The creature in space babies was the Villian 99% of the episode- why do you think there were no 6 year olds on board ? They got eaten as would have the one that got rescued. So that plot U-turn without explanation highlights terrible editing - I had to rewind it twice confused as to why the sudden U- Turn. Saving a child eating monster doesn't make him the hero. NANNY is the one who pulls her finger out and saves everyone. The Doctor doesn't find the magic chord, the BEATLES do. He gets sucked into a drum. Maybe you need to rewatch them too.
@tomsalinsky1
@tomsalinsky1 2 месяца назад
@@Knaveofspades6 The creature in Space Babies was an innocent victim. That's why the Doctor risked his life to save it. That's the point of the episode. Watch it again. The Doctor finds the chord and it is completed by John and Paul who also have their part to play in the story. They could not have completed it if the Doctor hadn't found it. Watch it again. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the episodes as much as I did, and that you found them confusing, but critising them for things which didn't happen doesn't help anyone.
@joebees21
@joebees21 2 месяца назад
I really really wanted to like these. If you compare this introduction to Rose from 2005 it falls short in every way. These new episodes are littered with overracting, poor jokes, political agendas, weird story choices. It really makes you go back and appreciate Eccleston's performance - he really feels dark, mysterious and alien whilst also balancing a bit of fun. I haven't gone off Ncuti's Doctor yet - but he seems a bit silly which isn't helped by the story but it is hard to take it seriously when they just treat it as a joke.
@tomsalinsky1
@tomsalinsky1 2 месяца назад
Remember how much fans despaired at the burping bin...?
@joebees21
@joebees21 2 месяца назад
@@tomsalinsky1 I do but there was enough there to offset the silly things like that. These two episodes feel like one really long joke. There was nothing to sink your teeth into. For every burping bin there was the 9th Doctor talking about how he can feel the Earth spinning and falling through space. Incredible acting from Eccleston in my opinion.
@teamicecream9015
@teamicecream9015 2 месяца назад
@@joebees21 And for every bogey monster, there was a speech about why the doctor keeps on travelling despite having no home. To be fair.
@joebees21
@joebees21 2 месяца назад
@@teamicecream9015 It didn't have the same impact for me as the 9th Doctor. I really wanted it to though and if it did for you then that's great! I really hope you enjoyed it and that I'm the minority.
@teamicecream9015
@teamicecream9015 2 месяца назад
@@joebees21 Fair enough. I'd definitely stick around for the rest of the series though. RTD has made it clear enough that the first two episodes were meant to bring in new fans especially with fun stories, while episode 3 and after become darker and are meant to hook you!
@toshiyaar7885
@toshiyaar7885 2 месяца назад
The acting was terrible 😌 i just could not get past it. In both episodes. I really tried.
@tomsalinsky1
@tomsalinsky1 2 месяца назад
Really? It didn't seem at all out of the ordinary to me and I thought both Millie and Ncuti were exceptional.
@ian-flanagan
@ian-flanagan 2 месяца назад
@@tomsalinsky1 Yes, it's a standard style for Doctor Who, so probably not a criticism at this point, but it's what I call "BBC acting", or "Hollyoaks acting". There was one moment that really highlighted it for me: "English exists?", "Humans don't speak one language by this point, a bit like Cantonese" I can't think of any angle to make this sentence make sense. Humans have never spoken one language... and how is speaking (or not speaking?) one language "a bit like Cantonese?". So when Ruby responds with a "ok, makes sense" face, all I can think it that the actors are just pretending to understand the script. If so, that puts a really, really low ceiling on the potential performance. Again, it's nothing new, and fans have already made their choice, so it's not a big deal.. just confirms why I don't watch DW. Equally, no one watched DW for solid time-travel mechanics, but it bothers me that Maestro was released in the Giggle, but the effects on the timeline were somehow delayed until Episode 2.
@tomsalinsky1
@tomsalinsky1 2 месяца назад
​@@ian-flanagan The line is: "Humans ALL speak one language by this point." The Doctor then removes the perception filter, showing Chinese-style characters, demonstrating that the one language all humans speak resembles Cantonese. But I don't really understand what the dialogue written for the actors has to do with the style of their delivery.
@ian-flanagan
@ian-flanagan 2 месяца назад
@@tomsalinsky1 Oh, I misheard it then. If the line was "Humans *don't* speak one language, like Cantonese", that's nonsensical, so the actors would be bluffing it... but as you pointed out, I misheard it. "Ahh" is still a confusingly blasé response to that information, and I'm especially confused/intrigued how humans have ended up adopting traditional characters, not simplified. It makes sense that a random Brit wouldn't pick up on that, but it still annoys me that we're missing what seems like a far more intersting story, for space babies. And I still don't like Ruby's acting. There feel like a lot of forcefully inserted pauses and quirks to be interesting, rather than natural. Again, these are all just my personal preferences and DW fans/detractors will have been filtered in/out by these long ago, so not really valid criticisms. Was the Maestro thing a real flaw, or did I miss something else?
@toshiyaar7885
@toshiyaar7885 2 месяца назад
@tomsalinsky1 Yes. Really. There's no comparison to Tennant, Smith, Capaldi. Ncuti just doesn't have the maturity to deliver extraordinary monologues they way Tennant, Smith, Capaldi... even ekelston did. For a queer and diverse cast, I would have tasked Alexandra Billings, T'nia Miller, phenominal actor/actresses, in any of those roles. I'd love to see Eddie Izzard in there, too! Now those 3 can deliver. Ncuti & Jinx fell into the trap of making gay and being trans their whole persona, when there is more to the characters than the surface. It was over the top, shallow. Unrelatable. They just didn't draw you in. I wanted to care, but felt nothing.
@DBuckyBoy
@DBuckyBoy 2 месяца назад
Wrote ....... Script ........ Must ....... Read ........... Not .......... Deviate.........
@tomsalinsky1
@tomsalinsky1 2 месяца назад
You okay?
@jamesmackenzie4107
@jamesmackenzie4107 2 месяца назад
It was totally crap
@tomsalinsky1
@tomsalinsky1 2 месяца назад
Fine analysis, there, sir.
@allenrhys844
@allenrhys844 2 месяца назад
You are waaay too kind. This was new level garbage.
@tomsalinsky1
@tomsalinsky1 2 месяца назад
I am not “too kind” any more than you are “too harsh”. We had different reactions. Sorry you didn’t enjoy the episodes.
@wignallyt
@wignallyt 2 месяца назад
Worst 2 episodes ever. Doctor Who is dead. Enjoy the old episodes.
@PolytronikDigital
@PolytronikDigital 2 месяца назад
it sucks. period. mainly because of the doctor. he sucks worse than than last one.
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