It's funny that Jen remembers Harley from the animated series, because Harley was created FOR the animated series. She didn't exist before and became a beloved member of the universe.
It’s only because Beetlejuice was successful at the box office that Tim Burton was able to direct Batman in 1988-89. Michael Keaton is my all time favorite Batman ever! 🦇
Actually, Holden, the Batman we see in Batman TAS is not the same as Burton's Batman. Batman TAS is a completely new interpretation and is set in the DCAU, not Burton's universe.
"Ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?" is one of those movie lines that always sticks in your head. And it really feeds into the amount of insanity Jack Nicholson put into playing The Joker. On another note, I would really love to have a Lego set based on the 1989 Batmobile. I got the 1960s TV show Batmobile this past Christmas as a gift. I love it, but a movie Batmobile would look amazing in my collection too.
This film when released in the summer of 1988 was absolutely groundbreaking. Something folks don’t remember. The hype the merchandise was massive. And I just watched it again at a theatre in Chelmsford, Essex UK today.
i love this movie with all my heart, saw it after watching Batman the Animated series and it only cemented my love of Batman as a kid. My favorite Batman movie might be Batman Returns, Tim Burton just captures the feel of Gotham City perfectly. The Joel Schumacher are also fun, i feel like they're a lot like the James Bond films with Roger Moore (goofy and cheesy but entertaining)
fun fact; The PRINCE musical soundtrack was a hugely popular release and far exceeded the Danny Elfman score at the time. I remember a bit of controversy around it.
Tim Burton was going to do Batman 3 with Harvey Dent becoming Two Face with the same actor and the riddler with Robin Williams. But Hollywood said at the time the movie was going to be made, "too dark" Michelle Pfeiffer was going to appear as well as cat woman helping Batman
While Danny Elfman did the the theme. The late great Shirley Walker scored of the animated series as well as the Batman/Superman Adventures which has probably the best theme of the entire franchise and it was just a opening for an hour and a half long block of episodes then she did the absolutely hauntingly amazing Theme for Mask of the Phantasm.
Fun Fact: The father who gets mugged at the beginning played Luke Skywalker’s best friend Biggs in the Death Star battle in A New Hope. And Eckhardt played another pilot, Porkins, who’s the first to die in the battle. He was also in Raiders Of The Lost Ark.
Fun fact Holden and jenn , Prince did the whole movie soundtrack and he wanted Michael Jackson to be on it . Prince when it himself to do the joker part of the soundtrack and have Michael Jackson do the Batman part of the soundtrack
The Pennyworth TV series is about him before he becomes Thomas Wayne's butler. There is a civil war of sorts in Britain and Pennyworth was a veteran, He and his comrades from military service do things together both good and bad. It also gives some backstory to the Waynes. You should check it out before dismissing it.
Cannot forget the comment of the day. Michael Keaton is the best Batman in my opinion. I'm only seeing The Flash movie this Tuesday to see him reprise his role. Good old fashion justice storyline with showing what can happen when your parents are murdered in front of you as a boy. Jack Nicholson was great as the Joker. I suggest sometime in the future you watch the old Batman movie (1966) for some great cheese and crackers. I do suggest Batman Returns (1992) in its entirety. The Nintendo video games were quite good as well.
William Hootkins, Eckhardt, played Porkins in Star Wars A New Hope and one of the FBI agents who went to see Indiana Jones about the lost Ark of the Covenant.
This movie was the first superhero movie I watched but it wasn't when it came out because I wasn't born then. Right now, I am 13 years old and I watched this when I was 5 or 6. I think this movie has excellent elements. The production design is still unique with its own style and I think this has one of the best superhero scores of all time. Jack Nicholsen is classic as The Joker. Although I don't think the story is very well done because of how long ago it was and it isn't very well-aged, it is a very old movie so I am not very harsh on it because this came out a long time ago. I think the movie is very choppy and that there isn't really a lot of screen time for each character's arc to play out like Batman's. But, this is a very classic movie that I still watch and I cannot wait to see Micheal Keaton in The Flash.
Love or hate the schumacher film, they had moments. Kilmer had the voice for both batman and bruce, and while clooney is off as batman, his acting is fine. Clooney's line involving telling freeze to help him is pretty solid
I was 3 when I watched Superman in the theatre and 14 when Batman came out and boy oh boy Batman took us about 2 weeks to see cause the line ups were crazy , finally the night came and it was awesome , theatre packed and going crazy , especially for Joker.
