It’s said that Edward Furlong wasn’t acting by the time they got to the aired take, he was genuinely frantically trying to get the bike started as quickly as possible 😂
What no one ever discusses is the fact the Terminator left behind a mangled left arm in the gears of that one machine. It would have been interesting to see the future try to reassert itself following up on that point.
Or the fact that the 101 model was actually used for bait for Predators to acquire their tech. Plasma rifle in 40 megawatt range is based off shoulder cannons and the time machine is based off the drive unit of their ship.
One of my favorite movies of all time. I believe this is probably one of the first movies I've ever seen that made me cry growing up. It's a masterpiece
Really loved that you guys covered the directors cut - imo this is one of a few movies where the directors cut only adds to the movie, the extra scenes are well thought out and not just pointless cut-content. For anyone curious, some of the added scenes are the Sarah/Kyle dream sequence, when T1000 reads the dog collar, more dialogue in the CPU removal sequence, and the T1000 "glitching" when touching the metal floors and railings at the factory
It's so interesting that Jen went into this blind. The trailer spoiled the fact that Arnold was the good guy, so it ruined the surprise. I was lucky enough to watch this in the theaters when I was a kid. I wish I could fully articulate just how insane those stunts and special effects were back then. It truly heralded the beginning of the 90's action movie genre. The director's commentary and behind the scenes production footage are definitely worth watching; there are so many cool little details that went into this. Linda Hamilton trained extensively for the movie; that one-armed reload scene at the end was added specifically because she'd become strong enough to do it. She also smacked that mental hospital orderly with the broom handle for real, because the actor kept on holding back and ruining the previous takes. She also learned how to pick locks just for the escape scene. Arnold nearly broke his fingers when he tried doing that shotgun twirling trick and picked up the wrong prop. When they filmed the helicopter sequence, they really did fly it under the overpass; almost everyone was too afraid to try it because of how insanely dangerous it is, but the stunt pilot stepped up and did it _twice._ There are several more stories like this, so look them up sometime if you want. Edit: Also, I love that YuYu Hakusho shirt. It's one of my favorite anime series!
Even Arnold was giving away the "surprise" on talk shows like the tonight show, which was a shame given that you can tell by how it's set up that we(the audience) clearly weren't suppose to know until the T-800 said: "Get down!".
@@BiggestDawgEver Cameron talked about this during the Avatar press tour, because a common thing on the internet is "I can't believe the trailers spoiled that", but Cameron said "No, it was never meant to be a twist. Arnold being the good guy was the selling point of the movie, it was always meant to be advertised".
@@titansupes That's some rather blatant historical revisionism on Cameron's part. He's a perfectionist and has a tendency to react when the Internet points out flaws in his movies, like editing the night sky or arguing about Jack being able to survive in Titanic. But he can't take back T2's marketing campaign. They _did_ keep it a secret for nearly all of the marketing campaign, including the teaser and the first trailer. They revealed the existence of two Terminators in that first trailer, but deliberately kept it ambiguous which one was supposed to be the protector. Seriously, go back and watch the first trailer. Then they needlessly added the reveal in the final trailer, which released _right before_ the film premiered. Regardless of how Cameron tries to spin it, the twist was clearly set up leading into the first major fight.
@@titansupes Cameron pretending "oh no its always meant to be this way!" Doesnt mean it was lmao. Cameron is entirely incapable of accepting any critism ever.
Fun later lore addition to the T-1000 is that it's a prototype that was never developed further and was kept in a box and locked away by skynet cuz even skynet found the T-1000's sadistic and disturbing intelligence to be way too scary to let loose on the world. Especially when it's advanced enough to be a danger to Skynet itself in terms of how advanced and unpredictable it could be. also, one of my favorite little visual ticklers is the helicopter chase scene where the T-1000 shoots at the squadvan... you can see the T-1000 with 4 arms. Two for the heli-control and two for the gun so it can keep flying and reload it's gun as needed.
