my thoughts on school 

Wait they don't? In my school specifically we sorta just slapped recess and lunch into the same thing. But they just don't have recess at all?

Same here, I was shocked to hear that. What psychopath thought of taking out breaks for seniors??

And that even if they do have recess it's only one. I don't know what it's like in the rest of Australia but we get 2 breaks in a 7 hour day

@@brodstarpadpen6949 oo thats cool i just got one really big one

We have study halls but you're not exactly allowed to run around during those tho

I would argue actually that a part of life is having to do things you don’t want to. I think teachers are being too soft on students. In this case specifically, I think the teacher was in the right. But normally, I think it’s better for students to learn that you’re not always gonna get what you want

@@Koag84 Plus it's illigal to force students to attend animal dissection against their will. There's literally an Act against it in US. But I bet the teachers never mention it. Remember the teacher who stole half of the students earnings? As a parent I would skin that teacher alive if that would happen to my kid (granted that they only used euipment like paper cutter and such)

@@Koag84 No they shouldn't. Everybody knows that good teachers make good students. If the teacher is a b**ch no one would give a s**t about that teacher and will hate that subject. If the teacher is a good teacher everyone (even the bad students) will try to learn and be interested at the subject. So no, teachers shouldn't be more rigid. Teachers should be more "soft" becausd that's how a f***ing teacher should be!

@@Koag84 Also, if you're learning that you're not always gotta get what you want that is negativity. And if you think that you will believe that. Also if you do things you don't want to that's not a life you should look up to. All you said is false outside of the disection part which why tf is it even a tbing? (YURIV_ARCADE responded very well to your comment)

@@Koag84 There are obviously two extremes of the spectrum but life is not ALWAYS about having to do certain things. That is a fundamental flaw in this society that doesnt promote creativity, engagement, and curiosity to flourish. By stamping authority without reason is never a good way to follow and most teacher expect you to listen without question is why half the adult population have the IQ of dirt and why global destruction exists. Teaching this to a kid is meaningless because they have not fully matured into thinking for themselves and say these things are required just because is not a good way to develop a child’s brain

Yep. That's rather accurate, honestly. I hear about it a lot, but never see it actually happen. That kind of stuff tends not to in a smaller town where everyone knows everyone though, so, meh.

this is what my little sister does when she stabs me in the gut?

@@probablya_see a doctor

That's my brother my entire life. Until eventually as a teenager he punched me in the spine randomly in front of my mom and she got mad at me for being angry. We barely talked for like 5 years after that

THIS HAPPENED TO ME TODAY. an ex friend of mine punched me in the face a lot today at school and they didn't even get A school because apparently I antagonized them lmfao

thats such a cool way to learn

Reminds me of thwt one school called Agora, very cool

I love Montessori. My daughters current school does something similar but it's a public school so still pretty structured. The biggest difference that I've noticed is that they take TONS OF BREAKS. She says they get 3 rececsses to let off steam and they spend a lot of time outside doing hands-on learning. Oh and they don't give homework on Friday, and mostly reading work during the week. My daughter has ADHD and her medication usually wears off by the time she gets home so I don't force her to do more work if she really can't. She works so hard during the day. And they don't pressure us about homework either! They see her effort and applaud her for it. She's never enjoyed school until she started here.

Glad to see you had a good experience with Montessori schools, unfortunately the one I went to when I was quite young kinda turned me off them forever. The teachers wouldn't let me hug my parents at the gate, they locked me in a dark room because they thought I was making trouble when it wasn't even me, they yelled at me for not being able to do stuff as fast as the other kids, and they forced me to socialize with other people when I just wanted to do my own thing at the breaks. Wish it hadn't been that way because public schools had their own set of major issues that really didn't help either, but I'm glad I didn't just put up with those people in Montessori and actually did something about it, even tho I was pretty young.

@@Mokaluvable I’m happy to hear that! I’ve heard that lots of ADHD students do better with Montessori style learning because of the hands-on nature of it, it’s more stimulating and less “listen to a teacher talk all day”. :) happy to hear that holds true

Absolutely

Absolutely

Homeschoolers

Yep

100%

If you really want to help them, tell them that this is the shittiest part of their life that they just have to endure. I almost killed myself when i finished high school and was about to enter the worforce. Because i thought job will be like longer school. Or worse. Adults like to mock kids with that shit. Its a malicious lie.

That’s really nice! I hope you enjoy your job. Teachers who try to make school interesting are the best. I think school would be a lot better if we had more positive things to look forward to.

yeah

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Heisenberg approved.

Lol

nice

Very nice

Super nice

Nice

Nice

Not to mention a completely unchanging curriculum for many places. Like, I get that there's a specific kind of information and so on thats decided to be the best info needed to prepare people for life, but there's be so much change in the world over the years that its hard to believe places are still using the same damn class and plans they did probably 30 years ago. No joke. Im from Australia and found out someone 15+ years younger than myself was doing the same damn school project I did in that year. Not similar or anything like that. LITERALLY the same. We looked at the printed out A4 page and apart from a few small things here and there (like a slightly changed school logo, etc) it was identical.

