Its called cowardice reporting - when you don't want to ask a question or questions to drop share values in a company that could have impacted the environment as it beefily shows a dead fish at 0:10 mark.
This is one of those "We report, You decide" situations caused by the sensitivity of the station to the power plant owner's money. I would bet you the local fire department has gas detectors that would probably identify the gas. I think most likely it is natural gas, then CO², then displaced air, with all other possibilities much less likely. It was irresponsible to not call the fire department to check out what might be an explosion hazard. On the other hand, perhaps they did but the results were not newsworthy. I.e. the bubbles being mostly CO² with a little methane and other hydrocarbons, so not man-made and not unusual or particularly hazardous, so they just do not report the facts that make it not newsworthy.
Sadly, that’s not true. We’re paying for previous generations and they’ll pay for us but the folks in charge that allow this stuff makes millions, die rich of old age leave us with a huge mess and their billionaire failsons
"Hmmm.... The water is bubbling next to a natural gas plant. What could it be that's causing this? It's never done this before. It's a real head scratcher. Oh, I know!... It MUST be a freak of nature." ... Fucking geniuses.
I have seen this before in Russia. It was methane and Co2 releasing through the substrate when the water level recently receded relieving the surface pressure that had previously contained it
I knew this was not the only place in the world that this has happened. If they actually would be honest enough to say they just don't know instead of hogwash this dude is saying. I feel that he has only been in New York and no where else! lol
@@sdays59 The way I understand the comment is the water was placing pressure from the weight of the water on the earth below, so relieving that pressure sounds correct.
I love how when something happens that you’re not supposed to kno about happens, and it’s slightly obvious what it is & there’s no denying that it’s obvious, the media/news coverage will try to go overboard with creating a mystery origin. When gases heat up near or in water, the water creates bubbles-and the water is bubbling right next door to an energy plant. It’s not that complicated
Did anything indicate that it was a problem for the environment? Nothing was said about a smell or other identifying factor that would suggest it’s harmful. An anomaly, sure, but it’s the environment itself doing this until determined otherwise. For whatever reason nobody seemed inclined enough to capture a sample for testing to say for sure. Lots of sweeping assumptions and few facts available.
The constant bubbling if continuing could indicate volcanic activity, or it's gases being released from the soil, or like they said, some old pipe that was long forgotten leaking down there. Definitely warrants deeper investigation to determine the exact cause.
I live in Michigan and forgotten underground infrastructure can be a problem. The water quality where I live has become much worse over the last 20 years; Conservation District is guessing old wells that were never properly plugged when abandoned are now allowing surface water into the previously pure underground water. They depend on people to tell them if they know of an old well, then the CD will come out and plug it for free.
@@spoolyboi9434 I know what class you skipped often... COMMON SENSE 101! If you ever went that is... Not knowing what gas is bubbling through is huge. It could be somewhat toxic! Maybe there's a black market Sprite Soda Operation going on below? The type of gas and its concentrations can give more insight detailing a potential catastrophic event or at the very least shush the fear machines. If it were volcanic of sorts there is almost a 100% chance it will stink. But I figure it's most likely the Elites new bubbly making machine... 🍾 Cheers 🥂
Let's talk to an expert: "Any comment?" Expert: "Duh. I have no idea." "Any other comments?" Expert: "It poses no threat to the environment." "That's a relief. I was thinking we would have to do something like, you know, take some samples, and analyze them." Expert: "Saaayyy... I never thought of that!"
It doesn't take a genius to understand that there's some form of gas coming from underground, the question is whether that's the result of some kind of natural process or an industrial one. The first is nothing to worry about, but the second should be cause for concern. The massive industrial facility a few hundred meters away is a massive red flag, IMO. A little too convenient that this just happens to be happening in such close proximity to a plant that's probably been there for several decades, and before regulations were in place to stop dumping/pollution or other negative local impacts.
That park was a railroad track right away in the 1800s until the 1930s. A gas tank was put in along the shore in front of where the power plant is today in the late 30s early 40s. In the late 60s early 70s tank farm an power plant was built with a canal or ditch between. The gas tank was removed later. I have seen railroad tank cars that were emptied on a hot day an closed up afterwards implode later when the cool down. The railroad use to just push then off out of the way because it's just junk at that point. The cars become v shaped an can't easily be moved. I have found that the railroads use to bury old equipment that was badly damaged an to expensive to move or salvage. That could be ,I don't know for sure, a buried tank car filling up with water an the air is escaping. Water,gas and light can tell in a minute with their gas meters if it was gas.
" its not harming nature " very next sentence "we need to know what it is that's bubbling" if the bubbles aren't identified you have no clue if there is environmental harm or not. So ridiculous
@Vageegee Smithins what environmental harm could come from some bubbles of air coming up through sediment in a river? I see springs with air bubbles trapped in creeks here regularly. Lots of water and gasses trapped underground
It can be natural or it can be some shady disposal. It must be investigated to the fullest. What are the odds that that it’s bubbling next to that plant
Reminds me of the river of foam elsewhere that started like this, turned into literal tons of toxic foam floating on top, going as far as flying away in chunks over the nearby city. That river was a space for toxic waste dump basically.