There’s already a ton of comments so I don’t know if this has been said previously, but the SWAT Team leader that watches as Dyson says, “I don’t know how long I can hold this.” is actually Dean Norris! He is the person who plays Hank on the show Breaking Bad, which is awesome that Jen was the first to say, “Looks like Hank.” Because it is!!! Nice face recognition from the eyes only Jen! Keep going on your movie exploration.
I wrote this comment during the reaction, then finished watching the reaction to learn that Jen and Holden did learn about Hank being in this movie. I should have just watched the rest of it- my bad guys!
Your comments to each other how you each would still love the other, even if you were a cyborg trying to kill the other, shows you two have a "killer relationship"
SO this is IT!!! This is THE movie sequel that everyone turns to as being impossibly better than the first hit movie. It's just got everything you want to see in it.
Holden, it's very funny that you brought up Jurassic Park in your review. Fun fact, in the scene where the T-Rex eats the guy hiding in bathroom, the VFX team used the T-1000 model for the shot. They still had it saved on their computers from when they worked on this movie.
two facts about this movie you should know 1. the person in the mall taking the photos after Arnold got tossed out of the window was the same cop that was hurt in the first movie. 2. the reason why the Terminator was carrying roses with the gun was because the band Gun and Roses made a song and music video starring Arnold so this was them saying thank you
The really important thing about CGI in this movie, as revolutionary as it was, is that they only used it where they absolutely could not have done some kind of practical effect. Even the T-1000 had more practical stuff than you would think at first.
12:34 - the guy with the camera in his hand, is the police officer who Arnold knocked out and took his car in the first one nice little bit of continuity there.
I still find it hard to believe that Jennete Goldstein (John's foster mother / the "Irish chick from Titanic") is the same actor who played Vasquez in "Aliens".
Did you notice the T1000 had 3 arms when flying the helicopter after the truck? One on the stick, one holding the machine gun, and one loading and cocking the machine gun. The great thing about these T1 and T2 movies is that it lays out a time travel story in which NOTHING CHANGES which is quite rare. The future is the cause of events in the past which result in the very same future. No changes and no paradoxes and no alternate timelines! Everything that happened, will still happen because it already happened. Even more interesting is that all the characters in the story, including Skynet, proceed on the assumption that they CAN change the future by altering the past, but we, the audience with an outside view, can see that they are wrong and in fact everything they "changed" actually resulted in the same future they departed from. Judgement Day still happens, and John Conner still eventually beats Skynet in the future. That is the brilliance of these movies. The extended edition version of this movie has a new final scene that is a travesty that completely destroys so best to just skip that ending in the extended "ultimate" edition. This original end scene with Sarah narrating as a car drives down the road into an "unknown future" works best because Sarah simply THINKS they won and succeeded in changing the future. She can live on in blissful ignorance for a few more years until Judgement Day inevitably still happens in 1997 as it always did. (The later Terminator movies, including Dark Fate, had no choice but to change this fundamental philosophy on time travel because they were made after 1997 so they had to write stories that assumed alternate time lines and that the future had been changed to explain their own existence. They were fun movies, but weak story telling and not cannon in my opinion.) T1 and T2 are near perfect as is (without the new end scene which is an abomination) and work best as a stand alone pair that disregards all following movies.
Has Jenn seen Kill Bill yet? Her reaction in one scene in this movie makes me wonder how she'd react to Kill Bill I have to say I thought the extended cut didn't flow as well. I remember renting the Laserdisc version of this cut back in the day and I felt the pace didn't work as well as opposed to the theatrical cut. I think the step mom was played by the same actress as the Marine in Aliens
Linda Hamilton actually suffered permanant hearing damage in one ear from the elevator scene because she forgot her ear plugs when they filmed that scene.
To 'That's the second one?' Holden may have almost forgotten that there were multiple Arnolds, and remembered just before speaking. Nothing devious, I suspect.
21:01 If i heard the rumors right, Linda Hamilton had a permanent right ear hearing damage inside that elevator, simply because she removed her ear plugs.