You guys HAVE to do “Mask Of The Phantasm” (the best Batman movie hands down). Also, no the Batman from BTAS is not the same as Batman ‘89. BTAS used some design elements and bits of the film as inspiration and some of the music however they are completely different continuities.
No, The Animated Series (TAS) Batman is NOT the Tim Burton Batman! Of course it was heavily influenced by the Tim Burton movies. But its a seperate universe and a seperate Batman. As obviously proven by the Joker (not dead), Catwoman (totally different) and Pinguin (not dead and totally different).
I love Robert Pattinson's Batman the best because it was a mix of Lee Bermejo's Batman, Batman: Earth One, and Arkham Origins which I really loved also I love how he went from "I'm Vengeance" to being a symbol of hope for Gotham which came from Batman: Earth One I hope The Batman Part II keeps the Earth One aspects because I really enjoy it I love that they went with Earth One it's a really good story I hope you guys react to The Batman soon it's a really good film it's definitely one of the best Batman films ever made
My Favorites: Batman= Michael Keaton in Batman Returns. Joker= Jack Nicholson. Catwoman= Julie Newmar. Penguin= Burgess Meredith. Riddler=Frank Gorshin. Two-Face= Tommy Lee Jones. Overall Villain=Scarecrow played by Cillian Murphy.
I love this movie and grew up with it, but it really bothers me how Affleck’s Batman catches flack for the use of guns and yet no one mentions them on Keaton’s Batmobile and Batwing. I mean he blew up a factory with joker goons. Outside of the killing the whole thing is ridiculous anyway. He has always had firearms on his vehicles in the comics. It’s just a weird point that I think people chose to be hypocritical over.
This was actually the Batman I grew up with. Its not perfect, but I'll always have a special place in my heart for 1989 and Returns. And the scores by Danny Elfman are some of the best in the entire superhero genre.
Fun fact: The line "I'm Batman!" was completely unscripted. No joke! Batman was supposed to say something like, "I'm the night!" or something like that. But Burton and Keaton didn't really think it was good enough. So Burton let Keaton make something up. Thus, history was made.
I graduated from the Joe Kubert School in the spring of '89, and thanks to some connections at DC we had a copy of a draft of that opening scene well before anyone had seen it. While maybe 10% of the dialogue from that script got changed during filming, that "I'm Batman" line was definitely there as the final line of the scene. There may have been some preamble to the line about being the night and all that, but "I'm Batman" was definitely there.
Every Batman actor has said it since in every movie series variation (it's not said in "Batman Returns") until Batman v Superman, when it's officially broken. It's iconic.
Cool little nugget: my uncle worked on the matte paintings used for this movie. He specifically worked on the opening shot of Gotham, Axis Chemicals in daytime, and Gotham cathedral in the 3rd act. Glad you guys watched this in time for The Flash.
Literally the only reason I like Batman and Robin, a family friend has a small part in the movie so it's something I've watched since I was young and at this point it's kind of grown on me in a rash sort of way.
@@CuidightheachODuinn I've always liked Batman and Robin. At first probably just because I was a kid when it came out but later on it became one of those "so bad it's good" movies for me to watch
Even without nostalgia goggles, Michael Keaton, just like Christopher Reeves as Superman, was born to play Batman. He didn´t just deliver a performance; To many he made a childhood hero come to life on the big screen for the first time in 1989. Jen is going to love Batman Returns. It´s even darker and Michelle Pfeiffer just steals the movie.
As iconic as Jack’s performance is it’s really his best, more sinister Caesar Romero impression. As for Keaton’s Batman/Bruce Wayne, he was the first actor to portray the two as two sides of the same person much like Christopher Reeve did with Clark Kent/Superman.
At about 5:00 - Michael Gough as Alfred and Pat Hingle as Commissioner Gordon returned for all four of the films ('89, Returns, Forever, & Robin). Also of note, this film features no less than 3 Star Wars actors, as well. Billy Dee Williams (Lando) is Harvey Dent, Garrick Hagon (Biggs Darklighter) is the tourist dad at the being, and William Hootkins (Jek Porkins/Red 6) is Lt. Eckhardt here.