Exactly what I was saying lmao. Funny how they have no idea what it is or what caused it, yet somehow know it's safe. They really think we're idiots lol.
@@costco_aka_packin Exactly. Directly next to a natural gas plant. "Mysterious bubbling". Common sense says immediately check for natural gas leak. But 2022 wants to pretend that deadly things are ok..such as the forager who recently died from eating Hemlock root (which shouldn't be eaten), criminals on camera clearly showing what they did being called 'alleged' perp, destruction of property being called 'peaceful protest' it's not,it's violent, and so many other backwards things that make NO common sense at all The world needs to get back to common sense before they kill everything. God forbid someone's child go into that river and die from natural gas..then they would say ' oh,gee,well I guess it was a threat to the environment.' It's ludicrous for society to think this backward.
When I fish, I would go far in the north woods there the water is clean. You can drink this water. Around here in town you can see the run off glazed over the water headed down the streams. A natural woodland area here has bad farm run off. Comes down the hill above into the stream. One trail ascends the hill over to the farm land and I've walked out along the line and found an 18" or so inch arrogation run off pipe aimed right into the nature preserve. And now all of the southern part of us was court ordered to test all water for hazardous run off.
Isn't it just so funny how they deflect by telling a little joke at the end, like "oohh haha, it looks like my pasta is boiling and this is not crazy at all"!!!! They try to make light of something that is completely off and weird!!
Fun fact: natural gas lines add Mercaptan to the gas to make it have a smell so that gas leaks are detected. When a larger rural pipeline has a leak, the maintenance guys watch for circling vultures, as they are attracted to the mercaptan smell. I grew up in rural Ohio, and a Texas Eastern feed line ran through the corn field next to us. They had a rupture and dug down 20 feet to fix the line. Amazing to think of how many pipelines crisscross the US.
If it is a natural gas pocket in the river are that has not had Mercaptan added…how big will the “boom”.. be..when a “smart alec”… does the “unimaginable”….?
Might not contain and Mercaptan since its for a power plant & not residential or commerial use. Or could be CO2 for a bottling plant. One thing for sure, its not natural.
“Investigating the watery weirdness” best journalism ever!!! Wow.. just omg! Also, seems like methane gas… the fact no one is like wtf is going on scares me
And you like the masses in this comment section and just jumping to conclusions with no evidence. They implied in the interview that the bubbles that are coming up from the clay/mud are just air, not methane. A very easy thing to test. You are making your conclusion based upon the fact that there's a power plant nearby, Even though that's correlation and not causation.
"Just air" did he really just say that. Dude there's a power plant right in the background next to the water. They know what it is but that money won't allow them to say it.
its liteally just laziness u know how much the city or someone in it could sue for if they found the plant did some shit fucked up. but no one is giving a shit and the news literally had zero investigation into what the gas was
negative, money and political agendas would make them more likely to say it. they are trying to say it without putting theirselves in liability of a law suit.
Yeah...definitely wouldn't be breathing that in without knowing EXACTLY what was in that gas/air---especially with the power plant looming so close by.
It reminds me of that science discovery program about Co2 poisons in Africa years ago that killed villagers when gases escaped from under their lake water!! We had better be aware of possible gases that could KILL close to the ground!!
It was a mystery indeed, till he panned the camera around and there is a chemical plaint right there, I would say mystery solved, something is leaking underground.
Revelation 9:1-6 (KJV) And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
Chemical plant? It's a power plant that runs off of (in the simplest of words) farts. Calm down. It's one of the cleaner forms of energy generation, especially so when compared to coal. Turning damaging methane into less harmful CO2, with power being a sweet bonus.
I thought they said it was a natural gas power plant where they burn natural gas to produce electric power... So where is the chemicals coming from??? Or is it just the government using satalights lazer's beam's heating the earth and water so it boils ...
Gas pipeline break. We had one here in California, they ignored it for a decade, and one day they over pressured the pipe and it blew up, killed people and setting houses on fire. Look up "San Bruno gas explosion".
@@lorigirl65 when you mentioned "they", if you meant PG&E, the answer is pretty clear: nope _"they"_ didn't learn anything about equipment maintenance.. otherwise, the town of Paradise would not have burned & 83 people wouldn't have perished.
Then should try and collect a sample for analysis to determine its compositional makeup. Because it could also be a chemical reaction making the water corrosive. Either way it could be hazardous to humans and animals.
Any hydraulic fracking been done in the area? Its known to release methane in un- restrained fissures. In Qld Australia, there's rivers that look like spa baths after fracking. Easy to see if methane by lighting the bubbles up.
I doubt it is ongoing I think it was just caught for a short period in the video if it was still occurring why wouldn’t the news crew go film itself instead of showing the shit quality video taken by some rando
step 1 get a ziplock bag and find out what the gas is. Step 2 take water and soil samples. step 3 report story when you can tell me something more informative than "HS there are bubbles coming from the water in this area" ...this isn't rocket science...not yet anyway.