Nobody ever talks about how in T2 there was another terminator arm that was never destroyed that would have been found in that giant gear when it got ripped off. They never destroyed that! I hope you guys at least watch T3 and Dark Fate. The one’s in between are good but maybe not necessary. I have seen them all as a die hard fan but it seems like very few reaction channels watch T3 or Dark Fate and those are just as good to me as T1 and T2.
ROBERT PATRICK was in such a good shape for this movie that CAMERON had to ask him to run slower in this scene 12:48 when chasing CONNER, because he kept catching up to him although he was riding the cycle fast enough while filming, PATRICK was so good a shape he was not tired at all and not out of breath looking like a true terminator, CAMERON had to ask him to cut back and slow down his running literally while filming to stop catching up to the bike for the scene. P.S. you need to at least make a reaction video for terminator 3 with JENN please!!
Now I'm confused. You watched the version with all the deleted scenes - the learning to smile, removing Arnold's cpu, her vision of John's father - but you still had the theatrical version ending of the road and the uncertainty when usually this version ends with Sarah in horrible looking old person prosthetics going "The year came and went and there was no war." There must be three versions then.
42:16 - "How do they make any movies after this about the Terminator?" Why don't people understand that the Terminator is just a machine, and they can make as many as they want to?!
Terminator is an amazing film but.. This this is 1 of the greatest films ever made an amazing sequel Also 1 of James Camerons best films his ever done, Arnies best film his ever stared in aswell as Linda Hamiltons. It also gave us one of the best strong female characters in film with Sarah Corner besides Sigourney Weaver as Ripply in the Alien films. One of the best villians too with the T1000 and John Connor was cool as well. And not forgetting the music. Truly a Masterpiece and one of the greatest sequels ever made.
I love this movie but I think destroying Skynet was huge mistake for the characters. The future is bleak but they know when JD is coming and they know that they will win in the end. Now they lost they're two only advantages, even ignoring the sequels they don't know for sure they stopped JD
He was shooting out kneecaps like it was going out of style....that's like half a precinct of cops on medical leave or put out of action permanently due to no knee
In my humble opinion, you made a grave mistake choosing the extended version. The theatrical version has far better pacing and structure. Sure, you get extra footage, but with the exception of maybe one scene it's footage that wasn't originally there for a good reason.
Not that the orderlies weren't jerks, especially the one with the glasses, but I bet Sarah has fought them many, many times to avoid taking the medicine.
This is the first terminator I've watched when I was young like 7 or 8. I didn't watch the first one because this is the only terminator I have on CD. I still understand the movie because of the monologue from the beginning. I miss these types of standalone sequels like this.
If they ever made another, i would love a movie about John Connor sending back his father and the T 101 and ultimately his demise. A movie spent purely in the future timeline of terminator.
Great reaction. Has anyone address the plot hole? The reason terminators have to wrapped in flesh is that inorganic matter cannot time travel. Thats why they arrive naked and unarmed. But now the liquid metal guy can go through the time travel device? The quality of the movies peak here, and declines rapidly. I would suggest the Sarah Connor Chronicles TV series if you want more Terminator in your life... 2 Seasons 31 episodes... One episode catches up with the doctor - who after witnessing the Terminator battle in the hallway became a true believer and moved off grid deep in the mountains... (the actor who played the doctor, recently passed away) I would like to see reactions to the series someday...
Something James Cameron did I love was to make John try to change the 2 in his life. Sarah to not be an emotionless killing machine and The Arnold terminator to be more human.
If you do any other Terminator movies, hopefully it's just SALVATION. Hot take from me, but it's the only decent sequel. Christian Bale kills it as John Connor, and finally getting a movie in the dystopian version of the future after all the modern day time travel stuff was SO satisfying. And hey, if you watch it as a prequel, it's the only film that doesn't mess with continuity. Then you can just watch the others if you want for a laugh.