If learning is struggle then it isnt being done right. People should be excited to learn new things. Like why tf dk i gotta learna about tectonic plates, tf am i gonna do with that information.

Basically an example of life

Yeah, if we didn't train our teachers to believe that if they were teaching small children they had failed in life and it was a dead end, they probably wouldn't feel the need to pass that despair on.

You know, I wonder what they dissect in a cars universe

yeah its not like im making a living off of art lol

I wish my school had Home Economics. Teach the students how to do budgets, repair, cook, do taxes, _actually function as an adult._ That one class would have been not only practical, but could have tied in things from what other classes were teaching. I think the school board thought our parents would completely prep us for adulthood and that nobody would need to know how to change a tire or write a resume. Lol.

"But Jevin, yew haf to be well-rounded, and capubol of doing things yew've said yew won't do. Dooing things yew hate will make you a better person, becawse yew will obviyuslee LUV doing it after we teech yew HOW to do it. And if yew still hayte it after oll uv that, then yew are a stoopid person.

@@luvondarox you dont learn that but you learn how to read and understand things so you could learn something you need by yourself

Skodin stoodis

I don't think wierd is the right word. Insidious, maybe. It's not about education so much as it is about killing creativity and crushing the ability to think for oneself to make sure you come out as a good little mindless worker drone who will NEVER so much as question those above them. Sadly, it works on the majority.

Oh, they know. They just don't care. There are genuinely good teachers out there, but a not insignificant number of them went into the profession for the easy power trip. Get to make the lives of over a hundred students miserable each year and to no risk for your own life.

ha yes... there are the cool ones that only burden you with the most necessary stuff like research for a presentation or very rarely to read about something and then there are those who think THEIR class is the most important one existing in a vacuum. I currently study for a higher degree in horticulture (bachelor professional) and we have this business English and German class with the same teacher and she forced us to write a 10 pages scientific paper about any park including maps, images and all those juicy sources. Which took us a good 15h to do. I see why this is important sort of but seriously we got so much more important stuff to do. Then she constantly lets us study vocabulary for a weekly test and gives ludicrous amounts of English homework. Yeah English is nice and all and I really love the language but ffs I'd rather spend my time on studying fruit tree care and cultivation, ornamental plant production in a greenhouse, vegetable growing, cemetery services and tree nursery - you know: the stuff we actually need to learn for the degree. I never would have believed anyone saying English will one day become my least favourite class 😂

Most teachers genuinely believe the work they assign has some merit, if only because everything they assign is more work for them too. Anything a teacher assigns, they also have to grade, and they also have 4 other classes to grade.

Yeah being in college now each class gives out roughly the same amount of homework as a high school class but it's less work overall because there are fewer classes

It will never let up and I'm gonna be honest here, it prepares you for time management. You're more than likely going to be in a position where you have a lot and it's not going to let up.

We had a class that did some of those you listed and the biggest issue with that was "how are we meant to exam this". We had a subject called citizenship as well which taught us about the census and tax etc but we still needed to do an exam on it and get a mark. So if you do things that aren't examined, so out of the syllabus, I think it ends up being out of class hours. Which I doubt the school wants to fund nor most teachers would want to do cause extra work :\

@@bunn228 Couldn't it just be a pass/fail setup? Say there's 20 "skills" in the class, but you didn't meet the standard for 2 of them. 18/20 = 90% in the class.

Ya, my school had that, but it was optional, and I couldn't even sew a quilt LMAO. One day...

Home Eck? Was a thing, then gone.

We had a cooking class, and I remember not...Remembering a whole lot about it sadly, most recipes were failed by the students as they were quite out there and we were all a bit dopey. The teacher was also awful to most of us and my classmates were probably not the easiest either. And yet I still always wished we had more of those. Whenever I'd argue with someone about it they'd tell me "nobody would care", to which I countered that I and my class did. We all somewhat enjoyed the idea, but disliked the teacher.

Exactly, part of going to school is finding your own strengths and interests.

Underrated comment here. People need to understand that school for the most part is mass exposure to learn not only what you're good at, what you would like to be good at, and what you just genuinely find interesting. The phrase "this has no practical use" is entirely because you didn't pursue it as your study. Which is fine, but at least people need to understand this.

you can figure that out without having to not dissect a frog lol

I must argue against you here. It definitely wasn't this one specific incident that taught him that. There would have been plenty of other similar moments as well as a general lack of interest, so the argument that the dissection "changed his life" is really blatantly arbitrary and has no substance.