Christopher Fairbank who plays the thug in the beginning of the movie that asks Batman "Who are you?!?" also played Ulaf, the elderly prisoner that dies in Andor
Also The late great Jack Palance who plays the mobster... He was the inspiration for the look of Dc's villian Darkseid created by the Late Great Jack Kirby
I was able to watch 1989 Batman at my local movie theater for a "Flashback Cinema" It made me love the movie even more! I can't wait to see him in the new Flash movie. Love you guys and hope Jen's delivery goes great!
I loved this movie when it came out. The Danny Elfman dramatic score on top of the Prince tracks backing them added to the movie. Keaton and Nicholson paired together well as Batman and Joker. Side note: Alicia, Joker's girl at the beginning, was Jerry Hall. She was Mick Jagger's longtime girlfriend.
I like that this movie is more comic book-y than the Nolan films. Batman is a guy who dresses up in a bat costume to fight crime. Trying to make that "realistic" and "grounded" is a fool's errand in my opinion. Burton placed him in this fantastical world where a guy dressing up as a bat to fight a crime boss who looks like a clown makes sense.
Batman (1989) is my favorite movie of all time and I'm glad you guys are watching it. I'm looking forward to your reaction to Batman Returns, I know Jen might love it.
This came out when I was about 10. And it got me into all the comics and movies. Hard to be even handed about 89Batman b/c of how many times I’ve seen it. Glad others think of it as their favorite film too!!
Batman Returns I didn’t care for… it was “too much Tim Burton.” It was a Tim Burton movie, it was literally a repeat of Edward Scissorhands with the Penguin. It wasn’t about Batman
@@nsasupporter7557 Totally agree; Returns was like a visual resume for Burton. It had a superfluous villain and got the tone wrong too; it was too dark for kids and too silly for adults.
@@TerribleEnglish the reason why it was the way it was was because the first movie was such a huge hit, so Warner bros gave Burton full control over the next movie so he made it his own world and not “the world of Batman.” But because people were so outraged by it, they told Burton to step down as director… well what do you expect? You gave him full control
@@nsasupporter7557 Then I suppose they thought the problem with Returns was the dark aspect (when it was actually the silly aspect) and made the next 2 movies overly silly and campy..
When I learned that people at the time were shocked on how much darker and violent Batman Returns was, and how controversial that became, my reaction was "Did... Didn't they watch Batman?"
The Dark Knight movies took a lot of inspirations from these movies, from the Joker taking over the crime bosses, telling Batman to kill him while walking down the street, and even using a pencil to kill someone
So glad to see you and Jen watching Tim Burtons Batman '89. This was my introduction to the character, and where my love for him started. I'm from London (UK) and my mum took me to Orlando, Florida in 1989, when I was seven, whilst there we watched many films, in between trips to Disney World and Wet 'n Wild, among them were Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, Parenthood, and Batman. Batman blew me away, even at such a young age, and he's remained my favourite comic book character ever since. This film will ALWAYS have a special place in my heart, along with Michael Keaton and Tim Burton. Also loved Jack Nicholsons' Joker. And the Prince soundtrack too! 🤌
@@bransolo11 Agreed! I should have added that Danny Elfman also made this movie so special for me. So hearing his scores across the decades, especially in films like the OG Spider-Man trilogy, has always been a treat.
It's also been said that Metropolis is New York during daylight, Gotham is New York at night. It's why the statue of liberty has appeared in movies in both Metropolis in the Reeve movies, and Gotham in Batman Forever. Metropolis is usually New York though. And Gotham is Chicago, rather than the other way around. Mostly because the Dark Knight movies used Chicago for filming. But to be honest, there's really no correct answer. The basis for those cities changes depending on who is writing or drawing anyway, so what's right today may be wrong tomorrow.
This movie MADE me lol. My first superhero movie, probably my first movie ever. I was born in 88, can’t remember the first time I watched, but I had seen it enough times by my 6th birthday that I frequently performed the fight choreography in my front yard, with full mask, Cape and chest plate. (BTW, Batman Returns is, like Die Hard, an unexpectedly great Christmas movie, I watch it every year) This and the sequel defined both Batman and comic book movies for me, love Burtons dark yet campy style. And the Prince soundtrack is *chefs kiss*
For myself, Michael Keaton will always be "my" Batman. I saw it new in 1989 and the movie blew me away. A dark and violent Batman (like in the comic books back then) vs the overly campy 70's TV show I grew up watching. This movie forever changed how Batman was portrayed in movies moving forward.