Hey guys..i also love these movies..big fan of ur channel, i love ur chemistry, Holden ur a funny guy, well most of the time and i use ur catchphrase now..'Who's to say' Jen i love how you watch these films from an honest viewpoint, interesting to see someone watch these films for the first time and you look really beautiful in this video, no offence Holden im sure u agree! ...i agree that the first just has the originality factor..Terminator 1984 is my favourite movie of all time, followed by Dark Knight and probably T2...I give T2 a 10 for me and T1 a 10.1 if thats possible...Big part of my childhood..When i wasnt playing sports or video games my friends and i were writing scripts and trying to create our Terminator 3 movie as we were not happy with the film that came out...I would watch T3, its an entertaining movie but it lost the originality and darker tone to the originals, more action packed akin to like Matrix Reloaded or something...Terminator Salvation is a prequel..good movie but doesnt feel connected..Genysis is a bad script but a fun mess but for me the best sequel to T2 is the last film Terminator Dark Fate 2019, i would personally watch after T2 and skip the rest but the film flopped hard and was only produced by Cameron as too busy devoting his career to those blue guys from Fern Gully...
@@jasonl1942 I thought they meant that she was Rose’s mother. Regardless, how do you not mention that she was Vasquez from Aliens? That was more of a main role....not a 10 second cameo.
In case you didn't mention it, when the T-1000 transformed into someone and that same person he turned into was in the same scene with him, the T-1000 was played by that person's twin sibling. The cop that he turned into in the hospital was a twin and when he transformed into Sarah, he was played by Linda Hamilton's twin sister (may she rest in peace).
The performance that Robert Patrick gave for this movie can never ever be underestimated. He’s everything on this film and to this day he scares the shit out of me.
He honestly worked so hard for this movie. He trained himself to shoot without blinking because he said "robots would never blink". He also took track in high school so he actually had to slow down in the parking garage where he's chasing down John Connor on the motorbike because of the fact he kept catching up with him so they had to redo the scene.
It wasn't the same. James Cameron had his thumb up his butt. We did not see from the perspective of The T1000 one time. When I saw Terminator when he was chasing them and you saw the red screen for the first time it was horror. You didn't see from T1000s perspective
I think I never noticed this before but even when he tells the foster parents to not worry, he blinks his eyes and seems somewhat off... like he did an intentional blink and not blinked naturally. In any case his performance is spot on.
When I was in high school I looked vaguely like him and would occasionally do an impression of his walk/run. Took some practice not to burst out laughing, but yeah it freaked people out.
This movie is already 32 years old and it still looks very cool!!! James Cameron knows how to make high-quality films and after many years I want to revise.
@@jefferyoetter6884 I watched an article on the cut-out moments from Terminator 3, but it could have turned out not a masterpiece, but quite a decent film, and it's a pity that James Cameron could not join the filming of part 3.
Fun fact, the scene in the hospital where Sara used the paper clip to get free, wasn't fake. Linda actually learned how to do it practically. Also, the jacket that Sara wears in the laboratory, is the same style that Reese wore.
Fun fact the actress playing the foster mom also plays Vasquez in Aliens. Janette Goldstein I believe is her name, and yes she was also in Titanic as you guys noted.
LOL@15:11 haha the epic eyeroll from Jenn! I love how every franchise they react to Jenn asks 100 questions and Holden is trying his best to answer them without spoiling anything.🤣
@@RyanMK666 I respectfully disagree, I think T3 was a huge letdown and way too silly. It took the humor from T2 and amped it up into a comedy action movie, and IMHO not a good one.
Good catch with Sarah now acting like a Terminator when she tries to kill Dyson. The Terminator theme is playing in the background as she stalks him completely emotionless. From a storytelling perspective, this scene is excellent in showing how easy it is to become what you hate.
I think T2 is the better of the two, but it's only because it stands on the shoulders of the original. T2 is most enjoyable having seen the first one. The Arnold good guy twist! It is so good because we saw the first one where he horrified us. The Sarah's transformation is so impactful because she was such a lamb in the first one. Great stuff all around. This movie is where I was introduced to liquid nitrogen. That stuff teriffied me for YEARS.
12:54 its not even heavy breathing if you watch closely he doesnt breathe AT ALL, apparently Robert Patrick held his breath as much as he could in all his scenes where hes not pretending to be a human, more than anything else I really think his perfomance makes T2 so damn good as hes just terrifying!