@@brainonair7401 yes but often they don't provide classes to pursue any interest. Often electives only last one semester and might not have a second class. I feel like learning poems isn't the most productive thing for students to learn over something like trades classes. There should be more choice in class selection over having actual core classes

I personally hate this. Never slept during kindergarten, never wanted to. I guess making anything mandatory just ruins the thing

i mean right older kids deserve nap time, what are kindergarteners getting tired from? couloring??? 💀

​@@dimanyak373 well kindergarteners also have waaaay more energy than highschoolers lol. Also if you don't want to sleep you can do other shit. Like, do you see kindergarteners sleeping in class? No! Only high-schoolers lol

that didn't make sense, just contradicted himself. lol

Or even just have a break room for everyone with beds but have everyone be left to their own devices if they do choose

Just put some random words and you’re done! I did it.

Amen!

Heck yeah! Now that's a way to think! If you haven't been through it already, I'll warn you now - teaching is a very rough path, and not because of the students. You need a strong will to make it through your seniors' hazing.

I think one if the best things to happen in school recently has been incorporating asynchronous online learning. I would not have graduated college if we were not forced online and I know a ton of folks who ended up sticking to it and thriving. I think that should be an option for kids more because of the need for frequent short breaks. Of course it wasn't for everyone and lots of people needed to go back to in person, but it completely changed my life in a good way.

Former teacher here! Flexibility for learners is actually just one of many problems public education in our country is facing, and probably not the most pressing tbh. Unless you're in a very privileged/functional district, the massive inequality in school funding (bc it's largely based on local property taxes), the equally massive inequality among students/families outside of school, the ongoing exodus of teaching staff from the profession nationwide, the overzealous focus on testing and "data" in schools, and an increasingly hands-off form of parenting at home (which occurs for lots of reasons, some more legitimate than others) will be much bigger and more immediate hurdles. Which isn't to say that not being able to meet kids where they're at or engaging their general interests isn't important, but that was something I could address in a meaningful way teaching in east Cleveland. All the other stuff... Not so much.

@@joshuatatro4503 I appreciate the important notes on other issues, but I must disagree on the importance of learner flexibility. It goes *far* beyond simply giving extra attention to students who are struggling and attempting to engage their interests, and much more to do with allowing them to personalize things so the rest of their life doesn't get in the way. Things like a reduced homework plan for students who lack the time due to work and such, extra time on tests or broken up tests to allow for short breaks, and alternatives to online assignments for those whose families cannot afford computers are all wonderful things that help students feel engaged far more than a somewhat interesting topic. Unfortunately, I was rather harshly punished for suggesting little things like this to my teachers. I think what we need most of all is for students to have a say in what goes on in their education. Without that, it's all guess work and it will always lag behind and leave some out.

Man I'm getting into college now and I now learn of such a place, that would've made life so much better

I think we've got a "laboratory school" with that concept here in Germany :)

I think schools like that are somewhat common in Finland or Sweden

I think it's called a Montessori school

Agora? Sounds like Agora lol

What do you say? I’d like to have a little bag of tips for whenever I’ll be teaching.

Lol can you do a brief summary on your lesson for us poor unfortunate souls who can’t study for the life of them

Sure! The two biggest things I teach are output and spacing. 1) Many people try to memorize by practicing input - reading the same thing over and over, expect it to sink in. The problem is that the brain uses different circuitry for input and output. The part of your brain related to RECALL is what you want to be practicing. So, what I do is read through a small section once, then make it so I can't see the material, and try to recall as much as I can. Then I check how I did. Then wait like 2-5 minutes, and try another recall without looking, then check again after. This is reinforcing the recall part of the brain. 2) Spacing, as mentioned above in the 2-5 minute delay, is important. You can do a few repetitions of the same material back to back if you like, but don't cover the same stuff over and over for too long, you get diminishing returns. You need a little time for the brain to let the information sink in, and also to dump it out of the short term memory. Essentially, you want to blind-quiz yourself on the material, spaced out through the day. Don't worry about getting it perfect, just recall what you can, then check how you did and review. If you like, you can stagger things, so you cover part A, then part B, then part C, then come back to A for the second round - this lets you study in a longer session, while also taking advantage of spacing. The above two things have had a 100% success rate for my students. I even had a class full of ESL students practice a line of Shakespeare like this, and they nailed it after 3-4 repetitions. Students are often amazed at the difference.

I appreciate this, greatly; and it makes so much sense, it seems obvious now that you’ve said it. I used to wonder why I can’t seem easily learn languages, but can easily remember and sing along to French and Japanese songs I’ve heard long ago. Now it seems obvious that it’s because I discovered this neat foreign music and listen to the music every few hours, singing what I heard… for days 😂 thanks again, this is a huge tip!

@@johannhowitzer thanks man. I’ll keep a screenshot of the message so I don’t forget.

For real though. With as much misinformation as there is on the internet, people should be taught how to distinguish a legitimate article from some random fluff piece. Teaching kids to do their own research and not relying on the first page of Google or Wiki for answers

This should be a curriculum that's available for people of all ages. I have friends and family in their 70s who could really use that info. I try to help (I'm in my 60s) but there's only so much I can do. Would love to be able to refer them to an actual course of study that would help them protect themselves from scams and misinformation.

Unfortunately too many politicians actively use the lack of media literacy to their advantage for it to realistically get added to a curriculum.