If I remember, Batman Returns was a little too dark for the merchandise people, and the studio wanted a lot more "LIGHTER Batman, which Tim Burton didn't want to be a part of. Michael Keaton was out when Burton didn't want to go with the new direction. It's all about those lunch boxes..
I saw this film as a kid (6 years old) at a drive-thru theater. This is the movie that made me fall in love with movies in general. I was like, "If movies are this good, then I want to watch movies for the rest of my life." Ahhh, great childhood memories. Great reaction! 👍🏿
So the thug that Batman held over the edge of the roof, is the same actor that played Oolaf (the old man in the Andor prison). What are you? I'm Batman
Will always prefer these to the nolan trilogy, as only the Batman from the animated series, and the later JLA series we closer to the comics. I am so glad she liked the movie, even if she did not like Keaton as so many of us did and do. Ty Both
i was 10yo when this came out, every kid in my year wanted to see it but it was the first ever movie in the UK to be given a 12 rating so nobody in my year couldgo and watch it. cinemas were super strict about the age limit as it was the first movie given a 12 rating, but my dad being my dad took me to a late night screening knowing that it was only younger people working those times and were easier to bribe haha i was the coolest kid in my school year as i was the only person to see it for 6months until it came out on video.
I still recommend you guys watch Batman the Animated Series and Young Justice series. Both are great DC content with a great balance of fun and maturity. Also, I respect Jen's take on Michael Keaton's Batman. Personally, Ben Affleck's Batman is my Batman.
Speaking of Red Hood, you guys should watch Batman: Under the Red Hood. It’s an animated film, but it’s about Batman’s sidekick Robin being killed by the Joker, but he’s brought back to life and decides to kill the Joker.
Watched this movie in the cinema when it was first released and it was an amazing experience....the scene of Batman driving through the woods to the bat cave with the musical score was just the best ever.
This is one of those movies I watched many many times and loved as a kid growing up in the 90s then i didnt see it again for about 20 years and when i finally rewatched it as an adult I just couldnt really enjoy it. It was just too camping and goofy that i couldn't really get into it. I know disliking this movie is a very unpopular opinion. I agree with Jen that Michael Keaton was kind of one toned and some of the lines he delivers as both Bruce Wayne and Batman fall short for me. That being said I still am very very excited to see Michael Keaton in The Flash movie. Im really interested to see what they do with him. For me, my Batman is Christian Bale, and by extension Kevin Conroy(Rip). Kevin Conroy's voice as Batman is just so iconic!
The robber quoting the American Express credit card advert at the start of the movie is Christopher Fairbank. You guys recently watched him as the elder prisoner Ulaf in the awesome Andor series.
Imagine Batsy's embarrassment if he accidentally dropped in the wrong museum " *breaks through the glass ceiling* GOTHAM'S HISTORICAL MUSEUM OF WACKY WHOOPY CUSHIONS?? Oop! Wrong museum" Next door Joker succeeds in kidnapping of Vicky. 😂
"Metropolis is like Chicago"? Are you people drinking Chicago Sewer water or what?? Chi Town is days away becoming the next MAD MAX city, don't come at me Chi Town citizens, you know I'm right. Jk! 😂
I HAVE SEEM EVERY THING BATMAN..... FROM 1940's SHORT's THEY PLAYED IN MOVIE THEATER's TO NOW...... (( I SAW THEM IN SPECIAL DOC's )) ANYWAY, I SAW 1989 MOVIE, MICHAEL KEATON WAS JUST TOO DAM SHORT..... AND NOT BELIEVABLE. NOW, HIM AS BRUCE WAYNE?? GOOD NO DOUBT...... NOLAN's BATMAN? GREAT!!... THE ONE FROM BATMAN VS SUPERMAN....VERY GOOD..... THIS NEWEST GUY?? VERY GOOD, BUT HE NEEDS TO AGE MORE IN HIS ACTING ABILITY..... MY FAVORITE?????..... I'd SAY NOLAN'S BATMAN..... AFTER HIM...... THE NEWEST GUY....