Put a match to it.. But im a plumber and yea ,, the plant might have something to do with it.. Only at the edge,,, running straight,,, it points right at the plant... So
You think you would smell the additives to naturals gas unless it gets filtered out through the sand and water. The rotten egg smell. Methane? Or a burst pipe of some sort.
@@covidisevent201 could be a water line tests will tell.. Yea, they didn't mention smell.. I think its a safe bet that it has something to do with that plant.
Ive seen this a few times before they should definitely check to see what gas it is as it could be carbon dioxide gas and thats deadly it also could be methane from decomposed plant life.... Marsh gas, or swamp gas is the name... Also if you ever cleaned a fish tank after it get nasty you see bubbles coming up from the gravel thats practically it in the home 👍
This is why I look IN DISGUST when I watch people enjoying “boating” and having fun on the most disgusting body of water called the Hudson River. I’m assuming the bubbling is from Chemical Runoff from that Plant. The EPA does NOTHING when environmental testing comes up monthly and EVERYTHING is penciled in. Trust me... I unfortunately worked for the nation’s largest private water company for 18 years and my negative test results ALWAYS got “corrected” to PASS from upper Water Quality Management. The main reason I left because I couldn’t be responsible for killing children or causing irreversible brain damage.
Yeah but there is a certain political belief that if you are trying to enforce environmental safety rules then you are hurting the economy and doing government overreach and hurting business profits by making business be environmentally responsible. Profits over people.
It's a shame I just saw a story in Florida where independent researchers cleaned up a River from all the algae over growth. The government doesn't seem to care at all. The researchers had to plant sea grass themselves and suck up the algae. These agencies that suppose to be doing there job ain't doing a damn thang.😔
Capture some via water displacement (a simple procedure which can be done with an empty peanut butter jar). Run it through a gas spectrometer that you’ll find at the university and you’ll have your answer. My guess is it’s methane escaping from underground organic decomposition. Try lighting it.
Air escaping from cascading silt collapse. Happens at the beach all the time or where tides move in and out frequently, river beds silt is way more denser. Just air is trapped, something gives, and it comes up. If it was gas, they would have smelt it.
As soon as I saw the thumbnail thought “methane?” Seeing the comments gives me a little faith in humanity. We’re not stupid, get it together news outlets
Did anyone attempt to ignite it? That would resolve the issue of whether it was natural gas. And given that is regulated because of the bubbling and a broad expanse on the water, there would be a minimal risk of explosion. That would determine if it is a leaking gas line.
@@larsonfamilyhouse if it were gas, the concentrations would be too diluted from the vast open space to either explode or sustain a large fire. The likely hood that it would burn "the whole river" is slim. Yet if you tried to capture it in a bottle, if it is gas, you are going to capture it and air in a contained space, effectively creating a small bomb. I personally would rather ignite the river rather than take a chance on containing a combustible mixture and then igniting it.
We had a huge firework show there on the 4th of July with shells being launched into the river and ambers falling onto the water and there was no combustion.
I love how people throw that term around whenever their brains can't figure something out lol freak of nature is a deformed animal or a tornado appearing out of nowhere etc, not bubbling water next to a giant industrial plant 🤦 I think that guy works for said industrial plant lol
"Natural gas has no smell, which means a small leak would be impossible to detect. A hissing sound is not always present either. That's why your utility company adds mercaptan, a harmless chemical, to the gas. Mercaptan smells like sulphur, or rotten eggs, to help you identify gas leaks." Sept 20, 2019
Or since it’s industrial it may not be required? I worked at a gas pumping and processing station installing a new systems. I’m not to familiar with the process as I was working for a contractor, but it rarely smelled like it had mercaptan in it. You could smell it usually but it didn’t smell like residential natural gas. I assume that’s the smell of raw unprocessed gas with other natural chemicals diluted into it.
Seems like Positive ground pressure. Fracking I think can cause this too. Maybe the neighboring power plant is putting Something Down Into the Ground or they've got a pipe thats injecting everything beneath the floor from it? Liquid, gases & air, but now the pipe is buried under the floor due to sediment??
Reporter: How important is it to get to the bottom of this? River Keeper: Well, I've never seen anything like it, but, it's NOT a problem for the environment...we don't know what it is, it could just be air. Me: Yeah...he's in the pocket of the company that's burning natural gas...(IMO only.) I actually DO have a degree in science...so, let's light a match and see what happens. If it's plain old air...the match will blow out. If it's natural gas...the match will blow up. I will not volunteer for that experiment...let the idiot River Keeper do it.
Okay if you're a man of science: You should know that just because the power plant is sitting there makes it correlation and not causation. To blame the power plant as a statement of fact is a jump to conclusions without evidence; which you basically demonstrate because you're talking about performing experiments to prove your hypothesis. If it's an inbound line of natural gas to a power company, it would have already been treated with chemicals that make it smell. If the people around it don't smell gas, then it's probably not gas. I could think of three reasons why this is occurring. One of them was covered in the video, none of them include the power plant.