I thought we already *had* media-literacy-and-critical-thinking classes. Did _no one else_ have a literature teacher? I mean, the only problem is that people think those classes are useless, but they're *supposed* to teach students how to read subtext! Ice Cream Sandwich's idea has been around for a while already!

ok

Why would they even have preserved flowers? Just buy fresh ones from the florist. By far the most pleasant dissection I ever did

Was it rafflesia flower?

Scrolling through the comments for one of the top 3 to slap me in the face with "In 1st grade I threw up and passed out immediately" has to be the funniest thing I've seen in a while

yeah, commercials were like that back then in the 90s and 2000s, even. now they seem just so desperate to get our business or some bs like that...

the ad was my favorite part even though i don't remember what it was for.

I haven’t watched one of these in a while and I raised my thumb to skip and then I realized what a mistake that would be

he got me with the lead in (as he normaly does) i was like "your right i dont know how to protect myself from that!" then proceeded to watch the ad break to humor/reward the joke.

Grading is mainly for you to know how you’re doing in the classroom, but I do agree it’s gotten too competitive lately

no it makes good sense

The grading system can also makes kids feel like they are a failure and stupid compared to others if their grades are lower, which could then lead to depression and low self esteem. Speaking from experience here...

​@@cactoos9793 can agree. My grades were shit in primary school, due to that i just felt like I always will fail, that what I do is never good enough. Most of my grades now are 1 or 2 now though, but I still feel the same about it.

The worst part is that instead of anybody doing anything about the low self esteem issues grades can cause, they ignore the problem and instead focus on what social media can do to people instead. At least that’s what I think. If the school system were a little less competitive but had the right amount of stress, I feel like it could be really productive.

I think that media element is what's causing that though. Media can be instant and triggers dopamine. It's usually short bursts as well. Through this instant gratification you're making it harder to then later take things more slowly.

my school couldnt teach finance without bordering on endorsing crypto

yuh. and its been scientifically proven too. and a LOT of people for some reason think theyre immune to it????? maybe you are but i highly doubt it. like 0.00000001% chance. you dont notice the effects it has on your brain until its far far too late. and thats kinda the point. there are thousands of extremely intellegent and educated (lets face it people) evil psychos out there that make INSANE amounts of money that work really hard to manipulate you and keep you hooked on youtube, reddit, twitter, ect. i have slowly learned to be aware of myself and when im being manipulated or if im spending too much time in front of a screen. and my cure is to literally go outside and touch grass. i leave my comfy dark little video yagame hole and go for an intense run at least 3 times a week in addition to my normal job. for people thay dont have jobs or work from home yall beed to get out at least a few hours every single day to fight off depression and obesity. of course i consume media through my heaphones while im running sooooo..... lol

i had such high hopes for crypto.... but of course the grifters and crooks would crawl out from the woodwork to ruin it. crypto was looking to be an actual alternative to all the scummy banks and rich people desperately wanting to control, steal, and fondle our money but of course theyre also really smart and if they didnt profit from crypto scams (which they of course did) they also successfully used the public's distaste for those scams to deligitimize crypto. talk about killing two birds with one stone. too bad all the smart people go into finance and not civics...

My school doesn't even teach finances

Had a preserved human heart to inspect in my class for a day, I think also a liver and some lung, dunno how but I used to be fascinated at how strong the muscles that formed the heart were, like we were told to dissect but like the knife wouldn't budge.

Why would the people think its a joke???

Where does one get a pigs heart, asking for a friend😂

@@Imbatmn57 Butchers.

​@@kennethsatria6607 I hope it wasn't attached

I had a dream where I was a single frog in a tank, in a science classroom. The kids were all about to dissect the frogs lying on those metal plates, all the frogs suddenly sprung to life and hopped out the classroom, the kids did nothing. After the last of the frogs escaped, all the children slowly turned to me, the only frog left to dissect. I soon woke up, it was one of the most uncomfortable dream I’ve ever dreamed….

@@mrfish.- That’s a terrifying nightmare my lord!

@@mrfish.- Well, better evolve into a human, Fish. They might dissect you as you are now. /j

@@mrfish.- most real dream story ever told

skill issue

Former Montessori student here. They're great, and there should be more of them.

Unfortunately those seem to be only for young children as far as I can tell

I like your teacher

That happened to me in 9th grade health and it was like an extreme closeup. If we didn’t want to see it we just had to awkwardly look away from the screen. My teacher actually put his iPad in front of the laptop so he could look at something else.

My anatomy teacher saved all the birth and std stuff until around prom time to discourage unsafe sex. I'm pretty sure it worked too.

@@corymccarty3921 that's smart actually

@@corymccarty3921 Yeah, I don't feel like children need to see a live birth if the only point is to horrify them.