For the steel factory scene where the T-1000 melts after being frozen and comes back together, they didn't use Mercury for the metal. That would have been far too dangerous. Mercury is actually quite toxic. Instead they used Gallium, which has similar properties to Mercury, without many of the toxic effects. Despite coming out in the early 90s this film really holds up even today. It was so very ground breaking for its time and helped shape movies well into the future. Glad you enjoyed this one Jen!
Mercury is toxic....wish someone had told me when I spent hours playing with it as child. I used to even put it in my mouth and spit it out. Pretty sure I EVEN SWALLOWED SOME
I saw a behind the scenes video once and was amazed to see the bullet impact circles on T1000 were practical effects! It's the coolest effect I've seen and it's amazing they did this in '94. Only his body reforming was cg
Glad you and Jenn were able to watch the final Terminator movie, especially the director's cut of this film! And that you both enjoyed it so much. Too bad they never EVER made anymore Terminator films!
I was going to mention the Sarah Connor Chronicles, but again, FOX in its infinite wisdom. Cancelled the show on a cliffhanger after only two seasons and just as everything was tying together.
This such a revolutionary film and easily one of if not the best sequels ever. For future reactions, I'd love to see you do a giant monster week where you watch movies like Godzilla, King Kong, Cloverfield, and Pacific Rim.
T2 is just simply one of the best movies ever made. The action is amazing but what I always will remember is how much heart this movie has. It's a great movie. Love it so much
@@scottalynch Cameron talked about this during the Avatar press tour, because a common thing on the internet is "I can't believe the trailers spoiled that", but Cameron said "No, it was never meant to be a twist. Arnold being the good guy was the selling point of the movie, it was always meant to be advertised".
I remember seeing this film in the theater with my brother. When the nuclear dream sequence happened, there was dead silence. I turned to my brother and said "Holy shit." It was one of the most terrifying, powerful scenes ever put to film, all the more so when you remember the context. This film came out in 1991, when the threat of nuclear armageddon was still a very real threat (indeed, some would say it still is), so it hit us especially hard.
@@southlondon86 Well, this one... but also the guard licking Sarah, Arnold twirling the shotgun... the usual stuff. It's just that the dream scene was especially hard hitting.
for sure, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles is the best Terminator beyond the first 2 movies, most would probably say that's not saying much, but it was really good, IMO. Shame it was screwed over by a combination of a writer's strike and Fox being Fox.
I haven't watch the entire premise of that show, so I'm assuming that Skynet must have sent an army of terminators back in time to complete their back-up agenda when they lost the war.
@@Renegade2786 yes and no Sarah and John ended up like 15 years in the future. Like the 3rd movie they sent back a few to take out other targets to ensure that skynet was inevitable
Jen's reaction to the classic twist at 11:57 kills me every time 🤨what...... 😲wait WhAt! I was honestly expecting a "Holden Thomas Hardman!" at 17:53 too, surprised he got away with it.
I like the family theme of this movie. Its something James did with Aliens and he brought it back here with T2. There's also the theme of change with all main characters changing for the better. John learning that his mother wasn't insane and growing into the role of being responsible. Sarah learning to trust a machine, Arnold actually developing humanity and even Dyson going from this curious man whose alternative self brought about the doom of mankind taking responsiblity for his actions and trying to fix his mistakes. This movie is just pure escapism and a masterpiece of a sequel. Films these days don't quite reach the heights T2 delivered.
Cameron has always nailed universal themes like family and love. People give the Avatar movies a lot of shit but I really enjoyed the family dynamics in Avatar 2. I also think he's a better storyteller than he gets credit for. He tells his stories incredibly sincerely and earnestly which is something we just don't get in movies nowadays. He takes the themes of his movies and fully commits to them even when those are considered by many to be "cheesy" or "corny". His movies are genuine and heartfelt.
@@bikramarora1819 He's never been that interested in complex narratives. He has always preferred to tell simple, relatable stories on a grand scale that hit hard emotionally and visually. I'll take JC's heartfelt sincerity any day over the typical sarcastic snark we see so often in today's blockbusters. I loved The Way of Water.