Agreed. Funny thing though, this puts my grades in a weird spot where some are B's and A's, but everything else is a D or an F

it's a bad system, but it's because they can't find one better. a lot of people don't want to learn math, and nowadays we all DO have pocket calculators, but we can't plan for the future and the skills are still useful even if we just use said pocket calculators to do math in real life. that said.. college is better. even when it's classes u DON'T want to take, the teachers are usually much more understanding and accommodating. i took a break before going back to college, and then when i went and started learning on My Own Terms, even when it was classes i didn't enjoy learning about (like history), i had a MUCH better time. school teachers truly have the short end of the stick and they pass it on to the students. no one wins.

Funnily enough, by pure definition school is not learning because, by definition, learning is a product of curiosity

me too, i used to read novels a lot when i was little but due to being forced to read a book everyday for school i lost passion in any book ever, the only book ill maybe read now is just build ideas for minecraft or stuff to do in certain games, i often look it up online and not in a book though

The issue with that is a lot of kids just won’t then. We’re a social species and tend to do what other people are doing. And if your friends are just goofing off then you will too. Plus it’s not really the subject matter in particular that you’re supposed to be learning. But rather everything is supposed to be teaching you how to learn. What Ecuador imports isn’t going to help you in your daily life. But learning how to look up and verify information does. We are constantly bombarded with information, and I don’t just mean on the internet. I mean you walk outside and you notice things like animals, the trees, the wind affecting the trees, the sky. You take it all into your brain noodle and based on what you know and bloop it’s going to rain better grab that umbrella. But we do get a lot of our information from other people too. And without being able to verify what they tell you, either because of experience or being able to look it up you can end up a flat earther or in some cult worshipping a bucket of cheese

The way Sponsor Block skips it for me is amazing. It's not even there to watch.

It was so good that for a second I forgot I was watching a sponsor and thought it was just apart of the video. Because it is just that well played out!

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Actually the only channel where I don't skip the advertisement.

Facts. Absolute facts

mad cuz bad

Idk how to do the taxes i need to, but i sure do know how to calculate the sides of a triangle!

life was misery for me from 7th grade to 10th grade public school. then i swapped to a public charter school of sorts (no, not the kind that's been talked about in the news). they also had a go-at-your-own-pace style learning: one subject, one month, complete it before the end. bam. i even got to sleep extra hours UwU

@@s0upidge I am invading your privacy

Honestly, i woulda popped her in the jaw. I know that sounds like a nerd emoji comment, but that just infuriates me

I’m sorry that happened to you! Her opinion is incredibly bias and hurtful; know that everyone else supports you for turning ur life around and choosing healthier options!! I hope you are doing well nowadays 💗

I will never understand people who take it upon themselves to have a career in children's lives but only uses the opportunity to drag kids down from their potential. Such heartless people around the vulnerable

I remember in art class, I was working on this big life-sized paper doll. The teacher praised me a lot, as he would with all the students and their projects. My sister had his art class the next semester, and the clothes I made was in the fabric scrap box, which I didn't care because I didn't want to bring it home, but when a classmates of her's was like "wth is this?" Apparently, he started laughing with her and called it junk. But also, he was a mega creep that said the N word with the hard R, so I doubt he's still teaching there now 😒

@oomay I swear principals should start having anonymous interviews with students of each teacher they have to make sure that they're not freely getting away with things from the lack of other adult supervision

same with noodle sometimes

YES

Same but I'd add martincitopants (funny frog guy) to the list just because the amount of pure chaos is impossible for my gen z brain to ignore.

Yeah, it's a lot better seeing a sponsorship segment that is made for the video and not just a ton of "Cinematic" shots of the game that are player over, and over, and over...

Dynamic Banter has my favorite sponsor reads ever. Just as good as Ice Cream Sandwich but longer and uh... different

At my school we dissected chicken legs (or maybe it was wings?). Dissecting something that is also used as food seems like a smart idea to avoid the gory/gross reaction.

We did a cow eye, it wasn't mandatory

I did a flower.

our school does it digitally

@@fantaaa. that’s actually so smart

I wish i was in your school for multimedia production

Totally agree. there needs to be more self directed learning. Ryan and Deci's studies in the 90s and 2000s showed how kids learn better with autonomy, competency and collaboration. you know, how kids would naturally learn. for them to sit in rows and read text silently is not meaningful, and I'd suggest, tantamount to cruelty. They're not in prison! This is their life!

exactly, school needs to give you a lot of classes early on so you can decide what you want to do for the rest of your life

I agree with this, but I still think it is silly that even when something clearly hasn't "stuck." You are forced to do it anyway.

@@bananatheo3796 It depends, I suppose. A lot of the time things don’t stick because teens are stubborn. I sucked at German, but looking back, it was almost definitely because I had decided I didn’t like it. That and the impracticalities of learning what all the subject were instead of directions or what food was.

@@yakobsoulstorm5187 idk if its just me or if its just that i was more mature than i was supposed to be for my age as a kid but most things unrelated to animating and making stories dont stick to me due to me not being intrested, i dont think its stubbornness and also it can happen with kids too

​@@elliecassar1881 It's not maturity one way or another, some people just have very narrow interests and won't be interested by things outside of that range. That's not the case for most people, though. Keep an open mind about new subjects and be careful not to define yourself only by your current labels or passions. Also, coming from a former teen: teenagers are absolutely stubborn. In high school I refused to apply to some colleges that probably would've been pretty good because I sort of... decided I didn't like them before learning anything?

I was looking for this comment, and ye you are right.

I had a very, very good calculus teacher and what I learned in that class fundamentally changed how I viewed/understood the world. The concepts of derivatives was mind-blowing to me! I don't remember a single thing about how to _do_ calculus and I haven't had to do a single calculus equation in real life since the class, but the deeper concepts really helped me think about how the world works. I really wish that kids had this explained to them more often, and that these things would be taught with that emphasis. My whole time in school, I had to learn things because of a test and when I asked why it was so important, the answers were rarely better than "because you have to". I think a lot of kids would be very, very open to learning all the same things if only they were taught differently and with if they were shown the true value of it.

I agree with all these things, in theory. Unfortunately if we look at what actually happens in schools, teaching and student activity becomes based around grades and test passing. Half my 'learning' as a teenager was FOR the exam. Exam technique, memorising facts to use in the exam, practice papers etc etc. True, these subjects taught in this way go some way to critical thinking, discussion, decision making, logic and reasoning etc etc... But evidense shows that these things _develop slower_ when taught in the way we have been doing it: knowledge heavy, academic curriculum, 'one size fits all' strategy. When students have automony, a feeling of compentency, and collaborate with each other, there is much more motivation, and meaningful learning can take place routinely. See Ryan And Deci's studies on motivation (i think one is 1999), as well as the EEF's compliation of literature more recently, including pedagogy and metacognition. The theory you propose is nice, but the reality is very different. Many kids leave school and do not critically think about media, news or information (see fake news and misinformation on social media) Many people have poor self-awareness, not fully grasping the consequences of how they and their communities interact with the state of world (look at the climate crisis, and damaging jobs such as corporate lawyers, working for oil, gas, and mining companies, and a mental health crisis). Many of us do not engage in discussion, cannot reason well, and are adverse to many logical argument and reasoning (see politcial divides and personality politics in US and UK, and dangerous far right or religious rhetoric taking hold amongst many). And I mean all of us; adults, older people, young people. We all wen through this style o education. Some of us fit in and can academically thrive in the status quo schooling. But many of us, including Ice Cream Sandwich, went through this system and found much of it... useless, boring, frustrating, or worse. It's been gradually, slowly, improving, but considering how much we understand about children and teenager's learning, research in pedagogy, and the crises facing us, our schools are stuck in the past. I think it's a testiment to our young people's adaptability and integrity how WELL adjusted they are DESPITE the homogenised, archaic schooling they have to go through, IMO.

I hate American teachers like you - the ones that spew optimism everywhere without ever having swallowed down a hard truth. The effectiveness of those "foundational" subjects depends on *how* you actually teach math and science. When it's just a series-of-steps you take to resolve a problem that your phone can do in seconds, why bother? Due to technology having advanced so insanely fast in the past few decades, there's far less motivation for students to care, much less attempt to absorb any higher meaning from these generic series-of-steps problems. But if you taught the actual logic that created those series-of-steps in the first place?? That'd actually get students somewhere! You might actually inspire logic, reasoning, deduction, and investigation into the world! Unfortunately, in the vast majority of schools, teachers are either too underqualified, too overworked, or too unmotivated to inspire their students. The reasons for math and science being taught merely get lost in translation from boardroom to classroom. A fraction of teachers know, a smaller fraction care, a smaller fraction can do, a smaller fraction will act. All that people remember about school are the stressful tests that make you worry, worry, WORRY about the fucking series-of-steps, or the memorization of trivia and whatnot. If the broken system was instead designed to have people remember the brilliant logic that actually created the discoveries used in math and science - and I mean ACTUALLY remember it for decades to come - we might actually have people that don't despise math with every fiber of their being. Kids might actually get something foundationally useful, instead of becoming a sack to hold old theorems and useless traditions in. And, again - the smartphone solves the "sack to hold garbage trivia in" problem, too. Cynical educators today bemoan that intelligence is more genetic nature than anything else - so if you want to keep being an optimistic nurturer in the field of education, try unfucking the system that's been entrenched in petty office politics for centuries. Good luck. Teachers should've grown the fuck up. But since they never will, and the education system will continue to remain utterly ineffective as it always has been, then I will forever remain infinitely thankful for the rise of AI and its potential applications towards education. Good riddance.

I wish all schools did that… mine didn’t

may you share the knowledge on on how to research more effectively?

@@MonSyndrome Google scholar is your best friend to find published journals. Note that most are behind a paywall, but websites exist that have pirated copies for free if you submit the DOI number, or if you are a college student. College level textbooks are a little harder to find for free, though you can often purchase used physical copies for dirt cheap. Check if articles, particularly ones of controversial subjects, are cited in any other papers (there’s often a tab for that) which either reinforce or dispute the findings. On top of that, some journals are very reputable, but there exist publishers who push anything if they’re paid enough, so be mindful of the source. The “abstract” portion of an article is a basic summary of the context and conclusions of the article. In my opinion, the “methods” section is the most important to look at to see if the results could be biased or not. When they make claims based off quantitative evidence, look for words like “statistically significant” or “p

@@MonSyndrome Apologies since this is really long but: You shouldn’t use Wikipedia as a source, HOWEVER, it is helpful as an overview of a given topic. It is a starting point if you don’t know anything about a topic, and it will help you figure out what terms to use in your search. (If a term is repeated over and over, it’s probably important.) Keywords are essential. They are what google uses to identify relevant articles. Instead of writing a full sentence (ex., “what are some good and quick recipes to make a strawberry cake?) you should only include keywords (ex., “quick strawberry cake recipes”). Keywords are like hashtags, so imagine what tags you would use for the article. Generally, .gov and .org websites are more trustworthy. Of course, you always need to check the source. If you are looking up information about space, NASA will be more reliable than a random person’s blog. However, if you are researching autism, you shouldn’t trust an organization like Autism Speaks because of their poor reputation in the autism community. Reputation is important. If you search an organization and one of the suggested results is “controversy”, “bad”, or “scandal”, you should be careful and look into it. If you are trying to confirm a news story, check to see that multiple news sites have posted about it. If only a few obscure websites have talked about it, you shouldn’t trust it. If several major news sources have talked about it, it’s more reliable (even better, if new sites with different political stances report on the same thing. This lowers the chance of bias.) I also (loosely) follow the media bias chart. It shows the general political leanings of major news sites. This helps keep me aware of potential biases when I read news stories (and remember, everyone has a bias). Most importantly, DO NOT just read the title, read the article. Titles are meant to be scandalous to get clicks, and aren’t reflective of the content of the article. Some helpful phrases to google are “what I wish I knew before [blank]”. This is really helpful for finding the experiences of other people, such as people who traveled to certain places, who are in an industry you want to work in, etc. You can use quotations in a google search to find an exact phrase. If I want to find a song but only know some lyrics, you can use quotations and find the title that way. You can use the minus symbol to remove certain terms from your search. For example, if you want to search for a company called Grape, the search results will show the fruit first. You can search “grape -fruit” and it will exclude articles that include the word “fruit” in them.

Glad to see kids are learning what & how they want to.

What kinda Northern European Utopia shit is this

Man my high school only prepares me for engineering and even then not much like at all. At least I get 50 college credits out of this school though 👍

Yeah, I reckon they could work well for self-motivated students, but I’d bet most of the students would just take advantage and not do anything with their time. Accountability is an important thing that modernistic schools teach as well.

Or you know. University.

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Fellow teacher here, and SAME!

I have this one really awesome teacher in my history class, and she just makes every day I have her so much better, despite the ton of work we have to do. I think, just making jokes or having a happy energetic energy can really push the class into wanting to do more work, seeing how excited you are. This is just coming from a student though. I hope this helps!

I think that figuring out how to adjust your planned activities/lessons on the fly is a really big thing that could be helpful, I had a latin teacher in high school who figured out pretty quickly that we (the students) liked to make up stories about the characters in the cambridge latin course committing various absurd crimes and other ridiculous situations. So on certain days he would pull up a blank document and we would come up with a story that he would write in latin, which the other latin class would then translate. we would repeat this process back and forth. it was a win-win situation, we got to have fun and learn at the same time! you can't do this all the time of course, but out of my relatively unpleasant school experience, moments like that are some of the ones I remember the most fondly. this is like, 4 months late but whatever

Jr high was nothing but being yelled at by teachers because their explanations sucked and being physically abused daily. In high school teachers wanted me to succeed. That's why I'm a teacher now too. To help kids have a better education than mine. But yeah that ruins everything. Ran a fundraiser in a grade 9 business class. 8 kids raised $430. 25 kids raised $40. Because they didn't give a fuck at all

xD That's a mood. I have really bad ADHD and school sucked, I got bullied a lot and I didn't get help for it. Now I work in preschool as a para.

AND THEN THEY COMPLAIN AB IT????

I think after 5th grade or so, people just think kids are "too old" for recess. We did still get a break in the middle of the day, but that was just lunchtime and they didn't let us outside.

@@samanteater That's just a load of bull. If anything adults need it more. Literally most what grandparents do is rest and sleep.

ye in the US recess ends at like 5th grade, and from that point on the only “breaks” you really get are lunch and 5 minute hall walks. The walks are barely even breaks because your stressed about getting everything you need and rushing through a hall of 10+ students WHILE trying not to be late. So lunch is really the only non-stressful break for middle school (thus far) .

I knew NA education systems were bad but holy heck, no general breaks between classes after 5th grade? We have those + two big one hour ones.

@@FloofersFX The schools i went to (southern/midwest US) had recess up to Highschool, which instead was an hour long an we had the ability to leave campus after freshmen year. But back in middle school we had lunch, then after that all the kids were herded out to the space beside the gym for the break. A lot of played Red Rover or tag, some people went to play basketball and if you were lucky, if you coordinated right with bad weather, maybe you and your friends got a library pass instead of being stuck outside or sitting in the gym.

forensics class?

What Andy said at the end is why the Swedish Education System stands head and shoulders above every country in the world. They help you (kids) figure out what lines of work you have an aptitude for and mold your class progression and career development towards being the best fit for whatever professions you choose to consider.

bro this is exactly what my forensics teacher is like. she’s a farm lesbian with ADHD so we do fun labs and cool stuff

@@corvid.mellow Lol mine was a slightly unhinged old man, who probably also had ADHD, and I loved him dearly.

I had a geology teacher who put on the show Eureka on Fridays, lol.

Yea it is illegal but OH it’s a SCHOOL they wouldn’t do ANYTHING illegal I can’t send a voice tone through the screen so sarcasm if you couldn’t tell

They could tossed you a f if you didnt

it’s not illegal. if it was then capitalism would cease to function immediately

I have a marketing and oral expression class, which both focus a lot on public speaking. The marketing class is only for those in high school (it's a middle school and high school) but the oral expression class started up recently and helps a lot with public speaking. I've also got a Student Store off to the side of the classroom, where people can buy shirts, snacks, drinks, etc. I found out recently that the club that the marketing teacher runs (in our school, at least--I think it's statewide or smth) actually runs that store, giving them a hands-on experience with running a business.

I took a class like that, and learned I didn't want to do that for my job haha. Which was helpful actually

agreed. we don't get much time to learn stuff that would help us as adults, but instead we have to spend most of our time with math, english, social studies, and science. like there's other classes they offer(mainly those in FACs) that would def be of more use(money management, stress management(I think?), study tips(I think that's what it called), etc.)...but no time to take them

american public schools only really teach and reward short term memorization. colleges are where you're "supposed" to ACTUALLY learn. and thats a massive shift for the freshman students. as if already dealing with TRUE adulthood and student loans wasnt enough... and its also by design. the powerful know that educated citizens are far less tolerant of their lies and scams. so they gate REAL education behind a literal paywall to at least divide us. thats their only real effective and long term weapon against the mob of the people. divivison. thats why you see rich people telling the poor that mexicans and trans people are the enemy... american children are almost never taught HOW to learn properly too. there are actual techniques and scisnce behind not only information retention but actual UNDERSTANDING and COMPREHENSION of information. because any jackass can regugitate information they just read about and answer test questions but almost no one is taught how to actually understand it.

Uhm yes

100% agree

Dude I feel your pain so much. Why do I, as a Media Technology major, need to take math, science, geography and FOUR history courses in order to graduate? The fuck is that gunna do for me? If I had the power to reinvent the schooling system (in the states), I would have elementary and middle school and the first 2 years of high school be focused around learning the basics. Kids still need to learn to read, do basic math, and learn about history for SURE but the structure of the classes would have to change in order to teach comprehension over memorization. Homework, exams, small tests are all about memorization learning rather than real comprehension. It's lazy and easy but overall doesn't help students commit anything to to their long term memory. Students study to pass a test, not to understand. Then the last 2 years of high school I believe students should be allowed to just start exploring different fields while also taking mandatory practical courses. 16-18 years old is when kids start really developing a passion for something, and it would help them decide what to focus on in college if they could experiment with different interests in high school. They would also need practical classes to teach finances, how to manage a home, how to care for your car, how to plan for emergencies, etc. Then when students get to college, we throw away all of the useless "general classes" you have to take in your first 2 years cuz we already did that years prior. Now students get to really focus on their preferred field of study. ALSO can we stop putting such a high value on degrees for MOST non-STEM related fields? I get that college degrees meant something before the era of the internet, but these days I have learned WAY more from RU-vid than I EVER did in a school setting (plus it's more fun).

It's worse when you realize that homework was invented as a punishment for a guy who wouldn't pay attention in class. Honestly, school would be better if it were a business, and not a gov't funded facility. Competition would force the schools to treat teachers and students better. More research would go into figuring out how to teach people better, rather than this "we can save money by taking your olives" policy.

Biology is boring. Chemistry is less boring, but I’d rather read a book. And that’s why I’m an English education major.

agreed (I'm a chem major too)

bruh science is some alien language to me tf 💀

@@adriftinglink it helps you learn how to totally *not* make drugs in an rv

I personally love Biology. It can be really difficult to get at times, but the hands on parts are the best parts for me. Now for chemistry…. I love it too. Its so interesting and fascinating and its so fun to mix chemicals together and end up accidentally making mustard gas- I mean- seeing things react and change colors and just do cool things. I like watching some videos that utilize mixing chemicals and making solutions from scratch in order to get a certain product because the process is that cool.